Fellowship of the Strings Version 3
Violin,Viola,Contrabass & Cello players & string lovers are welcome


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From the passion of spreading the love of string instruments.

Here musicians, string lovers, music lovers get together. No matter what instrument you play: violin, viola, cello, bass, guitar, harp, sitar etc.

We are here united to share and spread the love of string instruments.

Feel free to post enquires, share some helpful tip, ask for feedback on yourself playing the instrument on video, and some upcoming events.



Brief info on string instruments from wikipedia


Methods of playing string instruments


Full list of string instruments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_string_instruments


Previous threads of The Fellowship of the strings
The Fellowship of the strings Ver. I
The Fellowship of the strings Ver. II

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 10 2011, 12:32 AM

Helpful Links
Please share if you come across any helpful websites, tips of playing, choosing instruments, music score etc.

Some good articles about violin.
http://musiced.about.com/od/musicinstruments/p/violin.htm

Good China made violin for beginners.
http://www.stringsmagazine.com/issues/strings113/china.html

Online Violin Tuner for those who do not own a tuner or tuning fork.
http://www.get-tuned.com/violin_tuner.php

Good articles about a bow.
http://www.pickyguide.com/musical_instrume...bows_guide.html
http://www.stringsmagazine.com/issues/stri...instrument.html
http://fiddleguru.com/Subscribers/buybow.html

Techniques, tips, skills or any videos to help out learner players. (Youtube links)
Bow Grip Basics
Holding the bow pt.1 by professorV
Holding the bow pt.2 by professorV
Spiccato bowing by professorV

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MUSIC SHOPS specialized on strings instruments
music shops representitives please feel free to send me a private message if you wish your music shop to be listed in the thread.

Chan Academy of Music & Arts

Ground Floor - No.36, Jalan Puchong Mesra 1,
Batu 7 1/2, Jalan Puchong, 58200,
KL, Selangor, Malaysia. (Plaza Puchong)
Tel: 03-8070 0847 | HP: 017-888 2450 | HP: 012-373 9081

Euro Music Distributor Sdn.bhd.

135A, Jln Imbi, 55100 Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan
03-2144 0117

de music box
1-1, Jln Puteri 4/1, Bandar Puteri, 47100 Puchong
03-8060 0515

Carismen Dolce Sdn. Bhd.

C-0-13 & C-1-13, Plaza Damas, No.60, Jalan Sri Hartamas 1,
50480 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Tel: 03-62032718 Fax: 03-62035415/62574564
E-mail:carismen@streamyx.com/ dolce@streamyx.com
Website: www.cdviolin.com

Chambers Music Sdn. Bhd.

Lot T052-T053, 3rd Floor,
Sungai Wang Plaza, Jln Sultan Ismail,
50250 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 03-2141 3724 Fax: 03-2143 3794

House of Violin PJ Sdn. bhd.
(infront of Giant Bandar Puteri Puchong)
Jalan Puteri 2/4, Bandar Puteri Puchong.

Deciso Violin Gallery

5114 Off Jalan Kepong, Kepong 52100 Kuala Lumpur.
Tel: 03-6272 5108

PRIVATE PERSONNEL STRING INSTRUMENTS DEALER
music schools representitives please feel free to send me a private message if you wish your music school to be listed in the thread.

Ms. Teh Bee Cheng
-selling violins from beginners' model to China's handmade and Germany's handmade.
contact no: 012-3759998
location: KL

Mr.Jeff Lim
-selling China handmade violins.
contact no: 016-9150218
location: KL and Klang
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MUSIC SCHOOLS specialized on string instruments and others
music schools representitives please feel free to send me a private message if you wish your music school to be listed in the thread.

