Malaysia sudah ada keh?
How much is it?
Honda CRZ
Honda CRZ
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Oct 22 2010, 11:56 PM, updated 14y ago
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Malaysia sudah ada keh?
How much is it? |
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Oct 23 2010, 12:05 AM
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concept car dude
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Oct 23 2010, 12:15 AM
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its not a concept car. it will be in production soon and no...msia don't have it yet
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Oct 23 2010, 12:18 AM
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ic.. it used to be a concept car
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Oct 23 2010, 12:21 AM
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It's a sport-hybrid. Already on sale since early this year in Japan. In Europe I think it was summer.
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Oct 23 2010, 12:24 AM
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Spoon alrdy mod it..
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Oct 23 2010, 12:28 AM
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and TS saw in car town
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Oct 23 2010, 12:34 AM
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Singapore have's it , try look around Grey Importers .
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Oct 23 2010, 12:44 AM
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estimated price?
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Oct 23 2010, 09:05 AM
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Oct 23 2010, 09:11 AM
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JP base price is ¥2.27 million.
US base price is US$19,950. UK base price will be £16,999. My CRZ in Car Town ![]() This post has been edited by alpha0201: Oct 23 2010, 09:16 AM |
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Oct 23 2010, 11:06 AM
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Any news when will it available in MALAYSIA?
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Oct 23 2010, 11:11 AM
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No. go ask Honda Malaysia.
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Oct 23 2010, 12:15 PM
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LOL! ask the CEO or salesman..HAHA!
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Oct 23 2010, 12:17 PM
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Oct 23 2010, 12:54 PM
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Which means that RM 86k can get the car already? It's a super good deal!
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Oct 23 2010, 06:43 PM
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Even with 0% tax, Honda Malaysia will mark up the price to maximize their profits.
It's still slower than the old CR-X. |
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Oct 25 2010, 02:17 AM
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Maybe Honda will consider to bring CRZ for us
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Oct 25 2010, 12:49 PM
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Oct 26 2010, 04:45 PM
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front is cool! But Behind,looks like a MPV,i don like!
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Oct 27 2010, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(johnkor @ Oct 23 2010, 01:34 AM) my guess, if they bring it in (local grey), i think prices will hover around RM160k-180K+.or just a shade under RM200k (new). at least by this years end, it could be seen at local importers. problem is having grey importer bring CRZ in, u still need honda malaysia to support it. its hybrid, your 'friendly' mechanics will not touch it. |
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Oct 29 2010, 05:46 PM
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It might just be here around the 3rd quarter of next year. Honda Malaysia already did a study with a group of the oldie CR-X owners earlier this year.
The CR-Z have the potential and Honda knows it. Or else, why did they install a manual 6 speed GB? HKS have already begun road - testing [ no more dyno - testing ] their CR-Z supercharger kit. Spoon might race their race - specced CR-Z over at the Thunderhill 25 Hours endurance race this year [ or is it next year? I'm not very sure. ]. I'm saying "might" because HM must consider their main bread - and - butter range, that is the Civic platform as it's due for a replacement next year too. Let us hope the next HM president [ the nanbawan man is always, and will be, Japanese ] is as understanding the previous ones. We were the ONLY country out of Japan, to get brand new FD2 CTR units with a full Honda warranty, parts, and mechanics trained to maintain and repair 'em, so hopefully, the next Top Trumps man will do the same. ... and since I've brought up about Thunderhill and Spoon..... Spoon Sports At Thunderhill 25 Hours Endurance Race, 2010 This post has been edited by poyo: Oct 29 2010, 06:00 PM |
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Oct 29 2010, 10:09 PM
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Hybrid car is dutyfree now, i believe more hybrid car will land into Malaysia soon.
Next should be CRZ and others Toyota hybrid car. |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:06 PM
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crz expected to enter malaysia market in jun @ july this year, estimated price rm130k.. not really sure bout the price..
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Mar 4 2011, 12:46 PM
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IINM the MUGEN version will have about 200hp & maybe a petrol only CRZ. (Maybe K20A)
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Apr 23 2011, 12:55 PM
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WALAO , i still waiting for d CRZ leh-.-" i canot wait addddd ahh.. im going to contact honda malaysia now!!!!! to bring down the car now >< jus joking haha..
i heard honda showroom available for booking already for CRZ rm1,000.. true "? |
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Apr 28 2011, 03:57 PM
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any updates on this baby?
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Apr 28 2011, 04:21 PM
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i rather get dc5 over this
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Apr 28 2011, 05:04 PM
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y my car no like dis
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Apr 28 2011, 06:15 PM
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cuz ur car not CR-Z.
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Apr 29 2011, 03:07 PM
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Any news on this car. I'm going to buy this car 2nd hand if it's enter malaysia in the next few years & put K20a inside it.....Hopefully.....
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Apr 29 2011, 03:38 PM
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Apr 29 2011, 03:55 PM
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Great!!! Wuts the price?
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Apr 30 2011, 01:04 AM
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is the coming CRZ a hybrid car? which type of engine? i heard price around 130k, using hybrid engine or ?
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Apr 30 2011, 01:29 AM
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utusan kluar already in march
expected price rm120k |
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Apr 30 2011, 03:06 AM
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Apr 30 2011, 08:35 AM
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Apr 30 2011, 07:00 PM
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Me too, i in-love CR-Z white!!, RM118 sound worth it IF full spec
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Apr 30 2011, 07:03 PM
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will sell my NHC and get CRZ
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May 1 2011, 02:19 AM
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May 1 2011, 04:24 AM
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erm its like 70% of reliableness?
it told by a Honda Sa ,i dont think he is lie because he already mention of the booking fee too.. |
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May 4 2011, 03:48 PM
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anybody booking it already?
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May 4 2011, 06:04 PM
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checked with my SA and so far he said HM not yet start taking orders wor...
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May 7 2011, 04:35 PM
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i heard tat is coming out 3rd quarter of this year.. 118k ..
@@ but jus now i went to honda SA in seremban.. they said.. no news about crz yet.. cannot book yetr..@@ .. haiz |
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May 7 2011, 04:48 PM
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Can start booking, but tentatively still no news... They take your RM10000 booking fees, but actually still no news yet... Supposedly July, but due to happenings in Japan, it is delayed.
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May 9 2011, 01:49 AM
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i wonder why all hybrid car got a weird bontot =.=?
somehow it look height |
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May 10 2011, 07:00 PM
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Honda malaysia have stop taking Insight order,i think CR-Z after all no luck be here.
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May 10 2011, 07:18 PM
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I'm guessing Malaysia will only get the automatic version?
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May 11 2011, 03:30 AM
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The purpose of CRZ is to save fuel, and manual saves more fuel than automatics. That is of course unless you have no idea how to drive one. Be a man sports!
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QUOTE(stalkerrox @ May 11 2011, 08:32 AM) I think for CR-Z it is the other way round.From CR-Z brochure: CVT @ 37 mpg combined (35 city/39 highway) 6MT @ 34 combined (31 city/37 highway) Could be because of the CVT transmission which has lower power loss than conventional auto or manual. However, personally felt CVT has no KICK...! You need 6MT on CR-Z to feel the kick yo... This post has been edited by devinz: May 11 2011, 09:51 AM |
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QUOTE(stormlcc @ May 11 2011, 10:02 AM) yes, for old model auto gearboxes, newer cvt or dual clutch actually saves more fuel because they are more efficient and power loss is minimum yes bro.. thats why i was asking him cause he looks like he was refering to like every auto gb i was suppose to wait for CR-Z too but ended up i sold my city and bought GTI cause of the lack of HP the CR-Z has... but i really love the looks of this CR-Z cant wait to see it on roads in msia.. |
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May 11 2011, 01:38 PM
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yo stalker !
i am maocheng =D remember me? |
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May 11 2011, 02:13 PM
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I'll cancel my intention to get the Polo if this car is definitely coming to our shores. This baby can be my perfect second car. This car is porno! Ooops...
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Is CVT suppose to be using similiar tech as DSG? Coz CVT is still automatic instead of using clutch like DSG.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Oct 23 2010, 06:43 PM) Even with 0% tax, Honda Malaysia will mark up the price to maximize their profits. fast than type r carIt's still slower than the old CR-X. Spoon CR-Z VS Civic Type-R Euro http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...e&v=mq-PB54s4cc |
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QUOTE(what_17s @ Jun 7 2011, 03:25 PM) fast than type r car sweet...Spoon CR-Z VS Civic Type-R Euro http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...e&v=mq-PB54s4cc wonder if this ever make it to BolehLand..no news till now..any bros, have any news on this? |
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Jun 8 2011, 04:30 PM
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had a chat with Honda salesman, initially HM still have not decided on bringing in this CRZ as the price has not confirm yet.
Apparently Honda Malaysia could not get confirmation from the G on the tax exemption, etc etc. all money matters... if you know what i mean. |
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Honda Malaysia is under DRB Hicom right?
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Jun 8 2011, 06:02 PM
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The car should be and will be selling here in 2012.
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Jun 21 2011, 11:05 AM
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any news about this car?
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Jun 21 2011, 11:16 AM
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Jun 21 2011, 11:48 AM
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maybe they have a problem in getting the ap....while honda hard to get ap, those roadside recon car seller seems to be getting it easier...damn
if 120k, seems like a good choice . a brand new honda sports coupe for rm120k. 6 speed manual, save petrol some more. torque is about 144NM, and 115hp++. hem.... This post has been edited by turbocharged: Jun 21 2011, 12:11 PM |
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Jun 21 2011, 11:48 AM
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hear alot hu ha here and there all said on julai....
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Jun 21 2011, 11:50 AM
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i doubt will be in July.
Coz if really in July, the SA will already be summoned to HM for product training. Usually its 1 month earlier the sales training starts. but so far has been quite quiet... This post has been edited by devinz: Jul 26 2011, 06:22 PM |
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Jul 26 2011, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(devinz @ Jun 21 2011, 11:50 AM) i doubt will be in July. content not found la, what is that?Coz if really in July, the SA will already be summoned to HM for product training. Usually its 1 month earlier the sales training starts. but so far has been quite quiet... Added on July 21, 2011, 11:24 amFinally!!! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=222...&type=1&theater |
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The more I look at Honda Insight, the more I think they both look too much alike from the back... Which, I feel, is a bad thing.
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Jul 28 2011, 12:38 PM
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manual.. cant drive it haha
if they start bringing in this model this year.. insight sales sure down |
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Jul 28 2011, 12:46 PM
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November will be in... Around 120K for 6MT
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Jul 28 2011, 12:53 PM
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Yes... They held a private meeting 3 weeks ago and this is what they decided...
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i tot they wouldve bring in auto ones
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Jul 28 2011, 01:32 PM
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Any honda SA ard in lyn? wanna book this car
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Jul 28 2011, 02:16 PM
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There will be CVT and 6MT variant according to them... I hoping they will have both test drive unit though.
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if its really 120k i dun need a test drive.. was already planning an insight lately
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Best option is Insight for wife drive, CRZ i drive
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Jul 28 2011, 12:46 PM) QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Jul 28 2011, 02:16 PM) There will be CVT and 6MT variant according to them... I hoping they will have both test drive unit though. Hi bro,earlier you mentioned it is 6MT (manual) but you got wind will have CVT also?? |
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cool car, cant wait for the launch
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because its a different sort of car for different sort of people
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Seen CRZ before. Can't sit anyone at the back
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Wonder how bad will be the rear legroom...
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its a 2 seaters so no rear leg room -.-
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it is a 2+2 seater... can seat but very cramp...
tomato sauce? CRZ back seat? saw the real car last year... This post has been edited by kakashi...: Aug 5 2011, 06:44 PM |
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Too bad 99.9% HM won't be bringing the Mugen full kit... Everything just nice, but judging from the price from MUGEN.... Woooo
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Hybrid model only?
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Aug 5 2011, 09:34 PM
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If it is legal and possible
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QUOTE(devinz @ Aug 4 2011, 10:12 PM) Saw one upclose personally while I was in UK. The back seat only can fit kids ![]() ![]() as you can see the photo above, the back window is how big the back seat is. the other segment is the boot trunk This post has been edited by chizzu: Aug 6 2011, 12:32 AM |
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looking at the latest news kinda bring more hope this car is coming in by year end..
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wanna lug around your friends at the back? surely this car ain't for you.. lol
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Aug 14 2011, 04:37 AM
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no news yet?
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Aug 15 2011, 10:09 AM
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Honda SA are all saying not this year.. wondering to trust them or not.. haha
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some updates:
CRZ 1.5(M) ~ November 2011 CRZ 1.5 (CVT) ~ To be advised City MMC ~ December 2011 Civic (9th Gen) ~ Feb 2012 CRV 2.0 (4th Gen) ~ Q2 2012 Source: http://tovahondafan.blogspot.com/2011/08/n...nformation.html Added on August 26, 2011, 11:22 amWith the soon to be launch of POLO GTI, guess will somehow divide the take up of CR-Z... This post has been edited by devinz: Aug 26 2011, 11:22 AM |
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Aug 26 2011, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(devinz @ Aug 26 2011, 11:21 AM) some updates: performance wise, we know how fast is polo gti CRZ 1.5(M) ~ November 2011 CRZ 1.5 (CVT) ~ To be advised City MMC ~ December 2011 Civic (9th Gen) ~ Feb 2012 CRV 2.0 (4th Gen) ~ Q2 2012 Source: http://tovahondafan.blogspot.com/2011/08/n...nformation.html Added on August 26, 2011, 11:22 amWith the soon to be launch of POLO GTI, guess will somehow divide the take up of CR-Z... |
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Aug 26 2011, 02:44 PM
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Sep 12 2011, 08:49 PM
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can pre-order already? would like to place order already for this car.
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Sep 13 2011, 12:11 PM
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Sep 13 2011, 08:58 PM
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Greetings,
Honda CR-Z Sport Hybrid - Honda Global Amity Waiting List http://www.globalamity.com.my/ Get on the waiting list before its too late! Email your details to crz@globalamity.com.my 1)Name 2)Tel (hp) / Tel (office) 3)Email 4)Preferred Delivery Date (2011 or 2012) 5)Trade in car - make/model/year 6)Color http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=247...&type=1&theater Honda Global Amity is an Authorized 3S Honda Dealership in KL. Like us on facebook at http://www.facebook.com/HondaGlobalAmity |
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QUOTE(devinz @ Sep 13 2011, 12:11 PM) i think some outlet are accepting pre-order... yeah i already have an insight... just kepo to check on the waiting list thingy. may change to crz the price everything is good.westlife, i thought you already have an insight? heard cr-z will me 6MT manual... if it is manual i confirm not interest unless it is auto with paddle shift. |
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CRZ for the looks
Polo GTi for the powder. QUOTE(devinz @ Aug 26 2011, 11:21 AM) some updates: CRZ 1.5(M) ~ November 2011 CRZ 1.5 (CVT) ~ To be advised City MMC ~ December 2011 Civic (9th Gen) ~ Feb 2012 CRV 2.0 (4th Gen) ~ Q2 2012 Source: http://tovahondafan.blogspot.com/2011/08/n...nformation.html Added on August 26, 2011, 11:22 amWith the soon to be launch of POLO GTI, guess will somehow divide the take up of CR-Z... |
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Sep 29 2011, 08:55 PM
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I went to Honda dealer today. The sales told me CRZ CVT not confirmed whether coming to M'sia?
