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TSkingstonray
post Oct 22 2010, 11:56 PM, updated 14y ago

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Malaysia sudah ada keh?

How much is it?
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:05 AM

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post Oct 23 2010, 12:15 AM

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its not a concept car. it will be in production soon and no...msia don't have it yet
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:18 AM

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ic.. it used to be a concept car
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:21 AM

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It's a sport-hybrid. Already on sale since early this year in Japan. In Europe I think it was summer.
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:24 AM

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Spoon alrdy mod it..
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:28 AM

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and TS saw in car town laugh.gif
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:34 AM

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Singapore have's it , try look around Grey Importers .
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:44 AM

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estimated price?
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post Oct 23 2010, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Oct 23 2010, 12:44 AM)
estimated price?
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Japan's price converted to Ringgit x 3
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post Oct 23 2010, 09:11 AM

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JP base price is ¥2.27 million.

US base price is US$19,950.

UK base price will be £16,999.

My CRZ in Car Town

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TSkingstonray
post Oct 23 2010, 11:06 AM

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Any news when will it available in MALAYSIA?
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No. go ask Honda Malaysia.
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:15 PM

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LOL! ask the CEO or salesman..HAHA!
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Oct 23 2010, 09:05 AM)
Japan's price converted to Ringgit x 3
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i think there are no taxes for hybrid cars imposed until 2012....so just convert the price...add a lil bit more...
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:54 PM

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Which means that RM 86k can get the car already? It's a super good deal!
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post Oct 23 2010, 06:43 PM

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Even with 0% tax, Honda Malaysia will mark up the price to maximize their profits.

It's still slower than the old CR-X.
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post Oct 25 2010, 02:17 AM

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Maybe Honda will consider to bring CRZ for us laugh.gif Damn this car is such a looker. So sexy!!!!!
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post Oct 25 2010, 12:49 PM

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post Oct 26 2010, 04:45 PM

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front is cool! But Behind,looks like a MPV,i don like!
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(johnkor @ Oct 23 2010, 01:34 AM)
Singapore have's it , try look around Grey Importers .
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my guess, if they bring it in (local grey), i think prices will hover around RM160k-180K+.
or just a shade under RM200k (new). at least by this years end, it could be seen at local importers.

problem is having grey importer bring CRZ in, u still need honda malaysia to support it. its hybrid, your 'friendly' mechanics will not touch it.
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post Oct 29 2010, 05:46 PM

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It might just be here around the 3rd quarter of next year. Honda Malaysia already did a study with a group of the oldie CR-X owners earlier this year.

The CR-Z have the potential and Honda knows it. Or else, why did they install a manual 6 speed GB? HKS have already begun road - testing [ no more dyno - testing ] their CR-Z supercharger kit. Spoon might race their race - specced CR-Z over at the Thunderhill 25 Hours endurance race this year [ or is it next year? I'm not very sure. ].

I'm saying "might" because HM must consider their main bread - and - butter range, that is the Civic platform as it's due for a replacement next year too.

Let us hope the next HM president [ the nanbawan man is always, and will be, Japanese ] is as understanding the previous ones. We were the ONLY country out of Japan, to get brand new FD2 CTR units with a full Honda warranty, parts, and mechanics trained to maintain and repair 'em, so hopefully, the next Top Trumps man will do the same.

... and since I've brought up about Thunderhill and Spoon..... Spoon Sports At Thunderhill 25 Hours Endurance Race, 2010

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post Oct 29 2010, 10:09 PM

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Hybrid car is dutyfree now, i believe more hybrid car will land into Malaysia soon.
Next should be CRZ and others Toyota hybrid car.
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post Mar 4 2011, 12:06 PM

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crz expected to enter malaysia market in jun @ july this year, estimated price rm130k.. not really sure bout the price..
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post Mar 4 2011, 12:46 PM

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IINM the MUGEN version will have about 200hp & maybe a petrol only CRZ. (Maybe K20A)wub.gif. Source cannot remember but one of the magazine at the POPULAR rack.
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post Apr 23 2011, 12:55 PM

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WALAO , i still waiting for d CRZ leh-.-" i canot wait addddd ahh.. im going to contact honda malaysia now!!!!! to bring down the car now >< jus joking haha..
i heard honda showroom available for booking already for CRZ rm1,000.. true
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post Apr 28 2011, 03:57 PM

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any updates on this baby?
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post Apr 28 2011, 04:21 PM

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i rather get dc5 over this
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post Apr 28 2011, 05:04 PM

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y my car no like dis sad.gif


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post Apr 28 2011, 06:15 PM

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cuz ur car not CR-Z.
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post Apr 29 2011, 03:07 PM

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Any news on this car. I'm going to buy this car 2nd hand if it's enter malaysia in the next few years & put K20a inside it.....Hopefully.....wub.gif
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post Apr 29 2011, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(masz94 @ Apr 29 2011, 03:07 PM)
Any news on this car. I'm going to buy this car 2nd hand if it's enter malaysia in the next few years & put K20a inside it.....Hopefully.....wub.gif
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will reach within this year say by 3 honda SA from different area..and for KL already can book by 1k deposit
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post Apr 29 2011, 03:55 PM

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Great!!! Wuts the price?
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post Apr 30 2011, 01:04 AM

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is the coming CRZ a hybrid car? which type of engine? i heard price around 130k, using hybrid engine or ?
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post Apr 30 2011, 01:29 AM

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utusan kluar already in march
expected price rm120k
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post Apr 30 2011, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(masz94 @ Apr 29 2011, 03:55 PM)
Great!!! Wuts the price?
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4 cylinder engine(IMA also),around 122hp,rm118k with manual or auto option
not sure whether EX version will be here or not..i willing to pay more to get that version

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post Apr 30 2011, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(maocheng @ Apr 29 2011, 03:38 PM)
will reach within this year say by 3 honda SA from different area..and for KL already can book by 1k deposit
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u sure? Then I will go and make deposit liao
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post Apr 30 2011, 07:00 PM

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Me too, i in-love CR-Z white!!, RM118 sound worth it IF full spec
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post Apr 30 2011, 07:03 PM

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will sell my NHC and get CRZ laugh.gif
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post May 1 2011, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(maocheng @ Apr 30 2011, 03:06 AM)
4 cylinder engine(IMA also),around 122hp,rm118k with manual or auto option
not sure whether EX version will be here or not..i willing to pay more to get that version
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How reliable is this piece of info?
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post May 1 2011, 04:24 AM

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erm its like 70% of reliableness?
it told by a Honda Sa ,i dont think he is lie because he already mention of the booking fee too..
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post May 4 2011, 03:48 PM

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anybody booking it already?
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post May 4 2011, 06:04 PM

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checked with my SA and so far he said HM not yet start taking orders wor...
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post May 7 2011, 04:35 PM

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i heard tat is coming out 3rd quarter of this year.. 118k ..
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but jus now i went to honda SA in seremban.. they said.. no news about crz yet.. cannot book yetr..@@ ..
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post May 7 2011, 04:48 PM

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Can start booking, but tentatively still no news... They take your RM10000 booking fees, but actually still no news yet... Supposedly July, but due to happenings in Japan, it is delayed.
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post May 9 2011, 01:49 AM

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sg has it already.

http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_...p?CarCode=10796

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post May 9 2011, 05:36 PM

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i wonder why all hybrid car got a weird bontot =.=?
somehow it look height
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post May 10 2011, 07:00 PM

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Honda malaysia have stop taking Insight order,i think CR-Z after all no luck be here. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ May 10 2011, 07:00 PM)
Honda malaysia have stop taking Insight order,i think CR-Z after all no luck be here. tongue.gif
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serious? becos they cannot meet the orders afterall for insight. lucky i managed to get one in apr.

cr-z eventually will be in malaysia for sure. just the matter of time. tongue.gif
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post May 10 2011, 09:09 PM

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I'm guessing Malaysia will only get the automatic version?
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post May 11 2011, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ May 10 2011, 09:09 PM)
I'm guessing Malaysia will only get the automatic version?
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if u give me manual i also dun want la. in this era, who will still be desperate abt non-practical manual car. tongue.gif
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post May 11 2011, 07:26 AM

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The purpose of CRZ is to save fuel, and manual saves more fuel than automatics. That is of course unless you have no idea how to drive one. Be a man sports!
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QUOTE(advocado @ May 11 2011, 07:26 AM)
The purpose of CRZ is to save fuel, and manual saves more fuel than automatics. That is of course unless you have no idea how to drive one. Be a man sports!
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are u sure about ur statement of manual saves more fuel than automatics? smile.gif
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QUOTE(stalkerrox @ May 11 2011, 08:32 AM)
are u sure about ur statement of manual saves more fuel than automatics? smile.gif
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I think for CR-Z it is the other way round.
From CR-Z brochure:

CVT @ 37 mpg combined (35 city/39 highway)
6MT @ 34 combined (31 city/37 highway)

Could be because of the CVT transmission which has lower power loss than conventional auto or manual.
However, personally felt CVT has no KICK...! You need 6MT on CR-Z to feel the kick yo...

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QUOTE(stalkerrox @ May 11 2011, 08:32 AM)
are u sure about ur statement of manual saves more fuel than automatics? smile.gif
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yes, for old model auto gearboxes, newer cvt or dual clutch actually saves more fuel because they are more efficient and power loss is minimum
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QUOTE(stormlcc @ May 11 2011, 10:02 AM)
yes, for old model auto gearboxes, newer cvt or dual clutch actually saves more fuel because they are more efficient and power loss is minimum
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yes bro.. thats why i was asking him cause he looks like he was refering to like every auto gb smile.gif

i was suppose to wait for CR-Z too but ended up i sold my city and bought GTI cause of the lack of HP the CR-Z has...
but i really love the looks of this CR-Z cant wait to see it on roads in msia..
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yo stalker !
i am maocheng =D remember me?
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I'll cancel my intention to get the Polo if this car is definitely coming to our shores. This baby can be my perfect second car. This car is porno! Ooops...
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QUOTE(maocheng @ May 11 2011, 01:38 PM)
yo stalker !
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post May 11 2011, 05:52 PM

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Is CVT suppose to be using similiar tech as DSG? Coz CVT is still automatic instead of using clutch like DSG.

QUOTE(stalkerrox @ May 11 2011, 12:39 PM)
yes bro.. thats why i was asking him cause he looks like he was refering to like every auto gb smile.gif

i was suppose to wait for CR-Z too but ended up i sold my city and bought GTI cause of the lack of HP the CR-Z has...
but i really love the looks of this CR-Z cant wait to see it on roads in msia..
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QUOTE(advocado @ May 11 2011, 05:52 PM)
Is CVT suppose to be using similiar tech as DSG? Coz CVT is still automatic instead of using clutch like DSG.
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nope totally different...
CVT does not have any fixed gears ratios..


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http://paultan.org/2011/05/19/honda-cr-z-m...ged-for-197-hp/
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QUOTE(advocado @ Oct 23 2010, 06:43 PM)
Even with 0% tax, Honda Malaysia will mark up the price to maximize their profits.

It's still slower than the old CR-X.
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fast than type r car

Spoon CR-Z VS Civic Type-R Euro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...e&v=mq-PB54s4cc
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QUOTE(what_17s @ Jun 7 2011, 03:25 PM)
fast than type r car

Spoon CR-Z VS Civic Type-R Euro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...e&v=mq-PB54s4cc
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sweet...
wonder if this ever make it to BolehLand..no news till now..any bros, have any news on this?

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had a chat with Honda salesman, initially HM still have not decided on bringing in this CRZ as the price has not confirm yet.

Apparently Honda Malaysia could not get confirmation from the G on the tax exemption, etc etc. all money matters... if you know what i mean.
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Honda Malaysia is under DRB Hicom right?
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jun 8 2011, 04:50 PM)
Honda Malaysia is under DRB Hicom right?
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IIRC, DRB has some stake in HM...
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The car should be and will be selling here in 2012.

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post Jun 21 2011, 11:05 AM

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any news about this car?
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jun 21 2011, 11:05 AM)
any news about this car?
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potong stim already..so long no news also sien dy..

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maybe they have a problem in getting the ap....while honda hard to get ap, those roadside recon car seller seems to be getting it easier...damn

if 120k, seems like a good choice .

a brand new honda sports coupe for rm120k.

6 speed manual, save petrol some more.

torque is about 144NM, and 115hp++. hem....

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i doubt will be in July.

Coz if really in July, the SA will already be summoned to HM for product training. Usually its 1 month earlier the sales training starts. but so far has been quite quiet...



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QUOTE(devinz @ Jun 21 2011, 11:50 AM)
i doubt will be in July.

Coz if really in July, the SA will already be summoned to HM for product training. Usually its 1 month earlier the sales training starts. but so far has been quite quiet...


Added on July 21, 2011, 11:24 amFinally!!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=222...&type=1&theater
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content not found la, what is that?
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ Jul 26 2011, 06:15 PM)
content not found la, what is that?
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sorry...seems that the link is removed.
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sorry...seems that the link is removed.
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bty ,mind to share what inside? any new-s on crz?
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ Jul 27 2011, 11:17 PM)
bty ,mind to share what inside? any new-s on crz?
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rumours says that it might be coming in in November...
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QUOTE(devinz @ Jul 28 2011, 11:31 AM)
rumours says that it might be coming in in November...
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last time i post is july now November already ...


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The more I look at Honda Insight, the more I think they both look too much alike from the back... Which, I feel, is a bad thing.
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manual.. cant drive it haha

if they start bringing in this model this year.. insight sales sure down
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November will be in... Around 120K for 6MT
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Jul 28 2011, 12:46 PM)
November will be in... Around 120K for 6MT
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confirm?
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Yes... They held a private meeting 3 weeks ago and this is what they decided...
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i tot they wouldve bring in auto ones tongue.gif that would really be a let down
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sad.gif...I hope they will bring in the auto tranny as well... dont know how to drive MT anymore sad.gif
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post Jul 28 2011, 01:32 PM

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Any honda SA ard in lyn? wanna book this car
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There will be CVT and 6MT variant according to them... I hoping they will have both test drive unit though.
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if its really 120k i dun need a test drive.. was already planning an insight lately
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Jul 28 2011, 12:38 PM)
manual.. cant drive it haha

if they start bringing in this model this year.. insight sales sure down
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crz= 2 door roadster

insight= 4 doors family car.


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crz= 2 door roadster

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staying alone now so CRZ fits the purpose.. only drawback is if its only manual trans available soon
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Best option is Insight for wife drive, CRZ i drive smile.gif haha...
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Jul 28 2011, 12:46 PM)
November will be in... Around 120K for 6MT
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Jul 28 2011, 02:16 PM)
There will be CVT and 6MT variant according to them... I hoping they will have both test drive unit though.
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Hi bro,

earlier you mentioned it is 6MT (manual) but you got wind will have CVT also??
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QUOTE(devinz @ Jul 28 2011, 05:52 PM)
Hi bro,

earlier you mentioned it is 6MT (manual) but you got wind will have CVT also??
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cool car, cant wait for the launch


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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Jul 28 2011, 06:44 PM)
Yes, because I asked for the est. price for 6MT only... But both variants will be available...
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CRZ Will be lauch on Nov?

What about all new civic?
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Jul 28 2011, 06:44 PM)
Yes, because I asked for the est. price for 6MT only... But both variants will be available...
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QUOTE(comingsoon87 @ Aug 4 2011, 06:42 PM)
Please dont make me happy! R U SURE SURE SURE???
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it price around 120k++... will u buy?
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Aug 4 2011, 06:51 PM)
it price around 120k++... will u buy?
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120k? overprice. insight better and 4door somemore, why want buy brand while u can get all those in lower price package
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because its a different sort of car for different sort of people
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Seen CRZ before. Can't sit anyone at the back tongue.gif but it's a cool and stylish car.
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QUOTE(chuakz @ Aug 4 2011, 09:16 PM)
because its a different sort of car for different sort of people
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Chuakz was right! 120K to buy a sport car is kind of cheap... of couse, i will get 1!!! i had waiting from FEB till now! Hops CRZ get stock b4 2011 DEC 31.
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Wonder how bad will be the rear legroom...
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QUOTE(devinz @ Aug 4 2011, 10:12 PM)
Wonder how bad will be the rear legroom...
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It's totally no space... I saw the review on9, there will be no space for head as well!
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QUOTE(comingsoon87 @ Aug 5 2011, 10:04 AM)
It's totally no space... I saw the review on9, there will be no space for head as well!
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mind to share where you view the online review bro?
wanna see how bad is the legroom...