The Music Professionals, Academy of Performing Arts
DATARAN SUNWAY CENTRE
M29-2 & M29-03, Jalan PJU 5/9, Dataran Sunway, Kota Damansara
47810 Petaling Jaya, Selangor D.E.
Tel: 603-61407596 Fax: 603-61409961
Email: musicpro@streamyx.com
Website: http://www.musicproacademy.com

Other Affiliate Centers


Anne Musikschule Performing Arts Centre Sdn Bhd
No 23, Block D2, Jalan PJU 1A/20B
Dataran Ara Damansara,
47301, Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia
Tel: 012-6604788 / 012-6440788
Fax: 603 78422086
Email: info@ampac.com.my
Website: http://www.ampac.com.my/

Other Affiliate Centers


Athilia music school
9 Jalan Metro Wangsa
Kuala Lumpur, WP Kuala Lumpur 53300
Tel:012-2232393 (Ms Teh)

Carismen Dolce Sdn. Bhd.
C-0-13 & C-1-13, Plaza Damas, No.60, Jalan Sri Hartamas 1,
50480 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Tel: 03-62032718 Fax: 03-62035415/62574564
E-mail:carismen@streamyx.com/ dolce@streamyx.com
Website: www.cdviolin.com

Chambers Music Sdn. Bhd.
Lot T052-T053, 3rd Floor,
Sungai Wang Plaza, Jln Sultan Ismail,
50250 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 03-2141 3724 Fax: 03-2143 3794

Chan Academy of Music & Arts
Ground Floor - No.36, Jalan Puchong Mesra 1,
Batu 7 1/2, Jalan Puchong, 58200,
KL, Selangor, Malaysia. (Plaza Puchong)
Tel: 03-8070 0847 | HP: 017-888 2450 | HP: 012-373 9081



My Danz 'n Artz
No. 16-3 Jalan Puteri 4/2
Bandar Puteri Puchong
47100 Selangor Darul Ehsan
Tel: 03-80623880 Fax: 03-80624880
Violin and piano teacher contact: 012-6448752 (Zidane Chan)


This post has been edited by liez: Jan 18 2012, 07:23 AM

The LYN Fellowship of the Strings members:-
Please feel free to send me a private message if you are a cellist, contrabassist, violinist, violist, harpist or any other classical Europe or Chinese string instrumentalist so I can add you into our panel list. Thanks.

Violinist:-


<3berry
amacharu
Andy214
benauZer- www.reubenchng.tumblr.com (the fellow violinist's website)
BlakeJ
bukanmain
chesterland
chezzball
chienx
Chiqess
Cirno
CommanderKeen
crabjim
Criptonox89
cusx
dancing_violin
echobrainproject
Equilibrium777
Everdying
fendii
fiddlerinthenight
-FirstLove-
ian31
jazranwajdi
jikolo
Joey87
Karenalvin
kerazul
kimmie
KissCutiePie
kissmyass4147
kxin
Kynzou
liez
limsy
liquidsny
little ice
LizzY
looisc
Maestrol
malaysiawhite
Momotaro Kun
mxxuang
ongpohheng
Party2DMax
PetroToxin
pigcat
pizzicato
Pseudonym
Ptolemaios
QD_buyer
rene05
robertonikammio
roy33
ryanconferido
sandrateoh
Savor_Savvy
starlight1722 (a.k.a Kay)
storm04
visioncatz
wendy_lean
yangxi
youjian
ZidaneZCustom

Violist:-


onelove89
owlcitytwilight

Cellist:-


Cello
DJLance1351
eusened
evrythincool
JiaYing
noobcake
Passionbass
Sky.Live
stefanong

Contrabassist:-


Bassix

Chinese string instruments:-


quarantined (Erhu二胡)
empire (Erhu二胡)
empire (Zhongruan中阮)
wayne5491 (Erhu二胡)
wendy_lean (Pipa 琵琶)

Guitar / Bass instruments:-


chezzball
wayne5491

This post has been edited by liez: Nov 3 2013, 11:25 PM

Good job Liez.

Wanted to do it because some shop address needed to be updated.

Thanks anyway.

new hunting ground. yeah!

btw digress a little. who is your fav in ur siggy?

Mio Akiyama She is cool, composes songs and get good grades in school.

Yui better. She is really trying so hard!!

ha... u mean they actually try? Yui is just a natural guitar god. anyway... lets get back to the strings before we get blown away.

PS: mio is my wallpaper. predictable!

btw, getting back on track. i finally got my carbon bow. yeah!!

This post has been edited by Karenalvin: Jan 10 2011, 09:42 PM

no worries, guitar is a string instrument as well. Anyway, if anyone wants to watch animation to motivate oneself to practice or play more.... I will suggest Nodame Cantabile.

Nodame Cantabile



They have the real live movie as well.