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Sep 29 2011, 09:31 PM
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doubt crz will beat the polo gti at 180ps. this crz is hybrid.
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i think crz is quite lame for, small,compact, narrow, plastic interior, hybrid but millage dont impress at all , and selling damn expensive in MY.
positive is, exterior futuristic ,and interior gauge also, three mode drivie(just gimmick for me cuz not much differ after switch just feel the torque more and a bit accelerate), eventually this type car is for personal stylish buyer. |
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ Oct 1 2011, 01:14 PM) i think crz is quite lame for, small,compact, narrow, plastic interior, hybrid but millage dont impress at all , and selling damn expensive in MY. Wait till u drive the Mugen version.. Btw the design of crx is very tempting... positive is, exterior futuristic ,and interior gauge also, three mode drivie(just gimmick for me cuz not much differ after switch just feel the torque more and a bit accelerate), eventually this type car is for personal stylish buyer. |
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Oct 1 2011, 03:49 PM
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Oct 1 2011, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ Oct 1 2011, 01:14 PM) i think crz is quite lame for, small,compact, narrow, plastic interior, hybrid but millage dont impress at all , and selling damn expensive in MY. same price, polo gti will beat itpositive is, exterior futuristic ,and interior gauge also, three mode drivie(just gimmick for me cuz not much differ after switch just feel the torque more and a bit accelerate), eventually this type car is for personal stylish buyer. |
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Oct 1 2011, 09:48 PM
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Oct 1 2011, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ Oct 1 2011, 01:14 PM) i think crz is quite lame for, small,compact, narrow, plastic interior, hybrid but millage dont impress at all , and selling damn expensive in MY. Well,u cant have it all...its a first of its kind, a hybrid yet to produce sportiness feeling from its chasis and handling...positive is, exterior futuristic ,and interior gauge also, three mode drivie(just gimmick for me cuz not much differ after switch just feel the torque more and a bit accelerate), eventually this type car is for personal stylish buyer. More or less like suzuki swift sport,people dont say it is power crazy car,but it is really agile and fun to drive if u like to corner around hard. Honda has make the CRZ platform from Insight but they strengthen it to be on par with Civic type R...and the civic type r chassis are a lot more stronger than Intergra so u bet the CRZ will too be 'FUN' to drive....not fast to drive Another thing worthy is that Malaysia dont impose tax for hybrid car with low engine CC....so i would say i might be a good buy |
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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Oct 1 2011, 11:41 PM) Well,u cant have it all...its a first of its kind, a hybrid yet to produce sportiness feeling from its chasis and handling... SOS???More or less like suzuki swift sport,people dont say it is power crazy car,but it is really agile and fun to drive if u like to corner around hard. Honda has make the CRZ platform from Insight but they strengthen it to be on par with Civic type R...and the civic type r chassis are a lot more stronger than Intergra so u bet the CRZ will too be 'FUN' to drive....not fast to drive Another thing worthy is that Malaysia dont impose tax for hybrid car with low engine CC....so i would say i might be a good buy drove b4? This post has been edited by wc5599: Oct 3 2011, 02:32 PM |
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Oct 3 2011, 03:00 PM
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I have not driven the CRZ of coz...waiting for it...Only driven type r.
SOS here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DD2qNcvOnE...player_embedded |
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Oct 3 2011, 03:27 PM
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Opened for booking since 2 weeks ago... guess mostly fully booked on the quota since it's only 300 APs allocated nation wide.
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Oct 3 2011, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Aug 12 2011, 01:05 PM) wana 4 adult go persona, myvi... big enough 2 fit 4-5 ppls... you know that kind of feel when u r unable to fetch family/friends/relative due to how small the back seats... i'm not a selfish type of people, coz i always share car to lunch/business trip/balik kampung etc...this car is for pleasure drive with chicks... sometimes for rempit... hehe |
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Oct 3 2011, 03:41 PM
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Saw a CRZ on the NS Highway a while back, kena stopped by polis
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Oct 3 2011, 04:53 PM
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Oct 3 2011, 06:54 PM
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or might be confused with RCZ?
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Oct 4 2011, 06:09 PM
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i wonder why till now still does not have spy shot of this CR-Z since it is schedule to be launch in November...
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Oct 4 2011, 09:25 PM
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Oct 4 2011, 09:28 PM
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Oct 4 2011, 10:06 PM
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Oct 4 2011, 10:42 PM
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Bro devinz placed order?
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Oct 5 2011, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Oct 4 2011, 10:42 PM) Tentatively yes..But got to see the actual car, see how bad is the back seat and also if can dispose my FD with a good price.. so far seems 2nd hand price for FD is not that favorable.. Added on October 7, 2011, 4:46 pmBudget 2012: Full exemption of import duty and excise duty on hybrid cars and electric cars will continue to be given until 2013 This post has been edited by devinz: Oct 7 2011, 04:46 PM |
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Oct 8 2011, 12:13 AM
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Placed a booking for 1! I have been told it'll now arrive in M'sia during Dec 11 / Jan 12. Is this what every1 else hear?
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Oct 8 2011, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(devinz @ Oct 5 2011, 11:34 AM) Tentatively yes.. Therefore no hurry le... can slowly wait until the real thing arrivesBut got to see the actual car, see how bad is the back seat and also if can dispose my FD with a good price.. so far seems 2nd hand price for FD is not that favorable.. Added on October 7, 2011, 4:46 pmBudget 2012: Full exemption of import duty and excise duty on hybrid cars and electric cars will continue to be given until 2013 |
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 14 2011, 03:44 PM) ITS FINALLY HERE and with DRL...!Hope is the 2012 version with black interior!!! |
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Oct 14 2011, 04:18 PM
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It's about time they decided to bring it in.
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Oct 14 2011, 04:25 PM
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Hopefully won't get strap down much... Cause there will be some features...
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Oct 14 2011, 04:38 PM
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Oct 16 2011, 01:10 AM
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I heard manual selling 110k? Anyone can correct me...
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Is the crz under honda malaysia or grey importers?
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Oct 16 2011, 09:01 AM
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Oct 17 2011, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 17 2011, 12:31 PM) 130k?! Are they insane? Overseas its the same price as Insight and here they want to jack up extra 30%? If this is true then I'll scratch my order. CRAP! thats a bad news...i think 130 is over priced.. btw, anyone has any idea if the SA's went to the product training? heard it will launch early nov..likely 1st week of nov... |
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so....which of u has intentions of getting the CRZ n transplanting the K20A-R in it? hasport already has mounts for the conversion
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Oct 17 2011, 03:44 PM
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It's coming...
really on the way now. |
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Oct 17 2011, 03:48 PM
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ard 120k manual 6 speed only
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Oct 17 2011, 03:54 PM
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Oct 17 2011, 04:04 PM
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Check out paultan.org blog.
It is mentioned there... on the latest post of him. |
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Oct 17 2011, 04:10 PM
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2 door cars is always more expensive in malaysia...
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120k still acceptable...its uses the same chassis and further strengthened it to the level
of the honda civic type R....That means its chassis rigidity is stronger than integra dc5 so if insight is around 100k...add 6k for the engine add 4k for the performance tyres and a little bit of this and that another 10k should be ok...130k then its a turn down |
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Oct 17 2011, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Oct 17 2011, 04:21 PM) 120k still acceptable...its uses the same chassis and further strengthened it to the level Huh? Are you justifying the pricing on behalf of Honda?!of the honda civic type R....That means its chassis rigidity is stronger than integra dc5 so if insight is around 100k...add 6k for the engine add 4k for the performance tyres and a little bit of this and that another 10k should be ok...130k then its a turn down Pls look at how much they sellign it in US, its par Insight price maybe around $1k diff at most. Unless you saying Msia spec have a more rigid chassism better tyres, better engine blah blah blah |
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QUOTE(darkjackal @ Oct 17 2011, 04:04 PM) +1thanks bro for spotting it! http://paultan.org/2011/10/17/honda-cr-z-s...on-in-malaysia/ |
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who wouldn't love this
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Oct 20 2011, 12:49 AM
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I've booked mine already. Now awaiting delivery.
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Oct 20 2011, 09:17 AM
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You booked?
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QUOTE(devinz @ Oct 17 2011, 04:47 PM) So will launch nexmonth ? cool ~ mesti mahal |
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how much???
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Oct 20 2011, 10:36 PM
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why so kancheong book?
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Oct 21 2011, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 21 2011, 07:19 AM) but with that price i would rather get a Golf TSI... hot hatch! Added on October 21, 2011, 9:33 amcheck this out... http://tovahondafan.blogspot.com/2011/10/c...r-z-launch.html "right at the start of next month.." so meaning likely to be launch by the first weekend, 4th or 5th November? That's 2 weeks from NOW!!! This post has been edited by devinz: Oct 21 2011, 09:33 AM |
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Oct 21 2011, 11:56 PM
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But will not cheap! In US both insight and crz same prices...
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Oct 22 2011, 10:53 PM
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anyone ordered CRZ already?
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For 100K+, it gonna b a big hit in bolehland.
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today I talk to an SA from the showroom.
they predict it will launch at 3rd week of nov, as they havent gone thru the product training yet which will happen in 2 weeks time. They said max could be 120k but very likely around 110k. |
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Oct 24 2011, 12:56 AM
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Below 110k then will surely got more buyer... Else wait for other model coming in soon...
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cant wait to test drive, 6 speed hybrid sound like a killer
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manual will arrived 1st
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hehe...i think this car won't be cheap....haha...just like jetta pricing....wat the rumors said and the exactly pricing is totally a huge different.....
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Just got called... EST RM120k
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good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++...
family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices old man wont grab this... not worth the price... in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car... |
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 05:56 PM) good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++... 120k also expensive for 2 door type cars? even 4door CT200h so small inside also grab like hot cakes.. family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices old man wont grab this... not worth the price... in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car... |
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Ct can fit 4-5 persons for Crz confirmed 2adult only
Ct waiting list is too long many of my friends still not get the car including me! I consider crz if the prices is 110k for manual I dun mind to order 1 for daily use to work since driving big car feel bored |
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 05:56 PM) good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++... a lot of fresh grad that are going to buy civic will consider this car.family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices old man wont grab this... not worth the price... in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car... come on, which fresh grad needs a 5 seater civic? they need a 130k car to stand out from vios/city |
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QUOTE(ethan99 @ Oct 25 2011, 07:23 PM) Ct can fit 4-5 persons for Crz confirmed 2adult only it's not about fitting how many ppl ler.. 2 door usually higher priced than 4door mah.. E class coupe higher than sedan, 3series E92 more exp than 4door e90 etc etc..Ct waiting list is too long many of my friends still not get the car including me! I consider crz if the prices is 110k for manual I dun mind to order 1 for daily use to work since driving big car feel bored |
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 05:56 PM) good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++... for me i am interested. but no manual for me la family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices old man wont grab this... not worth the price... in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car... |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 25 2011, 06:37 PM) 120k also expensive for 2 door type cars? even 4door CT200h so small inside also grab like hot cakes.. i can say if around 110k, most likely selling like hot cake...but 120k++, dun think will do... will u grab this if price @ 120k++? Added on October 25, 2011, 11:03 pm QUOTE(ethan99 @ Oct 25 2011, 07:23 PM) Ct can fit 4-5 persons for Crz confirmed 2adult only less than 170k oledi can grab a lexus... many ppls' dream... lol...Ct waiting list is too long many of my friends still not get the car including me! I consider crz if the prices is 110k for manual I dun mind to order 1 for daily use to work since driving big car feel bored u made a great choice, ct looks nice... just the price is quite off (for me la)... but lexus ma, wat to expect? This post has been edited by kakashi...: Oct 25 2011, 11:03 PM |
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 10:55 PM) i can say if around 110k, most likely selling like hot cake... if 110-120k can consider anyway waiting for auto price details then decide lor probably early next year.. but 120k++, dun think will do... will u grab this if price @ 120k++? Added on October 25, 2011, 11:03 pm less than 170k oledi can grab a lexus... many ppls' dream... lol... u made a great choice, ct looks nice... just the price is quite off (for me la)... but lexus ma, wat to expect? |
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Got a call from Honda salesman yesterday. Was informed that only 100 units available til end of this year. Manual Transmission and white color available for the time being with no further confirmation that the CVT model will be brought in to our malaysian shores.
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 05:56 PM) good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++... what u mentioned is true. i feel exactly the same.family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices old man wont grab this... not worth the price... in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car... rm110k for a 1.5L honda city/jazz engine (correct me if im wrong) that comes with a 14hp electric motor.... wtf! but when we put crz into the european hatch chart, the handling is on par with mini, clio, golf's handling; where these euro hatches easily cost 50% more pricy then the crz. so if any1 looking for a practical, spacious, versatile, affordable kind of car, look elsewhere pls. there is only few selling points in crz = 1. handling and 2. hybrid gimmick. frankly, i couldnt think of any car handles better than the crz for rm100k range (havnt test drive it, only collected lotsa overseas test drive reports n reviews). crz is a bargain for the petrolheads, not family man. enuf said. This post has been edited by yamato: Oct 26 2011, 02:28 PM |
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Agreed... Will see how the response from market...
QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2011, 02:27 PM) what u mentioned is true. i feel exactly the same. rm110k for a 1.5L honda city/jazz engine (correct me if im wrong) that comes with a 14hp electric motor.... wtf! but when we put crz into the european hatch chart, the handling is on par with mini, clio, golf's handling; where these euro hatches easily cost 50% more pricy then the crz. so if any1 looking for a practical, spacious, versatile, affordable kind of car, look elsewhere pls. there is only few selling points in crz = 1. handling and 2. hybrid gimmick. frankly, i couldnt think of any car handles better than the crz for rm100k range (havnt test drive it, only collected lotsa overseas test drive reports n reviews). crz is a bargain for the petrolheads, not family man. enuf said. |
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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2011, 02:27 PM) what u mentioned is true. i feel exactly the same. CRZ handling is no match to mini, no where near the highly appraise renault sport clio's and they are all almost the same price in overseas.rm110k for a 1.5L honda city/jazz engine (correct me if im wrong) that comes with a 14hp electric motor.... wtf! but when we put crz into the european hatch chart, the handling is on par with mini, clio, golf's handling; where these euro hatches easily cost 50% more pricy then the crz. so if any1 looking for a practical, spacious, versatile, affordable kind of car, look elsewhere pls. there is only few selling points in crz = 1. handling and 2. hybrid gimmick. frankly, i couldnt think of any car handles better than the crz for rm100k range (havnt test drive it, only collected lotsa overseas test drive reports n reviews). crz is a bargain for the petrolheads, not family man. enuf said. For handling at less than 100k, I would choose to wait for the new swift sport, minus the battery to worry about, 4 doors, factory tuned engine, suspension etc. |
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QUOTE(Yeapy @ Oct 27 2011, 12:48 AM) CRZ handling is no match to mini, no where near the highly appraise renault sport clio's and they are all almost the same price in overseas. Its just mean sporty,not sports car....CRZ chassis are the same with honda insight but then they strengthen andFor handling at less than 100k, I would choose to wait for the new swift sport, minus the battery to worry about, 4 doors, factory tuned engine, suspension etc. make it more rigid to the same level as the new fd2r...which means the crz rigidity is better than integra dc5 anyway there's no point to talk about its handling what more to compare them since we have not even test driven it yet Anyway the good news is Honda will make CRZ official launch on next week 3rd of NOV my burfday is on 5th nov,how good if this will be my present LOL |
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2011, 02:27 PM) what u mentioned is true. i feel exactly the same. yeah definitely worthwhile to get due to the exemption of tax.rm110k for a 1.5L honda city/jazz engine (correct me if im wrong) that comes with a 14hp electric motor.... wtf! but when we put crz into the european hatch chart, the handling is on par with mini, clio, golf's handling; where these euro hatches easily cost 50% more pricy then the crz. so if any1 looking for a practical, spacious, versatile, affordable kind of car, look elsewhere pls. there is only few selling points in crz = 1. handling and 2. hybrid gimmick. frankly, i couldnt think of any car handles better than the crz for rm100k range (havnt test drive it, only collected lotsa overseas test drive reports n reviews). crz is a bargain for the petrolheads, not family man. enuf said. |
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What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah.
PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US : Insight EX : $21,815 CRZ EX : $21,105 So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are. |
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 30 2011, 03:45 PM) What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah. Agreed...PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US : Insight EX : $21,815 CRZ EX : $21,105 So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are. |
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 30 2011, 03:45 PM) What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah. honda malaysia treat those buyers like dumbass... anyway, wait for the pricing... few more days later....PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US : Insight EX : $21,815 CRZ EX : $21,105 So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are. |
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Well, Sooner or later they will bring in the Mugen Edition 1 for sure.. haha..
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Nov 1 2011, 02:46 PM
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Heard Honda Malaysia will officially launched CR-Z on 3rd November!
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Nov 1 2011, 03:36 PM
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Yes bro Devinz, by the end of this week around
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 30 2011, 03:45 PM) What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah. Looks like a sports car (2-door) so charge premium lor....PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US : Insight EX : $21,815 CRZ EX : $21,105 So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are. |
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you forget that Honda Jazz and Freed...both priced by local Honda at a price "nobody" cares to buy at 100k+ for a "duuuhhhh" 1.5
to me, Honda is a ripoff themselves.... they can price the CRZ as "sports" and make the car sale tax higher.... anything is possible. This post has been edited by finkl1: Nov 2 2011, 12:18 PM |
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:17 PM) you forget that Honda Jazz and Freed...both priced by local Honda at a price "nobody" cares to buy at 100k+ for a "duuuhhhh" 1.5 Jazz and Freed are CBU, therefore higher tax...to me, Honda is a ripoff themselves.... they can price the CRZ as "sports" and make the car sale tax higher.... anything is possible. CRZ is 2 door... definitely more expensive... different tax structure by the gahmen... |
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Nov 2 2011, 08:20 PM
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This Nov is the launching manual version hybrid
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:17 PM) you forget that Honda Jazz and Freed...both priced by local Honda at a price "nobody" cares to buy at 100k+ for a "duuuhhhh" 1.5 better than toyota.....at least they offer decent specs for the high price.to me, Honda is a ripoff themselves.... they can price the CRZ as "sports" and make the car sale tax higher.... anything is possible. |
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Nov 2 2011, 09:49 PM
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confirm by a honda SA, the price is RM120K; 2 doors 4 seats
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wah , very $$$$$ , middle class or high price
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Why not 110k?
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Nov 3 2011, 12:07 AM
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hmmm...when will the Hyundai Veloster be out here n the pricing?
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Today thestar paper got 1 full page on this release.
So tempting but 120k is really bit too much... Was expecting around 110k |
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QUOTE(darkjackal @ Nov 3 2011, 10:03 AM) Today thestar paper got 1 full page on this release. you mean advert on the star bro??So tempting but 120k is really bit too much... Was expecting around 110k Added on November 3, 2011, 11:06 am QUOTE(devinz @ Nov 3 2011, 10:45 AM) Found it..http://mystar.my/ads/ad.aspx?id=e0c08691-d...56-ae86532425d1 This post has been edited by devinz: Nov 3 2011, 11:06 AM |
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Ppl will still buy..
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Nov 3 2011, 12:15 PM
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Confirm RM120K.
Only comes in 6-speed Manual. Current Honda Malaysia's catalogue shows only available in White colour. |
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My dad works for Honda.He brought a few home for me to see.
Actual date for launching is actually today.But the ship hasn't arrive.So,probably launch by this week or next week. |
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So that's why its not posted yet on honda.com.my
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QUOTE(rikmungmail @ Nov 3 2011, 12:20 PM) My dad works for Honda.He brought a few home for me to see. did ur dad tell u y honda malaysia mark up the price so high?Actual date for launching is actually today.But the ship hasn't arrive.So,probably launch by this week or next week. any scanner? mind to leak out the catalogue? This post has been edited by kakashi...: Nov 3 2011, 12:22 PM |
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Don't you think RM120k is overpriced? Provided this Hybrid is not subject to any tax structure... so we shouldn't categorise it as Sports/Sedan as normal car...
Sales tax should be affect the category as well... Don't get me wrong, I love this car but I think the price is marked up quite high @ RM120k... |
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Nov 3 2011, 12:44 PM) Don't you think RM120k is overpriced? Provided this Hybrid is not subject to any tax structure... so we shouldn't categorise it as Sports/Sedan as normal car... This car price is on par with Insight, only in Malaysia they put in a premium of RM20k. Malaysia Boleh.Sales tax should be affect the category as well... Don't get me wrong, I love this car but I think the price is marked up quite high @ RM120k... |
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Nov 3 2011, 12:44 PM) Don't you think RM120k is overpriced? Provided this Hybrid is not subject to any tax structure... so we shouldn't categorise it as Sports/Sedan as normal car... Yelah dude, RM 120k is an overkill. Should be around 95k to 110k. Then a lot of people can do justice to the environment by going green. Sales tax should be affect the category as well... Don't get me wrong, I love this car but I think the price is marked up quite high @ RM120k... Added on November 3, 2011, 1:18 pm QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 3 2011, 01:14 PM) This car price is on par with Insight, only in Malaysia they put in a premium of RM20k. Malaysia Boleh. Its HONDA dude. Surely they will add an extra 10 to 20k to the actual/should be price of the car just because they can & people are still willing to pay for it. Its up to us as consumers to do the rest. This post has been edited by DAVE008: Nov 3 2011, 01:18 PM |
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120k is steep...
have you guys watched vtec club vol.8? the spoon tuned crz whacked the euro civic type r around the track. in b4; tuned by spoon sure win, euro type r sux, keiichi driving sure win, bla bla but fact is, its still a 1.5l HYBRID and it beat a type r. |
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QUOTE(cfc-free @ Nov 3 2011, 01:39 PM) 120k is steep... how much they spent in the spoon crz? with money, anything is possible...have you guys watched vtec club vol.8? the spoon tuned crz whacked the euro civic type r around the track. in b4; tuned by spoon sure win, euro type r sux, keiichi driving sure win, bla bla but fact is, its still a 1.5l HYBRID and it beat a type r. |
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erm..the things i can get from the video is, a new exhaust and intake, spoon brakes and suspension, and a higher final drive. 4.1-4.3..
maybe got more but thats all i could understand. . still mighty impressive editted: found the list of mods here : http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/04/19...ports-cr-z.aspx This post has been edited by cfc-free: Nov 3 2011, 02:07 PM |
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i think RM120k is reasonable, as the Insight found in malaysia is the lowest spec among the all the Insight variant, if u compare CRZ with the highest spec of Insight, should be similar.
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QUOTE(chris_tco @ Nov 3 2011, 02:03 PM) i think RM120k is reasonable, as the Insight found in malaysia is the lowest spec among the all the Insight variant, if u compare CRZ with the highest spec of Insight, should be similar. Lowest spec insight = lowest spec CRZ. Highest spec insight = highest spec CRZ price.So are you saying the Insight offered in Msia is lowest spec while the CRZ is HIGHEST spec? Have u seen which spec is the CRZ? |
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the price that u guys compare is putting highest spec of insight to compare CRZ which found similar price range in US
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QUOTE(chris_tco @ Nov 3 2011, 02:11 PM) the price that u guys compare is putting highest spec of insight to compare CRZ which found similar price range in US Dude at least read a few post back. I compared US price based on SIMILAR spec for CRZ/Insight.As for the specs of Insight v CRZ here. DO you know what spec is the CRZ? Its the TOP spec? |
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QUOTE(cfc-free @ Nov 3 2011, 01:56 PM) erm..the things i can get from the video is, a new exhaust and intake, spoon brakes and suspension, and a higher final drive. 4.1-4.3.. Most important is the weight shaving, the car weighs only 950kgs which is impressivemaybe got more but thats all i could understand. . still mighty impressive editted: found the list of mods here : http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/04/19...ports-cr-z.aspx 150BHP with a 950kg chassis, good enough ^^ |
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 3 2011, 02:56 PM) Most important is the weight shaving, the car weighs only 950kgs which is impressive That's what made the old CRX famous... its not the power... but the power to weight ratio.. yum yum! Thought I was about to relive the old legend ... but at 120k.. bleh.... lacking motivation le150BHP with a 950kg chassis, good enough ^^ |
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6 speed manual acceptable , manual rocks , but i rather choose a full petrol manual car ,
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still no detail release of the launch...
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If Insight is said to be lowest spec, then it shouldn't priced at 90-100k at first place... right? Yet again, where did the 'tax' went? Commercial AP/Gov hidden tax/Honda Malaysia?
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some one mentioned, the CR-Z is price @ 115K..
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someone claimed that he called to ask with honda malaysia and he said he it is 115k.
Which is true? wait for the answer ba. |
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who is gonna buy jazz once this is launched? but on the other hand...its going to be tough to beat the VW polo if it costs the same or more then the polo
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yea its 115k with 6 speed MT
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 3 2011, 02:56 PM) Most important is the weight shaving, the car weighs only 950kgs which is impressive summarized from the webpage...150BHP with a 950kg chassis, good enough ^^ 1. lightweight carbon fiber hood 2. finely balancing pistons, conrods, crankshaft with Spoon low-friction bearings 3. Exhaust headers and a full N1 race exhaust system 4. 21% larger throttle (up from 50 mm to 56 mm) 5. Spoon ECU 6. extended tower bar 7. Toyo Tires Turnpike 8. Spoon 17-inch CR93 wheels 9. fully adjustable race suspension 10. Spoon 4-pot monobloc calipers 11. low-mounted Spoon carbon-Kevlar bucket seats 12. Spoon LED-type side mirrors damn those parts would probably buy another crz after the shipping cost, government tax charged... Added on November 3, 2011, 4:47 pm QUOTE(cfc-free @ Nov 3 2011, 03:54 PM) who is gonna buy jazz once this is launched? but on the other hand...its going to be tough to beat the VW polo if it costs the same or more then the polo when u have a family with 2-3 kids then u know...Added on November 3, 2011, 4:48 pm QUOTE(DM3 @ Nov 3 2011, 04:40 PM) where did u c 115k?This post has been edited by kakashi...: Nov 3 2011, 04:48 PM |
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Nov 3 2011, 04:46 PM) summarized from the webpage... I think 115K is confirm, got it from my source.1. lightweight carbon fiber hood 2. finely balancing pistons, conrods, crankshaft with Spoon low-friction bearings 3. Exhaust headers and a full N1 race exhaust system 4. 21% larger throttle (up from 50 mm to 56 mm) 5. Spoon ECU 6. extended tower bar 7. Toyo Tires Turnpike 8. Spoon 17-inch CR93 wheels 9. fully adjustable race suspension 10. Spoon 4-pot monobloc calipers 11. low-mounted Spoon carbon-Kevlar bucket seats 12. Spoon LED-type side mirrors damn those parts would probably buy another crz after the shipping cost, government tax charged... Added on November 3, 2011, 4:47 pm when u have a family with 2-3 kids then u know... Added on November 3, 2011, 4:48 pm where did u c 115k? its OTR price.. Added on November 3, 2011, 5:27 pmhttp://cbt.com.my/111103/just-launched-honda-cr-z-mt-is-rm115000-otr This post has been edited by devinz: Nov 3 2011, 05:27 PM |
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 3 2011, 05:33 PM) RM135K get Polo GTI betterAnother chick magnet car, As usual, honda good in design nice looking car. But questions come, Quality ? reliability ? This post has been edited by Renee: Nov 3 2011, 05:47 PM |
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Nov 3 2011, 06:31 PM
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For starters this car is gonna kill off the already doomed forte koup which is rubbish imo. Hopeless power from the 2.0
To those who love mt,this is the car to get. I just got my polo, but in terms of looks this crz beats polo hands down. Performance not sure need to test drive but looks and feels awesome just by looking at the pics |
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Nov 3 2011, 07:24 PM
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Agree this car is all about LOOKS. You LOOK fast... but... at the end of the day its still a hybrid.
Is 115/120k somehting I will pay for a car that looks like this? Yes. Will I buy this? No.. cause I feel I'm being ripped off by 15K for no reason. If Insight is 120k, and CRZ is 120k, I'll go book a CRZ tomorrow. |
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Nov 3 2011, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 3 2011, 07:24 PM) Agree this car is all about LOOKS. You LOOK fast... but... at the end of the day its still a hybrid. add 15k to get a civic 2.0 with practical and high resale value. Is 115/120k somehting I will pay for a car that looks like this? Yes. Will I buy this? No.. cause I feel I'm being ripped off by 15K for no reason. If Insight is 120k, and CRZ is 120k, I'll go book a CRZ tomorrow. and faster than this car |
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Nov 3 2011, 07:31 PM
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Guys,
You can view full catalog on Honda Malaysia website. Go and visit Honda Malaysia website. |
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Nov 3 2011, 07:42 PM
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er where is tax free for hybrid...