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its a 2 seaters so no rear leg room -.-
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it is a 2+2 seater... can seat but very cramp...

tomato sauce?

CRZ back seat?

saw the real car last year...

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QUOTE(devinz @ Aug 5 2011, 04:05 PM)
mind to share where you view the online review bro?
wanna see how bad is the legroom...
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http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F...h?v=jbmgUXKPfeQ
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Too bad 99.9% HM won't be bringing the Mugen full kit... Everything just nice, but judging from the price from MUGEN.... Woooo
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Hybrid model only?
Hehe sure later someone put a K20A engine in there

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QUOTE(devinz @ Aug 4 2011, 10:12 PM)
Wonder how bad will be the rear legroom...
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Saw one upclose personally while I was in UK. The back seat only can fit kids tongue.gif trying to fit more than 2 adults is quite hard.

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as you can see the photo above, the back window is how big the back seat is. the other segment is the boot trunk tongue.gif

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looking at the latest news kinda bring more hope this car is coming in by year end..
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wanna lug around your friends at the back? surely this car ain't for you.. lol
its for drivers or dating car.. lol
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sad.gif sadding... not for 4 adults sad.gif
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Aug 12 2011, 11:12 AM)
sad.gif sadding... not for 4 adults  sad.gif
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this car is for pleasure drive with chicks... sometimes for rempit... hehe
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some updates:

CRZ 1.5(M) ~ November 2011
CRZ 1.5 (CVT) ~ To be advised
City MMC ~ December 2011
Civic (9th Gen) ~ Feb 2012
CRV 2.0 (4th Gen) ~ Q2 2012

Source: http://tovahondafan.blogspot.com/2011/08/n...nformation.html


Added on August 26, 2011, 11:22 amWith the soon to be launch of POLO GTI, guess will somehow divide the take up of CR-Z...

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QUOTE(devinz @ Aug 26 2011, 11:21 AM)
some updates:

CRZ 1.5(M) ~ November 2011
CRZ 1.5 (CVT) ~ To be advised
City MMC ~ December 2011
Civic (9th Gen) ~ Feb 2012
CRV 2.0 (4th Gen) ~ Q2 2012

Source: http://tovahondafan.blogspot.com/2011/08/n...nformation.html


Added on August 26, 2011, 11:22 amWith the soon to be launch of POLO GTI, guess will somehow divide the take up of CR-Z...
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performance wise, we know how fast is polo gti smile.gif 0-100 same par with golf gti.
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QUOTE(MikeX @ Jul 28 2011, 04:46 PM)
Best option is Insight for wife drive, CRZ i drive smile.gif haha...
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Hahaha nice one
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can pre-order already? would like to place order already for this car. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 12 2011, 08:49 PM)
can pre-order already? would like to place order already for this car. tongue.gif
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i think some outlet are accepting pre-order...

westlife, i thought you already have an insight?

heard cr-z will be 6MT manual...

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Honda CR-Z Sport Hybrid - Honda Global Amity Waiting List


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Get on the waiting list before its too late! smile.gif

Email your details to crz@globalamity.com.my

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QUOTE(devinz @ Sep 13 2011, 12:11 PM)
i think some outlet are accepting pre-order...

westlife, i thought you already have an insight?

heard cr-z will me 6MT manual...
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yeah i already have an insight... just kepo to check on the waiting list thingy. may change to crz the price everything is good.

if it is manual i confirm not interest unless it is auto with paddle shift. tongue.gif
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CRZ for the looks

Polo GTi for the powder.


QUOTE(devinz @ Aug 26 2011, 11:21 AM)
some updates:

CRZ 1.5(M) ~ November 2011
CRZ 1.5 (CVT) ~ To be advised
City MMC ~ December 2011
Civic (9th Gen) ~ Feb 2012
CRV 2.0 (4th Gen) ~ Q2 2012

Source: http://tovahondafan.blogspot.com/2011/08/n...nformation.html


Added on August 26, 2011, 11:22 amWith the soon to be launch of POLO GTI, guess will somehow divide the take up of CR-Z...
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I went to Honda dealer today. The sales told me CRZ CVT not confirmed whether coming to M'sia?
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doubt crz will beat the polo gti at 180ps. this crz is hybrid.
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i think crz is quite lame for, small,compact, narrow, plastic interior, hybrid but millage dont impress at all , and selling damn expensive in MY.
positive is, exterior futuristic ,and interior gauge also, three mode drivie(just gimmick for me cuz not much differ after switch just feel the torque more and a bit accelerate), eventually this type car is for personal stylish buyer.
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ Oct 1 2011, 01:14 PM)
i think crz is quite lame for, small,compact, narrow, plastic interior, hybrid but millage dont impress at all , and selling damn expensive in MY.
positive is, exterior futuristic ,and interior gauge also, three mode drivie(just gimmick for me cuz not much differ after switch just feel the torque more and a bit accelerate), eventually this type car is for personal stylish buyer.
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Wait till u drive the Mugen version.. Btw the design of crx is very tempting... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(masz94 @ Oct 1 2011, 02:12 PM)
Wait till u drive the Mugen version.. Btw the design of crx is very tempting... tongue.gif
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but mugen never being production line lol, and as heard only hit 198bhp, i rather hope this year tokyo auto might debut new crz type-R or toyota ft-86 with is proper sporty car.
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ Oct 1 2011, 01:14 PM)
i think crz is quite lame for, small,compact, narrow, plastic interior, hybrid but millage dont impress at all , and selling damn expensive in MY.
positive is, exterior futuristic ,and interior gauge also, three mode drivie(just gimmick for me cuz not much differ after switch just feel the torque more and a bit accelerate), eventually this type car is for personal stylish buyer.
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same price, polo gti will beat it
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same price, polo gti will beat it
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yo.. CRZ will have aftermarket turbo kit.. already got ppl autocross turbo hybrid ones in us.. thumbup.gif summore like tamiya RC car, next time can buy hop up battery and electric motor.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(sean8509 @ Oct 1 2011, 01:14 PM)
i think crz is quite lame for, small,compact, narrow, plastic interior, hybrid but millage dont impress at all , and selling damn expensive in MY.
positive is, exterior futuristic ,and interior gauge also, three mode drivie(just gimmick for me cuz not much differ after switch just feel the torque more and a bit accelerate), eventually this type car is for personal stylish buyer.
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Well,u cant have it all...its a first of its kind, a hybrid yet to produce sportiness feeling from its chasis and handling...
More or less like suzuki swift sport,people dont say it is power crazy car,but it is really agile and fun to drive if u like to corner around hard.

Honda has make the CRZ platform from Insight but they strengthen it to be on par with Civic type R...and the civic type r
chassis are a lot more stronger than Intergra so u bet the CRZ will too be 'FUN' to drive....not fast to drive

Another thing worthy is that Malaysia dont impose tax for hybrid car with low engine CC....so i would say i might be a good buy
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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Oct 1 2011, 11:41 PM)
Well,u cant have it all...its a first of its kind, a hybrid yet to produce sportiness feeling from its chasis and handling...
More or less like suzuki swift sport,people dont say it is power crazy car,but it is really agile and fun to drive if u like to corner around hard.

Honda has make the CRZ platform from Insight but they strengthen it to be on par with Civic type R...and the civic type r
chassis are a lot more stronger than Intergra so u bet the CRZ will too be 'FUN' to drive....not fast to drive

Another thing worthy is that Malaysia dont impose tax for hybrid car with low engine CC....so i would say i might be a good buy
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SOS???
drove b4?

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I have not driven the CRZ of coz...waiting for it...Only driven type r.

SOS here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DD2qNcvOnE...player_embedded
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Aug 12 2011, 01:05 PM)
wana 4 adult go persona, myvi... big enough 2 fit 4-5 ppls...

this car is for pleasure drive with chicks... sometimes for rempit... hehe
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you know that kind of feel when u r unable to fetch family/friends/relative due to how small the back seats... i'm not a selfish type of people, coz i always share car to lunch/business trip/balik kampung etc...
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Saw a CRZ on the NS Highway a while back, kena stopped by polis laugh.gif
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Oct 3 2011, 03:41 PM)
Saw a CRZ on the NS Highway a while back, kena stopped by polis laugh.gif
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Hey bro, are you sure it is CRZ and not INSIGHT? drool.gif
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or might be confused with RCZ? tongue.gif
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i wonder why till now still does not have spy shot of this CR-Z since it is schedule to be launch in November...

anyone come across any updates?

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QUOTE(devinz @ Oct 3 2011, 04:53 PM)
Hey bro, are you sure it is CRZ and not INSIGHT?  drool.gif
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Confirm CRZ bro, and it was in gunmetal grey. The back and front compared to Insight totally different lah. Got a glimpse of it on the highway somewhere near Johor smile.gif
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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Oct 4 2011, 09:25 PM)
Confirm CRZ bro, and it was in gunmetal grey. The back and front compared to Insight totally different lah. Got a glimpse of it on the highway somewhere near Johor smile.gif
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What number plate it's carrying?
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What number plate it's carrying?
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Let's hope it's carrying trade plate or JPJ test.

Likely possible also from SG.
There are a couple of CRZ in SG through their pararel import...
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What number plate it's carrying?
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Not sure, but definitely not a trade plate.
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Bro devinz placed order?
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Oct 4 2011, 10:42 PM)
Bro devinz placed order?
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Tentatively yes..
But got to see the actual car, see how bad is the back seat and also if can dispose my FD with a good price..

so far seems 2nd hand price for FD is not that favorable..


Added on October 7, 2011, 4:46 pmBudget 2012: Full exemption of import duty and excise duty on hybrid cars and electric cars will continue to be given until 2013

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Placed a booking for 1! I have been told it'll now arrive in M'sia during Dec 11 / Jan 12. Is this what every1 else hear?
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QUOTE(devinz @ Oct 5 2011, 11:34 AM)
Tentatively yes..
But got to see the actual car, see how bad is the back seat and also if can dispose my FD with a good price..

so far seems 2nd hand price for FD is not that favorable..


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great news

http://paultan.org/2011/10/14/honda-cr-z-s...-on-the-way-in/

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 14 2011, 03:44 PM)
ITS FINALLY HERE and with DRL...!
Hope is the 2012 version with black interior!!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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It's about time they decided to bring it in.
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Hopefully won't get strap down much... Cause there will be some features...
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they probably won't cause this is not aim at the budget market.it will be priced between the insight and the civic
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I heard manual selling 110k? Anyone can correct me...
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Is the crz under honda malaysia or grey importers?
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 16 2011, 03:29 AM)
Is the crz under honda malaysia or grey importers?
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Of cause by Honda Malaysia lah...
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I heard is selling at 130k from SA
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 17 2011, 12:31 PM)
130k?! Are they insane? Overseas its the same price as Insight and here they want to jack up extra 30%? If this is true then I'll scratch my order.
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CRAP! thats a bad news...
i think 130 is over priced..

btw, anyone has any idea if the SA's went to the product training?

heard it will launch early nov..likely 1st week of nov...
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so....which of u has intentions of getting the CRZ n transplanting the K20A-R in it? hasport already has mounts for the conversion brows.gif
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QUOTE(darkjackal @ Oct 17 2011, 03:44 PM)
It's coming...
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2 door cars is always more expensive in malaysia...

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120k still acceptable...its uses the same chassis and further strengthened it to the level
of the honda civic type R....That means its chassis rigidity is stronger than integra dc5

so if insight is around 100k...add 6k for the engine add 4k for the performance tyres
and a little bit of this and that another 10k should be ok...130k then its a turn down
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QUOTE(devinz @ Oct 17 2011, 12:53 PM)
CRAP! thats a bad news...
i think 130 is over priced..

btw, anyone has any idea if the SA's went to the product training?

heard it will launch early nov..likely 1st week of nov...
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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Oct 17 2011, 04:21 PM)
120k still acceptable...its uses the same chassis and further strengthened it to the level
of the honda civic type R....That means its chassis rigidity is stronger than integra dc5

so if insight is around 100k...add 6k for the engine add 4k for the performance tyres
and a little bit of this and that another 10k should be ok...130k then its a turn down
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Huh? Are you justifying the pricing on behalf of Honda?!

Pls look at how much they sellign it in US, its par Insight price maybe around $1k diff at most. Unless you saying Msia spec have a more rigid chassism better tyres, better engine blah blah blah
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http://paultan.org/2011/10/17/honda-cr-z-s...on-in-malaysia/
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You booked?
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So will launch nexmonth ? cool ~ mesti mahal  sweat.gif
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price rumored +/- 120K

Hope there wouldnt be surprise like the just launched Jetta.
Rumored @ 135K, final @ 149K...

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What price and spec? If its 130k then can forget it.. i dont feel liek getting ripped off  mad.gif
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how much???

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why so kancheong book? biggrin.gif if the deadline was end of this year then ok lor rush for it.. but already extend to 2013 mah..
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QUOTE(devinz @ Oct 20 2011, 02:10 PM)
price rumored +/- 120K

Hope there wouldnt be surprise like the just launched Jetta.
Rumored @ 135K, final @ 149K...
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 21 2011, 07:19 AM)
jetta is nice.
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hot hatch!


Added on October 21, 2011, 9:33 amcheck this out...

http://tovahondafan.blogspot.com/2011/10/c...r-z-launch.html

‎"right at the start of next month.." so meaning likely to be launch by the first weekend, 4th or 5th November?
That's 2 weeks from NOW!!!

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But will not cheap! In US both insight and crz same prices...
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For 100K+, it gonna b a big hit in bolehland.
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For 100K+, it gonna b a big hit in bolehland.
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today I talk to an SA from the showroom.
they predict it will launch at 3rd week of nov, as they havent gone thru the product training yet which will happen in 2 weeks time.

They said max could be 120k but very likely around 110k.

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Below 110k then will surely got more buyer... Else wait for other model coming in soon...
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today I talk to an SA from the showroom.
they predict it will launch at 3rd week of nov, as they havent gone thru the product training yet which will happen in 2 weeks time.

They said max could be 120k but very likely around 110k.
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hehe...i think this car won't be cheap....haha...just like jetta pricing....wat the rumors said and the exactly pricing is totally a huge different.....
but i wish the CRZ pricing will be at around 125k ....coz if too much ppl, ppl will still get civic....


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Just got called... EST RM120k
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good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++...

family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space
graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford
speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices
old man wont grab this... not worth the price...

in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car...
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 05:56 PM)
good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++...

family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space
graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford
speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices
old man wont grab this... not worth the price...

in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car...
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120k also expensive for 2 door type cars? even 4door CT200h so small inside also grab like hot cakes.. biggrin.gif
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Ct can fit 4-5 persons for Crz confirmed 2adult only

Ct waiting list is too long many of my friends still not get the car including me! I consider crz if the prices is 110k for manual I dun mind to order 1 for daily use to work since driving big car feel bored
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 05:56 PM)
good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++...

family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space
graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford
speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices
old man wont grab this... not worth the price...

in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car...
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a lot of fresh grad that are going to buy civic will consider this car.

come on, which fresh grad needs a 5 seater civic? they need a 130k car to stand out from vios/city tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ethan99 @ Oct 25 2011, 07:23 PM)
Ct can fit 4-5 persons for Crz confirmed 2adult only

Ct waiting list is too long many of my friends still not get the car including me!  I consider crz if the prices is 110k for manual I dun mind to order 1 for daily use to work since driving big car feel bored
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it's not about fitting how many ppl ler.. 2 door usually higher priced than 4door mah.. E class coupe higher than sedan, 3series E92 more exp than 4door e90 etc etc..
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 05:56 PM)
good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++...

family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space
graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford
speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices
old man wont grab this... not worth the price...

in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car...
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for me i am interested. but no manual for me la tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 25 2011, 06:37 PM)
120k also expensive for 2 door type cars? even 4door CT200h so small inside also grab like hot cakes..  biggrin.gif
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i can say if around 110k, most likely selling like hot cake...

but 120k++, dun think will do...

will u grab this if price @ 120k++?