This animation or movie really has its effect to make you play or practice more when you see how fun they are being able to study music and I recommend those who like animation to watch it. It increases your knowledge about classical music as well as they played many well known classical song in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nodame_Cantabile

btw, your roborovski is very cute. I love syrians but roborovski is cuter, by looking at their baby face and red nose.

oh, Nodame Cantabile is like one of the best selling manga in Japan last year. i do agree its a nice advertisement for classical music.

yeah, roborovskis are cute to look at. sigh, too bad he passed on already.

oO...That's sad. Hope it rested in peace then.

Can i join the thread? I'm a violinist

Hi All~~

Welcome to the thread~*

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 11 2011, 01:13 PM

Nice thread ! Btw I suggest the name list for each instruments rearranged again according to alphabet . that will be neater

Because I am rearranging it according to the positions of all 4 string instruments from left to right in a string ensemble in most of the countries, which is from violin to viola and cello then double at the back. Look more conventional like that. if I start with cello and double bass, it looks abit weird.

Er no. I mean the user's name. Hehe

oic... I will see what I can do.

Yay ! Neater

hi,

I am looking for good and experience violin teacher near Sri Petaling, KL. I am a beginner in violin but i have diploma in piano. I am planning to take up violin as my 2nd instrument, n if possible, i wish to complete grade 8 asap. So i need a good teacher to help me.

Also, i wonder where can i get a violin at good price with good quality which can last me till grade 8?

little ice did mention he knows an expert teacher that got him to grade 8 very quickly. the teacher lives around that area. u might wana PM little ice for the contact

Hi fellow of the strings,been playing violin since 2004 and now still struggling to grade 8 due to lack of practice and disturbance by some personal problems,now start picking up my skills back and currently practicing grade 8 exam pieces and wohlfahrt method,yesterday i accidentaly drop my bow onto the floor and it broke into two T-T,any good bow brand suggestion??my budget is around RM100-RM200,normally where u all purchase violin and bow???which import from Europe not CHINA kind of Europe???looking for a second handmade violin,my violin cant produce the kind of sound i wan ady~~~~~THX!!!!!!!

(P/S:im the morkubine porkupine but i loss my password,kindly exchange it thx~!!!!!)

This post has been edited by BlakeJ: Jan 15 2011, 10:10 PM

china violins are by far the best choice, or should i say, the ONLY choice, if your budget is below RM5k. even if you see violins from german that're under RM10k, mostly made in china, and send it over german to fine tune the carvings and assembly, then varnish and setup. not 100% china made, but not 100% european made either.

on the other hand violins are highly personal, even if you have high budget you might not find something you like, and some cheaper ones can surprise you!

as for bow, i highly recommend the carbon fiber bow selling at euro music KL, for RM230. they're by far one of the best i've tried for that kind of price. they don't have the best sound, but they produce clean and clear sound and the stick is more stable than many wooden bow of the same price range. however, their batch of that carbon fiber bow can be quite a hit and miss, quality seems to be more vary than it used to be, in terms of playability and sound. i've played one that produced quite a thin sound. another problem is the bow hair being made too long, so after a while the hair stretched, you can no longer tighten it enough to play due to the screw reached the end.

ok, edited.

well, sad to say, RM 100 - 200 is not gonna get u anything outside China, not only that, the most u get is a beginner made in China bow, not even the higher end ones.

i dunno why you are so apprehensive about China made violin and bow, they are actually very decent, and like little ice said, many "affordable" European violins are made in China, sent to Europe in white, then finished there. so its really made in China.

little ice, then how should we avoid the bow hair being stretched?

it's not avoidable?

it's the nature of it. so when the hair being fitted onto the bow, it'll have to be as fit as possible when the screw is loosen all the way.

ha,just wanna ask are there any other choices than china made,but seem now everything made in china so far....nvm,i will look into little ice suggestion~~~~!!!!thx guys~~~~

sorry BlakeJ, no other choices. anyway, best of luck ya.

yeah,seems like this is the only choices i have........nvm.....thank u karenalvin~~~~

Ok little ice,

There are ambiguous meanings to tenuto received from different websites that explain the definition of it.... Can someone pls clear my doubt here, thanks in advance... I see this notation in the pience "Chorus from Judas Maccabaeus", which is the first song in suzuki book 2... pls!!! anyone???

