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post Dec 27 2011, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:32 PM)
How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!!

you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!!
Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!!

I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that

1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers
2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!!

It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!!

you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD...

you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!!
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Bro.. does CRZ comes with ABS as well? Then you better double check if the brake disc have ceramic/carbon mixed in it.. otherwise liek you say the ABS will cause the brake disc to warp...

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post Dec 27 2011, 04:39 PM

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Yes the review all shown positive feedback and I'm actually surprise people that have no idea what is this car talk cr*p on it!!! look at the review all shown very positive and THEY drive it some even DRIFT it and some jokers come in and say it is under power , etc etc etc....

Look if you want to comment on a product at least have the courtesy of experience it 1st first hand... then lets talk....

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post Dec 27 2011, 04:41 PM

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Adui i thought I'm in Polo thread...got real CRZ owner here to provide some review ah?

no Polo comment please.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:32 PM)
How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!!

you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!!
Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!!

I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that

1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers
2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!!

It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!!

you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD...

you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!!
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LoL you watch youtube for topgear review and 5th gear review of ford fiesta ma .... I just tell you wad my experience on the car only lea ==. Polo is faster than Ford Fiesta and it has a better interior design, I dunno why TopGear review ford fiesta is better. You have to know TopGear is abit racist and they will only say how good an aston martin is but never say how bad it is .... because Aston is a Britain car ==. So from here you might need to think that TopGear is actually biased towards German car =D just saying bro and yes I did test drive both of the car .... the spec sheet is for your reference since u trust reviews so much and can't get the facts right for 1.2 and 1.4 polo differences =D U didnt google them either so where did you get a 1.4 TSI Polo with 4 door hahahax =D

Now my question is did you ever test drive a polo/Ford Fiesta? =D

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 27 2011, 04:38 PM)
Bro.. does CRZ comes with ABS as well? Then you better double check if the brake disc have ceramic/carbon mixed in it.. otherwise liek you say the ABS will cause the brake disc to warp...

Sure expensive to change  sweat.gif
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Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken)
it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!!

yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice...
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Dec 27 2011, 04:19 PM)
clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol.

the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol
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But but but... a turbo in a kancil memang overpower woh. Nanti the kancil vibrate to hell and betul betul terbang oh!
Sometimes something no need to test also know which is more powerful...
AMD bullzoder vs Intel Celeron, do u need to test to see which is more faster?
Polo might be fugly in ur eye, or it might be inferior in ur mind, but it is definitely more powerful than a CRZ.
Are you or the sinkalingam + lingam said Polo is not more powerful than a CRZ?
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM)
Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken)
it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!!

yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice...
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??? So you dont even know about the car.
Are you saying the POLO is not more powerful than CRZ?
I just need u to answer this.
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(EvoSiewPao @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM)
LoL you watch youtube for topgear review and 5th gear review of ford fiesta ma .... I just tell you wad my experience on the car only lea ==. Polo is faster than Ford Fiesta and it has a better interior design, I dunno why TopGear review ford fiesta is better. You have to know TopGear is abit racist and they will only say how good an aston martin is but never say how bad it is .... because Aston is a Britain car ==. So from here you might need to think that TopGear is actually biased towards German car =D just saying bro and yes I did test drive both of the car .... the spec sheet is for your reference since u trust reviews so much and can't get the facts right for 1.2 and 1.4 polo differences =D U didnt google them either so where did you get a 1.4 TSI Polo with 4 door hahahax =D

Now my question is did you ever test drive a polo/Ford Fiesta? =D
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Yep I did... nearly bought a Fiesta Sport for my self but that sales man cannot give me a good resale value for my car... I test drive Fiesta 3 times 2 sport and 1 sedan (sedan cause my sis is interested)

on the Polo I did not test drive Polo 1.4 cause I do not prefer 2 door... I did drove the Polo 1.2 but dont like it cause interior kinda dull (personal taste here) some how I prefer Fiesta interior but I agree plastiky!!! the dashboard is hard plastic not like Polo...

