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Cheesenium
post Oct 26 2010, 07:41 PM

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I just tested mine with Intel Burn Test. The maximum temperature recorded is 65C. It rarely go over 70.
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:07 PM

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That's great, but how long was the test run? Compared to running a benchmark or game, at high settings/medium, over at least half an hour, in a non-air conditioned room.
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:18 PM

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u guys means that i7 with nvidia card inside a laptop will very hot?

what is the min and max temperature it can reach?

i still waiting for xps15 review. any source? hmm.gif
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 26 2010, 08:07 PM)
That's great, but how long was the test run? Compared to running a benchmark or game, at high settings/medium, over at least half an hour, in a non-air conditioned room.
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10 minutes ish, the temps increase quickly to 65 from 50 ish, then, remained stable after that.

Games, i think it wasnt that hot too, as games arent as demanding as those stress test apps.
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:43 PM

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Well, some Nvidia cards aren't that hot. The newer ones in particular have improved a little.

What I mean is pairing discrete GPUs with i7 makes it hotter than most dual cores.

Max temperature can depend on the system. Here we have max temp claims of 60+ to 70C, but "reviews" suggest they usually are at high 70s and can move to 80-90C depending on the laptop. Its limit the card can withstand is about 100-105C.
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post Oct 26 2010, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 26 2010, 08:43 PM)
Well, some Nvidia cards aren't that hot. The newer ones in particular have improved a little.

What I mean is pairing discrete GPUs with i7 makes it hotter than most dual cores.

Max temperature can depend on the system. Here we have max temp claims of 60+ to 70C, but "reviews" suggest they usually are at high 70s and can move to 80-90C depending on the laptop. Its limit the card can withstand is about 100-105C.
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It's hard to say, as each system is built slightly differently.

As long as it doesnt overheat or underclock, i think it should be ok.
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post Oct 26 2010, 09:15 PM

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not fair if u full load a i7 (quad core) stress test compare to dual core, disadvantage in temperature since its doing more work
try load 2 out of 4 core from i7, that is fair comparison

generally the graphic chip (IC only) can go over 100°C, but other components are not.

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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 26 2010, 09:15 PM)
not fair if u full load a i7 (quad core) stress test compare to dual core, disadvantage in temperature since its doing more work
try load 2 out of 4 core from i7, that is fair comparison

generally the graphic chip (IC only) can go over 100°C, but other components are not.
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I knew it's an unfair test, as the test was made for duo cores, rather than quad.

I couldnt find any suitable replacement software for it.

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post Oct 27 2010, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 26 2010, 09:15 PM)
not fair if u full load a i7 (quad core) stress test compare to dual core, disadvantage in temperature since its doing more work
try load 2 out of 4 core from i7, that is fair comparison

generally the graphic chip (IC only) can go over 100°C, but other components are not.
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if u do that, might as well get a dual core in the first place rit??? sweat.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 11:08 AM

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Hi guys,

I've been waiting around for a while now to get a replacement to my outdated Compaq. I've been constantly checking the Dell website for a computer I want and when the new XPS came out, I was so interested. Other than the i7 & Graphic Card option, the heat issue (that may not be a problem at all) and other alterenatives, such as Asus, are there any other significant reasons why you would not purchase this notebook?

1. Warranty: I'll be going to UK next year to continue my Law degree. Will I encounter a problem with warranty location transfer and are there anythings I should know about it such as certain warranty extension options not being valid in the UK.

2. RAM: Is there a significant difference between the 4GB and the 6GB (other than the price of course)? Why do most people buy symmetrical RAM (2x2GB RAM and 2x3GB RAM, rather than buying 1x2GB and 1x4GB)?

3. Alternatives: Is there an upperhand if I purchase an Asus? If yes, what alternative computers should I look into?

4. Keyboard: Is it really that bad, excluding the absence of a numpad?

5. Chasis: Again, a significant reason?

My friend says the way I choose a notebook is like choosing a wife, but I just want to make sure I get a notebook suitable to my needs.
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QUOTE(botak91 @ Oct 28 2010, 11:08 AM)
Hi guys,

I've been waiting around for a while now to get a replacement to my outdated Compaq. I've been constantly checking the Dell website for a computer I want and when the new XPS came out, I was so interested. Other than the i7 & Graphic Card option, the heat issue (that may not be a problem at all) and other alterenatives, such as Asus, are there any other significant reasons why you would not purchase this notebook?

1. Warranty: I'll be going to UK next year to continue my Law degree. Will I encounter a problem with warranty location transfer and are there anythings I should know about it such as certain warranty extension options not being valid in the UK.

2. RAM: Is there a significant difference between the 4GB and the 6GB (other than the price of course)? Why do most people buy symmetrical RAM (2x2GB RAM and 2x3GB RAM, rather than buying 1x2GB and 1x4GB)?