huh???????catch no balls here~~~~~~~mind if u repeat the question??

i see "tenuto" in a piece called "Chorus from Judas Maccabaeus" found in suzuki book 2... I dun understand how to express the notes with tenuto applied to them... I search the meaning of tenuto through internet. But, i found that different people perceive the meaning of tenuto in different way ....so i ask for opinions about the tenuto at here...

on violin score, it usually means play a little detached, not as short as staccato that is. sometimes it also mean a little accent but not as emphasized as accent (">" sign). but very often people ignore it, even world class violinists will play as is there's no tenuto sign...

Is tenuto like "-" sign above the note head there?????perhaps u should see how the flow of the piece go then play your own phrasing,sometimes books are just reference,everything comes from our heart pack with tons of technics la of course

This post has been edited by BlakeJ: Jan 20 2011, 01:23 AM

pls add sandrateoh as violinist:)

Done.

While we're on the topic of China made violin, violins from Yita Music (look on eBay and I think they have a website) seems to be all the rage in the UK for people with a tight budget. Quite a lot of people seems to be happy with what they paid and what they bought.

Also you can try considering composite bow as well. I'm not in Malaysia so I don't know what make are available, but I'm happy with my Glasser bow.

Liez...can you add me as Erhu and Zhongruan player?

I bought a bow from yita music for about RM2k+ ....Will update you guys about the real stuff when its ship to me...

Here's de link to the bow description... link







some of the description of the bow....





The yita music's office and factory is located in ShangHai.... So anyone of you who happened to visit ShangHai can take a detour to their place .... Maybe take a chance to grab a good bow there....

here is their website... http://www.yitamusic.com Do visit their website and their products. But seriously.... Don't ask me about their products quality yet.... I am yet to get my bow from them but they are really one of the best dealers in e-bay and that made me gave it a try.

sure...No worries.

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 23 2011, 09:14 PM

oh liez i tot RM3k+ alreayd make you saving like hell? so fast got another RM2k+ to shell out?

Although I am a drummer myself, but I had to share this to you people who are with the strings..

Just need to check this out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYQh7nPqZVU&NR=1

i think it sounded cool, with good techniques, but with ugly sound. very rarely electric violinists can produce good distortion sound.

check out Ian Cooper (www.iancooper.com). this are some of his demo soundclip:

http://www.northernstrings.com.au/icsounds/IanCooperNo.mp3
http://www.northernstrings.com.au/icsounds...CooperMetal.mp3

something special too:


This post has been edited by little ice: Jan 24 2011, 10:14 AM

this RM2k I steal from my study loan. so it means for the next summer break I gotto work to pay for part of my next education year.

can anyone tell me how you guys learned vibrato? I just can't seem to get it right~!

If I am not watching the video, i would have thought that it is the electric guitar distortion.
What an eye opener to me..

(oh sh*t i did a typo in my original post, change the 2nd "i" into "it" in the first phrase i type lol!)

there wasn't a video of him playing, he played for the opening of sydney 2000 olympic and here's the only video i found:



i first always thought it's an electric guitar, but upon listen carefully there're some signature electric violin sound and bow noise so it IS electric violin. amazing sound from it.

see the forward backward movement I talked about.... and the mosquito sound....some very basics of vibrato


Forward and backward.....remember.....not up and down.....not left and right (side by side)


Now go try and good luck....happy vibrato~

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 24 2011, 06:37 PM

vibrato (wrist) = traffic police...

Awhh, I miss the violin. Stopped at Grade 8.
I ditched it for piano. :'(
Anyone went for violin/piano music camps overseas? For example the Yehudi Menuhin one.. Do share!

Too expensive+Getting older+bound with college... You can normally see alot of 10s ...I got into 20s already

But I did join few of the local music camp when I was young for free. . That was one of the best part during my music life... All music kids from around Malaysia gather together... They got to stay in Hotel for some occasions and I gotto stay at my own house since I stayed in KL all I can remember is alot of eating and some practicing..... IIRC.... our schedule will be something like this....