Polo is more quiet more of a conti feel to it... but at that time my aim was with Honda Insight cause it offer bigger boot space and they some how manage to get me a very good value for my car that I need to let go...

I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2...

on CRz I test drive it last week when I send my Insight to service... It is a very small car more of a 2 person car and 2 dog for back seat (not for any human) it is fast the acceleration is superb!!! apart from Manual shift I found this car very well balance and powerfull... but like all Honda the ride is kinda on the hard side and like all Honda as well you dont get much of a luxury feel (conti feel or those solid toyota feel) but you feel cheeky and fun!!!
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:58 PM

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I am extremly confused here...Which Polo spec is Pip comparing to CRZ?
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 04:48 PM)
??? So you dont even know about the car.
Are you saying the POLO is not more powerful than CRZ?
I just need u to answer this.
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untill now you still dont know it!!!

if you want a POWERFULL CAR go get a KANCIL TURBO... it can potong any POLO tsi GTi hahaha!!!

all you people like you say POWERFULL here and POWERFULL there....

then what do you define by POWERFULL here...

Powerfull by the figure of Horse Power (PS) rating??? Torque??? Handling...???

WHAT??

if you want to argue for the sake of argument then stop wasting time...

I have forgot how many god damn airbag CRz have... all I know it have 2 Airbag on A pillars (1 on each side) the standard Passenger and Driver airbag... I cannot remember got Side airbag or not... that why I say 6 Airbag with reservations.... hahaha


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You dont even answer my big question.

QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:42 PM)
Bro this car come with 6 AIRBAG!!! (if i'm not mistaken)
it have VSA, ABS, EBD, Hill Assist etc etc.... alot of mumbo jumbo... even the Airbag is OPDS and 2 Stage Airbag!!

yes like all newer cars the disc is the new type... it has a mixture of carbon and ceramics which improve breaking performance but will have greater wear on it... manufacturer dont use the old type of Steel Disc Rotor anymore... so yeah you need to replace the Disc rotor more often compare to Wira type which no need to replace one hahaha too bad but for added breaking force some thing must sacrifice...
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Oh fucuk you are the same guy who posted rubbish before.
So again, I think u pelan chaio pun tatau punya, mari sini cakap gugu saja.

Also, your favourite Top Gear said the Honda Insight: "Clever but pointless. Like teaching your dog to skateboard."
To me it means: "Dogs also duwan to drive 9 this so high car"
http://www.topgear.com/uk/honda/insight/verdict

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If your friends know nothing about cars and laboriously unplug their telly each night instead of leaving it on standby, they'll think you're cool. But do such folk have any real concept of cool? And if they did, would they admit to it? Maybe gadget-fiend mates would be impressed by the flashing lights of the Honda's dash.


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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 04:54 PM)
Yep I did... nearly bought a Fiesta Sport for my self but that sales man cannot give me a good resale value for my car... I test drive Fiesta 3 times 2 sport and 1 sedan (sedan cause my sis is interested)

on the Polo I did not test drive Polo 1.4 cause I do not prefer 2 door... I did drove the Polo 1.2 but dont like it cause interior kinda dull (personal taste here) some how I prefer Fiesta interior but I agree plastiky!!! the dashboard is hard plastic not like Polo...

Polo is more quiet more of a conti feel to it... but at that time my aim was with Honda Insight cause it offer bigger boot space and they some how manage to get me a very good value for my car that I need to let go...

I'm a Honda Insight Owner and I do not regret my decision at 1.3l it is a very powerfull car and I can say performance wise it is as good as Polo 1.2...

on CRz I test drive it last week when I send my Insight to service... It is a very small car more of a 2 person car and 2 dog for back seat (not for any human) it is fast the acceleration is superb!!! apart from Manual shift I found this car very well balance and powerfull... but like all Honda the ride is kinda on the hard side and like all Honda as well you dont get much of a luxury feel (conti feel or those solid toyota feel) but you feel cheeky and fun!!!
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LoL should have compared it with ford fiesta =D for me I don't think its worth buying Ford Fiesta because its kinda like an overrated myvii. (my opinion =D)

