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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V24, Thuban or Bulldozer!? Its 6-Season

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saturn85
post May 7 2011, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(dafreak @ May 6 2011, 03:37 PM)
nice, it is coming nearer. rclxm9.gif
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post May 7 2011, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 6 2011, 05:48 PM)
ok2..last reply.. then draw  laugh.gif
this..
but previous post u say bigger am3+ pins wont fit into smaller am3 hole..but now the lever is the problem.. hmm.. i dont think so, but, i donno.. u also donno.. but MSI,ASUS, what else? know..
Haiz..I don't think u understand my previous post. Not sure wanna explain again. This is getting tiring. I'm not a fan at explaining the same thing over and over again. So I'm just gonna let this one slide..

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 6 2011, 05:48 PM)
well..doesnt mean much is depends on the user. if office user, use pc to surf internets and MS office, yeah, thats its a total waste, but for me, i take that details.. plus i dont think the link is made for normal user.. if u looking that link as a normal user, is normal to not bother or even to look at the link at all..
Well..I can't argue with this..Like u said, Noise and Ripple doesn't matter to normal users. I think only electronic engineers would understand those. R u an electronic engineer? Cause even I read 10 times the article in Wikipedia I still can't understand what is electronic ripple and how it affect components. Sorry if my BS comment offended you..

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 6 2011, 05:48 PM)
if the more stable volt, then better oc ability (yeah,im making assumption)
believe? yes cuz now no one can prove that is a lie...
Shouldn't it be more stable volt, more stable ur oc. But stability also equals to ability....so I think they're the one and same....WTH am I mumbling here rclxub.gif

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 6 2011, 05:48 PM)
how far this asrock marketing affects me? not much.. im not into asrock.. just curious over new socket..
since u posting/replying in OCU, yes, huge difference ddr2 > ddr3.. .. try reply at HW QnA subforum.. dozens of ppl will reply u with "+1" or "agreed"
Well if OC then I think there is difference. But there are simply too many factors that affect the OC'bility(is that even a word, or I just invented 1 biggrin.gif ) of a system.
What I mean when I said there is not much performance improvement is in terms of normal usage. But OC.....I think the higher frequency does contribute to better OC'bility...

QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ May 6 2011, 05:48 PM)
but performance socket difference, not so sure.. last time no details on socket this and that.. but iinm, try put ur am3 into am2 socket and ull see the ocability drop.. 
newer chipset also not any better if u just casual user.. let say 7series to 8series.. the great thing is the ram oc.. other than that, i donno..
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The biggest difference between my socket AM2 and AM3 is the chipset. The chipset on my AM2 is a very old NF6100. So there are a lot of options that are closed to me. I feels like my 955 is locked in a prison when I used that mobo biggrin.gif . But then back then I got no money so no choice.
But since my AM3 mobo is using AMD770 chipset, the OC is a lot better with a lot more options for me to tweak. So I think, chipset makes the most different in OC'bility. Socket alone is not perfect. Must pair a good chipset with new socket. Must wait for new 9xx chipset for AM3+.

So, this ends our meaningless argument. This is the time to rejoice, not argue nod.gif Finally, a new Architecture from AMD. I heard rumours that AMD implement their own version of HT in BD. I seriously hope this is confirmed. Fingers crossed.


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post May 9 2011, 03:26 AM

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just notice that amd got such cpu: sweat.gif
Athlon X2 5200+ 2.3GHz 45nm AM3 unlocks to Phenom FX-5200
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post May 9 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ May 9 2011, 03:26 AM)
i think got ppl sell in garage sales previously liao...
initially i want to buy that buy i settle for 955 BE...


Added on May 9, 2011, 12:18 pmoh sorry, what i saw was FX-5000...
My bad....

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post May 9 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(byfc2010 @ May 9 2011, 12:14 PM)
oh sorry, what i saw was FX-5000...
My bad....
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haha, seem like no forumer bring the amd phenom fx 5200 and sell here. biggrin.gif
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post May 9 2011, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ May 9 2011, 04:45 PM)
haha, seem like no forumer bring the amd phenom fx 5200 and sell here. biggrin.gif
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Its basically the same as a lock AM2+ 940 lah, only got DDR2 IMC IIANM coz last time got someone selling picked binned X2 5000 hmm.gif
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post May 9 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ May 9 2011, 05:03 PM)
Its basically the same as a lock AM2+ 940 lah, only got DDR2 IMC IIANM coz last time got someone selling picked binned X2 5000 hmm.gif
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bryanyeo sell it last time...but heard the multiplier is locked. sweat.gif IIANM~ tongue.gif
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salam satu malaysia everyone i want to ask which one oc is good using raise multiply to 20x200,ram 1333 8- 8- 8- 24 or raise bus speed to 17x220 ,ram 1??? 8-8-8-24

cpu phenom b55x4

ram kingston hrper x 1600 cl9

mobo ga-870a-ud3
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post May 9 2011, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(keyo @ May 9 2011, 06:13 PM)
salam satu malaysia everyone i want to ask which one oc is good using raise multiply to 20x200,ram 1333 8- 8- 8- 24  or raise bus speed to 17x220 ,ram 1??? 8-8-8-24

cpu phenom b55x4

ram kingston hrper x 1600 cl9

mobo ga-870a-ud3
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no gain i think if raise htt.. it only gives u more fun..
but, sometimes u need to do some experiments.. some combination will make ur processor go slightly higher, or slightly low vcore..
if u make ur ram go higher than 1600, u have no choice..