8.am : reach there then group leaders organize and start tuning.
8.30am: group practice started
9.00am: Breakfast (train half an hour then eat ) Breakfast normally got sardine/tuna/egg sandwich, coffee/ tea, milo, fried bihun/kueo teow, nasi lemak/nasi goreng.... As a kid (even as an adult) I loves eating.....so after Breakfast.....too much carbon....feel like sleeping already.....zzzz

10.00am: group practice again

Group practice consist of each leaders giving instruction which comes from the conductor, marking the bows, doing phrases, ice breaking, uniting melodies etc...Of coruse there will be an instructor for each group.... coz the group leader is only 12-18 years old. The first time I was only 7 or 8 years old..... my leader was only 11 or 12 years old.... so they need to have good leadership skill or you see parties start forming up and the whole group become so messy.


12.30pm: lunch ...... Normally consist of rice, fried rice, curry/sweet and sour/green gravy/ sweet gravy etc fish, sweet sour/mamee/lemon/curry/green gravy/fried etc chicken, curry/green gravy/roasted beef or lamb, some vegetables, some desserts.... then drinks such as tea/coffee and cold drinks like lemon/orange etc.

2.00pm: full string ensemble

3.00pm: afternoon tea coffee, tea, fried bihun, fried rice, sardine/tuna/egg sandwich, biscuits....etc

4.00pm: full string ensemble

6.00pm: dinner

7.00pm: full string ensemble

8.00pm/9.00pm: go back to hotel/home

I did join hotel some times... when I did..... We went back to hotel.... then some go swim, some flirt with gals from outstation like penang & butterworth , some stay in room.... I prefer go swimming coz the swimming pool is a good place to socialize ......

The races during the camp normally consist of chinese and malay only.... Very few indian players joined us actually.... I can recalled seeing only 1 or 2 only but about 70% of chinese and 30% of malay. We are good to each other and we have strong bounds with each other of course (got short term....eager to get to know more friends so not much politics etc will happen actually....and we are all kids) we did socialize alot during all the eating sessions as well and you will see how the male seniors trying to get close to another female seniors (while I didnt do it when I was a senior coz i am afraid of rejection and spoilt friendship sort of thingy ).....and those who failed will became sad and share us with their stories..... this camp happened for like once a year....I joined it almost every year (normally at what is now the Aswara music institution...but sometimes the place changed) until I was 11 or 12....

So after 1 or 2 weeks of eat+practices...We will go perform as string ensemble....but some times.... there will suddenly appear a group of brass+woodwind+percussion players to form an orchestra with those songs we had already practiced. But its always the case that only a string player can join the camp..... There was once we performed to our then prime minister, Dr. Mahathir and each players received RM200. as a kid, get to play and eat and get cash is something really motivating.

They had this camp until the NSO junior moved to Istana Budaya.... I dunno whether there is still such camp or not..... Coz I didn't join it afterward.

Thanks Liez~

I read those stuffs online d... can you, tell me how you actually practised it yourself? like how often you vibrate? how you started?

I've been trying for the last few days and i feel my arms are tired, like how you feel after constantly shaking them... Have you had that feeling?

play G major 2 octaves with vibrato.... Go slow and steady with vibrato. your arms shouldn't feel tires and neither should your fingers because you are using your wrist to do vibrato... At most you feel a lil tiring at your wrist's part... do it more often and get use to it ... you may feel tired on your arms maybe because you overshake your vibrato together with your arm's strength..... or you over lock your wrist...just get use to the movement I mentioned above.... after that, adjust yourself to the position that suit you most that you will feel very very comforting and not tired.....

but first....just start with get use to the vibrato and able to play a whole 2 octave G major with good vibrato. if you failed to play a very normal vibrato, it means you are yet to understand the concept or feel of how a vibrato should be played.... so you got to try and do your vibrato right first. hands getting tired might be you are over using your strength thus overshake your vibrato with arm's strength or overlocking your wrist..... just remember....be natural. Its kinda hard for me to explain it but you have to grab on the basics of vibrato.... good luck.

how bout this....maybe you hold a sponge on your hand and do it like doing vibrato on the violin....shake forward and backward with a sponge..... just like holding the sponge, you need not give full strength to do the vibrato.

