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post Oct 8 2011, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(devinz @ Oct 5 2011, 11:34 AM)
Tentatively yes..
But got to see the actual car, see how bad is the back seat and also if can dispose my FD with a good price..

so far seems 2nd hand price for FD is not that favorable..

Added on October 7, 2011, 4:46 pmBudget 2012: Full exemption of import duty and excise duty on hybrid cars and electric cars will continue to be given until 2013
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Therefore no hurry le... can slowly wait until the real thing arrives
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post Oct 17 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(zelltan8 @ Oct 17 2011, 11:57 AM)
I heard is selling at 130k from SA
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130k?! Are they insane? Overseas its the same price as Insight and here they want to jack up extra 30%? If this is true then I'll scratch my order.
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post Oct 17 2011, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Yong_5290 @ Oct 17 2011, 04:21 PM)
120k still acceptable...its uses the same chassis and further strengthened it to the level
of the honda civic type R....That means its chassis rigidity is stronger than integra dc5

so if insight is around 100k...add 6k for the engine add 4k for the performance tyres
and a little bit of this and that another 10k should be ok...130k then its a turn down
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Huh? Are you justifying the pricing on behalf of Honda?!

Pls look at how much they sellign it in US, its par Insight price maybe around $1k diff at most. Unless you saying Msia spec have a more rigid chassism better tyres, better engine blah blah blah
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post Oct 20 2011, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(deesee @ Oct 20 2011, 12:49 AM)
I've booked mine already. Now awaiting delivery.
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What price and spec? If its 130k then can forget it.. i dont feel liek getting ripped off mad.gif
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post Oct 30 2011, 03:45 PM

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What are you guys smoking calling it a sports car? 2 door should fetch higher premium lah, 110k will be a bargain lah.

PLEASE! This car is priced similar to Insight in all other market, US, UK, etc. In US :
Insight EX : $21,815
CRZ EX : $21,105


So it SHOULD be priced similar to Insight in Msia as well, unless there are people dumb enough to pay 20~30K premium for no apparent reason ... if that is the case then Malaysian consumer should be treated as a bunch of monkeys that they are.
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post Nov 3 2011, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Nov 2 2011, 12:25 PM)
Jazz and Freed are CBU, therefore higher tax...

CRZ is 2 door... definitely more expensive... different tax structure by the gahmen...
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Different tax structure? and here I thought Hybrid car is tax free......

@ 120K ... good luck to them
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post Nov 3 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Nov 3 2011, 12:44 PM)
Don't you think RM120k is overpriced? Provided this Hybrid is not subject to any tax structure... so we shouldn't categorise it as Sports/Sedan as normal car...

Sales tax should be affect the category as well...

Don't get me wrong, I love this car but I think the price is marked up quite high @ RM120k...
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This car price is on par with Insight, only in Malaysia they put in a premium of RM20k. Malaysia Boleh.
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post Nov 3 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(chris_tco @ Nov 3 2011, 02:03 PM)
i think RM120k is reasonable, as the Insight found in malaysia is the lowest spec among the all the Insight variant, if u compare CRZ with the highest spec of Insight, should be similar.
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Lowest spec insight = lowest spec CRZ. Highest spec insight = highest spec CRZ price.

So are you saying the Insight offered in Msia is lowest spec while the CRZ is HIGHEST spec? Have u seen which spec is the CRZ?
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post Nov 3 2011, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(chris_tco @ Nov 3 2011, 02:11 PM)
the price that u guys compare is putting highest spec of insight to compare CRZ which found similar price range in US
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Dude at least read a few post back. I compared US price based on SIMILAR spec for CRZ/Insight.

As for the specs of Insight v CRZ here. DO you know what spec is the CRZ? Its the TOP spec?
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post Nov 3 2011, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 3 2011, 02:56 PM)
Most important is the weight shaving, the car weighs only 950kgs which is impressive
150BHP with a 950kg chassis, good enough ^^
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That's what made the old CRX famous... its not the power... but the power to weight ratio.. yum yum! Thought I was about to relive the old legend ... but at 120k.. bleh.... lacking motivation le
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post Nov 3 2011, 07:24 PM

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Agree this car is all about LOOKS. You LOOK fast... but... at the end of the day its still a hybrid.

