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Mikeshashimi
post Dec 27 2011, 01:40 PM

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All buy expensive cars but none know how to use the indicator when turning.
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post Dec 27 2011, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Dec 27 2011, 01:40 PM)
All buy expensive cars but none know how to use the indicator when turning.
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I drive proton =D and I always use indicator when turning/cutting cars @.@ thumbup.gif

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post Dec 27 2011, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 01:38 PM)
But but but... It smoke a CRZ for breakfast...
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Aiseh bro.. Malaysian style "It looks fast, it sounds fast... but it isnt fast!" tongue.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Dec 27 2011, 01:30 PM)
haha...ivtec but 12 and 16v operation.. it u old city's VTEC la..

wei...wake up la bro...bangun bangun

the insight and crz uses IVTEC la..variable valve timing on the INTAKE only.

Watch out CIVICS, ALTIS, LANCER, INSPIRA, honda insight is coming to smoke u, HONDA, the power of dreams
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if you wanna learn on CR-Z and the engine here is the source
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/CR-Z/index.html

it is actually a VTEC 12-16 valve switch operation where low RPM one of the valve is de-activated
then you say this is OLD vtec.. haha Harlow!!! since when VTEC got NEW and OLD

VTEC stand for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) this is technology and what T brand have is a VTEC without Lift technology... and the i so called Intelligent is actually in Honda stand for Electronic Control...

now in i-VTEC honda the i is actually ECU VTEC switching instead if Hydraulic pressure switching. but in This CR-Z case the i stand for Engine fuel cut off operation where the engine can turn it self off similar to Honda Accord 3.5l i-VTEC VCM operation

and this CR-Z engine is actually the improve version of L15A VTEC engine....


Added on December 27, 2011, 2:24 pmhttp://www.honda.co.nz/cars/crz/tech/engine/ivtec-vtc

Another article that show how CR-Z ivtec come into play

now be a good boy go home and do your HOMEWORK before you post another stu*id comment!!!

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post Dec 27 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 02:20 PM)
if you wanna learn on CR-Z and the engine here is the source
http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/CR-Z/index.html

it is actually a VTEC 12-16 valve switch operation where low RPM one of the valve is de-activated
then you say this is OLD vtec.. haha Harlow!!! since when VTEC got NEW and OLD

VTEC stand for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) this is technology and what T brand have is a VTEC without Lift technology... and the i so called Intelligent is actually in Honda stand for Electronic Control...

now in i-VTEC honda the i is actually ECU VTEC switching instead if Hydraulic pressure switching. but in This CR-Z case the i stand for Engine fuel cut off operation where the engine can turn it self off similar to Honda Accord 3.5l i-VTEC VCM operation

and this CR-Z engine is actually the improve version of L15A VTEC engine....


Added on December 27, 2011, 2:24 pmhttp://www.honda.co.nz/cars/crz/tech/engine/ivtec-vtc

Another article that show how CR-Z ivtec come into play

now be a good boy go home and do your HOMEWORK before you post another stu*id comment!!!
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Wow! Cool information!
But but but... cheap low end polo still eat CRZ for breakfast...
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post Dec 27 2011, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 02:50 PM)
Wow! Cool information!
But but but... cheap low end polo still eat CRZ for breakfast...
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Of course a Polo will eat the CR-Z for breakfast. But if you're driving to downtown KL at peak hours, with 1/8 of a tank left, the CR-Z will leave you in the dust once you run out of petrol.

It's a hybrid. They try to market it as a sports car, but in the end, it's still a hybrid, and has to live with the limitations of a hybrid (weight, power, etc.). Doesn't mean it has no purpose though, it's just slow. Will be economical to run when it comes to petrol. That's about it...

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post Dec 27 2011, 03:04 PM

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Crz have a very high end torque... you can feel the G-force when accelerating... not a Hard kick light those Turbo kakis.... so you dont just compare a car with just Horse power... there is Torque and Power over Weight...
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post Dec 27 2011, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(dothackRAVE @ Dec 27 2011, 02:55 PM)
Of course a Polo will eat the CR-Z for breakfast. But if you're driving to downtown KL at peak hours, with 1/8 of a tank left, the CR-Z will leave you in the dust once you run out of petrol.

It's a hybrid. They try to market it as a sports car, but in the end, it's still a hybrid, and has to live with the limitations of a hybrid (weight, power, etc.). Doesn't mean it has no purpose though, it's just slow. Will be economical to run when it comes to petrol. That's about it...
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But but but... KL downtown sure got many petrol station, cannot just go to any petrol station to pump?
You are taking the senario as polo has only 1/8 of a tank.
If you take the senario as in CRZ has only 1/8 of the battery power, lagi dangerous weih.
Low power = use more fuel. The underpowered 1.5l with low battery power will use more fuel to push the heavy CRZ.
Macam lagi cost ineffective lol!

This means a polo with 1/8 of a tank = still can provide max power needed.
But a CRZ with 1/8 of battery power, IMA become weak, have to rely on 1.5l petrol engine = lagi no power loh.

Please correct if my common sense is stupid.
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post Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM

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on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously

DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO...
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM)
on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously

DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO...
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First of all, it is not small. It is heavier than your regular Vios, which is 4 doors, 5 seats and a boot. Power is relative but with looks like that and not making 0-100 in 6 seconds, it is underpowered.

Having a CRZ looking like that and a hybrid is like going out with a supermodel who is doesn't want to sleep with you because she thinks that you are gay. That is as bad as a bad analogy goes... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 27 2011, 03:22 PM)
First of all, it is not small. It is heavier than your regular Vios, which is 4 doors, 5 seats and a boot. Power is relative but with looks like that and not making 0-100 in 6 seconds, it is underpowered.