Added on October 25, 2011, 11:03 pm
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Ct can fit 4-5 persons for Crz confirmed 2adult only

Ct waiting list is too long many of my friends still not get the car including me!  I consider crz if the prices is 110k for manual I dun mind to order 1 for daily use to work since driving big car feel bored
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less than 170k oledi can grab a lexus... many ppls' dream... lol...

u made a great choice, ct looks nice... just the price is quite off (for me la)... but lexus ma, wat to expect?

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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 10:55 PM)
i can say if around 110k, most likely selling like hot cake...

but 120k++, dun think will do...

will u grab this if price @ 120k++?


Added on October 25, 2011, 11:03 pm

less than 170k oledi can grab a lexus... many ppls' dream... lol...

u made a great choice, ct looks nice... just the price is quite off (for me la)... but lexus ma, wat to expect?
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if 110-120k can consider anyway waiting for auto price details then decide lor probably early next year..

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Got a call from Honda salesman yesterday. Was informed that only 100 units available til end of this year. Manual Transmission and white color available for the time being with no further confirmation that the CVT model will be brought in to our malaysian shores.
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 25 2011, 05:56 PM)
good luck to them if they priced @ 120k ++...

family man with kids for 1st car wont grab this... less space
graduand/ teenager wont to grab this... cant afford
speed junkie wont grab this... alot of better choices
old man wont grab this... not worth the price...

in the end onli for those rich man that going buy this as 2nd/3rd car...
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what u mentioned is true. i feel exactly the same.

rm110k for a 1.5L honda city/jazz engine (correct me if im wrong) that comes with a 14hp electric motor.... wtf!
but when we put crz into the european hatch chart, the handling is on par with mini, clio, golf's handling; where these euro hatches easily cost 50% more pricy then the crz.

so if any1 looking for a practical, spacious, versatile, affordable kind of car, look elsewhere pls.
there is only few selling points in crz = 1. handling and 2. hybrid gimmick.

frankly, i couldnt think of any car handles better than the crz for rm100k range (havnt test drive it, only collected lotsa overseas test drive reports n reviews). crz is a bargain for the petrolheads, not family man. enuf said.

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Agreed... Will see how the response from market...

QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2011, 02:27 PM)
what u mentioned is true. i feel exactly the same.

rm110k for a 1.5L honda city/jazz engine (correct me if im wrong) that comes with a 14hp electric motor.... wtf!
but when we put crz into the european hatch chart, the handling is on par with mini, clio, golf's handling; where these euro hatches easily cost 50% more pricy then the crz.

so if any1 looking for a practical, spacious, versatile, affordable kind of car, look elsewhere pls.
there is only few selling points in crz = 1. handling and 2. hybrid gimmick.

frankly, i couldnt think of any car handles better than the crz for rm100k range (havnt test drive it, only collected lotsa overseas test drive reports n reviews). crz is a bargain for the petrolheads, not family man. enuf said.
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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2011, 02:27 PM)
what u mentioned is true. i feel exactly the same.

rm110k for a 1.5L honda city/jazz engine (correct me if im wrong) that comes with a 14hp electric motor.... wtf!
but when we put crz into the european hatch chart, the handling is on par with mini, clio, golf's handling; where these euro hatches easily cost 50% more pricy then the crz.

so if any1 looking for a practical, spacious, versatile, affordable kind of car, look elsewhere pls.
there is only few selling points in crz = 1. handling and 2. hybrid gimmick.

frankly, i couldnt think of any car handles better than the crz for rm100k range (havnt test drive it, only collected lotsa overseas test drive reports n reviews). crz is a bargain for the petrolheads, not family man. enuf said.
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CRZ handling is no match to mini, no where near the highly appraise renault sport clio's and they are all almost the same price in overseas.

For handling at less than 100k, I would choose to wait for the new swift sport, minus the battery to worry about, 4 doors, factory tuned engine, suspension etc.
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CRZ handling is no match to mini, no where near the highly appraise renault sport clio's and they are all almost the same price in overseas.

For handling at less than 100k, I would choose to wait for the new swift sport, minus the battery to worry about, 4 doors, factory tuned engine, suspension etc.
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Its just mean sporty,not sports car....CRZ chassis are the same with honda insight but then they strengthen and
make it more rigid to the same level as the new fd2r...which means the crz rigidity is better than integra dc5

anyway there's no point to talk about its handling what more to compare them since we have not even test driven it yet


Anyway the good news is Honda will make CRZ official launch on next week 3rd of NOV
my burfday is on 5th nov,how good if this will be my present LOL
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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2011, 02:27 PM)
what u mentioned is true. i feel exactly the same.

rm110k for a 1.5L honda city/jazz engine (correct me if im wrong) that comes with a 14hp electric motor.... wtf!
but when we put crz into the european hatch chart, the handling is on par with mini, clio, golf's handling; where these euro hatches easily cost 50% more pricy then the crz.

so if any1 looking for a practical, spacious, versatile, affordable kind of car, look elsewhere pls.
there is only few selling points in crz = 1. handling and 2. hybrid gimmick.

frankly, i couldnt think of any car handles better than the crz for rm100k range (havnt test drive it, only collected lotsa overseas test drive reports n reviews). crz is a bargain for the petrolheads, not family man. enuf said.
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yeah definitely worthwhile to get due to the exemption of tax.
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yeah definitely worthwhile to get due to the exemption of tax.
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What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah.

PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US :
Insight EX : $21,815
CRZ EX : $21,105


So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 30 2011, 03:45 PM)
What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah.

PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US :
Insight EX : $21,815
CRZ EX : $21,105
So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 30 2011, 03:45 PM)
What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah.

PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US :
Insight EX : $21,815
CRZ EX : $21,105
So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are.
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honda malaysia treat those buyers like dumbass... anyway, wait for the pricing... few more days later....
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Heard Honda Malaysia will officially launched CR-Z on 3rd November!
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Yes bro Devinz, by the end of this week around
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 30 2011, 03:45 PM)
What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah.

PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US :
Insight EX : $21,815
CRZ EX : $21,105
So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are.
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Looks like a sports car (2-door) so charge premium lor....
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you forget that Honda Jazz and Freed...both priced by local Honda at a price "nobody" cares to buy at 100k+ for a "duuuhhhh" 1.5

to me, Honda is a ripoff themselves....

they can price the CRZ as "sports" and make the car sale tax higher....

anything is possible.

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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:17 PM)
you forget that Honda Jazz and Freed...both priced by local Honda at a price "nobody" cares to buy at 100k+ for a "duuuhhhh"  1.5

to me, Honda is  a ripoff themselves....

they can price the CRZ as "sports" and make the car sale tax higher....

anything is possible.
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Jazz and Freed are CBU, therefore higher tax...

CRZ is 2 door... definitely more expensive... different tax structure by the gahmen...
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This Nov is the launching manual version hybrid
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This Nov is the launching manual version hybrid
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:17 PM)
you forget that Honda Jazz and Freed...both priced by local Honda at a price "nobody" cares to buy at 100k+ for a "duuuhhhh"  1.5

to me, Honda is  a ripoff themselves....

they can price the CRZ as "sports" and make the car sale tax higher....

anything is possible.
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confirm by a honda SA, the price is RM120K; 2 doors 4 seats
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wah , very $$$$$ , middle class or high price
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QUOTE(Intel@Atom @ Nov 2 2011, 09:49 PM)
confirm by a honda SA, the price is RM120K; 2 doors 4 seats
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120k price tag has been floating around since January.

Let's wait for the official pricing from Honda Malaysia soon...
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Why not 110k?
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hmmm...when will the Hyundai Veloster be out here n the pricing?
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Today thestar paper got 1 full page on this release.
So tempting but 120k is really bit too much...

Was expecting around 110k
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QUOTE(darkjackal @ Nov 3 2011, 10:03 AM)
Today thestar paper got 1 full page on this release.
So tempting but 120k is really bit too much...

Was expecting around 110k
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you mean advert on the star bro??


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you mean advert on the star bro??
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Found it..

http://mystar.my/ads/ad.aspx?id=e0c08691-d...56-ae86532425d1

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:25 PM)
Jazz and Freed are CBU, therefore higher tax...

CRZ is 2 door... definitely more expensive... different tax structure by the gahmen...
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Different tax structure? and here I thought Hybrid car is tax free......

@ 120K ... good luck to them
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Ppl will still buy..
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Confirm RM120K.
Only comes in 6-speed Manual.
Current Honda Malaysia's catalogue shows only available in White colour.
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QUOTE(rikmungmail @ Nov 3 2011, 12:15 PM)
Confirm RM120K.
Only comes in 6-speed Manual.
Current Honda Malaysia's catalogue shows only available in White colour.
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where do you get the catalogue bro??
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QUOTE(Essilor @ Nov 3 2011, 12:06 PM)
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My dad works for Honda.He brought a few home for me to see.
Actual date for launching is actually today.But the ship hasn't arrive.So,probably launch by this week or next week.

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So that's why its not posted yet on honda.com.my
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QUOTE(rikmungmail @ Nov 3 2011, 12:20 PM)
My dad works for Honda.He brought a few home for me to see.
Actual date for launching is actually today.But the ship hasn't arrive.So,probably launch by this week or next week.
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did ur dad tell u y honda malaysia mark up the price so high?

any scanner? mind to leak out the catalogue?

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did ur dad tell u y honda malaysia mark up the price so high?

any scanner? mind to leak out the catalogue?
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did ur dad tell u y honda malaysia mark up the price so high?

any scanner? mind to leak out the catalogue?
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And I'll also try to do it by today.
Here's a picture of how the cover looks like.
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Don't you think RM120k is overpriced? Provided this Hybrid is not subject to any tax structure... so we shouldn't categorise it as Sports/Sedan as normal car...

Sales tax should be affect the category as well...

Don't get me wrong, I love this car but I think the price is marked up quite high @ RM120k...
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QUOTE(rikmungmail @ Nov 3 2011, 12:38 PM)
Nope.I'll try to ask him.
And I'll also try to do it by today.
Here's a picture of how the cover looks like.
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thx... 120k OTR?


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QUOTE(thankyou @ Nov 3 2011, 12:44 PM)
Don't you think RM120k is overpriced? Provided this Hybrid is not subject to any tax structure... so we shouldn't categorise it as Sports/Sedan as normal car...

Sales tax should be affect the category as well...

Don't get me wrong, I love this car but I think the price is marked up quite high @ RM120k...
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This car price is on par with Insight, only in Malaysia they put in a premium of RM20k. Malaysia Boleh.
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Nov 3 2011, 12:44 PM)
Don't you think RM120k is overpriced? Provided this Hybrid is not subject to any tax structure... so we shouldn't categorise it as Sports/Sedan as normal car...

Sales tax should be affect the category as well...

Don't get me wrong, I love this car but I think the price is marked up quite high @ RM120k...
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Yelah dude, RM 120k is an overkill. Should be around 95k to 110k. Then a lot of people can do justice to the environment by going green. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 3 2011, 01:14 PM)
This car price is on par with Insight, only in Malaysia they put in a premium of RM20k. Malaysia Boleh.
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Its HONDA dude. Surely they will add an extra 10 to 20k to the actual/should be price of the car just because they can & people are still willing to pay for it. Its up to us as consumers to do the rest. smile.gif

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120k is steep...

have you guys watched vtec club vol.8? the spoon tuned crz whacked the euro civic type r around the track.

in b4; tuned by spoon sure win, euro type r sux, keiichi driving sure win, bla bla

but fact is, its still a 1.5l HYBRID and it beat a type r.
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QUOTE(cfc-free @ Nov 3 2011, 01:39 PM)
120k is steep...

have you guys watched vtec club vol.8? the spoon tuned crz whacked the euro civic type r around the track.

in b4; tuned by spoon sure win, euro type r sux, keiichi driving sure win, bla bla

but fact is, its still a 1.5l HYBRID and it beat a type r.
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how much they spent in the spoon crz? with money, anything is possible...
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erm..the things i can get from the video is, a new exhaust and intake, spoon brakes and suspension, and a higher final drive. 4.1-4.3..

maybe got more but thats all i could understand. . still mighty impressive

editted: found the list of mods here : http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/04/19...ports-cr-z.aspx

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i think RM120k is reasonable, as the Insight found in malaysia is the lowest spec among the all the Insight variant, if u compare CRZ with the highest spec of Insight, should be similar.
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QUOTE(chris_tco @ Nov 3 2011, 02:03 PM)
i think RM120k is reasonable, as the Insight found in malaysia is the lowest spec among the all the Insight variant, if u compare CRZ with the highest spec of Insight, should be similar.
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Lowest spec insight = lowest spec CRZ. Highest spec insight = highest spec CRZ price.

So are you saying the Insight offered in Msia is lowest spec while the CRZ is HIGHEST spec? Have u seen which spec is the CRZ?

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the price that u guys compare is putting highest spec of insight to compare CRZ which found similar price range in US
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the price that u guys compare is putting highest spec of insight to compare CRZ which found similar price range in US
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Dude at least read a few post back. I compared US price based on SIMILAR spec for CRZ/Insight.

As for the specs of Insight v CRZ here. DO you know what spec is the CRZ? Its the TOP spec?
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QUOTE(cfc-free @ Nov 3 2011, 01:56 PM)
erm..the things i can get from the video is, a new exhaust and intake, spoon brakes and suspension, and a higher final drive. 4.1-4.3..

maybe got more but thats all i could understand. . still mighty impressive

editted: found the list of mods here : http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/04/19...ports-cr-z.aspx
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Most important is the weight shaving, the car weighs only 950kgs which is impressive
150BHP with a 950kg chassis, good enough ^^


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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 3 2011, 02:56 PM)
Most important is the weight shaving, the car weighs only 950kgs which is impressive
150BHP with a 950kg chassis, good enough ^^
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That's what made the old CRX famous... its not the power... but the power to weight ratio.. yum yum! Thought I was about to relive the old legend ... but at 120k.. bleh.... lacking motivation le
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still no detail release of the launch...


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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 3 2011, 02:59 PM)
That's what made the old CRX famous... its not the power... but the power to weight ratio.. yum yum! Thought I was about to relive the old legend ... but at 120k.. bleh.... lacking motivation le
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If Insight is said to be lowest spec, then it shouldn't priced at 90-100k at first place... right? Yet again, where did the 'tax' went? Commercial AP/Gov hidden tax/Honda Malaysia?
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If Insight is said to be lowest spec, then it shouldn't priced at 90-100k at first place... right? Yet again, where did the 'tax' went? Commercial AP/Gov hidden tax/Honda Malaysia?
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that's something Honda call Profit... aka Ripoff to consumers...
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some one mentioned, the CR-Z is price @ 115K..

lets see if this is real...

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someone claimed that he called to ask with honda malaysia and he said he it is 115k.

Which is true? wait for the answer ba.
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who is gonna buy jazz once this is launched? but on the other hand...its going to be tough to beat the VW polo if it costs the same or more then the polo
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 3 2011, 02:56 PM)
Most important is the weight shaving, the car weighs only 950kgs which is impressive
150BHP with a 950kg chassis, good enough ^^
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summarized from the webpage...

1. lightweight carbon fiber hood
2. finely balancing pistons, conrods, crankshaft with Spoon low-friction bearings
3. Exhaust headers and a full N1 race exhaust system
4. 21% larger throttle (up from 50 mm to 56 mm)
5. Spoon ECU
6. extended tower bar
7. Toyo Tires Turnpike
8. Spoon 17-inch CR93 wheels
9. fully adjustable race suspension
10. Spoon 4-pot monobloc calipers
11. low-mounted Spoon carbon-Kevlar bucket seats
12. Spoon LED-type side mirrors

damn those parts would probably buy another crz after the shipping cost, government tax charged...