depends..

then dont foget to oc the cpu NB frequency.. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 9 2011, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ May 9 2011, 05:03 PM)
Its basically the same as a lock AM2+ 940 lah, only got DDR2 IMC IIANM coz last time got someone selling picked binned X2 5000 hmm.gif
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QUOTE(uzer85 @ May 9 2011, 05:11 PM)
bryanyeo sell it last time...but heard the multiplier is locked. sweat.gif  IIANM~ tongue.gif
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it should similar to the previous Phenom FX 5000. but: biggrin.gif
Phenom FX 5000 - 2.2GHz, AM2+, 45nm, C2.
Phenom FX 5200 - 2.3GHz, AM3, 45nm, C3.

both of them have locked multiplier.
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUSi...x?id=712&id=607
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post May 10 2011, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ May 9 2011, 07:06 PM)
it should similar to the previous Phenom FX 5000. but: biggrin.gif
Phenom FX 5000 - 2.2GHz, AM2+, 45nm, C2.
Phenom FX 5200 - 2.3GHz, AM3, 45nm, C3.

both of them have locked multiplier.
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUSi...x?id=712&id=607
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saturn dude, do u know any seller for FX 5200?

if yes please do let me know thanks ya... notworthy.gif

RMK : verdict accidently use his colleague id again...paisehh...

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post May 10 2011, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(tossee @ May 10 2011, 11:18 AM)
saturn dude, do u know any seller for FX 5200?
if yes please do let me know thanks ya... notworthy.gif
RMK : verdict accidently use his colleague id again...paisehh...
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haha, didn't see anyone sell here. sweat.gif
i think those people get it from other buying site. unsure.gif
http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=138244
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post May 10 2011, 10:39 PM

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Just asking, what kind of FANS you ladies are using?
why you wanna use that kind of fan and are u ruuning of full blast or controlled by cpu or fan controller?

ive been keep changing casing fan since i know how to oc sweat.gif
From Gelid fans > SFLEX G > AVC 2800rpm > Nmb Mat 4000 rpm fans sweat.gif
this NMB MAT fans is great, now my temp LOWERED alot,max temp decreased 7 c but its hard to control and it sounds like my pc is going fly off doh.gif
P.S> sorry for off topic lol

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 10 2011, 10:39 PM)
Just asking, what kind of FANS you ladies are using?
why you wanna use that kind of fan and are u ruuning of full blast or controlled by cpu or fan controller?

ive been keep changing casing fan since i know how to oc sweat.gif
From Gelid fans > SFLEX G > AVC 2800rpm > Nmb Mat 4000 rpm fans sweat.gif
this NMB MAT fans is great, now my temp LOWERED alot,max temp decreased 7 c but its hard to control and it sounds like my pc is going fly off doh.gif
P.S> sorry for off topic lol
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U mean for the cpu hsf or case fan? laugh.gif
For my hsf i used to use the bling2 xigmatek fan but they push little air sweat.gif
Right now using combo of scythe & noctua fan, temp is just nice to me smile.gif
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 10 2011, 10:39 PM)
Just asking, what kind of FANS you ladies are using?
why you wanna use that kind of fan and are u ruuning of full blast or controlled by cpu or fan controller?

ive been keep changing casing fan since i know how to oc sweat.gif
From Gelid fans > SFLEX G > AVC 2800rpm > Nmb Mat 4000 rpm fans sweat.gif
this NMB MAT fans is great, now my temp LOWERED alot,max temp decreased 7 c but its hard to control and it sounds like my pc is going fly off doh.gif
P.S> sorry for off topic lol
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what cooler you using? what are the temps now? run @ OC + 100% load all the time?
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post May 11 2011, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ May 10 2011, 11:43 PM)
U mean for the cpu hsf or case fan? laugh.gif
For my hsf i used to use the bling2 xigmatek fan but they push little air sweat.gif
Right now using combo of scythe & noctua fan, temp is just nice to me smile.gif
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both sweat.gif
I do have noctua and sflex, but noctua is a silent type fan, sflex G is too noisy at full blast.


Added on May 11, 2011, 1:42 am
QUOTE(dafreak @ May 11 2011, 12:35 AM)
what cooler you using? what are the temps now? run @ OC + 100% load all the time?
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Venomous X, temp idle at 33, load at 41c, yeah i run 3.9ghz all the time even downloading torrent overnight sweat.gif
at full load the fan still not reach the highest speed, it runs at 2800rpm unless i disable the fan controlling.
normally it goes up to 48c when using SFLEX G or the avc 2800rpm fans.
it looks like thick fan really push alot of air or may be the static pressure is better than normal 25mm fans.

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wafor u run @ 3.9 all the time? just enable CnQ 41/48C considered good adi..
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QUOTE(dafreak @ May 11 2011, 08:43 AM)
wafor u run @ 3.9 all the time? just enable CnQ 41/48C considered good adi..
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I have tried CnQ + oc, its never stable, im not sure why. thats why im forced to run 3.9g all the time sweat.gif
Btw i just realized shit happened on my mobo, the HTT was revered to default clock, thats why the temp dropped so much, just raised back the HTT clocks, the temps only improved by 1c and more annoying fan noise doh.gif
Yeah i installed those high speed fan is just want to kacau my roommate-from-hell thumbup.gif
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just curious,for AM2 mobo,the HT link got limit?is it ok to push it more than 1000Mhz?also is it dpends on the mobo or the proc? icon_question.gif
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there's not much of a purpose to increase HT link unless you are running on onboard vga..

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