what kind of limited warranty are u referring to?
how about the SXPS16 using hd5750 or lenovo y460 which uses the gt425 or is it cause u prefer the 2mb gt435 as i havent seen a i5 460M notebook with a higher gpu than the gt425

This post has been edited by metaloid: Oct 25 2010, 01:12 AM

spx16 http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/s...TE2I3JlZ2lvbg==

xps 15 http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/s...y0xNSNyZWdpb24=

oops i guess i was wrong. they look the same.. -.-

SXPS 16 is HD 5730

I do not like Lenovo laptops.

Sager laptops have i5 and fast GPUs, faster than HD 5830/GT 445M. But alas there will be complications if there is something wrong and I need it repaired, etc. Alienware and MSI also have i5 and faster GPUs. There are others too of course, like HP, and Dell Latitude/Precision.

Yes, the main thing is I want a laptop with GPU faster or equal to HD 5730, but not as hot as most Nvidias (so it is most likely an AMD).

If I bought Asus, MSI, Lenovo, Acer, Sager etc, I will have problems if something goes wrong. Internationally the warranty is not as reliable as Dell.

But Dell had to screw us with the new XPS.

Don't Buy XPS!

talk abt int'l warranty, none is better than Asus...

default already 2yrs int'l warranty, with the option extending to 3...

that's y i dun mind importing one from US to use for my study in Australia...

besides, the general build quality of Asus, imho, is better than Dell...

This post has been edited by astria: Oct 25 2010, 07:15 AM

dont keep on mention nvidia is hot compare to Ati, and Core i7 is not that hot, ok?
other laptops are sold at Core i5 +GT425M, not GT435M or GT445M.

Some GC is not compatible to certain chipset.

i noticed that the projector key (win key + P) on sxps 16 was placed on the right hand site
and XPS 15 one was placed on the left hand side around the F1 key
so i think there is some differences between XPS 15 and SXPS 16 keyboard

demn.. xps15 i7 + 2gb gt435 for rm3669

too bad screen need to be upgraded to have more screen resolution for rm411

Putochip, other laptops ARE sold with i5 (460/560 etc) + GPUs Faster Than GT435/445M... that's just a fact... what do you work for Dell or something?

i7 quad is pretty hot if you're in Malaysia or when your room temperature is close to 26/27 and it is scorching outside. Not to mention humidity is high. Nvidia GPUs are hot, that's also a fact. There are exceptions but in general that's that. Just use some Nvidia + i7 laptops and then compare.

notice that xps15 had HDMI & mini display port while xps14 don't hv display port.
so is that mean we can hook out 2 external monitor via HDMI & mini display port from xps15??

i have an XPSM1330 which i bought at PCfair 3 years back for RM5k (full high spec). I AM SUPER REGRET buying it cuz it sucks! with that kinda money i can buy this laptop or i can get fookin high end spec desktop! im BUTTHURT OKAYH!

3 years ago what haha.... technology advances, all the time
My 3 year old Toshiba M100's specs is also very pitiful haha

Well, generally 3 years means its almost time to aim for a new PC... with ample of research I bet you will be able to get one which you won't regret

Of course dude. My 6 year old Dell was like USD1000+ at the time, and now that is higher than the price of starting XPS 17, or other high end laptops like Sager/Asus/Dell! And it was only Pentium M 1.5GHz, 256 RAM or 512.

But 5k M1330 - quite a lot. I don't have the discrete GPU M1330, but its battery is like a Macbook's - goes on forever.

anyone there already bought the latest XPS 15? hahaha... waiting ppl to comment on it...

i'm also waiting for people to comment on it...but it would be sweeter if they can come out with a 13 incher with that spec

Dell XPS 15

Intel® Core™ i7-740QM Processor (1.73GHz, 4Core/8Threads, turbo boost up to 2.93Ghz, 6M cache)

15.6 FHD (1920x1080) B+RGLED display with TrueLife™

4GB Dual-channel 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM (2 x 2G) (operates at 1066MHZ for Core i5 processors)

500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive

2GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 435M graphics

RM 4,090.00

Is there any brand same/superior spec as this,out there but lower/same in price?
locally not worldwide. Thanks.

well, i live in malaysia, my Core i7 920XM running at peak, also 74'c only, not to mention Core i7 740QM or 840QM(they will be lower since thier TDP is lower)
My M15x GTX260M runs at 80'c at peak, so i think this wouldnt be hot, that ATi 4670 inside the XPS Studio 16 can reach 72'c or even higher, so it is ATi cooler?
I had used so many laptop before, what u mean cool for a laptop? running peak at 50'c? u think water cooling ar? even my desktop with water cooling, at peak, also reach 50'c

Not all Nvidia is hot, is depends on what heat sink is used for the laptop, the air flow of the laptops.

Let me give an example for, we dont say Dell/Alienware ok?
We take Asus as an example, same graphic card same proccessor
G53JW vs G73JW, both also having GTX460M

While G53JW have 78'c at peak, but G73JW have only 67'c? while G73JH with Ati 5870 have 69'c? ATi cooler?

dont just heard other people say, try it out 1st.

Dont belive what im talking? belows link are prove for 5870 is hotter, while the picture shows the Nvidia GTX460M is cooler

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Update...ok.31186.0.html


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thats only if the pasting is good.

If that unit has bad pasting, it's gonna be way higher,

Another thing is, Asus G series did not have as much cooper as AW, if im not wrong. They just use typical heat pipes from the CPU and GPU. The only advantage is, there are 2 fans in the laptop and they are quite quiet under load.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 26 2010, 06:45 PM

yup, u are right, no matter is Nvidia or Ati, is depends on the air flow of the system.

If is desktop version then is different theory d.....

Obviously Alienware is different, the body is huge so it can take i7-920XM at 74C which is staggeringly cool - assuming your i7-920XM is Alienware.

If you are able to achieve 74C at actual full load over an extended time with i7 quad in a laptop with the normal, average size and build, i.e. no huge cooling system like Alienware, in non-air conditioned conditions, then it would be something amazing.

G73JW and G73JH may not have the exact same build and parts, this I am not sure, but in any case 2C is not a significant difference.

G73 is larger than G53 and should by default be slightly less warm even with the same cooling system and fans. Notebookcheck temperature measurements are inconsistent and not error-free. So while 78 and 67 may seem like a large difference, is errors are taken into account, the real difference may be less significant.

But I was not talking about Asus G53/73 specifically. The average laptop (Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Fujitsu, Toshiba, Sony) with i7-720QM or better will have much higher Full Load over extended period (like 1 or 2 hours) temperatures if, even if you go by Notebookcheck's reviews and data.

what i wan to highlight is, not all Core i7 and Nvidia is hot