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 Inspira vs Forte, which one will you go for

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post Nov 18 2010, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Nov 18 2010, 03:38 PM)
the older one yes, IE the B7 A4 and the older A6
the box goes by the name 'multitronic'
they were designed to withstand the turbocharged engine's torque, stock one that is
my boss blown one in his a4, replacement gearbox cost Rm35k  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Nov 18 2010, 03:38 PM)
Audi has all gearbox u wish for. DSG, conventional autogearbox, manual and CVT. Depends on the model and specs u opt for. tongue.gif
not sure about lancer but i know a stock lancer on the dynojet machine make 114whp on the wheel from 155hp on engine while the old jazz make around 85 to 90whp on the wheel from 109hp on engine. so u go figure. smile.gif
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tht's quite a significant loss...i do wonder though, coz honda did have a history in its cvt by the name of multimatic or something like that which were used on the civics previously...but did mitsubishi have any experience in cvt boxes prior to this? coz i did read tht the cvt did have overheating issues too in the 2007-2008 models..
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QUOTE(keagan @ Nov 18 2010, 03:41 PM)
tht's quite a significant loss...i do wonder though, coz honda did have a history in its cvt by the name of multimatic or something like that which were used on the civics previously...but did mitsubishi have any experience in cvt boxes prior to this? coz i did read tht the cvt did have overheating issues too in the 2007-2008 models..
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I think they still do. It was a design issue. That could be fixed by installing a cooler.

According to proton, they identified this issue and fixed it in the inspira o_o
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:59 PM

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Am not a technical person but just want to share below after tested drive the Inspira (personal opinions):

1) Inspira is lack of solid feeling compared to Forte, hence feeling not so secured when in high speed.
2) Handling wise, Inspira (by Lotus) is much better then Forte, cant deny that.
3) Interior, Forte is much more spacious and comfy.
4) Inspira's back seats are just too slumpy dont know can last for how long
5) Checked out the Inspira rear bumper right up to it rear tyres' - u will see double layers above rear tyres. When compared to a Lancer, apparently the finishing in Inspira is not complete (LOL)
6) Overall cost for ownership - Inspira is higher compared to Forte due to higher interest rate for national car.

P/s: Rumours: next batch of Inspira might be going for Campro engine. If you are fancy about the MIVEC engine, should book the first batch now.

This post has been edited by DnG: Nov 18 2010, 04:06 PM
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post Nov 18 2010, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(keagan @ Nov 18 2010, 03:41 PM)
tht's quite a significant loss...i do wonder though, coz honda did have a history in its cvt by the name of multimatic or something like that which were used on the civics previously...but did mitsubishi have any experience in cvt boxes prior to this? coz i did read tht the cvt did have overheating issues too in the 2007-2008 models..
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Actually any normal drivers out there cant make the Lancer's CVT overheat that easily. Only when its hardly driven at high speed for long journey will overheat the CVT and into limp mode. If i have bought the Lancer, it sure overheat everytime i drive. lol. hence i bought the fd2. tongue.gif


Added on November 18, 2010, 4:09 pm
QUOTE(omnimech @ Nov 18 2010, 03:52 PM)
I think they still do. It was a design issue. That could be fixed by installing a cooler.

According to proton, they identified this issue and fixed it in the inspira o_o
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thats wat they claim. if that is true. Inspira is definitely a bargain. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(DnG @ Nov 18 2010, 03:59 PM)
Am not a technical person but just want to share below after tested drive the Inspira (personal opinions):

1) Inspira is lack of solid feeling compared to Forte, hence feeling not so secured when in high speed.
2) Handling wise, Inspira (by Lotus) is much better then Forte, cant deny that.
3) Interior, Forte is much more spacious and comfy.
4) Inspira's back seats are just too slumpy dont know can last for how long
5) Checked out the Inspira rear bumper right up to it rear tyres' - u will see double layers above rear tyres. When compared to a Lancer, apparently the finishing in Inspira is not complete (LOL)
6) Overall cost for ownership - Inspira is higher compared to Forte due to higher interest rate for national car.

P/s: Rumours: next batch of Inspira might be going for Campro engine. If you are fancy about the MIVEC engine, should book the first batch now.
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QUOTE(DnG @ Nov 18 2010, 03:59 PM)
P/s: Rumours: next batch of Inspira might be going for Campro engine. If you are fancy about the MIVEC engine, should book the first batch now.
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nope not gonna happen
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 18 2010, 04:13 PM)
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Nov 18 2010, 04:15 PM)
nope not gonna happen
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that's why i quoted it as "rumours". As mentioned, I shared this after the test drive and this "rumours" is exactly what that sales agent told me. maybe they are trying their luck to push for more booking i dunno.

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QUOTE(ADVAN @ Nov 15 2010, 03:18 PM)
Inspira carry proton name is sux, forte carry korean name even more sux..

If choose one, then go for Inspira for Lancer technology + paddle shift + cheaper parts (compare to korean) + more potential to mod..
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif you are right.

Proton car is better than korean car honestly.. Hyundai got more bad records and much much more defect compare to Proton.


Added on November 18, 2010, 4:52 pm
QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Nov 15 2010, 03:37 PM)
And a never ending stupid comments like "Inspira FTW" thats all comment. Inspira-fans,Kopitiam-ers, you don't get additional post counts for that.

Inspira is like buying a pirated DVD. It's not a proudly own-designed car. Only GEN2,Persona,Satria Neo are like home-breed designs.

