thanks for the reply bro..i'm actually on the same ship as the TS...but i have made the choice for a forte..and yes, its without the test drive of the 2.0 version..i'm definitely no fan boy of T but it has its merits..fan boy of H, hahah yeah i'm but it has its problems as well (noisy under carriage after a couple of years) the reason why i'm asking is coz i really don't know how well does a forte stand out as the car's still relatively new in the industry for Msia..

anyway, i made a trip to proton yesterday but yeah the 1.8E feels a bit too bare to my liking..i didn't ask for a test drive as the SA doesn't seem to even notice that i'm there...but as with CVT experience..i gotta say it really shines when it comes to climbing hills...heard of stories that people state the lancer's under powered and such...but i guess its plagued by the CVT, i won't say its a drawback, maybe its due to its smooth power delivery that causes the lack of 'kick' in it =)

Talking about stock . Hahah. no doubt any car with some money invested will have better handling.

For me the city was something to get from a to b.

Only when I got my civic, i felt more confident to go at higher speeds.

as a fellow city driver, you should know when a big truck overtakes you on the highway, your car wobbles

i have i-vtec and vanos to play with so ? even compressor so ? u can't feel the power or no 5th gear is your problem not others don't justify your anger to others happy with their cars. so u have a civic fine then why are u here bombing others preferences go play with your vtec....

haha! it happens on the altis too despite its bigger size...oh well..u can't have everything can you...

i was quite hesitant to participate in this 'discussion'...but yeah from what i can see...each car has its strengths and weaknesses...but one thing that i don't understand is that honda's engines are starting to get coarser by the gen...comparing the L15A to the current ivtec in the new city...it sounds louder...no idea why... that's my first impression when the car was just launched on the first day though...


did a test drive on the 2.0 civic..yes the car is another class of its own compared to the city...somehow i feel a forte's characteristics leans more towards of a H than a T...not to say its superior each over each other but it seems to lean towards that direction, that's what i felt during the test drives..

thks to TS.....we may have one of the most intense debate for cars (or fanboys war ?) in FnF since Vios vs City

lol, but i guess everyone has their own view on each car...the jurisprudence of automotive tech? hahah...anyway, i'm picking up quite a lot esp on the torsion beam part..coming from a multilink from the EJ6 Civic to a H T-beam altis, i gotta say the civic handles better and feels more comfy ..

the civic 2.0 is fine if u minus the price tag but can't jump bumps which lancer could do but i dropped it cause of CVT nothing much wrong chassis engine wise. DSG is another gem though!

bro, are u saying the the jumping bumps part is where the suspension goes 'THUNK'? if you speed too quickly over it?

Bombing?

TS asking for opinion. Thats my opinion . Whats wrong with that. Just cause you own one ? TS should follow you =.= .

Oh wow. Even "Kompressor". Playing the money card? LOOOOOOL.

Dude, if you wanted to compare pocket sizes, I will gladly do it with you.

I am just stating my opinion, ts is free to read both our opinions and make a decision.

I just feel that your hardcore defence of the forte is cause you own one more than anything.

i find it hilarious that people are now buying cars based on how good the car can jump over bumps

who wants to compare pockets i'm a poor bump cant affort vtec which suddenly became the topic which is always when u meet a honda fanboy.
just like when u meet a toyota fanboy its always FC which sadly honda still loses to.
forte or inspira owners rather not be lumped together even with H & T ppl
i feel for inspira owners they get the same heat as forte owners from others.......

This post has been edited by kiaforteclub: Nov 18 2010, 03:29 PM

no, many ppl tot CVT causes underpower, its just the mitsubishi didnt do it right. Look at the CVT in the old City/Jazz and the Audi's. Those are brilliant CVT which are efficient with minimal powerloss. Somehow i dunno why the CVT has more powerloss on the lancer. Maybe because of the torque converter instead of clutch in the old City/Jazz.

that's why i find it puzzling too...from my understanding sylphy doesn't have this problem too but sylphy has only 15" for its shoes lah..could it be the 3" more for the rims contributed to this? coz we never had lancers running on 15" except the previous one? and that one's on a 1.6 engine summore...

I thought Audi cars uses DSG gearboxes?

btw, what's the powerloss quoted for a lancer's cvt gbox? from my understanding i think for city's gbox it was around 12-16% compared to a normal 4AT..

=.= .

Right. Just cause I said inspira is better compared to forte. you get riled up.

Wokay.

Woe is anyone who drives anything better than the forte.

If you want to go down that road, do whatever you want.

Geeeze, justify your purchase more, the more you do it, the more it looks like you regret it.

they were on CVT, not sure now though..their CVT is a bit more 'canggih' while others uses belts, they actually used chains instead to deliver higher tolerance for it t-charging...correct me if i'm wrong though

http://www.ehow.com/facts_6969242_audi-cvt_.html

This post has been edited by keagan: Nov 18 2010, 03:38 PM

Audi has all gearbox u wish for. DSG, conventional autogearbox, manual and CVT. Depends on the model and specs u opt for.

not sure about lancer but i know a stock lancer on the dynojet machine make 114whp on the wheel from 155hp on engine while the old jazz make around 85 to 90whp on the wheel from 109hp on engine. so u go figure.

the older one yes, IE the B7 A4 and the older A6
the box goes by the name 'multitronic'

they were designed to withstand the turbocharged engine's torque, stock one that is
my boss blown one in his a4, replacement gearbox cost Rm35k

swt ur boss geng~ ahhaha