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News Dell XPS 15 is back! ~ rm2999 ~ It has launch!, Core i5, GT420M, 4GB, 500GB, JBL subwoof
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LightningFist
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Oct 21 2010, 09:05 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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You can't say the price is lower. The price you mentioned is for GT420M and i5-460M only. This is Before GT435M + i7, Backlit Keyboard, Bluetooth, Full HD screen. Those features are Already included in Studio XPS 16. Added on October 21, 2010, 9:06 pmWe have been discussing it here, although it should probably be renamed to Dell XPS / Studio XPS http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry37207023This post has been edited by LightningFist: Oct 21 2010, 09:06 PM
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LightningFist
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Oct 21 2010, 09:14 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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Let me tell you something I've used JBL Subwoofer on a laptop it is terribly soft and of poor quality. One certainly does not need to be charged a huge amount for it.
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LightningFist
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Oct 21 2010, 10:12 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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Knockout? You are totally forgetting that is the converted US price.
Check the US price of a Studio XPS 16, or an Asus G53JW, or a MBP, and think again.
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LightningFist
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Oct 21 2010, 10:30 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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You want numpad get XPS 17  But no FullHD B+RGLED
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LightningFist
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Oct 21 2010, 11:13 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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Well, Alienware has 19200x1200 vs 1600x900 of XPS 17. XPS 17 has GT445M 3GB but not GDDR5/GDDR3.
Added on October 22, 2010, 12:21 amUp already, starting RM2999 with i3. But cannot buy yet. Zzz i3.
Added on October 22, 2010, 12:48 amOK buyable now.
Added on October 22, 2010, 1:29 amForget it. Crappy options, not worth it. Waiting for next gen laptops with AMD or Sandy Bridge.
This post has been edited by LightningFist: Oct 22 2010, 01:29 AM
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 01:24 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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But eugenchiu you are forgetting the specs of USA laptops and Malaysia laptops are not the same. They typically get more, and better, options, for a much lower price. And you cannot compare the mini because it costs only like, what, RM1000? How does this RM1000 compare to some laptops which cost more than RM1500 more than the one in the USA? Shipping or tax cannot even reach RM1500.
Sorry Astria no XPS 17 in Malaysia.
Ok this is interesting:
12:55:08 PM System System Connected with Ross_Chan 12:55:13 PM Agent Ross_Chan Welcome to Dell Sales Chat. My name is Ross. I'll be your personal sales agent. How can I help you today? 1:06:35 PM Customer Tim Hello 1:06:55 PM Customer Tim I am interested in the XPS 15 laptop. However I must ask you 1:07:09 PM Customer Tim why can't I order XPS 15 with i5 and GT435M 1:09:36 PM Agent Ross_Chan GT 435M must order with Core 7 processor. 1:14:04 PM Customer Tim Why what is the reason? 1:15:16 PM Agent Ross_Chan This is the restriction set on in customize page. 1:17:00 PM Customer Tim I know but can I not order it like that? 1:17:06 PM Customer Tim Why is there this restriction? 1:17:46 PM Customer Tim I waited over a month, Dell withheld all information, but now they cannot tell me why I cannot order the right options? 1:21:55 PM System System The session has ended!
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 01:48 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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1 - On what do you base this claim? In other countries, particularly USA, you can - while it's still under warranty - get your system replaced by a brand new model of equal or better function and specifications, if there is something wrong. I'm very sure that does not make USA's Dell service any lesser than the one here - if you have In-Home / On-site of course. Oh and yeah, I'm going to find tons of sites and books on how Dell MY's service totally trumps the United States'. Right.
2 - No, Astria mentioned wanting XPS 17. I was just saying it wasn't available in MY.
3 - What are you even saying? I was trying to show how Dell cut me off so quickly when I was asking a genuine question about the product. "System restrict"? I wanted to know why somebody disabled that option.
Clearly you need to improve your English and your eyes.
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 02:53 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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Sorry to discount your English, I realise this is a forum, and language use is not always a priority.
The Dell guy cut me off, clearly. I did not DC (or at least I'm quite sure I did not because the Chat thing does not need super fast, smooth internet).