3. Alternatives: Is there an upperhand if I purchase an Asus? If yes, what alternative computers should I look into?

4. Keyboard: Is it really that bad, excluding the absence of a numpad?

5. Chasis: Again, a significant reason?

My friend says the way I choose a notebook is like choosing a wife, but I just want to make sure I get a notebook suitable to my needs.
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Imho, I would still choose the Asus N43Jq or N53Jq (totally biased)... haha laugh.gif

1. I don't think there will be problems as long as you purchase International warranty from Dell. Most Asus laptops come with 2 year International warranty as standard brows.gif

2. I din't notice much difference between 4GB and 6GB RAM. I don't think its really necessary... might as well wait until RAM price drop only buy hehe

3. Personally, I preferred Asus's design and speakers compared to that of Dell's XPS

4. You can always get an external numpad (especially for data entry) smile.gif My experience with the numpad on my Qosmio is that its not very comfortable to use... might as well get a calculator or something if you are into calculations haha *also, laptops without numpads i.e. SXPS16 looks nicer and classier (please ignore this sentence)

5. I think its best if you can go and take a look at both models and decide which 1 appeals to you most~

Yeah, choosing laptop is like choosing a wife (short-term one though) haha
Anyway, hope you get to choose the most suitable "wife" laugh.gif

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You want a numpad, but not everyone does smile.gif And nobody expects a numpad on a 15 inch laptop.

"Other than the i7 & Graphic Card option, the heat issue (that may not be a problem at all) and other alterenatives"

then there you go, you should buy it since there are no other major reasons not to. But, if you really want i7, the Asus i7/HD 5730 would be better than this in terms of specs (not sure about the resolution and screen size on that one).
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woow new dell xps 15 spec quite nice..
excep the design.. o.o is it too compactd
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post Oct 28 2010, 03:57 PM

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Too compact? Some say it is too bulky lol.

Top panel is not too impressive, i.e. speakers and touch panel, power button area.

But aluminium is nice.

About colour I'm not sure if it's grey, or black, or silver or what.
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QUOTE(mousez @ Oct 28 2010, 03:48 PM)
woow new dell xps 15 spec quite nice..
excep the design.. o.o  is it too compactd
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For me, the new Dell XPS series notebooks are simple and nice. Just love the anodized lid and palm rest. Sweet! brows.gif

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post Oct 28 2010, 05:20 PM

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It seems that the people who would have a problem with the new XPS 15 are avid gamers or at least people who demand higher performance rigs. For a basic user like me, who may play some games like SC2, Civ 5 and Dota, I think it would be sufficient. If not, are there any other notebook alternatives that are good value for money.
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QUOTE(botak91 @ Oct 28 2010, 05:20 PM)
It seems that the people who would have a problem with the new XPS 15 are avid gamers or at least people who demand higher performance rigs. For a basic user like me, who may play some games like SC2, Civ 5 and Dota, I think it would be sufficient. If not, are there any other notebook alternatives that are good value for money.
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You can have a look on G53/ G73. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 06:01 PM

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Lmao look at the damn weight of G53/G73!

I was using a 14 inch notebook or 5 years (but it was not really light). So when I bought a 15.6 inch laptop, weighing in at 2.75kg, it was very bulky at first - hard to move around on the table. Of course it isn't heavy to move around, but I mean it's really bulky. If you're not the type who likes huge machines, the G series is a bad idea. Otherwise, Alienware or G series would be good (except you have to import G series as it is hugely overpriced).

Now if Dell quit screwing about and offered i5 + GT435M then I would buy XPS 15. They only offer 3 years warranty through customisation here >.<
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 28 2010, 06:01 PM)
Lmao look at the damn weight of G53/G73!

I was using a 14 inch notebook or 5 years (but it was not really light). So when I bought a 15.6 inch laptop, weighing in at 2.75kg, it was very bulky at first - hard to move around on the table. Of course it isn't heavy to move around, but I mean it's really bulky. If you're not the type who likes huge machines, the G series is a bad idea. Otherwise, Alienware or G series would be good (except you have to import G series as it is hugely overpriced).

Now if Dell quit screwing about and offered i5 + GT435M then I would buy XPS 15. They only offer 3 years warranty through customisation here >.<
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laugh.gif Yea, you are right about the weight. If one really emphasize on mobility, then G-series notebooks would not be the ideal choice. However, if one hunger of performance, he/she can aims for G53/G73. Besides that, importing the beasts from US or Singapore is relatively cheap compared to the local resellers but it is worth it as I'm using one now. HIGH performance/ price ratio if I compare to AW. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 28 2010, 06:01 PM)
Lmao look at the damn weight of G53/G73!

I was using a 14 inch notebook or 5 years (but it was not really light). So when I bought a 15.6 inch laptop, weighing in at 2.75kg, it was very bulky at first - hard to move around on the table. Of course it isn't heavy to move around, but I mean it's really bulky. If you're not the type who likes huge machines, the G series is a bad idea. Otherwise, Alienware or G series would be good (except you have to import G series as it is hugely overpriced).

Now if Dell quit screwing about and offered i5 + GT435M then I would buy XPS 15. They only offer 3 years warranty through customisation here >.<
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weight is expected for the hardware u re getting...

if a Asus G or AW is light, i rather not buy it...

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