Is 115/120k somehting I will pay for a car that looks like this? Yes.

Will I buy this? No.. cause I feel I'm being ripped off by 15K for no reason.

If Insight is 120k, and CRZ is 120k, I'll go book a CRZ tomorrow.
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post Nov 4 2011, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(lovehewit @ Nov 4 2011, 05:32 PM)
A manual car in KL traffic? Seriously? Good luck!  thumbup.gif
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I'm driving a manual in daily rush hour traffic.
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post Nov 11 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(azomic @ Nov 11 2011, 10:08 AM)
from gran turismo game  drool.gif
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Unfortunately the real crz is a "looks only car" with nothing to back it up.... if i see one on the road i sure cucuk him to see how he reacts tongue.gif
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post Nov 11 2011, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(devinz @ Nov 11 2011, 10:34 AM)
People buy specific car because he likes it and can afford it.
If you dont like, you dont buy...as simple as that.

Since when buying certain makes of car that you dont like become like a wrongdoer?

Weird..
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So defensive meh? Anyway no worries.. as long as u like the car... but if u see a gray nissan coming up behind you.. just kinda move into the middle lane ya pls! tongue.gif

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post Dec 27 2011, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 01:38 PM)
But but but... It smoke a CRZ for breakfast...
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Aiseh bro.. Malaysian style "It looks fast, it sounds fast... but it isnt fast!" tongue.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:32 PM)
How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!!

you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!!
Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!!

I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that

1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers
2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!!

It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!!

you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD...

you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!!
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Bro.. does CRZ comes with ABS as well? Then you better double check if the brake disc have ceramic/carbon mixed in it.. otherwise liek you say the ABS will cause the brake disc to warp...

Sure expensive to change sweat.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 05:45 PM)
Have you driven the original B16A CR-X which this CR-Z is suppose to spiritually replace? If you have not, then you do not understand why so many is opposed to the CR-Z. The previous CR-X weighs in less than 1000kg coupled with a 150hp B16A and it carries the name Sports Coupe. This new CR-Z is just a coupe.. it does not deserve the name Sports or Hot..

As I have mentioned before it does not have the power to match it looks. No doubt this car looks great but with such aggressive styling, it better have something to show under the bonnet.

Just like the new Toyota GT86. Instead of keeping to the paltry 1.6 engine that the old AE86 had, they put in a 200hp engine from Subaru. A hot coupe must have a hot engine to keep up, otherwise hot looks alone is not enough.

What this CR-Z needs is at least, minimum, the engine from the Civic Type-R. With 222hp and manual gearbox, it would be a very sweet car. That was what car enthusiast all around the world was expecting.. not some hybrid crap. At least Toyota/Subaru is doing it right with the GT86/RBZ.
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That's the crux of the issue.. CRX was a legend.. at 900+ KG the handling was superb and the power to weight ratio lovely.

This replacement is like announcing a new Toyota Celica and give us a Hilux equivalent... doh.gif

Edit : although I must admit the car look sexy... if the pricing was equivalent to Insight (just liek US/Europe market), then I would have bought it despite the dissapointing performance...

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post Dec 28 2011, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Dec 28 2011, 01:11 AM)
ok , i stated wrongly for the name.... sorry....
but i not mean to personal attack him, but just tired of watching him misleading other people.

somemore said mixture of carbon and ceramic easy warp.
but the purpose of mix with carbon and ceramic are designed to more durable during extreme heat condition 900c+.

calvin please read this and don misleading other people anymore!!!
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What do you mean?

Are you saying Honda Insight does not come with carbon reinforced ceramic composite brake disc/pads?! I thought for sure Calvin_Ng say it does wor. I was so excited thinking such a nice brake set... was goign to look for Insight halfcut to swap their brakes too cry.gif
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post Dec 28 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Dec 28 2011, 05:56 PM)
can civic smoke altis 2.0?
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More important is can Camry smoke Accord?
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post Dec 28 2011, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Renee @ Dec 28 2011, 06:11 PM)
Then who willing to take his 1.3 ima to test out with my FD ?
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me me! I also wanna test 1.5 ima drag... i heard torque very good wor.. drag must be very power lor...
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