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who is gonna buy jazz once this is launched? but on the other hand...its going to be tough to beat the VW polo if it costs the same or more then the polo
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when u have a family with 2-3 kids then u know...


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yea its 115k with 6 speed MT
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where did u c 115k?

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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Nov 3 2011, 04:46 PM)
summarized from the webpage...

1. lightweight carbon fiber hood
2. finely balancing pistons, conrods, crankshaft with Spoon low-friction bearings
3. Exhaust headers and a full N1 race exhaust system
4. 21% larger throttle (up from 50 mm to 56 mm)
5. Spoon ECU
6. extended tower bar
7. Toyo Tires Turnpike
8. Spoon 17-inch CR93 wheels
9. fully adjustable race suspension
10. Spoon 4-pot monobloc calipers
11. low-mounted Spoon carbon-Kevlar bucket seats
12. Spoon LED-type side mirrors

damn those parts would probably buy another crz after the shipping cost, government tax charged...


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when u have a family with 2-3 kids then u know...


Added on November 3, 2011, 4:48 pm

where did u c 115k?
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I think 115K is confirm, got it from my source.
its OTR price.. biggrin.gif


Added on November 3, 2011, 5:27 pmhttp://cbt.com.my/111103/just-launched-honda-cr-z-mt-is-rm115000-otr

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add about 20k for a K20A-R halfcut + installation would be nice @ RM135k


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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 3 2011, 05:33 PM)
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add about 20k for a K20A-R halfcut + installation would be nice @ RM135k
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RM135K get Polo GTI better

Another chick magnet car, As usual, honda good in design nice looking car.

But questions come, Quality ? reliability ?


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For starters this car is gonna kill off the already doomed forte koup which is rubbish imo. Hopeless power from the 2.0

To those who love mt,this is the car to get. I just got my polo, but in terms of looks this crz beats polo hands down. Performance not sure need to test drive but looks and feels awesome just by looking at the pics drool.gif
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Agree this car is all about LOOKS. You LOOK fast... but... at the end of the day its still a hybrid.

Is 115/120k somehting I will pay for a car that looks like this? Yes.

Will I buy this? No.. cause I feel I'm being ripped off by 15K for no reason.

If Insight is 120k, and CRZ is 120k, I'll go book a CRZ tomorrow.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 3 2011, 07:24 PM)
Agree this car is all about LOOKS. You LOOK fast... but... at the end of the day its still a hybrid.

Is 115/120k somehting I will pay for a car that looks like this? Yes.

Will I buy this? No.. cause I feel I'm being ripped off by 15K for no reason.

If Insight is 120k, and CRZ is 120k, I'll go book a CRZ tomorrow.
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add 15k to get a civic 2.0 with practical and high resale value.

and faster than this car biggrin.gif
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Guys,

You can view full catalog on Honda Malaysia website.
Go and visit Honda Malaysia website.
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er where is tax free for hybrid...
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suitable for single young rich guys who need to fetch amoi
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suitable for single young rich guys who need to fetch amoi
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i think amoi will choose vw over honda... lol...
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i think amoi will choose vw over honda... lol...
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they see VW car = uncle car.except beetle
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Nov 3 2011, 08:20 PM)
amoi know nuts about cars, except a rare few

they see VW car = uncle car.except beetle
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nowadays saw lots of amoi driving golf tsi, polo and even golf gti.
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nowadays saw lots of amoi driving golf tsi, polo and even golf gti.
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Amoi using golf to smoke your CRZ.
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CRZ!!!! can start booking liao ah. damn now start thinking again.
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amoi know nuts about cars, except a rare few

they see VW car = uncle car.except beetle
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in my world, ah moi talks about polo and golf, while guys talk about GTi.

not sure about your world, lol.
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very tempting ! should I stay loyal to my sss or move into the Power of Dreams bandwagon
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in my world, ah moi talks about polo and golf, while guys talk about GTi.

not sure about your world, lol.
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in the end no1 can afford it
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not bad
for this car i can buy it to drive on weekend with 6 MT to go jalan jalan

awaits review especially for its handling
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QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Nov 3 2011, 10:46 PM)
not bad
for this car i can buy it to drive on weekend with 6 MT to go jalan jalan

awaits review especially for its handling
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QUOTE(Renee @ Nov 3 2011, 05:45 PM)
RM135K get Polo GTI better

Another chick magnet car, As usual, honda good in design nice looking car.

But questions come, Quality ? reliability ?
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I am still waiting for my Golf GTI SE to be delivered coming from an ex civic FD driver here, but a CRZ + K20A ill smoke the hell out of the polo gti any day any where : )
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i find it amusing to see the CR-Z thread turning into some amoi thread or "might as well buy x car with same money/top up y amount of money"
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Compare with WV Polo? LOL....the current polo for malaysia market is the lowest spec,there's no fog lamp and no chrome garnish as in the brochure...look at the real car and its is UGLY. The interior is soooo boring and dull and if u tot it has good built quality think again,those buttons and clicks aren't that high end,nuff said....well of coz its better than most japs car... And its a different category too,if want to compare,bring up another 2 door,then we talking...Dun say those add 10k get this add 10k get that rubbish...who doesn't know

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well, on a side note, who can go test drive the CRZ and give us a review?
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i would love to but dunno where
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QUOTE(PrinceHamsap @ Nov 3 2011, 10:46 PM)
not bad
for this car i can buy it to drive on weekend with 6 MT to go jalan jalan

awaits review especially for its handling
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same thinking at first for wanting to buy it as weekend car..

but hang on a minute..

what is the purpose of having hybrid?? hmm.gif

it's to save fuel when u drive it EVERYDAY shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Nov 4 2011, 02:01 AM)
i would love to but dunno where
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asked my SA at kah motor melaka, 2 car will be delivered at december, and both are booked! anyway, this car CBU from Japan?
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Hybrid doesn't mean must save fuel la...There are many other who concern on the environment yet want a sporty drive...Has u driven o stand near a RX7? Even at idling tat engine emits lots of unburnt fuel...leaving kaw kaw carbon behind
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there is an Owner's thread for CRZ if you're serious.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2094804

but if you're tok kok about CRZ ,i guess this thread is more suitable. lol.

CRZ reviews are plenty in the internet too.
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with reflection as a malaysian....

a manual...
a hybrid, that was stated...tax exemption...
a 1.5
....and it cost more than a moronic 100k.

forgot to mention, the battery lifespan...using the same as Insight.

Honda just burned it's 1.5 segment with alot of 100k cars...that won't get bought by Malaysians, fact is ....there are better options out there with those prices...gud luck.



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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Nov 4 2011, 01:24 AM)
Compare with WV Polo? LOL....the current polo for malaysia market is the lowest spec,there's no fog lamp and no chrome garnish as in the brochure...look at the real car and its is UGLY. The interior is soooo boring and dull and if u tot it has good built quality think again,those buttons and clicks aren't that high end,nuff said....well of coz its better than most japs car... And its a different category too,if want to compare,bring up another 2 door,then we talking...Dun say those add 10k get this add 10k get that rubbish...who doesn't know
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seriously, polo looks terrible.... those who buy polo look for the brand onli... lol...

they proud to own a vw at the cheapest price...


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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Nov 4 2011, 08:17 AM)
with reflection as a malaysian....

a manual...
a hybrid, that was stated...tax exemption...
a 1.5
....and it cost more than a moronic 100k.

forgot to mention, the battery lifespan...using the same as Insight.

Honda just burned it's 1.5 segment with alot of 100k cars...that won't get bought by Malaysians, fact is ....there are better options out there with those prices...gud luck.
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polo 1.2? fiesta? 308t? c4? too bad none of them r 2 doors... lol...

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any honda showroom got display honda CRZ ?
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A manual car in KL traffic? Seriously? Good luck! thumbup.gif
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pls la MT with hydraulic assist is as easy as steppin the gas..
only msian like auto.
other countries Euro/german all uses MT mostly
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QUOTE(lovehewit @ Nov 4 2011, 05:32 PM)
A manual car in KL traffic? Seriously? Good luck!  thumbup.gif
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I'm driving a manual in daily rush hour traffic.
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I used to do that, until I can literally hear my knee creaking like an old door hinge when I pressed and depressed the clutch pedal. Not long after that, I got myself an auto. Take care of your left knee man smile.gif .
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Yeap, my first car was a manual too, back 10 years ago. The traffic wasn't as bad as now but I cramped my legs too often. Now? I really can't imagine. For example along the Jalan Tun Razak after working hour ard 7pm-8pm, Friday & raining. But up to you guys. Is your body and your money. Just becareful you don't get arthritis when old.

p/s: Travel from Kelana Jaya to Kepong without fail you will stuck in the jam after working hour (7pm-9pm), all the way to One Utama from Giant Kelana Jaya. I salute those who are driving manual EVERYDAY. If to and from I would have to go through such massive & killing traffic EVERYDAY in a MANUAL CAR, i rather give in the car for an AUTO, even if it were a MT Ferrari.

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QUOTE(squalluz @ Nov 4 2011, 06:07 PM)
I used to do that, until I can literally hear my knee creaking like an old door hinge when I pressed and depressed the clutch pedal. Not long after that, I got myself an auto. Take care of your left knee man  smile.gif .
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they won't know how much it hurts or costs to fix until it happens.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Nov 4 2011, 09:36 AM)
seriously, polo looks terrible.... those who buy polo look for the brand onli... lol...

they proud to own a vw at the cheapest price...


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polo 1.2? fiesta? 308t? c4? too bad none of them r 2 doors... lol...
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i agree polo looks terrible...but in malaysia...u should say..too bad cr-z is 2 door
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is this a crz bashing thread? hmmm.....dont like dont buy la.
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y got 2 crz thread? mod can merge ah?
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Yea,nowadays damn freaking jam...i once stuck at sungei wang plaza ktv turn to lowyat going to @live kl....just the f***ing place i jam 1 hour...wtf man
My old car using super single,yea...jam time u can keep hearing door bell sound and my left knee also sound like old door hinge
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honda crz for weekend car
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theres a cvt model, just wait =)
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QUOTE(ethan99 @ Oct 25 2011, 07:23 PM)
Ct can fit 4-5 persons for Crz confirmed 2adult only

Ct waiting list is too long many of my friends still not get the car including me!  I consider crz if the prices is 110k for manual I dun mind to order 1 for daily use to work since driving big car feel bored
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CT200H NO NEED TO WAIT ANYMORE. PLACE ORDER NOW GET CAR WITHIN 2 WEEKS. I MUST SAY THE CRZ IS A GREAT CAR FOR 2 PAX.
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QUOTE(leonloke @ Nov 10 2011, 08:02 PM)
CT200H NO NEED TO WAIT ANYMORE. PLACE ORDER NOW GET CAR WITHIN 2 WEEKS. I MUST SAY THE CRZ IS A GREAT CAR FOR 2 PAX.
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Hi Leon,

Do you get any promo for your CT200?
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QUOTE(azomic @ Nov 11 2011, 10:08 AM)
from gran turismo game  drool.gif
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Unfortunately the real crz is a "looks only car" with nothing to back it up.... if i see one on the road i sure cucuk him to see how he reacts tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 11 2011, 10:24 AM)
Unfortunately the real crz is a "looks only car" with nothing to back it up.... if i see one on the road i sure cucuk him to see how he reacts tongue.gif
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People buy specific car because he likes it and can afford it.
If you dont like, you dont buy...as simple as that.

Since when buying certain makes of car that you dont like become like a wrongdoer?

Weird..


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QUOTE(devinz @ Nov 11 2011, 10:34 AM)
People buy specific car because he likes it and can afford it.
If you dont like, you dont buy...as simple as that.

Since when buying certain makes of car that you dont like become like a wrongdoer?

Weird..
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So defensive meh? Anyway no worries.. as long as u like the car... but if u see a gray nissan coming up behind you.. just kinda move into the middle lane ya pls! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 11 2011, 11:11 AM)
So defensive meh? Anyway no worries.. as long as u like the car... but if u see a gray nissan coming up behind you.. just kinda move into the middle lane ya pls!  tongue.gif
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sure, we are all courteous people..

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post Dec 24 2011, 04:32 PM

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ur car bro?? if so where did you do the stripes and the mirrors?
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That's the Global Amity test drive unit...
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Till today, people still don't understand CRZ is strictly a 2 person car.

Real men drive manual.

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Dec 24 2011, 03:50 PM)
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IlDivinCodino, got sell this kit for CR-Z? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHII7QxeMEI Hehe


Added on December 24, 2011, 10:36 pmIt calls Silk Blaze

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Hahah... No bro. We distribute only authorised Modulo and Mugen kits smile.gif

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oh f***, so nice lol, the modulo looks nice edi. the carplate led is from u? This CR-Z is test unit or?
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How much does the Mugen body kit cost?
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So nice the car plate should be MX510 instead
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 11 2011, 10:24 AM)
Unfortunately the real crz is a "looks only car" with nothing to back it up.... if i see one on the road i sure cucuk him to see how he reacts tongue.gif
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Just like how garang neo cps looks but actually very slow..same case.. rclxms.gif
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It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau....

the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock)

I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly....

for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!!
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I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT...

I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress...

The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode)



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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 10:05 AM)
It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau....

the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock)  blink.gif

woah... insight got speed lock.... anyway, wat is speed lock?

I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly....

definitely will fly to the moon...

for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!!
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I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT...

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I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518IR2CBKa4  doh.gif

The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode)
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 10:05 AM)
It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau....

the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock)

I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly....

for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!!
_______________________________

I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT...

I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress...

The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode)
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 10:05 AM)
It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau....

the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock)

I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly....

for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!!
_______________________________

I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT...

I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress...

The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode)
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haha...ivtec but 12 and 16v operation.. it u old city's VTEC la..

wei...wake up la bro...bangun bangun

the insight and crz uses IVTEC la..variable valve timing on the INTAKE only.

Watch out CIVICS, ALTIS, LANCER, INSPIRA, honda insight is coming to smoke u, HONDA, the power of dreams
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QUOTE(kakashi... @ Nov 4 2011, 09:36 AM)
seriously, polo looks terrible.... those who buy polo look for the brand onli... lol...

they proud to own a vw at the cheapest price...


Added on November 4, 2011, 9:38 am

polo 1.2? fiesta? 308t? c4? too bad none of them r 2 doors... lol...
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Emm VW is not veri veri famous brand also, have to say VW only scirocco looks good .... VW got back in the game because of their new engine ... TurboSuperCharged Engine. TSI Engine, it is able to have efficient FC compare to NA engines, of course it has better performance than most of the cars around ..... though polo looks dull but its seriously fun to drive. U should see Polo GTI with ABT =D looks awesome. Between Polo can beat CRZ anytime .... anyhow u look at it CR-Z is just a hybrid + IVTEC. How possible for it to be able to beat a lightweight TurboSuperCharge Engine???
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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Nov 4 2011, 01:24 AM)
Compare with WV Polo? LOL....the current polo for malaysia market is the lowest spec,there's no fog lamp and no chrome garnish as in the brochure...look at the real car and its is UGLY. The interior is soooo boring and dull and if u tot it has good built quality think again,those buttons and clicks aren't that high end,nuff said....well of coz its better than most japs car... And its a different category too,if want to compare,bring up another 2 door,then we talking...Dun say those add 10k get this add 10k get that rubbish...who doesn't know
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But but but... It smoke a CRZ for breakfast...
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 01:38 PM)
But but but... It smoke a CRZ for breakfast...
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hahahha wah Pip one sentence shoot everything ><
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 01:38 PM)
But but but... It smoke a CRZ for breakfast...
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Aiseh bro.. Malaysian style "It looks fast, it sounds fast... but it isnt fast!" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Dec 27 2011, 01:30 PM)
haha...ivtec but 12 and 16v operation.. it u old city's VTEC la..

wei...wake up la bro...bangun bangun

the insight and crz uses IVTEC la..variable valve timing on the INTAKE only.