I am not going to vote for any of them in this poll. Enough said. Surely the poll for INSPIRA is higher because of forumer's support for the pirated-copy car.
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a mp3 4mb files is better even burn with a cheap cdr. a good cdr with bad quality sound wont satisfied u.

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QUOTE(omnimech @ Nov 18 2010, 03:52 PM)
I think they still do. It was a design issue. That could be fixed by installing a cooler.

According to proton, they identified this issue and fixed it in the inspira o_o
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yeah i did see them stating so as the front bumper allows space for a fitting of a CVT cooler..but it seems that even for the days of the PV6, they have been fitting gearbox coolers as it leads to failures ...that was the trouble that most PV6 owners had..seems like mitsu gboxes run pretty hot


Added on November 18, 2010, 5:27 pm
QUOTE(Gouki @ Nov 18 2010, 04:06 PM)
Actually any normal drivers out there cant make the Lancer's CVT overheat that easily. Only when its hardly driven at high speed for long journey will overheat the CVT and into limp mode. If i have bought the Lancer, it sure overheat everytime i drive. lol. hence i bought the fd2. tongue.gif


Added on November 18, 2010, 4:09 pm
thats wat they claim. if that is true. Inspira is definitely a bargain. tongue.gif
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ala bro, fd2 cannot compare with a lancer...different types of monsters =p

This post has been edited by keagan: Nov 18 2010, 05:27 PM
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I understand if Inspira & Forte owner are doing debate here but what the hell is with those people that doesn't own the car? You come in bull about your Civic / Altis or whatsoever for what?

No one knows better than those owners out there. Just because you test drive it for 10 minutes doesn't mean you can give comment about it already.
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LOL the argument is still going on.Cant believe it.

Anyway just dropped by to say have fun debating.Hope the winner gets a million bucks!
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QUOTE(xVince @ Nov 18 2010, 05:40 PM)
I understand if Inspira & Forte owner are doing debate here but what the hell is with those people that doesn't own the car? You come in bull about your Civic / Altis or whatsoever for what?

No one knows better than those owners out there. Just because you test drive it for 10 minutes doesn't mean you can give comment about it already.
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even if they did own the cars, it doesn't mean they know it better than everyone else..this is what's called a discussion and sharing bro...besides, if everyone's to contribute to this, we will have a ever bigger picture of everything even though it may not always be relevant =) and yes i'm saying so because i'm jumping over from one brand to another...
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QUOTE(xVince @ Nov 18 2010, 05:40 PM)
I understand if Inspira & Forte owner are doing debate here but what the hell is with those people that doesn't own the car? You come in bull about your Civic / Altis or whatsoever for what?

No one knows better than those owners out there. Just because you test drive it for 10 minutes doesn't mean you can give comment about it already.
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bro .. u dun understand at all rclxms.gif
bcoz its a proton! .. no matter what ... they understand the most if its a proton tongue.gif
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post Nov 18 2010, 05:48 PM

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btw, inspira owners...how many of them actually gotten the car already?
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Let's have a race Between Inspira & Forte settle once & for all !! rclxms.gif
Location Sepang circuit brows.gif

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QUOTE(xVince @ Nov 18 2010, 05:40 PM)
I understand if Inspira & Forte owner are doing debate here but what the hell is with those people that doesn't own the car? You come in bull about your Civic / Altis or whatsoever for what?

No one knows better than those owners out there. Just because you test drive it for 10 minutes doesn't mean you can give comment about it already.
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ah ok then~ so i should STFU till the Inspira is deliver in front of my door step. U see, no one is boasting anything when we are trying to have some healthy discussions and yet ppl like u come in make the stir and some other fanboys start shooting pointless bullets. Make sure you dont comment any other FnF topics on cars that u dont own or drive for less than 10mins as well. smile.gif

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QUOTE(pooh88 @ Nov 18 2010, 05:53 PM)
Let's have a race Between Inspira & Forte settle once & for all !! rclxms.gif
Location Sepang circuit  brows.gif

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Inspira will pawn Forte all the way back to Holland!
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Holland too cruel !!
Netherlands sound nicer a bit icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 18 2010, 06:07 PM)
Inspira will pawn Forte all the way back to Holland!
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QUOTE(keagan @ Nov 18 2010, 05:43 PM)
even if they did own the cars, it doesn't mean they know it better than everyone else..this is what's called a discussion and sharing bro...besides, if everyone's to contribute to this, we will have a ever bigger picture of everything even though it may not always be relevant =) and yes i'm saying so because i'm jumping over from one brand to another...
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Ok I know my statement above is unclear. What i'm trying to say is those negative comments from non-owners. What is with that? Some owner here already clearly stated there is no problem on the specific but some haters come in and say there is problem in it. This is clearly very misleading to the potential buyers.

QUOTE(Gouki @ Nov 18 2010, 05:56 PM)
ah ok then~ so i should STFU till the Inspira is deliver in front of my door step. U see, no one is boasting anything when we are trying to have some healthy discussions and yet ppl like u come in make the stir and some other fanboys start shooting pointless bullets. Make sure you dont comment any other FnF topics on cars that u dont own or drive for less than 10mins as well.  smile.gif
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Healthy discussion? Oh sorry i'm blind maybe. Everyone is already shooting pointless bullets around before I comment. Sorry if you get butthurted so easily but I don't give negative comments on cars that I don't own.


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