Group practice consist of each leaders giving instruction which comes from the conductor, marking the bows, doing phrases, ice breaking, uniting melodies etc...Of coruse there will be an instructor for each group.... coz the group leader is only 12-18 years old. The first time I was only 7 or 8 years old..... my leader was only 11 or 12 years old.... so they need to have good leadership skill or you see parties start forming up and the whole group become so messy.


WAUUU. 12-18 year old leaders haha!
Ooh NSO junior eh. My teacher offered me to join but I didn't have time to.
Sounds really fun though! MUSIC CAMP ALWAYS = FUN!

Gotto be mature enough and have some skills of course...Like those who is young and already played in KL Pac and MPYO.

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 25 2011, 10:21 PM

hey guys any tips on how to master spiccato?

It takes some times to do it. Its easy to learn it, its hard to master it especially on fast tempo songs.

lets do some reading first...



source
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source <--if you have time, you can spend some and read the whole thing.
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so let's assume if you knew the way to paly a slow spiccato already, the correct question should be how to fasten the spiccato. Basically, you had to first master the song or the parts that you intend to play spiccato with. Only then you will be able to play that part with a fast spiccato.

here's some video example that you may want to watch.

Slower spiccato



Do you notice the bow's part she drop her bow on the violin is always the same place??? the middle? There's where she find her most balance part to cope with the speed she is playing together with the weight of the bow she is carrying. Basically, not only length and the weight of bow determined the balance point...There are something else.

Now she goes for a faster ones.

faster spiccato



Its not solely about the technique but also your familiarity with the songs you are playing. You just can't simply play any songs you like with spiccato.... You had to know the songs to play spiccato with it.

Good luck~*

something to share with you guys...



This post has been edited by liez: Jan 26 2011, 08:42 AM

liez, do explain what is "detache" or else many will scratch their head reading that word.

assumed that you already know the basic on how spiccato works, few tips:

- speed (tempo) of the spiccato is related to the bowing point, which vary from bow to bow, AND vary from different spiccato types.

- learn on a decent bow with strong stick (which not neccesary stiff stick).

- relax your hand, it's a must. if not, if you play this paganini piece within the first 20sec your hand will be so sore to hold the bow properly...

wow....for my standard.... If I can play at this tempo with normal bowing I will be proud enough.... Just I do very poor shifting. I am even yet to finish paganini capricen opus 1...and moto perpetuo is opus 11.

oo btw, detache means detached means staccato.

actually, it's not...

i also once thought it means staccato. an MPO violinist who's also my friend was giving me some tips and demostration, and asked me to do detache, and what i see isn't anything related to staccato...and here's the correct meaning when people say about detache (pronounced something like "data share").



to summarize it up, you do a lot of detache in bach violin pieces, or many baroque violin pieces...

oo.... didn't know that....nice sharing....

then its something that always work along with tenuto in Baroque music like the first three note of Bach E major violin concerto.

tenuto is tenuto, which in bach music usually means seperate the notes but longer than staccato, which is totally opposite to detache, detache means joining notes and no space (in sound) between each bowing.

what i mean in my above post is detache appear a lot in lots of bunch of legato semiquavers (16th notes) passages in bach music (or lots of baroque music), which you keep doing up down up down bow in consistent rhythm, which you connect every notes. you'll also hear lots of them in traditional music like scottish and irish or country bluegrass.

oops.... now I get it. Did not watch the video just now and used my self imagination by interpreting your above post's last sentence . Thanks pointing out anyway.

tried following those but then my whole arm is moving, i noticed from the videos posted ,when doing spiccato only the wrist is moving.

Now i get wad i was wrong about the whole detache term...

in normal english....detache means staccato...

in violin terms.....it means separated.

yo9ur arm will move a lil to adjust the spiccato..... not to stiff for the arm.

which spiccato you're refering to? one need to move the arm, and the other one don't.

This post has been edited by little ice: Jan 26 2011, 09:21 PM

erm like how the little girl play lor.. (from the video in pg 3, the slower version)

yes, you need to move the arm.

the faster version only need to move the wrist, which has another name "sautille".

oh ok.. so i'll have to master spiccato then only i'll be able to play sautille?

basically, yes.

without live demostration and troubleshooting, it's difficult to explain why, and i'm lazy to type it out. search for "professor V" or "todd ehle" in youtube for more tutorial video (which is the spectacle guy i posted).

now i know i don't have to press the strings so hard to get a tune.

just simply blocking the vibration will do

alrite ... thx mate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCQCkcqTgqA

After seeing that, I now want a cello bow! How much do cello bows usually cost?