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Nov 3 2011, 07:43 PM
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Nov 3 2011, 07:57 PM
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suitable for single young
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Nov 3 2011, 08:10 PM
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Nov 3 2011, 08:10 PM
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Nov 3 2011, 09:09 PM
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Amoi using golf to smoke your CRZ.
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Nov 3 2011, 09:43 PM
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CRZ!!!! can start booking liao ah. damn now start thinking again.
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Nov 3 2011, 09:52 PM
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Nov 3 2011, 09:57 PM
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very tempting ! should I stay loyal to my sss or move into the Power of Dreams bandwagon
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Nov 3 2011, 09:58 PM
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not bad
for this car i can buy it to drive on weekend with 6 MT to go jalan jalan awaits review especially for its handling |
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Nov 3 2011, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(Renee @ Nov 3 2011, 05:45 PM) RM135K get Polo GTI better I am still waiting for my Golf GTI SE to be delivered coming from an ex civic FD driver here, but a CRZ + K20A ill smoke the hell out of the polo gti any day any where : )Another chick magnet car, As usual, honda good in design nice looking car. But questions come, Quality ? reliability ? |
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Nov 4 2011, 12:24 AM
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i find it amusing to see the CR-Z thread turning into some amoi thread or "might as well buy x car with same money/top up y amount of money"
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Nov 4 2011, 01:24 AM
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Compare with WV Polo? LOL....the current polo for malaysia market is the lowest spec,there's no fog lamp and no chrome garnish as in the brochure...look at the real car and its is UGLY. The interior is soooo boring and dull and if u tot it has good built quality think again,those buttons and clicks aren't that high end,nuff said....well of coz its better than most japs car... And its a different category too,if want to compare,bring up another 2 door,then we talking...Dun say those add 10k get this add 10k get that rubbish...who doesn't know
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Nov 4 2011, 01:55 AM
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well, on a side note, who can go test drive the CRZ and give us a review?
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Nov 4 2011, 02:01 AM
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i would love to but dunno where
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Nov 4 2011, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Nov 3 2011, 10:46 PM) not bad same thinking at first for wanting to buy it as weekend car..for this car i can buy it to drive on weekend with 6 MT to go jalan jalan awaits review especially for its handling but hang on a minute.. what is the purpose of having hybrid?? it's to save fuel when u drive it EVERYDAY |
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Nov 4 2011, 03:28 AM
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Nov 4 2011, 03:44 AM
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Hybrid doesn't mean must save fuel la...There are many other who concern on the environment yet want a sporty drive...Has u driven o stand near a RX7? Even at idling tat engine emits lots of unburnt fuel...leaving kaw kaw carbon behind
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Nov 4 2011, 07:32 AM
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there is an Owner's thread for CRZ if you're serious.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2094804 but if you're tok kok about CRZ ,i guess this thread is more suitable. lol. CRZ reviews are plenty in the internet too. |
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with reflection as a malaysian....
a manual... a hybrid, that was stated...tax exemption... a 1.5 ....and it cost more than a moronic 100k. forgot to mention, the battery lifespan...using the same as Insight. Honda just burned it's 1.5 segment with alot of 100k cars...that won't get bought by Malaysians, fact is ....there are better options out there with those prices...gud luck. |
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Nov 4 2011, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Nov 4 2011, 01:24 AM) Compare with WV Polo? LOL....the current polo for malaysia market is the lowest spec,there's no fog lamp and no chrome garnish as in the brochure...look at the real car and its is UGLY. The interior is soooo boring and dull and if u tot it has good built quality think again,those buttons and clicks aren't that high end,nuff said....well of coz its better than most japs car... And its a different category too,if want to compare,bring up another 2 door,then we talking...Dun say those add 10k get this add 10k get that rubbish...who doesn't know seriously, polo looks terrible.... those who buy polo look for the brand onli... lol...they proud to own a vw at the cheapest price... Added on November 4, 2011, 9:38 am QUOTE(finkl1 @ Nov 4 2011, 08:17 AM) with reflection as a malaysian.... polo 1.2? fiesta? 308t? c4? too bad none of them r 2 doors... lol...a manual... a hybrid, that was stated...tax exemption... a 1.5 ....and it cost more than a moronic 100k. forgot to mention, the battery lifespan...using the same as Insight. Honda just burned it's 1.5 segment with alot of 100k cars...that won't get bought by Malaysians, fact is ....there are better options out there with those prices...gud luck. This post has been edited by kakashi...: Nov 4 2011, 09:38 AM |
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Nov 4 2011, 04:50 PM
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any honda showroom got display honda CRZ ?
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Nov 4 2011, 05:32 PM
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A manual car in KL traffic? Seriously? Good luck!
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Nov 4 2011, 05:34 PM
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pls la MT with hydraulic assist is as easy as steppin the gas..
only msian like auto. other countries Euro/german all uses MT mostly |
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Nov 4 2011, 05:54 PM
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Nov 4 2011, 08:16 PM
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Yeap, my first car was a manual too, back 10 years ago. The traffic wasn't as bad as now but I cramped my legs too often. Now? I really can't imagine. For example along the Jalan Tun Razak after working hour ard 7pm-8pm, Friday & raining. But up to you guys. Is your body and your money. Just becareful you don't get arthritis when old.
p/s: Travel from Kelana Jaya to Kepong without fail you will stuck in the jam after working hour (7pm-9pm), all the way to One Utama from Giant Kelana Jaya. I salute those who are driving manual EVERYDAY. If to and from I would have to go through such massive & killing traffic EVERYDAY in a MANUAL CAR, i rather give in the car for an AUTO, even if it were a MT Ferrari. This post has been edited by lovehewit: Nov 4 2011, 08:23 PM |
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QUOTE(squalluz @ Nov 4 2011, 06:07 PM) I used to do that, until I can literally hear my knee creaking like an old door hinge when I pressed and depressed the clutch pedal. Not long after that, I got myself an auto. Take care of your left knee man they won't know how much it hurts or costs to fix until it happens.. |
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Nov 4 2011, 09:36 AM) seriously, polo looks terrible.... those who buy polo look for the brand onli... lol... i agree polo looks terrible...but in malaysia...u should say..too bad cr-z is 2 doorthey proud to own a vw at the cheapest price... Added on November 4, 2011, 9:38 am polo 1.2? fiesta? 308t? c4? too bad none of them r 2 doors... lol... |
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Nov 8 2011, 07:20 PM
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is this a crz bashing thread? hmmm.....dont like dont buy la.
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y got 2 crz thread? mod can merge ah?
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Nov 8 2011, 07:43 PM
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Yea,nowadays damn freaking jam...i once stuck at sungei wang plaza ktv turn to lowyat going to @live kl....just the f***ing place i jam 1 hour...wtf man
My old car using super single,yea...jam time u can keep hearing door bell sound and my left knee also sound like old door hinge |
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Nov 8 2011, 07:53 PM
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honda crz for weekend car
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Nov 8 2011, 08:49 PM
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theres a cvt model, just wait =)
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QUOTE(ethan99 @ Oct 25 2011, 07:23 PM) Ct can fit 4-5 persons for Crz confirmed 2adult only CT200H NO NEED TO WAIT ANYMORE. PLACE ORDER NOW GET CAR WITHIN 2 WEEKS. I MUST SAY THE CRZ IS A GREAT CAR FOR 2 PAX.Ct waiting list is too long many of my friends still not get the car including me! I consider crz if the prices is 110k for manual I dun mind to order 1 for daily use to work since driving big car feel bored |
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from gran turismo game
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 11 2011, 10:24 AM) Unfortunately the real crz is a "looks only car" with nothing to back it up.... if i see one on the road i sure cucuk him to see how he reacts People buy specific car because he likes it and can afford it.If you dont like, you dont buy...as simple as that. Since when buying certain makes of car that you dont like become like a wrongdoer? Weird.. |
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QUOTE(devinz @ Nov 11 2011, 10:34 AM) People buy specific car because he likes it and can afford it. So defensive meh? Anyway no worries.. as long as u like the car... but if u see a gray nissan coming up behind you.. just kinda move into the middle lane ya pls! If you dont like, you dont buy...as simple as that. Since when buying certain makes of car that you dont like become like a wrongdoer? Weird.. This post has been edited by MeToo: Nov 11 2011, 11:13 AM |
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ur car bro?? if so where did you do the stripes and the mirrors?
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Dec 24 2011, 04:45 PM
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That's the Global Amity test drive unit...
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Dec 24 2011, 07:10 PM
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Till today, people still don't understand CRZ is strictly a 2 person car.
Real men drive manual. |
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This car is a beauty!!
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IlDivinCodino, got sell this kit for CR-Z? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHII7QxeMEI Hehe
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Hahah... No bro. We distribute only authorised Modulo and Mugen kits
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oh f***, so nice lol, the modulo looks nice edi. the carplate led is from u? This CR-Z is test unit or?
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How much does the Mugen body kit cost?
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So nice the car plate should be MX510 instead
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It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau....
the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock) I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly.... for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!! _______________________________ I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT... I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress... The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode) This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Dec 27 2011, 10:08 AM |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 10:05 AM) It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau.... the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock) woah... insight got speed lock.... anyway, wat is speed lock? I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly.... definitely will fly to the moon... for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!! _______________________________ I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT... I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518IR2CBKa4 The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode) |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 10:05 AM) It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau.... XionCity of insect spotted.the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock) I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly.... for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!! _______________________________ I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT... I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress... The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode) |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 10:05 AM) It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau.... haha...ivtec but 12 and 16v operation.. it u old city's VTEC la..the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock) I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly.... for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!! _______________________________ I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT... I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress... The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode) wei...wake up la bro...bangun bangun the insight and crz uses IVTEC la..variable valve timing on the INTAKE only. Watch out CIVICS, ALTIS, LANCER, INSPIRA, honda insight is coming to smoke u, HONDA, the power of dreams |
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Nov 4 2011, 09:36 AM) seriously, polo looks terrible.... those who buy polo look for the brand onli... lol... Emm VW is not veri veri famous brand also, have to say VW only scirocco looks good .... VW got back in the game because of their new engine ... TurboSuperCharged Engine. TSI Engine, it is able to have efficient FC compare to NA engines, of course it has better performance than most of the cars around ..... though polo looks dull but its seriously fun to drive. U should see Polo GTI with ABT =D looks awesome. Between Polo can beat CRZ anytime .... anyhow u look at it CR-Z is just a hybrid + IVTEC. How possible for it to be able to beat a lightweight TurboSuperCharge Engine???they proud to own a vw at the cheapest price... Added on November 4, 2011, 9:38 am polo 1.2? fiesta? 308t? c4? too bad none of them r 2 doors... lol... |
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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Nov 4 2011, 01:24 AM) Compare with WV Polo? LOL....the current polo for malaysia market is the lowest spec,there's no fog lamp and no chrome garnish as in the brochure...look at the real car and its is UGLY. The interior is soooo boring and dull and if u tot it has good built quality think again,those buttons and clicks aren't that high end,nuff said....well of coz its better than most japs car... And its a different category too,if want to compare,bring up another 2 door,then we talking...Dun say those add 10k get this add 10k get that rubbish...who doesn't know But but but... It smoke a CRZ for breakfast... |
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Dec 27 2011, 01:30 PM) haha...ivtec but 12 and 16v operation.. it u old city's VTEC la.. if you wanna learn on CR-Z and the engine here is the sourcewei...wake up la bro...bangun bangun the insight and crz uses IVTEC la..variable valve timing on the INTAKE only. Watch out CIVICS, ALTIS, LANCER, INSPIRA, honda insight is coming to smoke u, HONDA, the power of dreams http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/CR-Z/index.html it is actually a VTEC 12-16 valve switch operation where low RPM one of the valve is de-activated then you say this is OLD vtec.. haha Harlow!!! since when VTEC got NEW and OLD VTEC stand for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) this is technology and what T brand have is a VTEC without Lift technology... and the i so called Intelligent is actually in Honda stand for Electronic Control... now in i-VTEC honda the i is actually ECU VTEC switching instead if Hydraulic pressure switching. but in This CR-Z case the i stand for Engine fuel cut off operation where the engine can turn it self off similar to Honda Accord 3.5l i-VTEC VCM operation and this CR-Z engine is actually the improve version of L15A VTEC engine.... Added on December 27, 2011, 2:24 pmhttp://www.honda.co.nz/cars/crz/tech/engine/ivtec-vtc Another article that show how CR-Z ivtec come into play now be a good boy go home and do your HOMEWORK before you post another stu*id comment!!! This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Dec 27 2011, 02:29 PM |
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Dec 27 2011, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 02:20 PM) if you wanna learn on CR-Z and the engine here is the source Wow! Cool information!http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/CR-Z/index.html it is actually a VTEC 12-16 valve switch operation where low RPM one of the valve is de-activated then you say this is OLD vtec.. haha Harlow!!! since when VTEC got NEW and OLD VTEC stand for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) this is technology and what T brand have is a VTEC without Lift technology... and the i so called Intelligent is actually in Honda stand for Electronic Control... now in i-VTEC honda the i is actually ECU VTEC switching instead if Hydraulic pressure switching. but in This CR-Z case the i stand for Engine fuel cut off operation where the engine can turn it self off similar to Honda Accord 3.5l i-VTEC VCM operation and this CR-Z engine is actually the improve version of L15A VTEC engine.... Added on December 27, 2011, 2:24 pmhttp://www.honda.co.nz/cars/crz/tech/engine/ivtec-vtc Another article that show how CR-Z ivtec come into play now be a good boy go home and do your HOMEWORK before you post another stu*id comment!!! But but but... cheap low end polo still eat CRZ for breakfast... |
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Dec 27 2011, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 02:50 PM) Of course a Polo will eat the CR-Z for breakfast. But if you're driving to downtown KL at peak hours, with 1/8 of a tank left, the CR-Z will leave you in the dust once you run out of petrol.It's a hybrid. They try to market it as a sports car, but in the end, it's still a hybrid, and has to live with the limitations of a hybrid (weight, power, etc.). Doesn't mean it has no purpose though, it's just slow. Will be economical to run when it comes to petrol. That's about it... This post has been edited by dothackRAVE: Dec 27 2011, 02:56 PM |
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Dec 27 2011, 03:04 PM
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Crz have a very high end torque... you can feel the G-force when accelerating... not a Hard kick light those Turbo kakis.... so you dont just compare a car with just Horse power... there is Torque and Power over Weight...