Watch out CIVICS, ALTIS, LANCER, INSPIRA, honda insight is coming to smoke u, HONDA, the power of dreams
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if you wanna learn on CR-Z and the engine here is the source
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/CR-Z/index.html

it is actually a VTEC 12-16 valve switch operation where low RPM one of the valve is de-activated
then you say this is OLD vtec.. haha Harlow!!! since when VTEC got NEW and OLD

VTEC stand for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) this is technology and what T brand have is a VTEC without Lift technology... and the i so called Intelligent is actually in Honda stand for Electronic Control...

now in i-VTEC honda the i is actually ECU VTEC switching instead if Hydraulic pressure switching. but in This CR-Z case the i stand for Engine fuel cut off operation where the engine can turn it self off similar to Honda Accord 3.5l i-VTEC VCM operation

and this CR-Z engine is actually the improve version of L15A VTEC engine....


Added on December 27, 2011, 2:24 pmhttp://www.honda.co.nz/cars/crz/tech/engine/ivtec-vtc

Another article that show how CR-Z ivtec come into play

now be a good boy go home and do your HOMEWORK before you post another stu*id comment!!!

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 02:20 PM)
if you wanna learn on CR-Z and the engine here is the source
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/CR-Z/index.html

it is actually a VTEC 12-16 valve switch operation where low RPM one of the valve is de-activated
then you say this is OLD vtec.. haha Harlow!!! since when VTEC got NEW and OLD

VTEC stand for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) this is technology and what T brand have is a VTEC without Lift technology... and the i so called Intelligent is actually in Honda stand for Electronic Control...

now in i-VTEC honda the i is actually ECU VTEC switching instead if Hydraulic pressure switching. but in This CR-Z case the i stand for Engine fuel cut off operation where the engine can turn it self off similar to Honda Accord 3.5l i-VTEC VCM operation

and this CR-Z engine is actually the improve version of L15A VTEC engine....


Added on December 27, 2011, 2:24 pmhttp://www.honda.co.nz/cars/crz/tech/engine/ivtec-vtc

Another article that show how CR-Z ivtec come into play

now be a good boy go home and do your HOMEWORK before you post another stu*id comment!!!
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Wow! Cool information!
But but but... cheap low end polo still eat CRZ for breakfast...
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 02:50 PM)
Wow! Cool information!
But but but... cheap low end polo still eat CRZ for breakfast...
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Of course a Polo will eat the CR-Z for breakfast. But if you're driving to downtown KL at peak hours, with 1/8 of a tank left, the CR-Z will leave you in the dust once you run out of petrol.

It's a hybrid. They try to market it as a sports car, but in the end, it's still a hybrid, and has to live with the limitations of a hybrid (weight, power, etc.). Doesn't mean it has no purpose though, it's just slow. Will be economical to run when it comes to petrol. That's about it...

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Crz have a very high end torque... you can feel the G-force when accelerating... not a Hard kick light those Turbo kakis.... so you dont just compare a car with just Horse power... there is Torque and Power over Weight...
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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Dec 27 2011, 02:55 PM)
Of course a Polo will eat the CR-Z for breakfast. But if you're driving to downtown KL at peak hours, with 1/8 of a tank left, the CR-Z will leave you in the dust once you run out of petrol.

It's a hybrid. They try to market it as a sports car, but in the end, it's still a hybrid, and has to live with the limitations of a hybrid (weight, power, etc.). Doesn't mean it has no purpose though, it's just slow. Will be economical to run when it comes to petrol. That's about it...
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But but but... KL downtown sure got many petrol station, cannot just go to any petrol station to pump?
You are taking the senario as polo has only 1/8 of a tank.
If you take the senario as in CRZ has only 1/8 of the battery power, lagi dangerous weih.
Low power = use more fuel. The underpowered 1.5l with low battery power will use more fuel to push the heavy CRZ.
Macam lagi cost ineffective lol!

This means a polo with 1/8 of a tank = still can provide max power needed.
But a CRZ with 1/8 of battery power, IMA become weak, have to rely on 1.5l petrol engine = lagi no power loh.

Please correct if my common sense is stupid.
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on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously

DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO...
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM)
on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously

DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO...
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First of all, it is not small. It is heavier than your regular Vios, which is 4 doors, 5 seats and a boot. Power is relative but with looks like that and not making 0-100 in 6 seconds, it is underpowered.

Having a CRZ looking like that and a hybrid is like going out with a supermodel who is doesn't want to sleep with you because she thinks that you are gay. That is as bad as a bad analogy goes... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 03:22 PM)
First of all, it is not small. It is heavier than your regular Vios, which is 4 doors, 5 seats and a boot. Power is relative but with looks like that and not making 0-100 in 6 seconds, it is underpowered.

Having a CRZ looking like that and a hybrid is like going out with a supermodel who is doesn't want to sleep with you because she thinks that you are gay. That is as bad as a bad analogy goes...  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM)
on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously

DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO...
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Between we are talking about POLO GTI or POLO ???? Polo GTI 1.4 tsi Polo 1.2. If CR-Z is running low on electric the 1.5l engine is confirmed to suck more petrol than a normal polo 1.2.
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Any polo with a budget of RM115K
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:30 PM)
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Means you are talking about Polo 1.2 TSI den ==

Polo 1.2 TSI
4 door - 109k

Polo GTI 1.4 TSI
2 Door - 140k (around there)

get yours specs right lea ==


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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM)
on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously

DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO...
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Answering back to your answer about the reviews .... Review are just for reference .... I drove before Polo and Ford Fiesta .... to tell u the truth Ford Fiesta is an Upgraded Myvii just the engine lolx. The interior is as dull as myvii, dam the dashboard is like crap if I remember correctly. Polo has a smaller but powerful engine, you can check fiesta spec http://www.ford.net.my/fiesta/specs_features.asp.

Polo 1.2 spec (Polo from 108k went up to 110k ++)
http://my.volkswagen.com/vwcms/master_publ...nical_data.html

Polo GTI 1.4 Spec
http://my.volkswagen.com/vwcms/master_publ...nical_data.html

Anyhow I look at it ... Polo has a better interior design than Ford Fiesta .... Ford Fiesta is just a so call exclusive Myvii .... I tested both of them =D and also alot of car price ranging from 70k - 140k == just that now CR-Z just came up I will find a day to test drive and let you know what I think about that car =D.

Oh yah the part you said its ugly and boring right ... I had that same feel but once I drove it shyt its a fun to drive car with a not so appealing body. =D

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Polo 1.2 TSI is within that price range.
1.2l TSI is so much more powerful than 1.5l with IMA.
No need test drive, any human with decent brain can figure it out.
I only compare the performance, not the outlook.

The very super beautiful sporty look CRZ kena smoked by 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior, best tak?
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 03:55 PM)
Polo 1.2 TSI is within that price range.
1.2l TSI is so much more powerful than 1.5l with IMA.
No need test drive, any human with decent brain can figure it out.
I only compare the performance, not the outlook.

The very super beautiful sporty look CRZ kena smoked by 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior, best tak?
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Best Bro =D, test drive for sheer joy and to tutup their mulut say never test drive before >.>.
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clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol.

the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol
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How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!!

you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!!
Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!!

I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that

1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers
2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!!

It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!!

you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD...

you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!!
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Dec 27 2011, 04:19 PM)
clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol.

the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol
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hey, try youtube for crz review from topgear and fifth gear, very cool car.

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:32 PM)
How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!!

you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!!
Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!!

I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that

1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers
2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!!

It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!!

you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD...

you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!!
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Bro.. does CRZ comes with ABS as well? Then you better double check if the brake disc have ceramic/carbon mixed in it.. otherwise liek you say the ABS will cause the brake disc to warp...

Sure expensive to change sweat.gif
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Yes the review all shown positive feedback and I'm actually surprise people that have no idea what is this car talk cr*p on it!!! look at the review all shown very positive and THEY drive it some even DRIFT it and some jokers come in and say it is under power , etc etc etc....

Look if you want to comment on a product at least have the courtesy of experience it 1st first hand... then lets talk....

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Adui i thought I'm in Polo thread...got real CRZ owner here to provide some review ah?

no Polo comment please.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:32 PM)
How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!!

you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!!
Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!!

I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that

1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers
2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!!

It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!!

you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD...

you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!!
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LoL you watch youtube for topgear review and 5th gear review of ford fiesta ma .... I just tell you wad my experience on the car only lea ==. Polo is faster than Ford Fiesta and it has a better interior design, I dunno why TopGear review ford fiesta is better. You have to know TopGear is abit racist and they will only say how good an aston martin is but never say how bad it is .... because Aston is a Britain car ==. So from here you might need to think that TopGear is actually biased towards German car =D just saying bro and yes I did test drive both of the car .... the spec sheet is for your reference since u trust reviews so much and can't get the facts right for 1.2 and 1.4 polo differences =D U didnt google them either so where did you get a 1.4 TSI Polo with 4 door hahahax =D

Now my question is did you ever test drive a polo/Ford Fiesta? =D

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 27 2011, 04:38 PM)
Bro.. does CRZ comes with ABS as well? Then you better double check if the brake disc have ceramic/carbon mixed in it.. otherwise liek you say the ABS will cause the brake disc to warp...

Sure expensive to change  sweat.gif
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Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken)
it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!!

yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice...
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Dec 27 2011, 04:19 PM)
clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol.

the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol
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But but but... a turbo in a kancil memang overpower woh. Nanti the kancil vibrate to hell and betul betul terbang oh!
Sometimes something no need to test also know which is more powerful...
AMD bullzoder vs Intel Celeron, do u need to test to see which is more faster?
Polo might be fugly in ur eye, or it might be inferior in ur mind, but it is definitely more powerful than a CRZ.
Are you or the sinkalingam + lingam said Polo is not more powerful than a CRZ?
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM)
Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken)
it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!!

yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice...
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??? So you dont even know about the car.
Are you saying the POLO is not more powerful than CRZ?
I just need u to answer this.
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QUOTE(EvoSiewPao @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM)
LoL you watch youtube for topgear review and 5th gear review of ford fiesta ma .... I just tell you wad my experience on the car only lea ==. Polo is faster than Ford Fiesta and it has a better interior design, I dunno why TopGear review ford fiesta is better. You have to know TopGear is abit racist and they will only say how good an aston martin is but never say how bad it is .... because Aston is a Britain car ==. So from here you might need to think that TopGear is actually biased towards German car =D just saying bro and yes I did test drive both of the car .... the spec sheet is for your reference since u trust reviews so much and can't get the facts right for 1.2 and 1.4 polo differences =D U didnt google them either so where did you get a 1.4 TSI Polo with 4 door hahahax =D

Now my question is did you ever test drive a polo/Ford Fiesta? =D
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Yep I did... nearly bought a Fiesta Sport for my self but that sales man cannot give me a good resale value for my car... I test drive Fiesta 3 times 2 sport and 1 sedan (sedan cause my sis is interested)

on the Polo I did not test drive Polo 1.4 cause I do not prefer 2 door... I did drove the Polo 1.2 but dont like it cause interior kinda dull (personal taste here) some how I prefer Fiesta interior but I agree plastiky!!! the dashboard is hard plastic not like Polo...

Polo is more quiet more of a conti feel to it... but at that time my aim was with Honda Insight cause it offer bigger boot space and they some how manage to get me a very good value for my car that I need to let go...

I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2...

on CRz I test drive it last week when I send my Insight to service... It is a very small car more of a 2 person car and 2 dog for back seat (not for any human) it is fast the acceleration is superb!!! apart from Manual shift I found this car very well balance and powerfull... but like all Honda the ride is kinda on the hard side and like all Honda as well you dont get much of a luxury feel (conti feel or those solid toyota feel) but you feel cheeky and fun!!!
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I am extremly confused here...Which Polo spec is Pip comparing to CRZ?
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 04:48 PM)
??? So you dont even know about the car.
Are you saying the POLO is not more powerful than CRZ?
I just need u to answer this.
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untill now you still dont know it!!!

if you want a POWERFULL CAR go get a KANCIL TURBO... it can potong any POLO tsi GTi hahaha!!!

all you people like you say POWERFULL here and POWERFULL there....

then what do you define by POWERFULL here...

Powerfull by the figure of Horse Power (PS) rating??? Torque??? Handling...???

WHAT??

if you want to argue for the sake of argument then stop wasting time...

I have forgot how many god damn airbag CRz have... all I know it have 2 Airbag on A pillars (1 on each side) the standard Passenger and Driver airbag... I cannot remember got Side airbag or not... that why I say 6 Airbag with reservations.... hahaha


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You dont even answer my big question.

QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM)
Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken)
it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!!

yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice...
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Oh fucuk you are the same guy who posted rubbish before.
So again, I think u pelan chaio pun tatau punya, mari sini cakap gugu saja.

Also, your favourite Top Gear said the Honda Insight: "Clever but pointless. Like teaching your dog to skateboard."
To me it means: "Dogs also duwan to drive 9 this so high car"
http://www.topgear.com/uk/honda/insight/verdict

More on Top Gear:
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:54 PM)
Yep I did... nearly bought a Fiesta Sport for my self but that sales man cannot give me a good resale value for my car... I test drive Fiesta 3 times 2 sport and 1 sedan (sedan cause my sis is interested)

on the Polo I did not test drive Polo 1.4 cause I do not prefer 2 door... I did drove the Polo 1.2 but dont like it cause interior kinda dull (personal taste here) some how I prefer Fiesta interior but I agree plastiky!!! the dashboard is hard plastic not like Polo...

Polo is more quiet more of a conti feel to it... but at that time my aim was with Honda Insight cause it offer bigger boot space and they some how manage to get me a very good value for my car that I need to let go...

I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2...

on CRz I test drive it last week when I send my Insight to service... It is a very small car more of a 2 person car and 2 dog for back seat (not for any human) it is fast the acceleration is superb!!! apart from Manual shift I found this car very well balance and powerfull... but like all Honda the ride is kinda on the hard side and like all Honda as well you dont get much of a luxury feel (conti feel or those solid toyota feel) but you feel cheeky and fun!!!
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LoL should have compared it with ford fiesta =D for me I don't think its worth buying Ford Fiesta because its kinda like an overrated myvii. (my opinion =D)

You should have tried test driving a polo 1.2 TSI because its also a fun to drive car =D. Yes have to agree that VW gives you more of a conti feel while honda gives you a more sporty feel. Different people different preferences~ will find some time to look into CR-Z

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Please state what wrong with that statement...

also what wrong a car that telling you how to save fuel... if you say it is stupid then all BMW are equally stupid of VW as well as all new cars come equipped with a trip computer that tell you how efficient you drive.... oh my!!!
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uuuuuhh kayyy....I'm gonna leave this derailed thread for now until someone post something that made some sense & relevant....
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QUOTE(EvoSiewPao @ Dec 27 2011, 05:03 PM)
LoL should have compared it with ford fiesta =D for me I don't think its worth buy Ford Fiesta because its kinda like an overrated myvii. (my opinion =D)

You should have tried test driving a polo 1.2 TSI because its also a fun to drive car =D. Yes have to agree that VW gives you more of a conti feel while honda gives you a more sporty feel. Different people different preferences~ will find some time to look into CR-Z
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Since you have driven this 2 car... you must try a CRz then you will know what I was trying to tell...

Some mindless self centered people only see things so narrow that they started to ignore things... heck they can even tell me Kancil can tapau ferrari... oh my!!!

I always think Just Horse power and Torque does not made a car more POWERFULL or better.. it is a combination of things

I always like Ford Fiesta although you say it is a BIG mivy haha (agree) cause the dashboard material and build really myvi quality... (hard plastic and silver painted middle dials-my god not even chrome) and overall I do not say POLO is sucx I like Polo but as I said not my cup of tea...

I do not condemn polo or Fiesta to me they are equally good.... but since this is CRz thread I believe people should get the true picture...
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haiya... some ppl like the car ma praise kau kau lo.
some1 who doesnt ma talk shit on it lo.

why so offensive? its just a forum, we just talk about cars. not flaming others who doesnt have the same opinion...

anyway, today i met a guy who was upgrading his 16" crz to 17" in a tire shop. we chat for abit, it is proven this car handling & performance is actually quite ok. but compromises with low practicality. well hes a single guy so literally crz suits him.

but talk about the look, its quite unique. i believe most youngster will like it, but prolly not the old timers. not to say its bad but it just isnt the classical sporty & elegant look like a aston vantage, haha. but it still a charming car in many ways.
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and some chap tole me that Honda Insight is so under power it cannot go up Genting hahaha so funny.....
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 05:09 PM)
Since you have driven this 2 car... you must try a CRz then you will know what I was trying to tell...