You should have tried test driving a polo 1.2 TSI because its also a fun to drive car =D. Yes have to agree that VW gives you more of a conti feel while honda gives you a more sporty feel. Different people different preferences~ will find some time to look into CR-Z

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Please state what wrong with that statement...

also what wrong a car that telling you how to save fuel... if you say it is stupid then all BMW are equally stupid of VW as well as all new cars come equipped with a trip computer that tell you how efficient you drive.... oh my!!!
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uuuuuhh kayyy....I'm gonna leave this derailed thread for now until someone post something that made some sense & relevant....
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QUOTE(EvoSiewPao @ Dec 27 2011, 05:03 PM)
LoL should have compared it with ford fiesta =D for me I don't think its worth buy Ford Fiesta because its kinda like an overrated myvii. (my opinion =D)

You should have tried test driving a polo 1.2 TSI because its also a fun to drive car =D. Yes have to agree that VW gives you more of a conti feel while honda gives you a more sporty feel. Different people different preferences~ will find some time to look into CR-Z
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Since you have driven this 2 car... you must try a CRz then you will know what I was trying to tell...

Some mindless self centered people only see things so narrow that they started to ignore things... heck they can even tell me Kancil can tapau ferrari... oh my!!!

I always think Just Horse power and Torque does not made a car more POWERFULL or better.. it is a combination of things

I always like Ford Fiesta although you say it is a BIG mivy haha (agree) cause the dashboard material and build really myvi quality... (hard plastic and silver painted middle dials-my god not even chrome) and overall I do not say POLO is sucx I like Polo but as I said not my cup of tea...

I do not condemn polo or Fiesta to me they are equally good.... but since this is CRz thread I believe people should get the true picture...
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haiya... some ppl like the car ma praise kau kau lo.
some1 who doesnt ma talk shit on it lo.

why so offensive? its just a forum, we just talk about cars. not flaming others who doesnt have the same opinion...

anyway, today i met a guy who was upgrading his 16" crz to 17" in a tire shop. we chat for abit, it is proven this car handling & performance is actually quite ok. but compromises with low practicality. well hes a single guy so literally crz suits him.

but talk about the look, its quite unique. i believe most youngster will like it, but prolly not the old timers. not to say its bad but it just isnt the classical sporty & elegant look like a aston vantage, haha. but it still a charming car in many ways.
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and some chap tole me that Honda Insight is so under power it cannot go up Genting hahaha so funny.....
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 05:09 PM)
Since you have driven this 2 car... you must try a CRz then you will know what I was trying to tell...

Some mindless self centered people only see things so narrow that they started to ignore things... heck they can even tell me Kancil can tapau ferrari... oh my!!!

I always think Just Horse power and Torque does not made a car more POWERFULL or better.. it is a combination of things

I always like Ford Fiesta although you say it is a BIG mivy haha (agree) cause the dashboard material and build really myvi quality... (hard plastic and silver painted middle dials-my god not even chrome) and overall I do not say POLO is sucx I like Polo but as I said not my cup of tea...

I do not condemn polo or Fiesta to me they are equally good.... but since this is CRz thread I believe people should get the true picture...
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Have you driven the original B16A CR-X which this CR-Z is suppose to spiritually replace? If you have not, then you do not understand why so many is opposed to the CR-Z. The previous CR-X weighs in less than 1000kg coupled with a 150hp B16A and it carries the name Sports Coupe. This new CR-Z is just a coupe.. it does not deserve the name Sports or Hot..

As I have mentioned before it does not have the power to match it looks. No doubt this car looks great but with such aggressive styling, it better have something to show under the bonnet.

Just like the new Toyota GT86. Instead of keeping to the paltry 1.6 engine that the old AE86 had, they put in a 200hp engine from Subaru. A hot coupe must have a hot engine to keep up, otherwise hot looks alone is not enough.

What this CR-Z needs is at least, minimum, the engine from the Civic Type-R. With 222hp and manual gearbox, it would be a very sweet car. That was what car enthusiast all around the world was expecting.. not some hybrid crap. At least Toyota/Subaru is doing it right with the GT86/RBZ.

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