all cars lose to KAI CAR ! KAI CAR inside comes loaded with CHICKS ! ........ ahem.... hahahaha

Btw, screw those review.....





IMO 1st Saga da best @ 18k.... super KAI CAR!

proton no resale value lar my persona 1.5yrs lost 20k - 56k sold at 36k cry man!

its actually called Shipped Knocked Down SKD as oppose to Completely Knock Down CKD

dear mr.pogo its cheaper cause KOREANs are very cost effective at doing things even more so than JAPANESE! and T & H CKD here cost savings were not passed down to consumers thats why lo... they can if they wanted to but who's gonna feed those well connected vendors???

KIA is riding on HYUNDAI software & hardware with own design thrown in much like VW - Audi - Skoda family parts sharing this makes them cost effective at the same time able to punch way above their league.....

huh u buying the car or the company?

hmmm krs way behind japs? any model here offering maintenance free Gearbox yet? K5 & Sonata is already there..... same level with BMW & even Citroen has it.... Japs????? FYI koreans are not even bothered about japs they heading straight for USA & EURO levels!

hmmmm... Honda Euro Type-R using and had rav reviews ?

by the way its not the same as the cars u stated above.... u just assume so.

lets see renault and euro civic (non type r) uses t-beam all set for comfort bias also
so did citreon and others.... so what gives? bad for performance? nope the above statement says its capable to be tuned for track
bad for comfort? nope cause most comfort bias cars also use t-beam so whats wrong with it?

not good enough???



This post has been edited by kiaforteclub: Nov 17 2010, 11:07 PM

the best choice! better than both cars hahahaha!

take a showroom forte vs a showroom euro civic (non-R) this is fair comparison>?
but someone compared it to viva myvi etc would forte fair better or worst?
if Forte has a sport version to compare to euro civic type-r it'll be the Koup below....



SEMA Show: Kia Forte Koup Type R Concept

Making its debut at this week's SEMA aftermarket show is Kia's Forte Koup Type R Concept model, which is said to be inspired by its racing siblings that take part in the GRAND-AM Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge.

The concept was developed by Kia's racing partner, Kinetic Motorsports, who built and campaigns the Forte Koup race cars. Performance upgrades are limited to a set of BBS RG 18-inch forged aluminum alloy wheels, race-inspired tires and suspension components, a short throw gaearshift and dampened composite fiber disc clutch.

On the styling front, the Koup Type R is finished in a dramatic looking gray color and comes with a widened body kit that includes front fenders, rocker panels and rear quarter panels.

Inside, the designers modified the interior with custom dressed seats and door panels, a new gear shift knob and carbon inlays.

Antilock Braking System (ABS)
Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
Traction Control System (TCS)

Suspension
Front McPherson Strut with coil spring, Shock Absorber – Gas (Mando)
Rear Coupled Torsion Beam Axle (CTBA), Shock Absorber – Gas (Mando) - (new patented version by Hyundai diff from normal torsion beam)

sorry to say that you need more research before saying its the same...
citreon version is diff from toyota version as well
forte uses the newly patented version from hyundai go look at the patent and the explanations
then come back say if its the same as civic or toyota.

hyundai's coupled torsion beam has passive steer similar to citreon's and is mounted differently. the normal torsion beam doesn't have that.

"when it comes to regular bread and butter car handling, torsion beam will still lose out to independant... and this suspension discussion has been over and done with so many times until we can actually get fedup...." and yet still insist couple axle torsion beam watever bla bla is not your normal torsion beam....



pls refer back to my postings since when did i mentioned whatever beam was superior to independent suspension???

i posted the diff for forte vs others which referred to as by someone which felt disappointed and compare to other h-beam. i also pointed out the tech diff of various h-beam and how its better now. someone then butted in claiming Honda h-beam is better than others H-beam then claim again a H-beam is all the same = bad performance then compared to independent... why keep changing the topic and gold posts?

i have been using MULTILINK SUSPENSION (this is the right term) for many years and have company civic & bmw 3 as well so i know the pros-cons well enough. the h-beam posts is to update the misconception or perceptions if being inferior. but the comparison is only about out right performance which takes up 20% of your daily drive or less???

for me its was simple 75k car with comfortable strong body wide space & boot quite great audio good FC capable for long distance runs without much fuss.

did i say inspira no good? did i say multilink no good? since all h-beam the same then honda's ain't much better right? then why claim honda's beats everyones? for this then i can safely say inspira's handling can beat the crap out of honda's civic's h-beam? then Honda fanboys will claim no way Honda sure beats Lancer/Inspira...... i can't wait to see more new models coming with H-beams from Honda with best handling sales pitch.

kcng u are just trying to show i dam daring driver la nothing to do with the car la.... if u have balls even a kancil can get less balls driver. u dare to race with maddriver with his junk car then come back u can claim this victory. else u just wanna show off you have bigger balls nothing more.

both cars i like even the lancer which was on my buying list. end of day its driving style preference and needs. lancer was great for jumping speed bumps if u don't worry about the 18" and civic was great for speeds but chassis seems weaker to lancers. forte 2.0 fits in between strong chassis non-cvt large space like lancer able to jump over bumps. what drives me nuts was the local fit & finish of civic which cost a lot they need to provide better QC for the price. both lancer & forte imported even though still some minor gremlins but forte edges out on price department. hence proton's inspira will give it a run for the money but still lacking in safety aspects for the inspira 2.0. you choices are yours not others.... just buy the car u want & need. I've chosen mine cause of the effort put in by Koreans which i value much..... hopefully Inspira does that too for Proton.

on engine civic 2.0 is best - lancer & forte similar but lancer is rougher than forte's.

i dont care if u want vtec or whatever u can have the nice engine all u want for all the price u pay
i want a car to enjoy & drive at the price i willing to pay! your money your own justification ...

i have i-vtec and vanos to play with so ? even compressor so ? u can't feel the power or no 5th gear is your problem not others don't justify your anger to others happy with their cars. so u have a civic fine then why are u here bombing others preferences go play with your vtec....