It's just that they purposely made it so that you cannot order i5 with GT435M or i7 with GT420M, for their own reasons or whatever, and I wanted to know why - before I considered buying it.
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 03:23 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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LOL I was not "trippin" or anything. Just understandably fustrated with Dell's shortcomings. And can you blame me? What other choice of laptop can I get with graphics the level of HD 5730, No i7 quad, and not a 4kg+ Alienware? Very few, if any. I think Acer quality has improved. Not to mention 5650 is Around the same level as the GT420/435M, but not as power hungry. But do you want good warranty service
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 04:58 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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Ok, yeah, since GT 420M is like GT 335M, I suppose this is an alternative to the Acer and Asus laptops below RM3000 with 14 inch screens. But then again we were expecting something equal or better to XPS 16, that is the main point.
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 05:39 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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Soup did you miss the part where "XPS will be replacing Studio and Studio XPS"?
And did you know Alienware has/had the same GPU as Studio XPS 16? It's not products competing against each other. The main point is to sell any and all products.
Since many will agree to an extent ATI/AMD GPU > Nvidia Geforce this was a bad mistake by Dell.
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 06:35 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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Trying to negotiate i5 + GT435M. Then I will buy. Or else, a long wait  Was really looking forward to this and I like the metal parts.
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 06:41 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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I would prefer an XPS 17.
But I liked that XPS 15 had an unobstructed vent, and USB 3.0 (for what it's worth), and no leather (I think SXPS comes with leather here by default does it not).
Of course upside is ATI 5730 which is the best decision ever made by a Dell employee in my honest opinion. If only this simple feat could be repeated once, and quickly.
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 07:01 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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Can anybody who knows about Processors and VRAM...
They claim i5 cannot support 2GB GT435M, this is not true right?
Cause they also claim "i7 cannot support 1GB GT420M" which is obviously false.
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 07:08 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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OK Dell still refuses to admit the truth...
Anyways I found Sager laptops with 1.5 and 2GB Nvidia VRAM GPU options paired with i5 processors, but Sager warranty is dodgy.
Now if only we could pair Sager's obvious understanding of customers' demands with Dell's warranty - hey Dell, I have an idea, acquire Sager!
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LightningFist
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Oct 22 2010, 07:32 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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LOL nice try but it has little to do with the consumers' association I'm afraid. But it really irks me that they would lie about it - not just MY, but USA, UK, France, etc. But at least they have XPS 17, we don't!
Dell can go ahead and lose all the customers it wants. Promotes optimus but restricts the actual product.
Oh and when I was asking Dell (MY) about it, one "agent" cut me off, while the other "agent" initially claimed that the XPS was only launching in the future. Psshh...
Don't Buy XPS!
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LightningFist
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Oct 23 2010, 02:16 AM
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Minion of the Damned
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XPS 14, USB2.0 should be three. XPS 15 and 17, USB 3.0 two, one combo USB 2.0/SATA.
Yeah the keyboard kinda looks ugly except for the touchpad/palmrest, and the touch media keys kind of suck. Volume/media keys are way better.
Don't buy XPS!
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LightningFist
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Oct 23 2010, 04:00 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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That's not an "error". Dell USA/UK/Europe/Malaysia deliberately did that so that we can't buy it like that. They even continue to lie about it.
Hell, i5 is compatible with 2GB VRAM, and i7 is compatible with 1GB VRAM. Plenty of laptops being sold like that.
The XPS 15 vent is quite small, maybe because they are near the large speaker vents? XPS 14 and 17 have smaller and further speaker grilles, but relatively larger air vents.
Dell continues to let everyone down. If only SXPS 16 had no leather parts like M1330.
Don't buy XPS!
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LightningFist
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Oct 23 2010, 04:21 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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While the keyboard/touch panel design is a bit lame and nothing like M1330/M1530/XPS 16, the aluminium is nice and the vent is at least unobstructed. If they were to offer proper options as they should (which is why we even get Dell in the first place), I'd buy one within a month.
Does anyone know, the SXPS 16 in Malaysia is sold with leather back, no choice right?
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LightningFist
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Oct 23 2010, 05:16 PM
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Minion of the Damned
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What are you on about there's no new or old price. The only thing changed is no more 750GB HDD.
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