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Dec 27 2011, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Dec 27 2011, 02:55 PM) Of course a Polo will eat the CR-Z for breakfast. But if you're driving to downtown KL at peak hours, with 1/8 of a tank left, the CR-Z will leave you in the dust once you run out of petrol. But but but... KL downtown sure got many petrol station, cannot just go to any petrol station to pump?It's a hybrid. They try to market it as a sports car, but in the end, it's still a hybrid, and has to live with the limitations of a hybrid (weight, power, etc.). Doesn't mean it has no purpose though, it's just slow. Will be economical to run when it comes to petrol. That's about it... You are taking the senario as polo has only 1/8 of a tank. If you take the senario as in CRZ has only 1/8 of the battery power, lagi dangerous weih. Low power = use more fuel. The underpowered 1.5l with low battery power will use more fuel to push the heavy CRZ. Macam lagi cost ineffective lol! This means a polo with 1/8 of a tank = still can provide max power needed. But a CRZ with 1/8 of battery power, IMA become weak, have to rely on 1.5l petrol engine = lagi no power loh. Please correct if my common sense is stupid. |
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Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM
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on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously
DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO... |
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Dec 27 2011, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM) on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously First of all, it is not small. It is heavier than your regular Vios, which is 4 doors, 5 seats and a boot. Power is relative but with looks like that and not making 0-100 in 6 seconds, it is underpowered. DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO... Having a CRZ looking like that and a hybrid is like going out with a supermodel who is doesn't want to sleep with you because she thinks that you are gay. That is as bad as a bad analogy goes... |
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Dec 27 2011, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 03:22 PM) First of all, it is not small. It is heavier than your regular Vios, which is 4 doors, 5 seats and a boot. Power is relative but with looks like that and not making 0-100 in 6 seconds, it is underpowered. Having a CRZ looking like that and a hybrid is like going out with a supermodel who is doesn't want to sleep with you because she thinks that you are gay. That is as bad as a bad analogy goes... |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM) on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously Between we are talking about POLO GTI or POLO ???? Polo GTI 1.4 tsi Polo 1.2. If CR-Z is running low on electric the 1.5l engine is confirmed to suck more petrol than a normal polo 1.2.DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO... |
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Dec 27 2011, 03:30 PM
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Dec 27 2011, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:30 PM) Means you are talking about Polo 1.2 TSI den ==Polo 1.2 TSI 4 door - 109k Polo GTI 1.4 TSI 2 Door - 140k (around there) get yours specs right lea == Added on December 27, 2011, 3:46 pm QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM) on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously Answering back to your answer about the reviews .... Review are just for reference .... I drove before Polo and Ford Fiesta .... to tell u the truth Ford Fiesta is an Upgraded Myvii just the engine lolx. The interior is as dull as myvii, dam the dashboard is like crap if I remember correctly. Polo has a smaller but powerful engine, you can check fiesta spec http://www.ford.net.my/fiesta/specs_features.asp. DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO... Polo 1.2 spec (Polo from 108k went up to 110k ++) http://my.volkswagen.com/vwcms/master_publ...nical_data.html Polo GTI 1.4 Spec http://my.volkswagen.com/vwcms/master_publ...nical_data.html Anyhow I look at it ... Polo has a better interior design than Ford Fiesta .... Ford Fiesta is just a so call exclusive Myvii .... I tested both of them =D and also alot of car price ranging from 70k - 140k == just that now CR-Z just came up I will find a day to test drive and let you know what I think about that car =D. Oh yah the part you said its ugly and boring right ... I had that same feel but once I drove it shyt its a fun to drive car with a not so appealing body. =D This post has been edited by EvoSiewPao: Dec 27 2011, 03:50 PM |
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Polo 1.2 TSI is within that price range.
1.2l TSI is so much more powerful than 1.5l with IMA. No need test drive, any human with decent brain can figure it out. I only compare the performance, not the outlook. The very super beautiful sporty look CRZ kena smoked by 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior, best tak? |
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Dec 27 2011, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 03:55 PM) Polo 1.2 TSI is within that price range. Best Bro =D, test drive for sheer joy and to tutup their mulut say never test drive before >.>.1.2l TSI is so much more powerful than 1.5l with IMA. No need test drive, any human with decent brain can figure it out. I only compare the performance, not the outlook. The very super beautiful sporty look CRZ kena smoked by 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior, best tak? |
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clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol.
the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol |
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Dec 27 2011, 04:31 PM
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all wanna be keyboard heroes ma.... so let them be lor.... to the honda fanboys... CRZ is a MUST... to the vw fan boys...SUPPORT POLO... the rest who owns neither... stand aside and enjoy the show... let the pissing begins!!
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Dec 27 2011, 04:32 PM
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How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!!
you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!! Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!! I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that 1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers 2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!! It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!! you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD... you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!! |
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Dec 27 2011, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Dec 27 2011, 04:19 PM) clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol. hey, try youtube for crz review from topgear and fifth gear, very cool car. the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol |
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Dec 27 2011, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:32 PM) How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!! Bro.. does CRZ comes with ABS as well? Then you better double check if the brake disc have ceramic/carbon mixed in it.. otherwise liek you say the ABS will cause the brake disc to warp... you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!! Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!! I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that 1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers 2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!! It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!! you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD... you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!! Sure expensive to change |
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Dec 27 2011, 04:39 PM
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Yes the review all shown positive feedback and I'm actually surprise people that have no idea what is this car talk cr*p on it!!! look at the review all shown very positive and THEY drive it some even DRIFT it and some jokers come in and say it is under power , etc etc etc....
Look if you want to comment on a product at least have the courtesy of experience it 1st first hand... then lets talk.... |
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Dec 27 2011, 04:41 PM
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Adui i thought I'm in Polo thread...got real CRZ owner here to provide some review ah?
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:32 PM) How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!! LoL you watch youtube for topgear review and 5th gear review of ford fiesta ma .... I just tell you wad my experience on the car only lea ==. Polo is faster than Ford Fiesta and it has a better interior design, I dunno why TopGear review ford fiesta is better. You have to know TopGear is abit racist and they will only say how good an aston martin is but never say how bad it is .... because Aston is a Britain car ==. So from here you might need to think that TopGear is actually biased towards German car =D just saying bro and yes I did test drive both of the car .... the spec sheet is for your reference since u trust reviews so much and can't get the facts right for 1.2 and 1.4 polo differences =D U didnt google them either so where did you get a 1.4 TSI Polo with 4 door hahahax =Dyou tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!! Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!! I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that 1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers 2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!! It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!! you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD... you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!! Now my question is did you ever test drive a polo/Ford Fiesta? =D This post has been edited by EvoSiewPao: Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM |
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 27 2011, 04:38 PM) Bro.. does CRZ comes with ABS as well? Then you better double check if the brake disc have ceramic/carbon mixed in it.. otherwise liek you say the ABS will cause the brake disc to warp... Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken)Sure expensive to change it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!! yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice... |
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Dec 27 2011, 04:19 PM) clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol. But but but... a turbo in a kancil memang overpower woh. Nanti the kancil vibrate to hell and betul betul terbang oh!the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol Sometimes something no need to test also know which is more powerful... AMD bullzoder vs Intel Celeron, do u need to test to see which is more faster? Polo might be fugly in ur eye, or it might be inferior in ur mind, but it is definitely more powerful than a CRZ. Are you or the sinkalingam + lingam said Polo is not more powerful than a CRZ? |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM) Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken) ??? So you dont even know about the car.it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!! yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice... Are you saying the POLO is not more powerful than CRZ? I just need u to answer this. |
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QUOTE(EvoSiewPao @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM) LoL you watch youtube for topgear review and 5th gear review of ford fiesta ma .... I just tell you wad my experience on the car only lea ==. Polo is faster than Ford Fiesta and it has a better interior design, I dunno why TopGear review ford fiesta is better. You have to know TopGear is abit racist and they will only say how good an aston martin is but never say how bad it is .... because Aston is a Britain car ==. So from here you might need to think that TopGear is actually biased towards German car =D just saying bro and yes I did test drive both of the car .... the spec sheet is for your reference since u trust reviews so much and can't get the facts right for 1.2 and 1.4 polo differences =D U didnt google them either so where did you get a 1.4 TSI Polo with 4 door hahahax =D Yep I did... nearly bought a Fiesta Sport for my self but that sales man cannot give me a good resale value for my car... I test drive Fiesta 3 times 2 sport and 1 sedan (sedan cause my sis is interested)Now my question is did you ever test drive a polo/Ford Fiesta? =D on the Polo I did not test drive Polo 1.4 cause I do not prefer 2 door... I did drove the Polo 1.2 but dont like it cause interior kinda dull (personal taste here) some how I prefer Fiesta interior but I agree plastiky!!! the dashboard is hard plastic not like Polo... Polo is more quiet more of a conti feel to it... but at that time my aim was with Honda Insight cause it offer bigger boot space and they some how manage to get me a very good value for my car that I need to let go... I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2... on CRz I test drive it last week when I send my Insight to service... It is a very small car more of a 2 person car and 2 dog for back seat (not for any human) it is fast the acceleration is superb!!! apart from Manual shift I found this car very well balance and powerfull... but like all Honda the ride is kinda on the hard side and like all Honda as well you dont get much of a luxury feel (conti feel or those solid toyota feel) but you feel cheeky and fun!!! |
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Dec 27 2011, 04:58 PM
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I am extremly confused here...Which Polo spec is Pip comparing to CRZ?
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Dec 27 2011, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 04:48 PM) ??? So you dont even know about the car. untill now you still dont know it!!!Are you saying the POLO is not more powerful than CRZ? I just need u to answer this. if you want a POWERFULL CAR go get a KANCIL TURBO... it can potong any POLO tsi GTi hahaha!!! all you people like you say POWERFULL here and POWERFULL there.... then what do you define by POWERFULL here... Powerfull by the figure of Horse Power (PS) rating??? Torque??? Handling...??? WHAT?? if you want to argue for the sake of argument then stop wasting time... I have forgot how many god damn airbag CRz have... all I know it have 2 Airbag on A pillars (1 on each side) the standard Passenger and Driver airbag... I cannot remember got Side airbag or not... that why I say 6 Airbag with reservations.... hahaha |
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Dec 27 2011, 04:59 PM
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You dont even answer my big question.
QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM) Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken) Oh fucuk you are the same guy who posted rubbish before.it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!! yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice... So again, I think u pelan chaio pun tatau punya, mari sini cakap gugu saja. Also, your favourite Top Gear said the Honda Insight: "Clever but pointless. Like teaching your dog to skateboard." To me it means: "Dogs also duwan to drive 9 this so high car" http://www.topgear.com/uk/honda/insight/verdict More on Top Gear: QUOTE If your friends know nothing about cars and laboriously unplug their telly each night instead of leaving it on standby, they'll think you're cool. But do such folk have any real concept of cool? And if they did, would they admit to it? Maybe gadget-fiend mates would be impressed by the flashing lights of the Honda's dash. This post has been edited by Pip_X: Dec 27 2011, 05:00 PM |
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Dec 27 2011, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:54 PM) Yep I did... nearly bought a Fiesta Sport for my self but that sales man cannot give me a good resale value for my car... I test drive Fiesta 3 times 2 sport and 1 sedan (sedan cause my sis is interested) LoL should have compared it with ford fiesta =D for me I don't think its worth buying Ford Fiesta because its kinda like an overrated myvii. (my opinion =D) on the Polo I did not test drive Polo 1.4 cause I do not prefer 2 door... I did drove the Polo 1.2 but dont like it cause interior kinda dull (personal taste here) some how I prefer Fiesta interior but I agree plastiky!!! the dashboard is hard plastic not like Polo... Polo is more quiet more of a conti feel to it... but at that time my aim was with Honda Insight cause it offer bigger boot space and they some how manage to get me a very good value for my car that I need to let go... I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2... on CRz I test drive it last week when I send my Insight to service... It is a very small car more of a 2 person car and 2 dog for back seat (not for any human) it is fast the acceleration is superb!!! apart from Manual shift I found this car very well balance and powerfull... but like all Honda the ride is kinda on the hard side and like all Honda as well you dont get much of a luxury feel (conti feel or those solid toyota feel) but you feel cheeky and fun!!! You should have tried test driving a polo 1.2 TSI because its also a fun to drive car =D. Yes have to agree that VW gives you more of a conti feel while honda gives you a more sporty feel. Different people different preferences~ will find some time to look into CR-Z This post has been edited by EvoSiewPao: Dec 27 2011, 05:05 PM |
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Dec 27 2011, 05:03 PM
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Please state what wrong with that statement...
also what wrong a car that telling you how to save fuel... if you say it is stupid then all BMW are equally stupid of VW as well as all new cars come equipped with a trip computer that tell you how efficient you drive.... oh my!!! |
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Dec 27 2011, 05:03 PM
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uuuuuhh kayyy....I'm gonna leave this derailed thread for now until someone post something that made some sense & relevant....
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Dec 27 2011, 05:08 PM
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damn, my pop corn is finished!
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Dec 27 2011, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(EvoSiewPao @ Dec 27 2011, 05:03 PM) LoL should have compared it with ford fiesta =D for me I don't think its worth buy Ford Fiesta because its kinda like an overrated myvii. (my opinion =D) Since you have driven this 2 car... you must try a CRz then you will know what I was trying to tell...You should have tried test driving a polo 1.2 TSI because its also a fun to drive car =D. Yes have to agree that VW gives you more of a conti feel while honda gives you a more sporty feel. Different people different preferences~ will find some time to look into CR-Z Some mindless self centered people only see things so narrow that they started to ignore things... heck they can even tell me Kancil can tapau ferrari... oh my!!! I always think Just Horse power and Torque does not made a car more POWERFULL or better.. it is a combination of things I always like Ford Fiesta although you say it is a BIG mivy haha (agree) cause the dashboard material and build really myvi quality... (hard plastic and silver painted middle dials-my god not even chrome) and overall I do not say POLO is sucx I like Polo but as I said not my cup of tea... I do not condemn polo or Fiesta to me they are equally good.... but since this is CRz thread I believe people should get the true picture... |
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Dec 27 2011, 05:22 PM
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haiya... some ppl like the car ma praise kau kau lo.
some1 who doesnt ma talk shit on it lo. why so offensive? its just a forum, we just talk about cars. not flaming others who doesnt have the same opinion... anyway, today i met a guy who was upgrading his 16" crz to 17" in a tire shop. we chat for abit, it is proven this car handling & performance is actually quite ok. but compromises with low practicality. well hes a single guy so literally crz suits him. but talk about the look, its quite unique. i believe most youngster will like it, but prolly not the old timers. not to say its bad but it just isnt the classical sporty & elegant look like a aston vantage, haha. but it still a charming car in many ways. |
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Dec 27 2011, 05:35 PM
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and some chap tole me that Honda Insight is so under power it cannot go up Genting hahaha so funny.....