Some mindless self centered people only see things so narrow that they started to ignore things... heck they can even tell me Kancil can tapau ferrari... oh my!!!

I always think Just Horse power and Torque does not made a car more POWERFULL or better.. it is a combination of things

I always like Ford Fiesta although you say it is a BIG mivy haha (agree) cause the dashboard material and build really myvi quality... (hard plastic and silver painted middle dials-my god not even chrome) and overall I do not say POLO is sucx I like Polo but as I said not my cup of tea...

I do not condemn polo or Fiesta to me they are equally good.... but since this is CRz thread I believe people should get the true picture...
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Have you driven the original B16A CR-X which this CR-Z is suppose to spiritually replace? If you have not, then you do not understand why so many is opposed to the CR-Z. The previous CR-X weighs in less than 1000kg coupled with a 150hp B16A and it carries the name Sports Coupe. This new CR-Z is just a coupe.. it does not deserve the name Sports or Hot..

As I have mentioned before it does not have the power to match it looks. No doubt this car looks great but with such aggressive styling, it better have something to show under the bonnet.

Just like the new Toyota GT86. Instead of keeping to the paltry 1.6 engine that the old AE86 had, they put in a 200hp engine from Subaru. A hot coupe must have a hot engine to keep up, otherwise hot looks alone is not enough.

What this CR-Z needs is at least, minimum, the engine from the Civic Type-R. With 222hp and manual gearbox, it would be a very sweet car. That was what car enthusiast all around the world was expecting.. not some hybrid crap. At least Toyota/Subaru is doing it right with the GT86/RBZ.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 05:45 PM)
Have you driven the original B16A CR-X which this CR-Z is suppose to spiritually replace? If you have not, then you do not understand why so many is opposed to the CR-Z. The previous CR-X weighs in less than 1000kg coupled with a 150hp B16A and it carries the name Sports Coupe. This new CR-Z is just a coupe.. it does not deserve the name Sports or Hot..

As I have mentioned before it does not have the power to match it looks. No doubt this car looks great but with such aggressive styling, it better have something to show under the bonnet.

Just like the new Toyota GT86. Instead of keeping to the paltry 1.6 engine that the old AE86 had, they put in a 200hp engine from Subaru. A hot coupe must have a hot engine to keep up, otherwise hot looks alone is not enough.

What this CR-Z needs is at least, minimum, the engine from the Civic Type-R. With 222hp and manual gearbox, it would be a very sweet car. That was what car enthusiast all around the world was expecting.. not some hybrid crap. At least Toyota/Subaru is doing it right with the GT86/RBZ.
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That's the crux of the issue.. CRX was a legend.. at 900+ KG the handling was superb and the power to weight ratio lovely.

This replacement is like announcing a new Toyota Celica and give us a Hilux equivalent... doh.gif

Edit : although I must admit the car look sexy... if the pricing was equivalent to Insight (just liek US/Europe market), then I would have bought it despite the dissapointing performance...

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 27 2011, 05:49 PM)
That's the crux of the issue.. CRX was a legend.. at 900+ KG the handling was superb and the power to weight ratio lovely.

This replacement is like announcing a new Toyota Celica and give us a Hilux equivalent...  doh.gif

Edit : although I must admit the car look sexy... if the pricing was equivalent to Insight (just liek US/Europe market), then I would have bought it despite the dissapointing performance...
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Don't you know the Malaysian style in pricing. Anything with less doors and seats cost more. Just like the VW Scirocco where only in Malaysia it is sold at a higher price than the Golf GTi. It is suppose to be a cheaper car than the VW Golf GTi.

The CRX was a damn legend... they should have continued the alphabet and called this model the HONDA CR-Y. That is what we all did when we heard what they planned to do with it.
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So uh..., to add fuel to the fire...

Volkswagen Polo 1.2 TSI 1/4 Mile ET: 17.5, assuming flywheel horsepower = 103.563HP and curb weight = 2482lbs

Honda CR-Z 1/4 Mile ET: *17.26*, assuming flywheel horsepower = 122.303HP and curb weight = 2720lbs

I wouldn't say the CR-Z smokes the Polo, but it IS faster over 1/4 of a mile. Mathematically, the CR-Z will walk the Polo.

Calculator I used:

http://robrobinette.com/et.htm

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yes, agree with u.
but i cant keep silent anymore cause some fucuker keep mention hai-bird very powerful wo.....
i am not saying that hai-bird is not a good power train system, for petrol saving yes... for power up in such nice looking car in CRZ? nooooooooooo......
and the fucuker keep mention new car equip with brake disc that made of carbon and ceramic??? walao, u think your insect are those R8 level supercar ah???? which manufacturer give u carbon ceramic brake disc in 100k range vehicle?? u drive hai-bird until mind fucuk??
i used to quite ok with hybird vehicle , because it drive in city look like a trend car... now because of u this blind supporter , i call it hai-bird instead of hybird. because of u , make me very hate hai-bird vehicle now.....
somemore u mention got ABS will easily cause your brake disc warp? fucucucucucucucuk you....
do you even know what is ABS? full name Anti Brake-locking System. it help you release the brake to prevent your wheel locking during emergency/hard braking.
please study more about ABS,

cannot imagine this comment come from a 3x man..... i 1x YO also know better than you.....
if you don know the thing please don go other people thread and comment base on your so high knowledge, u ruining the next generation.
please continue hide in your haibird thread. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Dec 27 2011, 07:02 PM)
So uh..., to add fuel to the fire...

Volkswagen Polo 1.2 TSI 1/4 Mile ET: 17.5, assuming flywheel horsepower = 103.563HP and curb weight = 2482lbs

Honda CR-Z 1/4 Mile ET: *17.26*, assuming flywheel horsepower = 122.303HP and curb weight = 2720lbs

I wouldn't say the CR-Z smokes the Polo, but it IS faster over 1/4 of a mile. Mathematically, the CR-Z will walk the Polo.

Calculator I used:

http://robrobinette.com/et.htm
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this is so so so not accurate.

DSG for one shifts very fast

manual is operator dependent.

so many variables.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 27 2011, 07:34 PM)
yes, agree with u.
but i cant keep silent anymore cause some fucuker keep mention hai-bird very powerful wo.....
i am not saying that hai-bird is not a good power train system, for petrol saving yes... for power up in such nice looking car in CRZ? nooooooooooo......
and the fucuker keep mention new car equip with brake disc that made of carbon and ceramic??? walao, u think your insect are those R8 level supercar ah???? which manufacturer give u carbon ceramic brake disc in 100k range vehicle?? u drive hai-bird until mind fucuk??
i used to quite ok with hybird vehicle , because it drive in city look like a trend car... now because of u this blind supporter , i call it hai-bird instead of hybird. because of u , make me very hate hai-bird vehicle now.....
somemore u mention got ABS will easily cause your brake disc warp? fucucucucucucucuk you....
do you even know what is ABS? full name Anti Brake-locking System. it help you release the brake to prevent your wheel locking during emergency/hard braking.
please study more about ABS,

cannot imagine this comment come from a 3x man..... i 1x YO also know better than you.....
if you don know the thing please don go other people thread and comment base on your so high knowledge, u ruining the next generation.
please continue hide in your haibird thread.  shakehead.gif
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Do try to have a proper discussion without insulting anybody. Before you insult anybody for not knowing all the facts, please do ensure that you know them yourself.

ABS stands for Anti-lock Braking System.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:54 PM)
Yep I did... nearly bought a Fiesta Sport for my self but that sales man cannot give me a good resale value for my car... I test drive Fiesta 3 times 2 sport and 1 sedan (sedan cause my sis is interested)

on the Polo I did not test drive Polo 1.4 cause I do not prefer 2 door... I did drove the Polo 1.2 but dont like it cause interior kinda dull (personal taste here) some how I prefer Fiesta interior but I agree plastiky!!! the dashboard is hard plastic not like Polo...

Polo is more quiet more of a conti feel to it... but at that time my aim was with Honda Insight cause it offer bigger boot space and they some how manage to get me a very good value for my car that I need to let go...

I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2...

on CRz I test drive it last week when I send my Insight to service... It is a very small car more of a 2 person car and 2 dog for back seat (not for any human) it is fast the acceleration is superb!!! apart from Manual shift I found this car very well balance and powerfull... but like all Honda the ride is kinda on the hard side and like all Honda as well you dont get much of a luxury feel (conti feel or those solid toyota feel) but you feel cheeky and fun!!!
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 10:35 PM)
Do try to have a proper discussion without insulting anybody. Before you insult anybody for not knowing all the facts, please do ensure that you know them yourself.

ABS stands for Anti-lock Braking System.
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ok , i stated wrongly for the name.... sorry....
but i not mean to personal attack him, but just tired of watching him misleading other people.

somemore said mixture of carbon and ceramic easy warp.
but the purpose of mix with carbon and ceramic are designed to more durable during extreme heat condition 900c+.

calvin please read this and don misleading other people anymore!!!
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:54 PM)

I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2...

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Really??? I was thinking of getting a GTI.. since insight is as good as polo.. CRZ might as well pawn GTI... i think CRZ is more worth it then
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saw one exiting from curve turn out to ldp. it looks OK. the back takes some getting used to.

Overall for a sports hybrid - it looks awesome...but generally speaking.it should be called a hybrid sports car ( coz it is a hybrid car in a sports body). I dont think this car is fast..coz by the looks on sheet...its practical 2 seater...but like all 2 seater, it has to go minimum 0-100 kmh in 8 sec.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 28 2011, 01:11 AM)
ok , i stated wrongly for the name.... sorry....
but i not mean to personal attack him, but just tired of watching him misleading other people.

somemore said mixture of carbon and ceramic easy warp.
but the purpose of mix with carbon and ceramic are designed to more durable during extreme heat condition 900c+.

calvin please read this and don misleading other people anymore!!!
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What do you mean?

Are you saying Honda Insight does not come with carbon reinforced ceramic composite brake disc/pads?! I thought for sure Calvin_Ng say it does wor. I was so excited thinking such a nice brake set... was goign to look for Insight halfcut to swap their brakes too cry.gif
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Popcorn habis... Show seems to go on forever... One word of advice to calvin, pip, evo and those who love to argue on the net ... I love this quote btw... Here it goes.. No offense to those who are physically challenged though... ' arguing on the net is like winning the paraLympic... Even if u win, u are still retarded' happy new year all... Lol
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I find your post f**king annoying to read. Please spoiler your entire post.

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 28 2011, 01:11 AM)
ok , i stated wrongly for the name.... sorry....
but i not mean to personal attack him, but just tired of watching him misleading other people.

somemore said mixture of carbon and ceramic easy warp.
but the purpose of mix with carbon and ceramic are designed to more durable during extreme heat condition 900c+.

calvin please read this and don misleading other people anymore!!!
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Please state misleading...

no 1. You agree the current generation disc rotor is softer due to the mixture of metal... it do contain carbon and mixture the % of it no one knows (only manufacturer) of course according to your statement any mixture of carbon = to Disc Rotor made for Porsche or Nissan GTR standard.... there are many grades even Brake pads have many grade and sizes do get the fact rights....

no2. Yes the mixture of carbon into steel increase or improve the breaking condition I agree but that does not mean no wear and tear.... any friction generate heat and wear... do get that right too...

no3. Hybrid is a new technology not many people can accept, People resist to changes and this is not new... when Honda decided to stop the B16 series of Engine Honda Face alot of criticism and when K series engine was developed people complaint that engine is sucks cause Hp to Hp vs B16 is a JOKE... but K series engine proven it self that is because K series engine now focus on Balance between Torque and HP... the old B16 is purely Horse Power...

Yes Honda on previous CEO/MD change their direction for Hybrid technology as Euro market the EURO5/6/7/8 etc... more and more is getting more strict on CO2 emission... thats the main reason why Honda stop develop the NSX-R replacement (which is now back on track yay!!!) and Honda stop alot of Performance car.... (heck they even stop F1 dammit) so since the NEW MD/CEO of honda come into play he himself commit to fans the Type-R will make a come back... lets hope there is new exciting to come...


Added on December 28, 2011, 9:56 amAgree with bafukie

no point arguing...
BTW... if you for the sake of argument... get it right... all the facts has been supported by Technical crew of Honda... I used to work for Honda and I ask them cause my Honda city disc wrapped as well and this is the answer I get from them...

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Dec 28 2011, 09:04 AM)
Popcorn habis... Show seems to go on forever... One word of advice to calvin, pip, evo and those who love to argue on the net ... I love this quote btw... Here it goes.. No offense to those who are physically challenged though... ' arguing on the net is like winning the paraLympic... Even if u win, u are still retarded' happy new year all... Lol
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That's why I stopped posting since few posts ago...
I duwan to bring myself to same low as the retarded here.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 28 2011, 09:51 AM)
Please state misleading...

no 1. You agree the current generation disc rotor is softer due to the mixture of metal... it do contain carbon and mixture the % of it no one knows (only manufacturer) of course according to your statement any mixture of carbon = to Disc Rotor made for Porsche or Nissan GTR standard.... there are many grades even Brake pads have many grade and sizes do get the fact rights....

no2. Yes the mixture of carbon into steel increase or improve the breaking condition I agree but that does not mean no wear and tear.... any friction generate heat and wear... do get that right too...

no3. Hybrid is a new technology not many people can accept, People resist to changes and this is not new... when Honda decided to stop the B16 series of Engine Honda Face alot of criticism and when K series engine was developed people complaint that engine is sucks cause Hp to Hp vs B16 is a JOKE... but K series engine proven it self that is because K series engine now focus on Balance between Torque and HP... the old B16 is purely Horse Power...

Yes Honda on previous CEO/MD change their direction for Hybrid technology as Euro market the EURO5/6/7/8 etc... more and more is getting more strict on CO2 emission... thats the main reason why Honda stop develop the NSX-R replacement (which is now back on track yay!!!) and Honda stop alot of Performance car.... (heck they even stop F1 dammit) so since the NEW MD/CEO of honda come into play he himself commit to fans the Type-R will make a come back... lets hope there is new exciting to come...


Added on December 28, 2011, 9:56 amAgree with bafukie

no point arguing...
BTW... if you for the sake of argument... get it right... all the facts has been supported by Technical crew of Honda... I used to work for Honda and I ask them cause my Honda city disc wrapped as well and this is the answer I get from them...
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I think this video is misleading .. it says REGULAR cast iron disc brakes wear out quickily (compare to ceramic + carbon disc) .. like wat you told us ceramic + carbon mixture will wear out faster .. i think they shd remove it from youtube to make sure they dun mislead ppl with those info

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Dec 28 2011, 09:04 AM)
Popcorn habis... Show seems to go on forever... One word of advice to calvin, pip, evo and those who love to argue on the net ... I love this quote btw... Here it goes.. No offense to those who are physically challenged though... ' arguing on the net is like winning the paraLympic... Even if u win, u are still retarded' happy new year all... Lol
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if they debate we can learn something, no?

otherwise the forum is like.....er....dead?

of cos no name calling, IQ insulting kind of statement.
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I find your post f**king annoying to read. Please spoiler your entire post.
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tiew, u driving hai bird izit, no people ask u to read my post ah... y u read?

QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 28 2011, 09:51 AM)
Please state misleading...

no 1. You agree the current generation disc rotor is softer due to the mixture of metal... it do contain carbon and mixture the % of it no one knows (only manufacturer) of course according to your statement any mixture of carbon = to Disc Rotor made for Porsche or Nissan GTR standard.... there are many grades even Brake pads have many grade and sizes do get the fact rights....

no2. Yes the mixture of carbon into steel increase or improve the breaking condition I agree but that does not mean no wear and tear.... any friction generate heat and wear... do get that right too...

no3. Hybrid is a new technology not many people can accept, People resist to changes and this is not new... when Honda decided to stop the B16 series of Engine Honda Face alot of criticism and when K series engine was developed people complaint that engine is sucks cause Hp to Hp vs B16 is a JOKE... but K series engine proven it self that is because K series engine now focus on Balance between Torque and HP... the old B16 is purely Horse Power...

