I can't say that Proton cars are useless, infact, Exora is 1 of my favorite proton cars.
from wat i see, Inspira is a really good buy, market value can fight with Forte..juz the problem is the bank interest rate is way higher than Forte's..right? so, it means, Inspira cost more than Forte in installments.
that's the reason i see in Inspira.
Inspira for me, i think can service at mitsu SC, due 2 same spare parts availability. Mitsu release lancer way earlier than Inspira, therefore, they might have more technical issue/problem for it. Solve it easily 2..
In term of specs, definitely Forte wins hand down, but as for GB(including 6spd Forte), CVT will deliver more smooth accel than Forte, there's where Inspira win against Forte.
Both Protons and Naza had 2 improve their customer services. plainly i said they both SUCKS, compare to hyundai, toyota and nissan. anyway, u acually, can get Forte's spare parts, from Hyundai SC...surprise right? coz i asked some Hyundai SC, they all said can, but came with abit increase of price tag. Naza always put money no.1, business no.1...but they left out something which is the MOST important factor of all...customer's satisfaction services.
Each 1 had their own mind to choose their budget dream cars...so, gd luck for everyone!!

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Added on January 24, 2011, 1:30 pmQuality wise, i got no right to say who's better, but base on Gen2, Satria Neo, and savvy, same goes with Myvi, kelisa and kenari....Inspira quality wins them way lots better. coz in rating of those models, UK website like 5thgear, shows that their quality are really.....very very very very very horrible. in fact, either low or no rating at all....
Inspira is something they did for a change. i am glad proton improved that way. well, of coz for me....Forte is much more better quality than Inspira, that's my thought.
Hey, each person got different opinion/thoughts abt cars right? i am not trying 2 show off my Forte are being superior than Inspira. that's y i said at the beginning, i got no right of judging other ppl's opinion....that's my only thought, and i go for it, as a happy owner of Forte...

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Added on January 24, 2011, 1:34 pmso, for me in terms of quality :
Perodua = Perodua Nautica(5 seaters of Toyota Rush, fully CBU)
Proton = Proton Inspira
KIA = Spectra5 and above
Hyundai = i10, i20, Avante X20 and above
Toyota = Rush, Hilux, Camry and other cars above 130k
Honda = Accord and beyond
Mitsu = Lancer GT, Grandis, Colt, Evos, Eclipse

This post has been edited by XionCity: Jan 24 2011, 01:34 PM

Actually the review from that UK jerk are biased and no ground at all.... Take as reference you will regret later on...

When Inspira launch, i decided to buy then go to internet do some research about it. Then found out a car named Forte. I asked myself, why people wan to compare it with Inspira? 30K cheaper lancer sure is WORTH it. Then i do some research on Forte. Conclusion on my search is Forte have better spec than Inspira and Inspira handling is better than Forte. So i change my heart to give korean car a try. One of the reason i bought it because the effort the korean people try to improve and not like our Proton, show no such effort and they just easy to satisfy once they think they already make it at the top. if i have 30K extra, i will have no doubt to go for lancer instead of Forte. For a price 80K++, Forte is my choice ahead of others. If really wan Inspira, i will go for Lancer instead of Inspira.

not to pour cold water, but how do you think of perdana? yes, it is cheaper than camry by 40k. so....

to me, this inspira will have the same fate like perdana.

how do you think of perdana?

Perdana - fear factor... ??
Inspira - time will tell.

But not on this Kia Cerato....at least ??

Nice ride u bought, but for me buying car is no try2 thing..look at those who try to buy spectra, elantra, at that time both cars are better specs than waja..but a lot regret later

Please do let me know which branch you went to and can' book an appointment ...
just Service my car today and got my car out in less than 2 hour, done with alignment, full service, tyre rotating ....


So if you have thing to post, please post thing with evidence and not a blant statement without any proof

Just tell us which branch let's make a call to book for service

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Added on January 24, 2011, 9:33 pmFor new buyer the 6 speed auto is a great thing to have but more tender care have to be taken... else history will repeat itself -> City Gear Box issue

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Added on January 24, 2011, 9:40 pmYah is more of a personal preference, some prefer to take some risk , while some will take in features as consideration, while alot give a passes to local brands and opted for T & H even it is a smaller segment vehicle...

It was quite a good example you have given on Korean cars, as for Proton you will cry if you have purchase Perdana, Waja at time it is one of the cheapest 2.0 car while another Lancer copy.