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Dec 27 2011, 05:38 PM
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need to refill mah popkorn
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Dec 27 2011, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 05:09 PM) Since you have driven this 2 car... you must try a CRz then you will know what I was trying to tell... Have you driven the original B16A CR-X which this CR-Z is suppose to spiritually replace? If you have not, then you do not understand why so many is opposed to the CR-Z. The previous CR-X weighs in less than 1000kg coupled with a 150hp B16A and it carries the name Sports Coupe. This new CR-Z is just a coupe.. it does not deserve the name Sports or Hot..Some mindless self centered people only see things so narrow that they started to ignore things... heck they can even tell me Kancil can tapau ferrari... oh my!!! I always think Just Horse power and Torque does not made a car more POWERFULL or better.. it is a combination of things I always like Ford Fiesta although you say it is a BIG mivy haha (agree) cause the dashboard material and build really myvi quality... (hard plastic and silver painted middle dials-my god not even chrome) and overall I do not say POLO is sucx I like Polo but as I said not my cup of tea... I do not condemn polo or Fiesta to me they are equally good.... but since this is CRz thread I believe people should get the true picture... As I have mentioned before it does not have the power to match it looks. No doubt this car looks great but with such aggressive styling, it better have something to show under the bonnet. Just like the new Toyota GT86. Instead of keeping to the paltry 1.6 engine that the old AE86 had, they put in a 200hp engine from Subaru. A hot coupe must have a hot engine to keep up, otherwise hot looks alone is not enough. What this CR-Z needs is at least, minimum, the engine from the Civic Type-R. With 222hp and manual gearbox, it would be a very sweet car. That was what car enthusiast all around the world was expecting.. not some hybrid crap. At least Toyota/Subaru is doing it right with the GT86/RBZ. |
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Dec 27 2011, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 05:45 PM) Have you driven the original B16A CR-X which this CR-Z is suppose to spiritually replace? If you have not, then you do not understand why so many is opposed to the CR-Z. The previous CR-X weighs in less than 1000kg coupled with a 150hp B16A and it carries the name Sports Coupe. This new CR-Z is just a coupe.. it does not deserve the name Sports or Hot.. That's the crux of the issue.. CRX was a legend.. at 900+ KG the handling was superb and the power to weight ratio lovely.As I have mentioned before it does not have the power to match it looks. No doubt this car looks great but with such aggressive styling, it better have something to show under the bonnet. Just like the new Toyota GT86. Instead of keeping to the paltry 1.6 engine that the old AE86 had, they put in a 200hp engine from Subaru. A hot coupe must have a hot engine to keep up, otherwise hot looks alone is not enough. What this CR-Z needs is at least, minimum, the engine from the Civic Type-R. With 222hp and manual gearbox, it would be a very sweet car. That was what car enthusiast all around the world was expecting.. not some hybrid crap. At least Toyota/Subaru is doing it right with the GT86/RBZ. This replacement is like announcing a new Toyota Celica and give us a Hilux equivalent... Edit : although I must admit the car look sexy... if the pricing was equivalent to Insight (just liek US/Europe market), then I would have bought it despite the dissapointing performance... This post has been edited by MeToo: Dec 27 2011, 05:52 PM |
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Dec 27 2011, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 27 2011, 05:49 PM) That's the crux of the issue.. CRX was a legend.. at 900+ KG the handling was superb and the power to weight ratio lovely. Don't you know the Malaysian style in pricing. Anything with less doors and seats cost more. Just like the VW Scirocco where only in Malaysia it is sold at a higher price than the Golf GTi. It is suppose to be a cheaper car than the VW Golf GTi. This replacement is like announcing a new Toyota Celica and give us a Hilux equivalent... Edit : although I must admit the car look sexy... if the pricing was equivalent to Insight (just liek US/Europe market), then I would have bought it despite the dissapointing performance... The CRX was a damn legend... they should have continued the alphabet and called this model the HONDA CR-Y. That is what we all did when we heard what they planned to do with it. |
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So uh..., to add fuel to the fire...
Volkswagen Polo 1.2 TSI 1/4 Mile ET: 17.5, assuming flywheel horsepower = 103.563HP and curb weight = 2482lbs Honda CR-Z 1/4 Mile ET: *17.26*, assuming flywheel horsepower = 122.303HP and curb weight = 2720lbs I wouldn't say the CR-Z smokes the Polo, but it IS faster over 1/4 of a mile. Mathematically, the CR-Z will walk the Polo. Calculator I used: http://robrobinette.com/et.htm This post has been edited by dothackRAVE: Dec 27 2011, 07:03 PM |
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 05:45 PM) yes, agree with u.but i cant keep silent anymore cause some fucuker keep mention hai-bird very powerful wo..... i am not saying that hai-bird is not a good power train system, for petrol saving yes... for power up in such nice looking car in CRZ? nooooooooooo...... and the fucuker keep mention new car equip with brake disc that made of carbon and ceramic??? walao, u think your insect are those R8 level supercar ah???? which manufacturer give u carbon ceramic brake disc in 100k range vehicle?? u drive hai-bird until mind fucuk?? i used to quite ok with hybird vehicle , because it drive in city look like a trend car... now because of u this blind supporter , i call it hai-bird instead of hybird. because of u , make me very hate hai-bird vehicle now..... somemore u mention got ABS will easily cause your brake disc warp? fucucucucucucucuk you.... do you even know what is ABS? full name Anti Brake-locking System. it help you release the brake to prevent your wheel locking during emergency/hard braking. please study more about ABS, cannot imagine this comment come from a 3x man..... i 1x YO also know better than you..... if you don know the thing please don go other people thread and comment base on your so high knowledge, u ruining the next generation. please continue hide in your haibird thread. This post has been edited by nzh0920: Dec 27 2011, 07:36 PM |
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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Dec 27 2011, 07:02 PM) So uh..., to add fuel to the fire... this is so so so not accurate.Volkswagen Polo 1.2 TSI 1/4 Mile ET: 17.5, assuming flywheel horsepower = 103.563HP and curb weight = 2482lbs Honda CR-Z 1/4 Mile ET: *17.26*, assuming flywheel horsepower = 122.303HP and curb weight = 2720lbs I wouldn't say the CR-Z smokes the Polo, but it IS faster over 1/4 of a mile. Mathematically, the CR-Z will walk the Polo. Calculator I used: http://robrobinette.com/et.htm DSG for one shifts very fast manual is operator dependent. so many variables. |
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Dec 27 2011, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 27 2011, 07:34 PM) yes, agree with u. Do try to have a proper discussion without insulting anybody. Before you insult anybody for not knowing all the facts, please do ensure that you know them yourself. but i cant keep silent anymore cause some fucuker keep mention hai-bird very powerful wo..... i am not saying that hai-bird is not a good power train system, for petrol saving yes... for power up in such nice looking car in CRZ? nooooooooooo...... and the fucuker keep mention new car equip with brake disc that made of carbon and ceramic??? walao, u think your insect are those R8 level supercar ah???? which manufacturer give u carbon ceramic brake disc in 100k range vehicle?? u drive hai-bird until mind fucuk?? i used to quite ok with hybird vehicle , because it drive in city look like a trend car... now because of u this blind supporter , i call it hai-bird instead of hybird. because of u , make me very hate hai-bird vehicle now..... somemore u mention got ABS will easily cause your brake disc warp? fucucucucucucucuk you.... do you even know what is ABS? full name Anti Brake-locking System. it help you release the brake to prevent your wheel locking during emergency/hard braking. please study more about ABS, cannot imagine this comment come from a 3x man..... i 1x YO also know better than you..... if you don know the thing please don go other people thread and comment base on your so high knowledge, u ruining the next generation. please continue hide in your haibird thread. ABS stands for Anti-lock Braking System. |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:54 PM) Yep I did... nearly bought a Fiesta Sport for my self but that sales man cannot give me a good resale value for my car... I test drive Fiesta 3 times 2 sport and 1 sedan (sedan cause my sis is interested) on the Polo I did not test drive Polo 1.4 cause I do not prefer 2 door... I did drove the Polo 1.2 but dont like it cause interior kinda dull (personal taste here) some how I prefer Fiesta interior but I agree plastiky!!! the dashboard is hard plastic not like Polo... Polo is more quiet more of a conti feel to it... but at that time my aim was with Honda Insight cause it offer bigger boot space and they some how manage to get me a very good value for my car that I need to let go... I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2... on CRz I test drive it last week when I send my Insight to service... It is a very small car more of a 2 person car and 2 dog for back seat (not for any human) it is fast the acceleration is superb!!! apart from Manual shift I found this car very well balance and powerfull... but like all Honda the ride is kinda on the hard side and like all Honda as well you dont get much of a luxury feel (conti feel or those solid toyota feel) but you feel cheeky and fun!!! |
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 10:35 PM) Do try to have a proper discussion without insulting anybody. Before you insult anybody for not knowing all the facts, please do ensure that you know them yourself. ok , i stated wrongly for the name.... sorry....ABS stands for Anti-lock Braking System. but i not mean to personal attack him, but just tired of watching him misleading other people. somemore said mixture of carbon and ceramic easy warp. but the purpose of mix with carbon and ceramic are designed to more durable during extreme heat condition 900c+. calvin please read this and don misleading other people anymore!!! |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:54 PM) I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2... |
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saw one exiting from curve turn out to ldp. it looks OK. the back takes some getting used to.
Overall for a sports hybrid - it looks awesome...but generally speaking.it should be called a hybrid sports car ( coz it is a hybrid car in a sports body). I dont think this car is fast..coz by the looks on sheet...its practical 2 seater...but like all 2 seater, it has to go minimum 0-100 kmh in 8 sec. |
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 28 2011, 01:11 AM) ok , i stated wrongly for the name.... sorry.... What do you mean?but i not mean to personal attack him, but just tired of watching him misleading other people. somemore said mixture of carbon and ceramic easy warp. but the purpose of mix with carbon and ceramic are designed to more durable during extreme heat condition 900c+. calvin please read this and don misleading other people anymore!!! Are you saying Honda Insight does not come with carbon reinforced ceramic composite brake disc/pads?! I thought for sure Calvin_Ng say it does wor. I was so excited thinking such a nice brake set... was goign to look for Insight halfcut to swap their brakes too |
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Popcorn habis... Show seems to go on forever... One word of advice to calvin, pip, evo and those who love to argue on the net ... I love this quote btw... Here it goes.. No offense to those who are physically challenged though... ' arguing on the net is like winning the paraLympic... Even if u win, u are still retarded' happy new year all... Lol
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I find your post f**king annoying to read. Please spoiler your entire post. This post has been edited by kelvinftg: Dec 28 2011, 09:31 AM |
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 28 2011, 01:11 AM) ok , i stated wrongly for the name.... sorry.... Please state misleading...but i not mean to personal attack him, but just tired of watching him misleading other people. somemore said mixture of carbon and ceramic easy warp. but the purpose of mix with carbon and ceramic are designed to more durable during extreme heat condition 900c+. calvin please read this and don misleading other people anymore!!! no 1. You agree the current generation disc rotor is softer due to the mixture of metal... it do contain carbon and mixture the % of it no one knows (only manufacturer) of course according to your statement any mixture of carbon = to Disc Rotor made for Porsche or Nissan GTR standard.... there are many grades even Brake pads have many grade and sizes do get the fact rights.... no2. Yes the mixture of carbon into steel increase or improve the breaking condition I agree but that does not mean no wear and tear.... any friction generate heat and wear... do get that right too... no3. Hybrid is a new technology not many people can accept, People resist to changes and this is not new... when Honda decided to stop the B16 series of Engine Honda Face alot of criticism and when K series engine was developed people complaint that engine is sucks cause Hp to Hp vs B16 is a JOKE... but K series engine proven it self that is because K series engine now focus on Balance between Torque and HP... the old B16 is purely Horse Power... Yes Honda on previous CEO/MD change their direction for Hybrid technology as Euro market the EURO5/6/7/8 etc... more and more is getting more strict on CO2 emission... thats the main reason why Honda stop develop the NSX-R replacement (which is now back on track yay!!!) and Honda stop alot of Performance car.... (heck they even stop F1 dammit) so since the NEW MD/CEO of honda come into play he himself commit to fans the Type-R will make a come back... lets hope there is new exciting to come... Added on December 28, 2011, 9:56 amAgree with bafukie no point arguing... BTW... if you for the sake of argument... get it right... all the facts has been supported by Technical crew of Honda... I used to work for Honda and I ask them cause my Honda city disc wrapped as well and this is the answer I get from them... This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Dec 28 2011, 09:56 AM |
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Dec 28 2011, 09:04 AM) Popcorn habis... Show seems to go on forever... One word of advice to calvin, pip, evo and those who love to argue on the net ... I love this quote btw... Here it goes.. No offense to those who are physically challenged though... ' arguing on the net is like winning the paraLympic... Even if u win, u are still retarded' happy new year all... Lol That's why I stopped posting since few posts ago...I duwan to bring myself to same low as the retarded here. |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 28 2011, 09:51 AM) Please state misleading... no 1. You agree the current generation disc rotor is softer due to the mixture of metal... it do contain carbon and mixture the % of it no one knows (only manufacturer) of course according to your statement any mixture of carbon = to Disc Rotor made for Porsche or Nissan GTR standard.... there are many grades even Brake pads have many grade and sizes do get the fact rights.... no2. Yes the mixture of carbon into steel increase or improve the breaking condition I agree but that does not mean no wear and tear.... any friction generate heat and wear... do get that right too... no3. Hybrid is a new technology not many people can accept, People resist to changes and this is not new... when Honda decided to stop the B16 series of Engine Honda Face alot of criticism and when K series engine was developed people complaint that engine is sucks cause Hp to Hp vs B16 is a JOKE... but K series engine proven it self that is because K series engine now focus on Balance between Torque and HP... the old B16 is purely Horse Power... Yes Honda on previous CEO/MD change their direction for Hybrid technology as Euro market the EURO5/6/7/8 etc... more and more is getting more strict on CO2 emission... thats the main reason why Honda stop develop the NSX-R replacement (which is now back on track yay!!!) and Honda stop alot of Performance car.... (heck they even stop F1 dammit) so since the NEW MD/CEO of honda come into play he himself commit to fans the Type-R will make a come back... lets hope there is new exciting to come... Added on December 28, 2011, 9:56 amAgree with bafukie no point arguing... BTW... if you for the sake of argument... get it right... all the facts has been supported by Technical crew of Honda... I used to work for Honda and I ask them cause my Honda city disc wrapped as well and this is the answer I get from them... I think this video is misleading .. it says REGULAR cast iron disc brakes wear out quickily (compare to ceramic + carbon disc) .. like wat you told us ceramic + carbon mixture will wear out faster .. i think they shd remove it from youtube to make sure they dun mislead ppl with those info This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Dec 28 2011, 11:09 AM |