Yes Honda on previous CEO/MD change their direction for Hybrid technology as Euro market the EURO5/6/7/8 etc... more and more is getting more strict on CO2 emission... thats the main reason why Honda stop develop the NSX-R replacement (which is now back on track yay!!!) and Honda stop alot of Performance car.... (heck they even stop F1 dammit) so since the NEW MD/CEO of honda come into play he himself commit to fans the Type-R will make a come back... lets hope there is new exciting to come...


Added on December 28, 2011, 9:56 amAgree with bafukie

no point arguing...
BTW... if you for the sake of argument... get it right... all the facts has been supported by Technical crew of Honda... I used to work for Honda and I ask them cause my Honda city disc wrapped as well and this is the answer I get from them...
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no1, why did u said i agree current generation disc rotor is softer?? where i state it??

no2, mixture of carbon and ceremic into steel not only improve stopping power, it designed to last longer and not easy warp during those 24 hours Le Mans race etc.... those brake disc easily up to 900c+ of cause it got tear and wear when come with friction.

no3. i have no hard feeling to haibird.... some how got a bit love it. but it was your pelan chaio comment make me hate hai bird , IT WAS YOU!!!

the THEM that u mention are you means some SKL mechanic or what?? if u show some technical data about city brake disc made with carbon and ceramic material i will keep my mouth shut.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 28 2011, 11:37 AM)
if they debate we can learn something, no?

otherwise the forum is like.....er....dead?

of cos no name calling, IQ insulting kind of statement.
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we always login this forum digging into the threads we like hoping to see more info about cars,
but i was let down by almost 3 pages of trolling & pointless arguement in this crz thread.

there are hundreds or thousands of ppl who are passionate in the car come here to share thier interest, we are not here to spend precious time reading all your childish act.

no wonder all the hardcore car enthusiasts leave lyn to join zerotohundred. all we left here are mostly kids trashing in /k/ or gaming forum and come to F&F talk about cars acting like they know it all.

well, stop talking about advance tech like ceramic brakes, i bet 99% of those who talk like a pro cant even tell the fondamental stuff like what differ between brake fluid dot3, 4, and 5 without googling.

enuf said

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QUOTE(yamato @ Dec 28 2011, 04:56 PM)
we always login this forum digging into the threads we like hoping to see more info about cars,
but i was let down by almost 3 pages of trolling & pointless arguement in this crz thread.

there are hundreds or thousands of ppl who are passionate in the car come here to share thier interest, we are not here to spend precious time reading all your childish act.

no wonder all the hardcore car enthusiasts leave lyn to join zerotohundred. all we left here are mostly kids trashing in /k/ or gaming forum and come to F&F talk about cars acting like they know it all.

well, stop talking about advance tech like ceramic brakes, i bet 99% of those who talk like a pro cant even tell the fondamental stuff like what differ between brake fluid dot3, 4, and 5 without googling.

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Can crz win fd2? ( Starting another debate )
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Can crz win fd2? ( Starting another debate )
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can civic smoke altis 2.0?
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 28 2011, 05:56 PM)
can civic smoke altis 2.0?
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because i have around 50kg++ soundproof on the civic.
So very heavy.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 28 2011, 05:56 PM)
can civic smoke altis 2.0?
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More important is can Camry smoke Accord?
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1.3 ima already smoked altis.

1.5 ima? (in crz) how? biggrin.gif
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Then who willing to take his 1.3 ima to test out with my FD ?

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Then who willing to take his 1.3 ima to test out with my FD ?
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QUOTE(Renee @ Dec 28 2011, 06:11 PM)
Then who willing to take his 1.3 ima to test out with my FD ?
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watch out, ur FD1 will get eaten alive.

his 1.3IMA is as good as the 2.0 Dvvt-i brows.gif


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But the rules is we must open up the bonnet and test run.
Avoid aerodynamic marr...wink.gif
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I like this review on CRZ:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN3GpcB_g0I&feature=related

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LoL == emm CR-Z is 6-MT rite??? My fren shared this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5y4OkOx2E&feature=share

about 5 different spec ECO Modded Cars ..... end up ..... =D go watch ..... CR-Z is not as fast as they said ....

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QUOTE(EvoSiewPao @ Dec 29 2011, 10:49 AM)
LoL == emm CR-Z is 6-MT rite??? My fren shared this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5y4OkOx2E&feature=share

about 5 different spec ECO Cars ..... end up ..... =D go watch ..... CR-Z is not as fast as they said ....
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stop using the youtube as example ... ppl already tested the car... insights is 2.0 dvvt power..
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 29 2011, 10:50 AM)
stop using the youtube as example ... ppl already tested the car... insights is 2.0 dvvt power..
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LoL its for fun to watch la bro ><
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the CRZ drive sucks

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the CRZ drive sucks
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i wonder if it is still worthwhile sharing opinion in this thread after all these bashing...

anyway, test drove the car, being a candidate together with the Polo 1.2 TSI to replace the boring MPV i drive to work day in & out. Main consideration is the price of 110k range that I can afford and fuel saving.

CR-Z definitely a nice looking car. I've come to like the design a lot. Interior looks good with a good strike of balance. Polo 1.2 TSI pales in the sense the dial is boring. The car gives a firm driving feel. while enough for city driving, it leaves people wanting more power from a supposed sporty hot-hatch like this. The sports mode's throttle respond, to me, feels a bit fake. You get the added throttle respond sound with more fuel fed in I guess, but the car doesn't accelerate as fast as it sounds =_=

anyway, generally I think there is some point to like the CR-Z with its current price point, practicallity aside. Of course I would have like it to be priced nearer to insight or maybe RM105k would be good. But if it wasn't for the hybrid with the tax cut, at a higher price point, I want my usual Honda Type R feed from this car! else its nothing but failure


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jc' racing coming out with CR-Z supercharger project car.
Let's see how the performance act

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QUOTE(Renee @ Dec 28 2011, 06:11 PM)
Then who willing to take his 1.3 ima to test out with my FD ?
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1.3 vs 1.8/2.0 .... how about i drive a 328 vs ur fd?
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Dec 29 2011, 03:59 PM)
1.3 vs 1.8/2.0 .... how about i drive a 328 vs ur fd?
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i think because calvin_ng says his car as powerful as altis 2.0 DVVT only Renee ask for a test run with his FD ..


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It is not a slow car... the engine may be small (aka 1.5l) but it is a ivtec engine with 12v and 16v (Vtec) operation which is a very powerful power plant and couple with a IMA hybrid motor I cannot imagene how many car can tapau....

the stock Insight 1.3 already can reach 180kmh speed lock speed (japs car got 180kmh speed lock)

I cannot imagene a small 2 door car with 1.5 + IMA it will fly....

for those who BASH hybrid and say this is a low performance car really... did you go and test drive the car... get your facts right before start to bash else it make you look so stu*id!!!
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I own an Insight and I can tell you the acceleration performance is on PAR with a Altis 2.0 Dual VVTi CVT...

I have a Traffic light Drag with him (a friend of mine) and he is impress...

The setting on Insight (Econ Off / Gear on S-sport mode)
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Dec 29 2011, 03:59 PM)
1.3 vs 1.8/2.0 .... how about i drive a 328 vs ur fd?
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Honda CR-Z, Honda Insight, Honda EX5

U talking nonsense, i also talking nonsense.

Toyota, Honda, Suzuki, Barichello, Montoya, Micheal Jordon.

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1.3 vs 1.8/2.0 .... how about i drive a 328 vs ur fd?
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328 ah? Come I test with u thumbup.gif

Pls follow the thread before shooting off a reply bro

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328 ah? Come I test with u  thumbup.gif
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here comes a new challenger.

*where is my popcorn.....*
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here comes a new challenger.

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NeeeeSann .. chanllenging 328 ??? hahaha
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NeeeeSann .. chanllenging 328 ??? hahaha
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cry.gif  damn u K3 look down opn Japanese car... German sure better meh!  mad.gif
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cry.gif  damn u K3 look down opn Japanese car... German sure better meh!  mad.gif
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if i drive crz, ppl cucuk me, i'm gonna step on the brakes.
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if i drive crz, ppl cucuk me, i'm gonna step on the brakes.
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wait till u got the car first, and you talk again biggrin.gif
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even if i'm not driving one now, when ppl lansi cucuk me, i usually just step on the brakes.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 29 2011, 04:40 PM)
328 ah? Come I test with u  thumbup.gif

Pls follow the thread before shooting off a reply bro
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Similar response back at u.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Dec 29 2011, 05:37 PM)
if i drive crz, ppl cucuk me, i'm gonna step on the brakes.
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Really? Tats so macho...lol.... Let's see u do that with a trailer...lol
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Dec 29 2011, 06:35 PM)
even if i'm not driving one now, when ppl lansi cucuk me, i usually just step on the brakes.
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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Dec 29 2011, 06:35 PM)
even if i'm not driving one now, when ppl lansi cucuk me, i usually just step on the brakes.
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Ppl who bang u will just need to bayar RM300 then claim insurance saja.
But ur car value drop dramatically lo because already kena accident before.
If I'm the one who have to bang u, I will bang harder and press brake later because since I already bang u and have to claim insurance, might as well bang harder lol.
Padan muka to those who brake instead of just move aside when kena tiong.

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Dec 29 2011, 06:35 PM)
even if i'm not driving one now, when ppl lansi cucuk me, i usually just step on the brakes.
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 29 2011, 09:03 PM)
Ppl who bang u will just need to bayar RM300 then claim insurance saja.
But ur car value drop dramatically lo because already kena accident before.
If I'm the one who have to bang u, I will bang harder and press brake later because since I already bang u and have to claim insurance, might as well bang harder lol.
Padan muka to those who brake instead of just move aside when kena tiong.
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Those like to tiong one the front sure alot damage dy one ... might as well give one satu besar one righT? den claim insurance straight ! get all new parts lolx !
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 29 2011, 09:03 PM)
Ppl who bang u will just need to bayar RM300 then claim insurance saja.
But ur car value drop dramatically lo because already kena accident before.
If I'm the one who have to bang u, I will bang harder and press brake later because since I already bang u and have to claim insurance, might as well bang harder lol.
Padan muka to those who brake instead of just move aside when kena tiong.
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Kena tiong usually those slow poke driver on the fast lane buat kacau only... if your car is slow... move aside whistling.gif
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 29 2011, 10:34 PM)
Kena tiong usually those slow poke driver on the fast lane buat kacau only... if your car is slow... move aside  whistling.gif
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Im sure hybrid with 2.0 dvvt is not slow
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 30 2011, 01:05 AM)
Im sure hybrid WHICH ON PAR WITH 2.0 dvvt is not slow
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if i drive crz, ppl cucuk me, i'm gonna step on the brakes.
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Hahaha.....funny..very new car then u intentionally let it involve in an accident? omg..........

the tiongster might be with a 15 years old satria gsr or something....dont care tht much.........while the crz owner....

who knows maybe till chassis bengkok, then consider total lost..good for u...
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Dec 30 2011, 08:13 AM)
Hahaha.....funny..very new car then u intentionally let it involve in an accident? omg..........

the tiongster might be with a 15 years old satria gsr or something....dont care tht much.........while the crz owner....

who knows maybe till chassis bengkok, then consider total lost..good for u...
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last time i kena ppl like this, but then, my car is faster and able to brake better than his car la.

some crappy old kind of car.

so i guess ppl that intentionally step on brake are driving crappy car.

good luck to them, because there are ppl out there purposely wanna bang ppl, to claim insurance la, or to change bodykit.


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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 30 2011, 09:30 AM)
last time i kena ppl like this, but then, my car is faster and able to brake better than his car la.

some crappy old kind of car.

so i guess ppl that intentionally step on brake are driving crappy car.

good luck to them, because there are ppl out there purposely wanna bang ppl, to claim insurance la, or to change bodykit.
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Didn't they know when banged from behind it may cause their car to skid into the opposite lane where a lorry might hit them... sweat.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 30 2011, 10:27 AM)
Didn't they know when banged from behind it may cause their car to skid into the opposite lane where a lorry might hit them... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Dec 30 2011, 10:27 AM)
Didn't they know when banged from behind it may cause their car to skid into the opposite lane where a lorry might hit them... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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So when u bang, u bang at the rear left side to make the car infront goes to the opposite lane.
If he tak mati kena langgar lorry, he will be scared to hit brake if kena tiong by cars again lo. (Assuming if he no cacat after the accident and still can drive car la...)
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i havent see any CRZ on the road yet. how come
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Saw 1 just now passing 1U.
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Wow this thread has been so quiet for more than a week. Anyway, does anyone of you here knows how long is the waiting period for this car? Thanks.
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when auto will come?
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i just saw a white crz at JB jalan serampang yesterday with plate JNG.....
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today go to test drive a CRZ..
1st gear 60km/h
2nd gear 90km/h
3rd gear 130km/h

after that need to look at the road liao.....
it's a fun car to drive man...
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QUOTE(AMDunFreak @ Jan 17 2012, 08:01 PM)
today go to test drive a CRZ..
1st gear 60km/h
2nd gear 90km/h
3rd gear 130km/h

after that need to look at the road liao.....
it's a fun car to drive man...
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Bro, u sure anot? 1st gear 60km/h? Ur seriously overstressing the gearbox... doh.gif doh.gif
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I wonder why the CRZ wasn't equipped with the Honda City's i-VTEC engine which has 120bhp. As far as I know, the CRZ engine outputs only 111bhp & the electric motor contributes another 11bhp.

With the City's i-VTEC engine, the figure would be like 120bhp + 11bhp thus a total of 131bhp.
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Lol. ... Lol ... Then The Prius c will be with 73 + 61 = 134bhp lo? and the Prius with whooping 98+80 hp lo?.... Lol...
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I think with Manual shift the experience is different... also CRZ I believe is lighter than PriusC
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Bro, u sure anot? 1st gear 60km/h? Ur seriously overstressing the gearbox...  doh.gif  doh.gif
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look at the gear and speed i tot i was looking at impreza sti, lol.
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Manual gearbox can take the stress no worries
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 18 2012, 09:02 AM)
look at the gear and speed i tot i was looking at impreza sti, lol.
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lol...

QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 18 2012, 09:25 AM)
Manual gearbox can take the stress no worries
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more like an ameteur driver is trying to kill the car....
With 5th gear, the car can fly to the moon already...
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60 on gear 1.... then the Hybrid system in it is useless loh... becoz it cant help u safe any fuel. And maybe can ask them to remove the battery if drive like tat becoz ur car we become way more lighter without the battery and faster too.
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 18 2012, 01:48 AM)
Lol. ...  Lol ...   Then The Prius c will be with 73 + 61 = 134bhp lo?  and the Prius with whooping 98+80 hp lo?....  Lol...
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The calculation for Hybrid's total horsepower is calculated that way (Petrol engine bhp + Electric motor bhp). The petrol engine and the electric motor will work in unison in order to achieve their max horsepower. Do tell us why are you laughing out loud?

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 18 2012, 12:40 PM)
60 on gear 1.... then the Hybrid system in it is useless loh... becoz it cant help u safe any fuel. And maybe can ask them to remove the battery if drive like tat becoz ur car we become way more lighter without the battery and faster too.
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Not true though... some may say that if you into high performance run Hybrid is useless.... not really... why... simple

I drive a Honda City IDSI 1.5.. when I do a high speed run I can only go as fast as 160-170km/h

on a Insight 1.3 I have achieve speed of 200km/h

now both car uses IDSI engine... Insight ivtec is actually Valve cut off technology put in...

why Insight can go 200?? it is because the Electric Motor has been pushing Torque into the car... and the 1.3l engine is maintaining the speed...

also when you press hard like this on a non-hybrid you will get only 4-5km/l for a Hybrid you will get 10km/l

it do contribute to fuel saving.... but if you press your car so hard dont expect to get 20km/l lah...
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wont the battery be empty in awhile like tat.....