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Added on January 24, 2011, 9:48 pmFORTE - > quite proven around the world, local content is minimal

Inspira -> Lancer is well proven around the world, but with increasing local content how will it perform we have to see.

On service I still see more of tak apa attitude from Proton - It is proton quality la what you exect sound familiar ?, so far Naza had place a good effort thou there's a few bad apples. Proton more branches.

Expertise in solving complex issue, I think both fair quite the same, One need advice from Jap another from Kr.

Spare parts definitely Inspira would have more... but major parts like gear box might need to wait as well, unless recon units

So make your judgement

This post has been edited by titarium: Jan 24 2011, 09:48 PM

If base on past experience, i wont even consider Inspira cause PROTON let me REGRET like the Perdana... But i still open my mind thinking inspira will be different.. but.... PROTON is PROTON. for reseller value, i just don't care because instead of worry about how much your car worth when u sell it, why not focus on earn more money??

resale value is important when it is time to get another car..ask past hyundai and kia owners.

Finally, the kid hit wall again....

dont worry about inspira's resale value, as this inspira will only last until end of this year. during the launch, it has been known to all that it will have another facelift to make it more of a proton so that they can export it.

Also, certain things cant change, Malaysians love to convert to evo, hence the demand will be there

Which kid, titarium, maybe I give example of kia u don't like, but can u please named kia cars that have great resale value in malaysia...or please anybody named it

City is CVT, forte is conventional 6 speed torque converter

also, i have a city VTEC, my mileage is 100k+ km in less than 3 years, no problem with the gearbox...
those who have CVT gearboxes knows how to take care of it

I not defending Kia as a whole , for me I place car features more priority over 2nd hand value , booking was made was because good review globally especially SG and European both are fussy ppl's market....

As I say there are ppl buying car not depending on resell value alone - I would have gotten City instead, and Korean was never having GREAT RESELL same goes to Proton PERDANA, WAJA 1.8, TIARA ... -> good resell?

Good resell for Proton were Wira & Saga , so not all proton have good resell after all

FORTE was given a chance due to the review globally, and how well they bounce back during recent years eating up the Jap market Globally

I once had a Perdana and the resell wasn't good as well, lucky it was the first batch not the V6 else really dunno how to sell, My mom is having a Waja tiny bit here and there but so far is a good car for town drive cruising on highway but lousy over taking responds are weak

If you think I am bashing proton, I suggest you read through my opinions, I am providing my opinion on how I rate in between Kia Forte vs Proton Inspira

There's so many consideration to take into not just resell when getting a car at this range, prioritize it then you'll know what car suite you most:
- Driving Style
- Family or Individual car
- Car modification ability
- Engine Power & Pick Up
- City vs Highway %
- Safety Features -> crash rating, airbags , TSC etc
- Boot Space
- Passenger Space
- Resell Value
- Period of use
- Gadgets -> GPS, CD changer, Anti Glare Mirror, auto-fold, Push Start etc
- Distributor or Manufacturer's reputation
* I have given my opinion on the item above

^^Totally agree with this... At least can see such neutral review on car....

I am comparing the conventional 4 speed ...
As I say more tender care have to be taken, such as: oil change at stipulated time, clean drain, specific a type of oil only etc

Where else the older generation Gear box is more robust -> Kam Chak in canto , can exceed 10% mileage will not cause much issue compare to a much complex gears of 6, a wider range of gear oil normal quality also ok ....

Wanna know why alot of Jap cars Gear box can stay so long? one of the reason here is - a matured 4 speed gear box which is robust.

By now with new Technology manufactures able to build more gear in a single unit at a cheaper cost, but the technology isn't as matured compare to a conventional 4 speed thus more care have to be taken.

This post has been edited by titarium: Jan 24 2011, 10:55 PM

Hehe...like I said before about value for money...but please can anybody point out one single kia or hyundai that have great resale value, yes tiara perdana n juara, how about one kia

I get your point you are a resell value priority person

DO quote me on this: Value for MONEY isn't totally about Resell Value

you are trying to ding out pass history without considering the recent improvements, take in comparison locally and globally. Both have improve but how much is justifiable.... no one car manufacturer goes all the way up Giants like Toyota dips down last year.

If you are expecting FORTE to repeat itself like spectra, sorento, then probably better don't get a FORTE else everyday nightmare .....on the other hand Proton is having a total clean records?

I think among all proton model, Inspira is model like copying machine. Perdana can't compare with it.
So, it couldn't have same fate at all.