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Dec 28 2011, 09:04 AM) Popcorn habis... Show seems to go on forever... One word of advice to calvin, pip, evo and those who love to argue on the net ... I love this quote btw... Here it goes.. No offense to those who are physically challenged though... ' arguing on the net is like winning the paraLympic... Even if u win, u are still retarded' happy new year all... Lol if they debate we can learn something, no?otherwise the forum is like.....er....dead? of cos no name calling, IQ insulting kind of statement. |
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QUOTE(kelvinftg @ Dec 28 2011, 09:30 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I find your post f**king annoying to read. Please spoiler your entire post. QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 28 2011, 09:51 AM) Please state misleading... no1, why did u said i agree current generation disc rotor is softer?? where i state it??no 1. You agree the current generation disc rotor is softer due to the mixture of metal... it do contain carbon and mixture the % of it no one knows (only manufacturer) of course according to your statement any mixture of carbon = to Disc Rotor made for Porsche or Nissan GTR standard.... there are many grades even Brake pads have many grade and sizes do get the fact rights.... no2. Yes the mixture of carbon into steel increase or improve the breaking condition I agree but that does not mean no wear and tear.... any friction generate heat and wear... do get that right too... no3. Hybrid is a new technology not many people can accept, People resist to changes and this is not new... when Honda decided to stop the B16 series of Engine Honda Face alot of criticism and when K series engine was developed people complaint that engine is sucks cause Hp to Hp vs B16 is a JOKE... but K series engine proven it self that is because K series engine now focus on Balance between Torque and HP... the old B16 is purely Horse Power... Yes Honda on previous CEO/MD change their direction for Hybrid technology as Euro market the EURO5/6/7/8 etc... more and more is getting more strict on CO2 emission... thats the main reason why Honda stop develop the NSX-R replacement (which is now back on track yay!!!) and Honda stop alot of Performance car.... (heck they even stop F1 dammit) so since the NEW MD/CEO of honda come into play he himself commit to fans the Type-R will make a come back... lets hope there is new exciting to come... Added on December 28, 2011, 9:56 amAgree with bafukie no point arguing... BTW... if you for the sake of argument... get it right... all the facts has been supported by Technical crew of Honda... I used to work for Honda and I ask them cause my Honda city disc wrapped as well and this is the answer I get from them... no2, mixture of carbon and ceremic into steel not only improve stopping power, it designed to last longer and not easy warp during those 24 hours Le Mans race etc.... those brake disc easily up to 900c+ of cause it got tear and wear when come with friction. no3. i have no hard feeling to haibird.... some how got a bit love it. but it was your pelan chaio comment make me hate hai bird , IT WAS YOU!!! the THEM that u mention are you means some SKL mechanic or what?? if u show some technical data about city brake disc made with carbon and ceramic material i will keep my mouth shut. |
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 28 2011, 11:37 AM) if they debate we can learn something, no? Goodness they are not debating anyway.. Debate is when u back ur argument up with facts and figures... Not hearsay which we Malaysian love to do.... Always... I heard my fren said, my dad said, my grandma said.... Tak main la mcm itu... Also PERSONAL experience counts... Not YouTube, not my fren not my ah ma... To simply bash without even personally test the car is like telling someone I sat and drive the cars in my dream... Anyway.... Opinions are like ass, everyone have one and most of the time it's full of shit..... Again.... Happy new year everybody... otherwise the forum is like.....er....dead? of cos no name calling, IQ insulting kind of statement. |
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we always login this forum digging into the threads we like hoping to see more info about cars,
but i was let down by almost 3 pages of trolling & pointless arguement in this crz thread. there are hundreds or thousands of ppl who are passionate in the car come here to share thier interest, we are not here to spend precious time reading all your childish act. no wonder all the hardcore car enthusiasts leave lyn to join zerotohundred. all we left here are mostly kids trashing in /k/ or gaming forum and come to F&F talk about cars acting like they know it all. well, stop talking about advance tech like ceramic brakes, i bet 99% of those who talk like a pro cant even tell the fondamental stuff like what differ between brake fluid dot3, 4, and 5 without googling. enuf said This post has been edited by yamato: Dec 28 2011, 05:00 PM |
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QUOTE(yamato @ Dec 28 2011, 04:56 PM) we always login this forum digging into the threads we like hoping to see more info about cars, i dunno man...i find these kind of thread entertaining. almost /k like excitement.but i was let down by almost 3 pages of trolling & pointless arguement in this crz thread. there are hundreds or thousands of ppl who are passionate in the car come here to share thier interest, we are not here to spend precious time reading all your childish act. no wonder all the hardcore car enthusiasts leave lyn to join zerotohundred. all we left here are mostly kids trashing in /k/ or gaming forum and come to F&F talk about cars acting like they know it all. well, stop talking about advance tech like ceramic brakes, i bet 99% of those who talk like a pro cant even tell the fondamental stuff like what differ between brake fluid dot3, 4, and 5 without googling. enuf said ![]() |
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Can crz win fd2? ( Starting another debate )
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1.3 ima already smoked altis.
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Then who willing to take his 1.3 ima to test out with my FD ?
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But the rules is we must open up the bonnet and test run.
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i wonder who among you debate kakis are actual owners or so to be owners?
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I like this review on CRZ:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3GpcB_g0I&feature=related In the end, bicycle rocks... |
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LoL == emm CR-Z is 6-MT rite??? My fren shared this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5y4OkOx2E&feature=share
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QUOTE(EvoSiewPao @ Dec 29 2011, 10:49 AM) LoL == emm CR-Z is 6-MT rite??? My fren shared this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5y4OkOx2E&feature=share stop using the youtube as example ... ppl already tested the car... insights is 2.0 dvvt power..about 5 different spec ECO Cars ..... end up ..... =D go watch ..... CR-Z is not as fast as they said .... |
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the CRZ drive sucks This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Dec 29 2011, 11:09 AM |
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i wonder if it is still worthwhile sharing opinion in this thread after all these bashing...
anyway, test drove the car, being a candidate together with the Polo 1.2 TSI to replace the boring MPV i drive to work day in & out. Main consideration is the price of 110k range that I can afford and fuel saving. CR-Z definitely a nice looking car. I've come to like the design a lot. Interior looks good with a good strike of balance. Polo 1.2 TSI pales in the sense the dial is boring. The car gives a firm driving feel. while enough for city driving, it leaves people wanting more power from a supposed sporty hot-hatch like this. The sports mode's throttle respond, to me, feels a bit fake. You get the added throttle respond sound with more fuel fed in I guess, but the car doesn't accelerate as fast as it sounds =_= anyway, generally I think there is some point to like the CR-Z with its current price point, practicallity aside. Of course I would have like it to be priced nearer to insight or maybe RM105k would be good. But if it wasn't for the hybrid with the tax cut, at a higher price point, I want my usual Honda Type R feed from this car! else its nothing but failure |
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jc' racing coming out with CR-Z supercharger project car.
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Dec 29 2011, 03:59 PM) i think because calvin_ng says his car as powerful as altis 2.0 DVVT only Renee ask for a test run with his FD ..Added on December 29, 2011, 4:03 pm QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 10:05 AM) It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau.... In case u miss that the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock) I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly.... for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!! _______________________________ I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT... I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress... The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode) This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Dec 29 2011, 04:03 PM |
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if i drive crz, ppl cucuk me, i'm gonna step on the brakes.
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even if i'm not driving one now, when ppl lansi cucuk me, i usually just step on the brakes.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 29 2011, 04:40 PM) Similar response back at u.. QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Dec 29 2011, 05:37 PM) Really? Tats so macho...lol.... Let's see u do that with a trailer...lol |
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Dec 29 2011, 06:35 PM) Ppl who bang u will just need to bayar RM300 then claim insurance saja.But ur car value drop dramatically lo because already kena accident before. If I'm the one who have to bang u, I will bang harder and press brake later because since I already bang u and have to claim insurance, might as well bang harder lol. Padan muka to those who brake instead of just move aside when kena tiong. This post has been edited by Pip_X: Dec 29 2011, 09:04 PM |
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 29 2011, 09:03 PM) Ppl who bang u will just need to bayar RM300 then claim insurance saja. Those like to tiong one the front sure alot damage dy one ... might as well give one satu besar one righT? den claim insurance straight ! get all new parts lolx !But ur car value drop dramatically lo because already kena accident before. If I'm the one who have to bang u, I will bang harder and press brake later because since I already bang u and have to claim insurance, might as well bang harder lol. Padan muka to those who brake instead of just move aside when kena tiong. |
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 29 2011, 09:03 PM) Ppl who bang u will just need to bayar RM300 then claim insurance saja. Kena tiong usually those slow poke driver on the fast lane buat kacau only... if your car is slow... move aside But ur car value drop dramatically lo because already kena accident before. If I'm the one who have to bang u, I will bang harder and press brake later because since I already bang u and have to claim insurance, might as well bang harder lol. Padan muka to those who brake instead of just move aside when kena tiong. |
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Dec 29 2011, 05:37 PM) Hahaha.....funny..very new car then u intentionally let it involve in an accident? omg..........the tiongster might be with a 15 years old satria gsr or something....dont care tht much.........while the crz owner.... who knows maybe till chassis bengkok, then consider total lost..good for u... |
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Dec 30 2011, 08:13 AM) Hahaha.....funny..very new car then u intentionally let it involve in an accident? omg.......... last time i kena ppl like this, but then, my car is faster and able to brake better than his car la.the tiongster might be with a 15 years old satria gsr or something....dont care tht much.........while the crz owner.... who knows maybe till chassis bengkok, then consider total lost..good for u... some crappy old kind of car. so i guess ppl that intentionally step on brake are driving crappy car. good luck to them, because there are ppl out there purposely wanna bang ppl, to claim insurance la, or to change bodykit. |
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 30 2011, 09:30 AM) last time i kena ppl like this, but then, my car is faster and able to brake better than his car la. Didn't they know when banged from behind it may cause their car to skid into the opposite lane where a lorry might hit them... some crappy old kind of car. so i guess ppl that intentionally step on brake are driving crappy car. good luck to them, because there are ppl out there purposely wanna bang ppl, to claim insurance la, or to change bodykit. |
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 30 2011, 10:27 AM) Didn't they know when banged from behind it may cause their car to skid into the opposite lane where a lorry might hit them... So when u bang, u bang at the rear left side to make the car infront goes to the opposite lane.If he tak mati kena langgar lorry, he will be scared to hit brake if kena tiong by cars again lo. (Assuming if he no cacat after the accident and still can drive car la...) |
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i havent see any CRZ on the road yet. how come
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Saw 1 just now passing 1U.
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Wow this thread has been so quiet for more than a week. Anyway, does anyone of you here knows how long is the waiting period for this car? Thanks.
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when auto will come?
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i just saw a white crz at JB jalan serampang yesterday with plate JNG.....
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today go to test drive a CRZ..
1st gear 60km/h 2nd gear 90km/h 3rd gear 130km/h after that need to look at the road liao..... it's a fun car to drive man... |
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saw a Malaysia plate white CRZ in JB Tebrau Jusco last weekend. Damn cun...
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QUOTE(LittleBear @ Jan 9 2012, 03:18 PM) I wonder why the CRZ wasn't equipped with the Honda City's i-VTEC engine which has 120bhp. As far as I know, the CRZ engine outputs only 111bhp & the electric motor contributes another 11bhp. Lol. ... Lol ... Then The Prius c will be with 73 + 61 = 134bhp lo? and the Prius with whooping 98+80 hp lo?.... Lol...With the City's i-VTEC engine, the figure would be like 120bhp + 11bhp thus a total of 131bhp. |
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I think with Manual shift the experience is different... also CRZ I believe is lighter than PriusC
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Manual gearbox can take the stress no worries
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 18 2012, 09:02 AM) lol...QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 18 2012, 09:25 AM) more like an ameteur driver is trying to kill the car....With 5th gear, the car can fly to the moon already... |
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60 on gear 1.... then the Hybrid system in it is useless loh... becoz it cant help u safe any fuel. And maybe can ask them to remove the battery if drive like tat becoz ur car we become way more lighter without the battery and faster too.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 18 2012, 01:48 AM) Lol. ... Lol ... Then The Prius c will be with 73 + 61 = 134bhp lo? and the Prius with whooping 98+80 hp lo?.... Lol... The calculation for Hybrid's total horsepower is calculated that way (Petrol engine bhp + Electric motor bhp). The petrol engine and the electric motor will work in unison in order to achieve their max horsepower. Do tell us why are you laughing out loud?This post has been edited by Thrust: Jan 18 2012, 04:55 PM |
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 18 2012, 12:40 PM) 60 on gear 1.... then the Hybrid system in it is useless loh... becoz it cant help u safe any fuel. And maybe can ask them to remove the battery if drive like tat becoz ur car we become way more lighter without the battery and faster too. Not true though... some may say that if you into high performance run Hybrid is useless.... not really... why... simpleI drive a Honda City IDSI 1.5.. when I do a high speed run I can only go as fast as 160-170km/h on a Insight 1.3 I have achieve speed of 200km/h now both car uses IDSI engine... Insight ivtec is actually Valve cut off technology put in... why Insight can go 200?? it is because the Electric Motor has been pushing Torque into the car... and the 1.3l engine is maintaining the speed... also when you press hard like this on a non-hybrid you will get only 4-5km/l for a Hybrid you will get 10km/l it do contribute to fuel saving.... but if you press your car so hard dont expect to get 20km/l lah... |
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wont the battery be empty in awhile like tat.....
Anyway i also dunno much about this hybrid battery thing. Gonna do more research dun want kena laugh by ppl. This post has been edited by 300078: Jan 18 2012, 05:08 PM |
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It wont empty... as I said the Motor only boost the torque (this is where it take the electricity) then when the engine hold the speed it actually go into recharging mode to keep the battery charged so if you boost it again there is power to go...
