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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V4, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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post Feb 14 2011, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 14 2011, 02:05 AM)
Let's say everything else is the same, light loss and etc in the 2 lens the 24 f/1.4 would be brighter in the viewfinder. But when you shoot at same settings, let's say 24 f/2.8 for both lens. Outcome should be same, but the 24mm would be brighter at even f/2.8 due to lesser elements thus lesser light loss.
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 14 2011, 02:28 AM)
KTCY no go penang shooting or jalan jalan yesterday ? i mean the "miao hui" .
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QUOTE(bbuser91 @ Feb 14 2011, 02:28 AM)
KTCY no go penang shooting or jalan jalan yesterday ? i mean the "miao hui" .
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it was raining !!!!
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post Feb 14 2011, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 14 2011, 01:20 AM)
18mm ? Wide meh ? sleep.gif
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sigma 10-20 rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 14 2011, 01:23 AM)
18mm on DX is Wide
18mm on FX is UltraWide
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Yerp. for me wide enough.
as I myself not so much into wide lens person. you give me wide lens IDK what to shoot. doh.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 14 2011, 10:04 AM)
sigma 10-20  rolleyes.gif
Yerp. for me wide enough.
as I myself not so much into wide lens person. you give me wide lens IDK what to shoot.  doh.gif
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10-20 wide meh ? 8-16 rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 14 2011, 10:15 AM)
10-20 wide meh ? 8-16 rolleyes.gif
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doh.gif 8mm? + FX sensor walawe.. like fish eye loo..
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Feb 14 2011, 10:18 AM)
10-20 not FX lens la doh.gif
Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! Don't even know yet speak like a mastarrrrrr sweat.gif
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I know 10-20mm is not an FX lens. but what I wrote there is 8mm and it is FX lens isn't it? rolleyes.gif
I myself not sure

Added on February 14, 2011, 10:22 amwell. I myself not sure about 8-16. never read the review..
but please chill down. the way your response totally. doh.gif
oh ya moreover. I am not speaking like a master. you are. smile.gif
Relax dude relax.. it is early morning

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 14 2011, 10:21 AM)
I know 10-20mm is not an FX lens. but what I wrote there is 8mm is and it is FX lens isn't it?  rolleyes.gif


Added on February 14, 2011, 10:22 amwell. I myself not sure about 8-16. never read the review..
but please chill down. the way your response totally. doh.gif
oh ya moreover. I am speaking like a master. you are. smile.gif
Relax dude relax.. it is early morning
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8-16 FF meh ? Of course I know you're talking about DX that's why I replying back with DX lens la. doh.gif
12-24 siggy is FX lens sleep.gif
8-16 is not !
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 14 2011, 02:05 AM)
Let's say everything else is the same, light loss and etc in the 2 lens the 24 f/1.4 would be brighter in the viewfinder. But when you shoot at same settings, let's say 24 f/2.8 for both lens. Outcome should be same, but the 24mm would be brighter at even f/2.8 due to lesser elements thus lesser light loss.
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Sounds logic hmm.gif

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 14 2011, 02:05 AM)
Let's say everything else is the same, light loss and etc in the 2 lens the 24 f/1.4 would be brighter in the viewfinder. But when you shoot at same settings, let's say 24 f/2.8 for both lens. Outcome should be same, but the 24mm would be brighter at even f/2.8 due to lesser elements thus lesser light loss.
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I agree with this. smile.gif

When I compare 2 sample pictures taken with 17-35mm at 35mm f/2.8 and 24-70 at 35mm f/2.8 using a same camera with same shutter speed and ISO, the picture taken with 17-35mm will appears slightly brighter.
Then, I compare 2 sample pictures taken with 50G at f/2.8 and 24-70 at 50mm f/2.8 using all the same setting again, the picture taken with 50G also appears slightly brighter. nod.gif

I think the number of elements inside a lens does affect the amount of light loss when light passes through the lens into the sensor. Glasses in the lens still reflects some lights away when light passes though it, that's why we are able to see the "'elements" in the lens. When we look into the lens from the front, we can see multiple reflections of our self on the elements. That also proves that not 100% light passes through the glass when we are taking photos. Some amount of light that enter the lens are reflected back outside the lens by the glasses. smile.gif

My lecturer gave us a common theory when looking for lens, "The lesser the amount of element in a lens, the better it is for taking photos. " biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Feb 14 2011, 11:28 AM)
I agree with this. smile.gif

When I compare 2 sample pictures taken with 17-35mm at 35mm f/2.8 and 24-70 at 35mm f/2.8 using a same camera with same shutter speed and ISO, the picture taken with 17-35mm will appears slightly brighter.
Then, I compare 2 sample pictures taken with 50G at f/2.8 and 24-70 at 50mm f/2.8 using all the same setting again, the picture taken with 50G also appears slightly brighter. nod.gif

I think the number of elements inside a lens does affect the amount of light loss when light passes through the lens into the sensor. Glasses in the lens still reflects some lights away when light passes though it, that's why we are able to see the "'elements" in the lens. When we look into the lens from the front, we can see reflections of our self on the glass. That also proves that not 100% light passes through the glass when we are taking photos. Some amount of light that enter the lens are reflected back outside the lens by the glasses.  smile.gif

My lecturer gave us a common theory when looking for lens, "The lesser the amount of element in a lens, the better it is for taking photos. " biggrin.gif
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ya glass is not 100% let light pass trough ...if not we already always hit glass hahahaha... tongue.gif (because if 100% light pass through the object, means invisible.)
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hii...
i want to ask the nikonian...
as we know...
the size of nowdays picture is a big to storage...
for ur storage...
u'all convert the size of the picture or not?
if resize...
what is the ideal size that give the best quality for printing during future??
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QUOTE(daze @ Feb 14 2011, 01:51 AM)
16-85mm seems a good choice. but might burst ur budget.
else.. get a 18-105mm VR. thou is a kit lens for D90. but it's certainly a good lens.
keep d rest of ur budget for a 3rd party UWA lens like tokina 12-24 or 11-16mm.


Added on February 14, 2011, 1:53 amdepedns wat u shot lo.
for walkabout, travel... i suppose my UWA is on my camera most of the time.
hardly shoot anything above 100mm
unless u're are shooting like a sniper, zoom into the small details and cant walk towards it tongue.gif
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now leaning towards nikkor 16-85 instead of nikkor 18-200 or the 18-105 kit lens. blush.gif
sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 also potential candidate but i prefer to get longer zoom if possible.
tight budget ... my next lense will surely be below 2k ..LOL! funding ... funding... hehe.

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QUOTE(kakisemut @ Feb 14 2011, 11:39 AM)
hii...
i want to ask the nikonian...
as we know...
the size of nowdays picture is a big to storage...
for ur storage...
u'all convert the size of the picture or not?
if resize...
what is the ideal size that give the best quality for printing during future??
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dun resize whistling.gif
instead of that get a 1TB harddisk laugh.gif

or maybe zip the file? tongue.gif
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