Having a CRZ looking like that and a hybrid is like going out with a supermodel who is doesn't want to sleep with you because she thinks that you are gay. That is as bad as a bad analogy goes...  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM)
on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously

DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO...
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Between we are talking about POLO GTI or POLO ???? Polo GTI 1.4 tsi Polo 1.2. If CR-Z is running low on electric the 1.5l engine is confirmed to suck more petrol than a normal polo 1.2.
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post Dec 27 2011, 03:30 PM

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Any polo with a budget of RM115K
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post Dec 27 2011, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:30 PM)
Any polo with a budget of RM115K
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Means you are talking about Polo 1.2 TSI den ==

Polo 1.2 TSI
4 door - 109k

Polo GTI 1.4 TSI
2 Door - 140k (around there)

get yours specs right lea ==


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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Dec 27 2011, 03:16 PM)
on a CRz a 1.5L engine is more than enough to power the car it is not under power... heck how can you say such a small car 1.5l engine under power... I really dont understand... in that case might as well get a Accord 3.5l V6 VCM then you consider not under power.... hahaha... seriously

DID YOU EVEN GO AND TEST DRIVE or at least go google around you tube for review... look at their comments all return very positive... and why do you compare with a POLO 1.4.... Polo is a 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior except for their unlimited 5 years warranty which is heck good.... the car is BORING... even top gear compare it with a Ford Fiesta and Fiesta is even a better car compare to a POLO... bottom line Polo is not worth it... all review say Ford Fiesta is a better car compare to polo and it is cheaper too.... if I were you I will consider Fiesta and CRz noway a POLO...
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Answering back to your answer about the reviews .... Review are just for reference .... I drove before Polo and Ford Fiesta .... to tell u the truth Ford Fiesta is an Upgraded Myvii just the engine lolx. The interior is as dull as myvii, dam the dashboard is like crap if I remember correctly. Polo has a smaller but powerful engine, you can check fiesta spec http://www.ford.net.my/fiesta/specs_features.asp.

Polo 1.2 spec (Polo from 108k went up to 110k ++)
http://my.volkswagen.com/vwcms/master_publ...nical_data.html

Polo GTI 1.4 Spec
http://my.volkswagen.com/vwcms/master_publ...nical_data.html

Anyhow I look at it ... Polo has a better interior design than Ford Fiesta .... Ford Fiesta is just a so call exclusive Myvii .... I tested both of them =D and also alot of car price ranging from 70k - 140k == just that now CR-Z just came up I will find a day to test drive and let you know what I think about that car =D.

Oh yah the part you said its ugly and boring right ... I had that same feel but once I drove it shyt its a fun to drive car with a not so appealing body. =D

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Polo 1.2 TSI is within that price range.
1.2l TSI is so much more powerful than 1.5l with IMA.
No need test drive, any human with decent brain can figure it out.
I only compare the performance, not the outlook.

The very super beautiful sporty look CRZ kena smoked by 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior, best tak?
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ Dec 27 2011, 03:55 PM)
Polo 1.2 TSI is within that price range.
1.2l TSI is so much more powerful than 1.5l with IMA.
No need test drive, any human with decent brain can figure it out.
I only compare the performance, not the outlook.

The very super beautiful sporty look CRZ kena smoked by 4 Door hatch with Ugly boring interior, best tak?
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Best Bro =D, test drive for sheer joy and to tutup their mulut say never test drive before >.>.
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post Dec 27 2011, 04:19 PM

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clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol.

the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol
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all wanna be keyboard heroes ma.... so let them be lor.... to the honda fanboys... CRZ is a MUST... to the vw fan boys...SUPPORT POLO... the rest who owns neither... stand aside and enjoy the show... let the pissing begins!!
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How on earth can you comment on a product that you have not even sit on it... this is bul* Shi*!!!

you tell me this product so good so great or you tell me this product so suc* and ugly and lousy and what you do is sit infront of the computer and type!!!
Like this every one can do... take your lazy BU*T out of the chair and GO TEST DRIVE!!!

I'm not a fan boy but I condemns and HATE those people that

1. HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY TALK cause they only look at manufacturer numbers
2. HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE IT yet they talk like they know it all and OWN IT!!!

It is like you talk all great on 1 particular girl that you dont even know her!!! how on earth can we trust you!!! and you condemn another girl that you dont even know!!! this is so LOW man!!!

you read manufacturer numbers and google all night for answer but that is what manufacturer want you to know you will not get REAL answers... inorder to do that YOU NEED TO GET INTO ONE AND DRIVE IT... then come back here and talk on it... either it is good experience or BAD...

you and argue day and night that POLO / KANCIL is better than CRz but really... can we trust what you said!!! have you driven all 3 or ALL OF IT!!! or it is just loads of crap read out from manufacturer..... if that what you do then thanks but no thanks I can google!!!
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QUOTE(zephyrus9999 @ Dec 27 2011, 04:19 PM)
clearly this forum is filled with either people lack of technical knowledge on cars or fanboys. All statements found here are clearly pure biases, with reinforcements of their own commitment after reading like 1 or 2 articles. lol.

the fact that 9.5/10 people commenting here has NOT even tested drive the CRZ, and purely making arguements based on their own preference. Stop regurtitating stuffs from other fellow forumers and apply elsewhere. Baseless facts. I do not own a CRZ neither do i support it. But the price tag is on the high side, but we cant conclude from it that its underpowered. if so why not install a turbo on ur kancil and call it overpower since its cost will be cheaper than a CRZ? Price factors includes many aspects, from aestatics, interior, marketability etc etc, and not just simple plain 0-100 all the time. typical malaysian minded ppl lol
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hey, try youtube for crz review from topgear and fifth gear, very cool car.


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