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 18 2012, 04:49 PM) The calculation for Hybrid's total horsepower is calculated that way (Petrol engine bhp + Electric motor bhp). The petrol engine and the electric motor will work in unison in order to achieve their max horsepower. Do tell us why are you laughing out loud? Sorry ah... I donna about this... Sorry... So can Toyota advertise the Prius have 178hp and the prius c have 134hp total then? Enlighten me ha.. Thank you... |
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QUOTE(psycho1 @ Jan 18 2012, 01:13 AM) i think i'm correct... but not 100% because i only test drive one round...if i'm wrong, please forgive my mistake... 1st to 3rd gear all up to 6k plus rpm and i noticed the engine got cut off due to over rev?? after that 4th gear i can't look at the RPM meter already as i need to look at the road due to the speed... my other friend said he tested up to 190km/h... i can't achieve that because of traffics on road... QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 18 2012, 09:02 AM) i think impreza STI can go more than that...QUOTE(psycho1 @ Jan 18 2012, 11:24 AM) lol... i am testing whether the car is fun to drive or not...more like an ameteur driver is trying to kill the car.... With 5th gear, the car can fly to the moon already... indeed, it is fun to drive with high RPM... QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 18 2012, 12:40 PM) 60 on gear 1.... then the Hybrid system in it is useless loh... becoz it cant help u safe any fuel. And maybe can ask them to remove the battery if drive like tat becoz ur car we become way more lighter without the battery and faster too. just for the sake of testing the power.. not for fuel economyif i buy one, 95% of the time i'll be driving in fuel saving mode while 5% of the time drive fast to release tension or when in bad mood.. |
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Jan 18 2012, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(AMDunFreak @ Jan 18 2012, 08:47 PM) i think i'm correct... but not 100% because i only test drive one round... for JDM, speed cut 180 if i'm wrong, please forgive my mistake... 1st to 3rd gear all up to 6k plus rpm and i noticed the engine got cut off due to over rev?? after that 4th gear i can't look at the RPM meter already as i need to look at the road due to the speed... my other friend said he tested up to 190km/h... i can't achieve that because of traffics on road... i think impreza STI can go more than that... i am testing whether the car is fun to drive or not... indeed, it is fun to drive with high RPM... just for the sake of testing the power.. not for fuel economy if i buy one, 95% of the time i'll be driving in fuel saving mode while 5% of the time drive fast to release tension or when in bad mood.. well, lets just say, the 1.3 hybrid smoked sports car already. and 1.5 even power. then....prius 1.8 pwn all? |
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Jan 18 2012, 09:32 PM
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Hahaha... They can reach tat speed but the amount of time needed to achieve tat speed is like dun know how long.
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Jan 18 2012, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(300078 @ Jan 18 2012, 05:08 PM) wont the battery be empty in awhile like tat..... Anyway i also dunno much about this hybrid battery thing. Gonna do more research dun want kena laugh by ppl. QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 18 2012, 05:22 PM) It wont empty... as I said the Motor only boost the torque (this is where it take the electricity) then when the engine hold the speed it actually go into recharging mode to keep the battery charged so if you boost it again there is power to go... From my experience going top speed with econ off on the Insight, once i step on throttle @ around 100km/h, rpm jump to 5.5k, assist needle goes to full, the car will surge quite fast to around 160km/h when the battery level drop to half/ slightly below half. Then the engine will be forced to charge the battery with charge needle drop 1/4 from center. If i continue to floor the pedal, the charging will stop but the car will get limited assist, needle only slightly up from middle and the battery will immediately charged anytime i reduce throttle pressure.Means at 160-170km/h, give the car some nice 10-15 seconds charge and the battery level will show 1 bar below full, floor the throttle again, rpm will climb to 6k, and u'll be surprise the car can easily pass 180, 190, but i notice whenever the battery depleted and the car going to charging state, the top speed would reduce by 2-3km/h. And that 200km/h easier to achieve when the highway is going downhill. haha... all car like that what? QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 18 2012, 05:55 PM) Sorry ah... I donna about this... Sorry... So can Toyota advertise the Prius have 178hp and the prius c have 134hp total then? Enlighten me ha.. Thank you... Its slightly complicated than just add up the numbers. There were some overlap in power delivery between combustion engine and electric motor. The actual total output (calculation) were also different between toyota's HSD and honda's IMA. From my readings, IMA approach is more on 'as light as possible' with normal CVT, brushless single motor while HSD is more heavier & more complicated drivetrain with planetary gearset etc. The advantage of HSD is it could do extended slow, full battery run with engine shut off (where its get more range), while IMA with smaller capacity battery quite limited in that area. For high speed, IMA seems more suitable with low resistance drive-train and low friction internal while Toyota HSD felt heavier and resist to be pushed faster. Try it. The most comfortable high speed for Prius is around 140-150kmh, while IMA Insight felt light on throttle @ 160km/h. As usual, Honda make it drivers likes to drive fast, while Toyota make its drivers like to drive slow.This post has been edited by watonk: Jan 18 2012, 10:56 PM |
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Jan 18 2012, 11:14 PM
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I have my Insight top speed at Seremban-KL route... I doubt there is any downhill run... the speed is 200km/h and it is not slow to approach that speed... I'm quite surprice at the performance...
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Jan 19 2012, 07:43 AM
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i really underestimate the power of hybrid..... looking forward for someone to go for a CRZ and do a review here.
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Jan 19 2012, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 18 2012, 11:14 PM) I have my Insight top speed at Seremban-KL route... I doubt there is any downhill run... the speed is 200km/h and it is not slow to approach that speed... I'm quite surprice at the performance... Yeah not much downhill there but i guess u play your momentum quite well... I prefer Elite highway for top speed run. |
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Jan 19 2012, 09:46 AM
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Hmm.... not much momentum but the IMA motor do provide alot of torque...
you can feel when you floor the accelerator the IMA assist needle go all the way to full assist to boost the RPM to optimim and let the CVT gear box to do the magic... overall i'm actually impressed that a 1.3 and do 200!!! |
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Jan 19 2012, 09:47 AM
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Insight with 1.3 IMA can reach 200 km/h...
How about crz? Actually, I am waiting for new Civic Hybrid which is using 1.5 liter IMA... |
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Jan 19 2012, 09:57 AM
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I doubt CIVIC hybrid will come... you maybee can expect a Insight 1.5... but I think 1.3 is actually pretty good...
I have no idea a CRZ how fast it can go but should be quite fast... summore 6 speed manual the pulling power and the grip of the manual gearbox will be AWESOME... |
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Jan 19 2012, 10:35 AM
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If they can make the car acceleration fully run on battery then it should b real fast just like the battery version lotus tat outrun the petrol version.
But currently it is still a joke compare to the legendary cr-x |
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Jan 19 2012, 10:39 AM
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But the Legendary CR-X will fail euro emission test 1/2/3/4/5/6 hahaha
also that car is a FUEL guzzer... but all performance car do that.... so it is a norm... the CR-Z approach is slightly different keeping up with time.... Fuel is quite an expensive liquid... |
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Jan 19 2012, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(LittleBear @ Jan 18 2012, 10:51 PM) Pls refer to this link Sorry ah sir... My math fail ... I don't know how to add 80 to 98 will become 136... I am sorry... http://www.toyota.com.my/prius/specifications.dot Look under performance: total power output which is 100KW or 136bhp. That is the combined power output for petrol engine & electric motor. They do advertise it that way. |
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Jan 20 2012, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 19 2012, 10:35 AM) If they can make the car acceleration fully run on battery then it should b real fast just like the battery version lotus tat outrun the petrol version. when crz was under concept development, honda already marked it as "sporty hybrid" not "sports hybrid"But currently it is still a joke compare to the legendary cr-x it is focus on fun handling with hybrid gimmick. they didnt give a damn on horsepower nor 0-100. that alone disappoint many crx enthusiasts, but come on guys lets move on rather than nagging... if u wan a seriously fast FF coupe/hatch, there is always type-r in thier catelgue, integra-R for example. ayrton senna is the legend that no one can replaced for decades or even centuries, but if we keep comparing f1 drivers nowadays to senna then we should have disband the race cause literally all these drivers are nothing compare to senna. schumacher & alonso are all good but not as legendary as him... so shall we keep praising & worship senna like god & crap on every other drivers which arent as good as him? the world will not change itself to suit us, but we shall change ourselves to suit the world or we will be left behind. do u really want to live in the pass like that? your pick... This post has been edited by yamato: Jan 20 2012, 09:09 AM |
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Jan 20 2012, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 19 2012, 10:35 AM) If they can make the car acceleration fully run on battery then it should b real fast just like the battery version lotus tat outrun the petrol version. But currently it is still a joke compare to the legendary cr-x QUOTE(yamato @ Jan 20 2012, 09:08 AM) when crz was under concept development, honda already marked it as "sporty hybrid" not "sports hybrid" I dont think its a joke. Honda is producing both, Insight & CRZ. If Insight can easily hit 200km/h (some foreigners even up to 205-210), I'm quite confident they tuned the CRZ to edge slightly more. Or at least both have similar tops but CRZ accelerate much faster. Maybe the owners of the new CRZ still not yet master the art to bring it to the absolute top speed (as stick shift and clutched car need more skills) and maybe most of the units on the road is still very new and the engine is not loose enough for absolute top speed.it is focus on fun handling with hybrid gimmick. they didnt give a damn on horsepower nor 0-100. that alone disappoint many crx enthusiasts, but come on guys lets move on rather than nagging... if u wan a seriously fast FF coupe/hatch, there is always type-r in thier catelgue, integra-R for example. ayrton senna is the legend that no one can replaced for decades or even centuries, but if we keep comparing f1 drivers nowadays to senna then we should have disband the race cause literally all these drivers are nothing compare to senna. schumacher & alonso are all good but not as legendary as him... so shall we keep praising & worship senna like god & crap on every other drivers which arent as good as him? the world will not change itself to suit us, but we shall change ourselves to suit the world or we will be left behind. do u really want to live in the pass like that? your pick... |
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Jan 20 2012, 09:42 AM
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One word...... Legend are meant to be break..... so
A NEW LEGEND WILL BE MADE |
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Jan 20 2012, 10:00 AM
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Do you all think this car is worth to buy?
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Jan 20 2012, 11:20 AM
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Some people Pay RM3 million for a 2 door Ferrari... they think it worth it
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Jan 20 2012, 11:25 AM
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for those.. RM3M and RM30,000 make not much different for them...
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Jan 20 2012, 11:26 AM
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Jan 20 2012, 11:28 AM
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Jan 20 2012, 11:42 AM
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Jan 20 2012, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 20 2012, 11:42 AM) You still dont get the point... People are willing to pay millions for things they like... so the argument... if CRZ worth it??? then the answer is... DO YOU LIKE IT!!! QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 20 2012, 11:35 AM) What have torque gotta do with topspeed?! Oh ya... this is the same sor hai that claims new brakes in our sedan car is a blend of carbon + ceramic therefore easier to warp due to ABS's constant pulsing |
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Jan 20 2012, 12:18 PM
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Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list)
Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself. 1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive 2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good. 3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected. 4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so. |
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Jan 20 2012, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(sensation1234 @ Jan 20 2012, 12:18 PM) Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list) watch out, insight 1.3A + super duper motor will smoke all these cars for breakfast with ceramic brakes and torque enhanced top speedNote that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself. 1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive 2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good. 3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected. 4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so. This post has been edited by ckk125: Jan 20 2012, 12:27 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Jan 20 2012, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(sensation1234 @ Jan 20 2012, 12:18 PM) Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list) hahaha .. comparing a 1.3 engine with turbos and 1.8 engines. Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself. 1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive 2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good. 3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected. 4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so. |
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Jan 20 2012, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(sensation1234 @ Jan 20 2012, 01:18 PM) Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list) how about mazda 3 2.0? hmmm........Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself. 1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive 2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good. 3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected. 4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so. |
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Jan 20 2012, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(kienu @ Jan 20 2012, 12:32 PM) Not in her list. Anywhere to test the CRZ? The showroom at PJ does not have a test car.Added on January 20, 2012, 12:38 pm QUOTE(lunchtime @ Jan 20 2012, 12:28 PM) Who cares. As I said if you don't like it go do your own comparison.This post has been edited by sensation1234: Jan 20 2012, 12:38 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 12:42 PM
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dai gor... next time record a video to see.... may 0 ~ 200... i guess the duration of video should be around 20min gua...
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Jan 20 2012, 01:26 PM
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can reach tat speed..... but the time to achieve will be like..... think most ppl will lost count. but at least it can achieve it mah.... my Innova cannot break 180km/h (and it only occur when going down hill)
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Jan 20 2012, 01:50 PM
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People who dont own it will complaint this and that why cause Jelous lor.....
it's OK.... you can compare a ferrari and CRz then... go BUY what ever car you like laaa... no one gonna put a gun on your head... haha |
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Jan 20 2012, 03:01 PM
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jealous of CRZ? haha...
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Jan 20 2012, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(sensation1234 @ Jan 20 2012, 12:18 PM) Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list) Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself. 1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive 2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good. 3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected. 4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so. |
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Jan 20 2012, 03:09 PM
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Crz got 6MT variant ?
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Jan 20 2012, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 20 2012, 03:02 PM) I own one (Insight) and it is not slow... well I do own a kancil 660 Auto (aint selling it hahaha)but before this I do own some car... lets see let me list it out... 1. Honda City IDSi 2006 2. Honda Civic EK Hatch 1.5 multimatic (YES IT IS A CVT GEARBOX!!!) 3. Proton Putra GSR1.8 (Turbo) converted - Total Lost... 4. Perodua KELISA 1.0G Manual oh and... 5. a e36 325i sport... (very old car... drink petrol like a LEMBU!!!) and I can say Insight is NOT SLOW... it is fast enough for me... well at 200km/h speed I'm speeding down Seremban Hi-Way... so if 200 is not fast.. then I think I need to re-think a faster vehicle... maybee my next round is a.... (sorry not telling... but now VW... hate NAZI brand) Added on January 20, 2012, 3:15 pm QUOTE(masz94 @ Jan 20 2012, 03:09 PM) CRZ is 6 speed MANUAL...Added on January 20, 2012, 3:18 pmand YES... before you ask I love HONDA... love the insight too... but for those petrol head that like fast car... dont even buy a VW... go get a true performance car... save money go for a TT or a M3... next question can you afford it???... all the flaming around saying this car sucks that car better... end up driving a KANCIL turbo or a SAGALUTION... BORING lah with you guys... Added on January 20, 2012, 3:26 pmOh also I dont drive as aggresive as used to be... maybee getting old hahaha but looking back... driving like you are going to DIE tomorrow is damn damaging to your car... have alot of piston replacement that cost thousand of ringgit... This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Jan 20 2012, 03:26 PM |
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Jan 20 2012, 03:50 PM
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sometimes really tension will drive car real fast.... but usually on highway no on normal KL road lah..... but i nvr dare drive car more than 200kmh.... feels like i will die.... even more than 160kmh i start to feel so.
Anyway i think those ppl just argue saying that the car take too much time to reach the speed they want... all want to have 6 sec reach 100kmh speed mah. So any car that do so more than 10 sec they will feel it is slow. |
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