Cheapest will be like RM80-120... Expensive can goes up to RM2000 or even more.

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okie....the bow has arrived today.... came in a long box...



then there is a plastic tube inside the box.


and my bow inside the tube...




feeling good now....

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 29 2011, 05:34 PM

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG ,
where is your house joo know what im going to do

VERY GORGEOUS

Hello, I'm an amateur violinist. Used to take lessons when I was in high school, stopped about 6 years ago. I have a full-sized Karl Höfner violin that I've not touched in a while--so much so the rubber on the shoulder rest is a goner, the varnish on the violin is faded and I don't know if the strings need to be replaced. For some reason the bowhair is super smooth, don't know why.

Have been mulling selling the violin, or to pick it up again but I'm really not sure. If I want to sell it, I was wondering how much I could put it up for?

This post has been edited by kissmyass4147: Jan 30 2011, 03:36 PM

money doesnt matter much in the future.

take it to a music shop you trust, service it up to good condition.

hold it up, close your eyes, and play whatever you have missed for the pass 6 years

Yea but I'm not very good with it, that's the problem. I'm much better on the piano.

hey dude, so have u decided to sell ? haha cause i'm looking for one as well..

What's your offer?

waccha u gonna do

you probably bought it at around RM180-300 (coz market is now selling new ones for RM260-290 in shops like woh fatt in petaling street). and for more than 6 years.... I am afraid its not gonna worth too much... Violin's price hike as it grew old if its hand made by a good luthier ... Same goes to violin bows which price will also hike if its hand made by a known violin bow maker. But you can't apply same to a machine-manufactured student's violin. For this type of violin, its good to let it go cheap if someone wants to buy it. or keep it to pick up again.

Btw, I will add you into the violinist list.

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 31 2011, 05:00 AM

Lol bro the value of the violin when it was new was about 6 times your price. This is a full-sized, Karl Hofner Bubenreuth 2000.

O_o really? Coz you didn't specify the model I assume yours are the normal model that students use. Do you have idea whether it is a hand made ones or otherwise? Coz both fetches differences in price.

As far as I know these are made in Bubenreuth, West Germany. But I will double check the model number and get back to you on that. Are second-hand violins generally worth more though?

I saw your new bow it looks awesome! Any cheaper ones around? I'm looking to get a new bow and shoulder rest if I decide not to sell. Also, know any luthiers who can properly clean the varnish on the violin body and the fade on the finger board? It's a little worn from 6 years of underuse otherwise it's a beautiful violin.

Lol....no need to check it on purpose and get to me ler coz I don't really know Horfner models beside the student ones. Good second hand violins can worth more than newly made violins.

shoulder rest you can buy anyone you want as long as you feel comfort with them. Bows if you prefer cheaper ones.... There are alot of them. Maybe you can start with those Rm100-300 or RM500-800 first.

btw...you said you are looking for some luthiers or polishers to fix the violin right?

erm.... I don't really know one but I sent my violin to carismen dolce to fix once... Kinda pricey though... It cost about RM80 to fix my sound post alone and my cousin sister paid RM380 to fix sound post and the bridge altogether.

here's their contacts:-

Carismen Dolce Sdn. Bhd.
C-0-13 & C-1-13, Plaza Damas, No.60, Jalan Sri Hartamas 1,
50480 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Tel: 03-62032718 Fax: 03-62035415/62574564
E-mail:carismen@streamyx.com/ dolce@streamyx.com
Website: www.cdviolin.com

maybe anyone here can share more local violin fixers or polishers.

I heard Euro string too has context for this kind of service. Might want to try there as well?

Euro Music Distributor Sdn.bhd.
135A, Jln Imbi, 55100 Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan
03-2144 0117

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 31 2011, 10:58 AM

lol i don't knw. coz i already have mine.. and i'm planning to get one for my sis for her birthday..

Hey thanks Liez. Vio, give it a thought la. That violin will cost upwards of RM1800 now so you might want to consider a cheaper alternative.

Cheers.