Anyway i also dunno much about this hybrid battery thing. Gonna do more research dun want kena laugh by ppl.

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It wont empty... as I said the Motor only boost the torque (this is where it take the electricity) then when the engine hold the speed it actually go into recharging mode to keep the battery charged so if you boost it again there is power to go...


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QUOTE(Thrust @ Jan 18 2012, 04:49 PM)
The calculation for Hybrid's total horsepower is calculated that way (Petrol engine bhp + Electric motor bhp). The petrol engine and the electric motor will work in unison in order to achieve their max horsepower. Do tell us why are you laughing out loud?
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Sorry ah... I donna about this... Sorry... So can Toyota advertise the Prius have 178hp and the prius c have 134hp total then? Enlighten me ha.. Thank you...
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QUOTE(psycho1 @ Jan 18 2012, 01:13 AM)
Bro, u sure anot? 1st gear 60km/h? Ur seriously overstressing the gearbox...  doh.gif  doh.gif
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i think i'm correct... but not 100% because i only test drive one round...
if i'm wrong, please forgive my mistake...
1st to 3rd gear all up to 6k plus rpm and i noticed the engine got cut off due to over rev??
after that 4th gear i can't look at the RPM meter already as i need to look at the road due to the speed...

my other friend said he tested up to 190km/h...
i can't achieve that because of traffics on road...


QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 18 2012, 09:02 AM)
look at the gear and speed i tot i was looking at impreza sti, lol.
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i think impreza STI can go more than that...


QUOTE(psycho1 @ Jan 18 2012, 11:24 AM)
lol...
more like an ameteur driver is trying to kill the car....
With 5th gear, the car can fly to the moon already...
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i am testing whether the car is fun to drive or not...
indeed, it is fun to drive with high RPM...

QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 18 2012, 12:40 PM)
60 on gear 1.... then the Hybrid system in it is useless loh... becoz it cant help u safe any fuel. And maybe can ask them to remove the battery if drive like tat becoz ur car we become way more lighter without the battery and faster too.
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just for the sake of testing the power.. not for fuel economy
if i buy one, 95% of the time i'll be driving in fuel saving mode
while 5% of the time drive fast to release tension or when in bad mood..
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QUOTE(AMDunFreak @ Jan 18 2012, 08:47 PM)
i think i'm correct... but not 100% because i only test drive one round...
if i'm wrong, please forgive my mistake...
1st to 3rd gear all up to 6k plus rpm and i noticed the engine got cut off due to over rev??
after that 4th gear i can't look at the RPM meter already as i need to look at the road due to the speed...

my other friend said he tested up to 190km/h...
i can't achieve that because of traffics on road...
i think impreza STI can go more than that...
i am testing whether the car is fun to drive or not...
indeed, it is fun to drive with high RPM...
just for the sake of testing the power.. not for fuel economy
if i buy one, 95% of the time i'll be driving in fuel saving mode
while 5% of the time drive fast to release tension or when in bad mood..
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for JDM, speed cut 180 smile.gif u need to remove speed cut.

well, lets just say, the 1.3 hybrid smoked sports car already.

and 1.5 even power. notworthy.gif

then....prius 1.8 pwn all? yawn.gif notworthy.gif
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Hahaha... They can reach tat speed but the amount of time needed to achieve tat speed is like dun know how long.
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QUOTE(300078 @ Jan 18 2012, 05:08 PM)
wont the battery be empty in awhile like tat.....
Anyway i also dunno much about this hybrid battery thing. Gonna do more research dun want kena laugh by ppl.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 18 2012, 05:22 PM)
It wont empty... as I said the Motor only boost the torque (this is where it take the electricity) then when the engine hold the speed it actually go into recharging mode to keep the battery charged so if you boost it again there is power to go...
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From my experience going top speed with econ off on the Insight, once i step on throttle @ around 100km/h, rpm jump to 5.5k, assist needle goes to full, the car will surge quite fast to around 160km/h when the battery level drop to half/ slightly below half. Then the engine will be forced to charge the battery with charge needle drop 1/4 from center. If i continue to floor the pedal, the charging will stop but the car will get limited assist, needle only slightly up from middle and the battery will immediately charged anytime i reduce throttle pressure.

Means at 160-170km/h, give the car some nice 10-15 seconds charge and the battery level will show 1 bar below full, floor the throttle again, rpm will climb to 6k, and u'll be surprise the car can easily pass 180, 190, but i notice whenever the battery depleted and the car going to charging state, the top speed would reduce by 2-3km/h.

And that 200km/h easier to achieve when the highway is going downhill. haha... all car like that what?

QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 18 2012, 05:55 PM)
Sorry ah...  I donna about this... Sorry...   So can Toyota advertise the Prius have 178hp and the prius c have 134hp total then?  Enlighten me ha.. Thank you...
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Its slightly complicated than just add up the numbers. There were some overlap in power delivery between combustion engine and electric motor. The actual total output (calculation) were also different between toyota's HSD and honda's IMA. From my readings, IMA approach is more on 'as light as possible' with normal CVT, brushless single motor while HSD is more heavier & more complicated drivetrain with planetary gearset etc. The advantage of HSD is it could do extended slow, full battery run with engine shut off (where its get more range), while IMA with smaller capacity battery quite limited in that area. For high speed, IMA seems more suitable with low resistance drive-train and low friction internal while Toyota HSD felt heavier and resist to be pushed faster. Try it. The most comfortable high speed for Prius is around 140-150kmh, while IMA Insight felt light on throttle @ 160km/h. As usual, Honda make it drivers likes to drive fast, while Toyota make its drivers like to drive slow.

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I have my Insight top speed at Seremban-KL route... I doubt there is any downhill run... the speed is 200km/h and it is not slow to approach that speed... I'm quite surprice at the performance...
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i really underestimate the power of hybrid..... looking forward for someone to go for a CRZ and do a review here.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 18 2012, 11:14 PM)
I have my Insight top speed at Seremban-KL route... I doubt there is any downhill run... the speed is 200km/h and it is not slow to approach that speed... I'm quite surprice at the performance...
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Yeah not much downhill there but i guess u play your momentum quite well...
I prefer Elite highway for top speed run.
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Hmm.... not much momentum but the IMA motor do provide alot of torque...

you can feel when you floor the accelerator the IMA assist needle go all the way to full assist to boost the RPM to optimim and let the CVT gear box to do the magic... overall i'm actually impressed that a 1.3 and do 200!!!
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Insight with 1.3 IMA can reach 200 km/h...

How about crz?

Actually, I am waiting for new Civic Hybrid which is using 1.5 liter IMA...
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I doubt CIVIC hybrid will come... you maybee can expect a Insight 1.5... but I think 1.3 is actually pretty good...

I have no idea a CRZ how fast it can go but should be quite fast... summore 6 speed manual the pulling power and the grip of the manual gearbox will be AWESOME...
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If they can make the car acceleration fully run on battery then it should b real fast just like the battery version lotus tat outrun the petrol version.

But currently it is still a joke compare to the legendary cr-x
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But the Legendary CR-X will fail euro emission test 1/2/3/4/5/6 hahaha

also that car is a FUEL guzzer... but all performance car do that.... so it is a norm... the CR-Z approach is slightly different keeping up with time....

Fuel is quite an expensive liquid...
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QUOTE(LittleBear @ Jan 18 2012, 10:51 PM)
Pls refer to this link

http://www.toyota.com.my/prius/specifications.dot

Look under performance: total power output which is 100KW or 136bhp. That is the combined power output for petrol engine & electric motor. They do advertise it that way.
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 19 2012, 10:35 AM)
If they can make the car acceleration fully run on battery then it should b real fast just like the battery version lotus tat outrun the petrol version.

But currently it is still a joke compare to the legendary cr-x
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when crz was under concept development, honda already marked it as "sporty hybrid" not "sports hybrid"
it is focus on fun handling with hybrid gimmick. they didnt give a damn on horsepower nor 0-100.

that alone disappoint many crx enthusiasts, but come on guys lets move on rather than nagging... if u wan a seriously fast FF coupe/hatch, there is always type-r in thier catelgue, integra-R for example.

ayrton senna is the legend that no one can replaced for decades or even centuries, but if we keep comparing f1 drivers nowadays to senna then we should have disband the race cause literally all these drivers are nothing compare to senna.
schumacher & alonso are all good but not as legendary as him... so shall we keep praising & worship senna like god & crap on every other drivers which arent as good as him?

the world will not change itself to suit us, but we shall change ourselves to suit the world or we will be left behind.

do u really want to live in the pass like that? your pick...

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 19 2012, 10:35 AM)
If they can make the car acceleration fully run on battery then it should b real fast just like the battery version lotus tat outrun the petrol version.

But currently it is still a joke compare to the legendary cr-x
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QUOTE(yamato @ Jan 20 2012, 09:08 AM)
when crz was under concept development, honda already marked it as "sporty hybrid" not "sports hybrid"
it is focus on fun handling with hybrid gimmick. they didnt give a damn on horsepower nor 0-100.

that alone disappoint many crx enthusiasts, but come on guys lets move on rather than nagging... if u wan a seriously fast FF coupe/hatch, there is always type-r in thier catelgue, integra-R for example.

ayrton senna is the legend that no one can replaced for decades or even centuries, but if we keep comparing f1 drivers nowadays to senna then we should have disband the race cause literally all these drivers are nothing compare to senna.
schumacher & alonso are all good but not as legendary as him... so shall we keep praising & worship senna like god & crap on every other drivers which arent as good as him?

the world will not change itself to suit us, but we shall change ourselves to suit the world or we will be left behind.

do u really want to live in the pass like that? your pick...
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I dont think its a joke. Honda is producing both, Insight & CRZ. If Insight can easily hit 200km/h (some foreigners even up to 205-210), I'm quite confident they tuned the CRZ to edge slightly more. Or at least both have similar tops but CRZ accelerate much faster. Maybe the owners of the new CRZ still not yet master the art to bring it to the absolute top speed (as stick shift and clutched car need more skills) and maybe most of the units on the road is still very new and the engine is not loose enough for absolute top speed.
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One word...... Legend are meant to be break..... so
A NEW LEGEND WILL BE MADE
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Do you all think this car is worth to buy? laugh.gif 2 doors and I think normally car with 2 doors mean they don't like to pick passenger blink.gif ??I saw the website with OTR Price is RM115k. Maybe will get RM3k discount if there is any promotion I assume. No?

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Some people Pay RM3 million for a 2 door Ferrari... they think it worth it smile.gif

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for those.. RM3M and RM30,000 make not much different for them...
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Some people Pay RM3 million for a 2 door Ferrari... they think it worth it smile.gif
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Ya man! We all know Honda ys absolutely in the same league as a Ferrari for shure!
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 20 2012, 11:26 AM)
Ya man! We all know Honda ys absolutely in the same league as a Ferrari for shure!
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they are.. more or less.. Ferarri kalah to McLaren in HOnda Engine many years... tongue.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 20 2012, 11:26 AM)
Ya man! We all know Honda ys absolutely in the same league as a Ferrari for shure!
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You still dont get the point...

People are willing to pay millions for things they like...

so the argument... if CRZ worth it???

then the answer is... DO YOU LIKE IT!!!
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 20 2012, 11:42 AM)
You still dont get the point...

People are willing to pay millions for things they like...

so the argument... if CRZ worth it???

then the answer is... DO YOU LIKE IT!!!
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jan 20 2012, 11:35 AM)
What have torque gotta do with topspeed?!

Oh ya... this is the same sor hai that claims new brakes in our sedan car is a blend of carbon + ceramic therefore easier to warp due to ABS's constant pulsing  doh.gif
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Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list) blush.gif My rankings are as follows.

Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself.

1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive
2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good.
3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected.
4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so.


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QUOTE(sensation1234 @ Jan 20 2012, 12:18 PM)
Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list)  blush.gif  My rankings are as follows.

Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself.

1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive
2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good.
3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected.
4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so.
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QUOTE(sensation1234 @ Jan 20 2012, 12:18 PM)
Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list)  blush.gif  My rankings are as follows.

Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself.

1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive
2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good.
3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected.
4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so.
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hahaha .. comparing a 1.3 engine with turbos and 1.8 engines. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(sensation1234 @ Jan 20 2012, 01:18 PM)
Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list)  blush.gif  My rankings are as follows.

Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself.

1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive
2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good.
3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected.
4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so.
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how about mazda 3 2.0? hmmm........
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QUOTE(kienu @ Jan 20 2012, 12:32 PM)
how about mazda 3 2.0? hmmm........
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Not in her list. Anywhere to test the CRZ? The showroom at PJ does not have a test car.


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hahaha  .. comparing a 1.3 engine with turbos and 1.8 engines.  rclxms.gif
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Who cares. As I said if you don't like it go do your own comparison.

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dai gor... next time record a video to see.... may 0 ~ 200... i guess the duration of video should be around 20min gua... hmm.gif
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can reach tat speed..... but the time to achieve will be like..... think most ppl will lost count. but at least it can achieve it mah.... my Innova cannot break 180km/h (and it only occur when going down hill)
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People who dont own it will complaint this and that why cause Jelous lor.....

it's OK.... you can compare a ferrari and CRz then... go BUY what ever car you like laaa... no one gonna put a gun on your head... haha
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QUOTE(sensation1234 @ Jan 20 2012, 12:18 PM)
Went and test drove couple of cars last week (based on wife's wish list)  blush.gif  My rankings are as follows.

Note that this is IN MY OPINION only, if it differs from yours, go and test drive them yourself.

1) Golf tsi - Best of the lot in terms of performance and comfort but jerks at low speed. Maybe something to do with the DSG. Also the most expensive
2) Peugeot 308T - Approaching the Golf, reasonably fast, feels ok but not as comfortable. Somehow does not feel as solid. Price is good.
3) Prius - quiet at low speed but tyre noise starts to creep in at high speed. Great to drive in traffic jams. Performance is reasonable, not as good as the above 2 but as expected.
4) Insight - Easily worst of the lot, however it's also the cheapest so cannot complain too much. As for performance whoever says its fast must have been driving a kancil his/her whole life. CVT is f@cking noisy why can't they do it like the prius? Handling is so so.
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Crz got 6MT variant ?
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I own one (Insight) and it is not slow... well I do own a kancil 660 Auto (aint selling it hahaha)

but before this I do own some car... lets see let me list it out...

1. Honda City IDSi 2006
2. Honda Civic EK Hatch 1.5 multimatic (YES IT IS A CVT GEARBOX!!!)
3. Proton Putra GSR1.8 (Turbo) converted - Total Lost... sad.gif (really love this car...)
4. Perodua KELISA 1.0G Manual
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5. a e36 325i sport... (very old car... drink petrol like a LEMBU!!!)

and I can say Insight is NOT SLOW... it is fast enough for me... well at 200km/h speed I'm speeding down Seremban Hi-Way... so if 200 is not fast.. then I think I need to re-think a faster vehicle... maybee my next round is a.... (sorry not telling... but now VW... hate NAZI brand)


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Crz got 6MT variant ?
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CRZ is 6 speed MANUAL...


Added on January 20, 2012, 3:18 pmand YES... before you ask I love HONDA... love the insight too...

but for those petrol head that like fast car... dont even buy a VW... go get a true performance car... save money go for a TT or a M3...

next question can you afford it???... all the flaming around saying this car sucks that car better... end up driving a KANCIL turbo or a SAGALUTION...

BORING lah with you guys...


Added on January 20, 2012, 3:26 pmOh also I dont drive as aggresive as used to be... maybee getting old hahaha

but looking back... driving like you are going to DIE tomorrow is damn damaging to your car... have alot of piston replacement that cost thousand of ringgit...

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sometimes really tension will drive car real fast.... but usually on highway no on normal KL road lah..... but i nvr dare drive car more than 200kmh.... feels like i will die.... even more than 160kmh i start to feel so.

Anyway i think those ppl just argue saying that the car take too much time to reach the speed they want... all want to have 6 sec reach 100kmh speed mah. So any car that do so more than 10 sec they will feel it is slow.

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