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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V24, Thuban or Bulldozer!? Its 6-Season

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post Oct 16 2010, 02:58 PM

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@sanko
sorry.. i cant even boot with 1600mhz dvider..
and i guess that is the bios fault..not the mobo...

i boot with quite loose setting.. the max read latency is ridiculous..
i expect around 50 but it boot with 40.. i donno wat is the prob.. but all AOD timings been monitored..
luckily this board i able to change the max read latency.. most boards i tried i just cant change.. once apply, will freeze no matter loosening or tightening.. some cases i can change but max is 2~3 ..but this board can straight away change from 40 to 45..5 is quite a big number to me tho

and the R to W DQS count quite weird..
like random..
normally it will boot with 6... and sometimes (very rare for me) it will be 8..but that mobo with 10.the number is not my liking.. laugh.gif

these are 1st impressions.. google for bios update but not exist laugh.gif

max bootable with 1333mhz dvider
1640mhz 7-8-7
1700mhz 7-9-7.

1600mhz dvider wont boot with cl7.. sorry..limited skill.

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using my regular 1st.. later try new imc.. but i dont think i can do much..
fyi.. other boards can do 1840mhz stable with same timings..this is abit let down.. sorry.. cry.gif

i might be wrong with all the statements above.. do correct me if im wrong then notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Oct 16 2010, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Oct 16 2010, 05:17 PM)
Huhuhu, looks like someone got a new mobo to borrow & play2 whistling.gif whistling.gif tongue.gif
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i cant do any good bro..
very hard to tweak since AOD cant fully used.. and not so familiar with many things
there are to many volt thingy and some option that i need dont have here...

need at least 1 year to master laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 16 2010, 07:54 PM)
if someone get something to test for free, that someone is not an average joe bro...  nod.gif
if d issue lies within bios, even d experts can't do much.  smile.gif

1760 @ 7-9-7 for a pair of kvr considered quite impressive ledi on a board with initial bios...  thumbup.gif
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nahh.. lower then average mebbe..

ok... im doing this my way..slowpoke way.. hope sanko able to give more time for me.. 1 week for me to test.. ok ka sanko?kekeke
and sorry.. no performance ram with me..kekeke.. i only love value thing..keke

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burn in time.. brows.gif
just another 40mhz to meet my expectation....kekeke.

so far i able to boot with 1750mhz (1333 dvider) regardless of IMC.. so i will satisfy more with slowpoke tweak.. laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Oct 18 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(wan_d7 @ Oct 18 2010, 11:16 AM)
Sorry sir, gotta ask this, why do you time with 6.66? Why not 5.33? Can i actually choose my multiplier eg, 6.66, 5.33?
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yeah ofkos..

search for dram multiplier/divider or any other related term

the option is 800 / 1066 / 1333 / 1600.
have fun icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 18 2010, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(verdict @ Oct 18 2010, 03:39 PM)
Yo dude....how is it? still doing great ahh??  laugh.gif
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what? the board?
with 7-8-7 , 7-9-7 , 7-10-7 it 40mhz-50mhz lower than my other board.

havent try with cl8 tho..
and same as u guys.. 1600 dvder wont make it..
well... things might be better with other's hand cry.gif cry.gif

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post Oct 18 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(verdict @ Oct 18 2010, 04:06 PM)
I notice that possible to archieve higher frequen with CL8 thou... nod.gif

now im more interested in CL8 with higher frequen... flex.gif

Just try & see dude...may the force be with you... icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah..my secret weapon taken out..
boot with 1st try!!
hail micron! kekekeke

single channel tho sweat.gif

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this is the max i can do with cl7..
cl8 eh? will try later.. i just dont like the figure.. since i care most is the trcd..kekeke.. trp is to make the number look nais.. kekeke
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post Oct 18 2010, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Kaya Tan @ Oct 18 2010, 05:22 PM)
bro help me !!!

am2 6000+ can unlock core or not ?
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sure cannot.. the die is either brisbane or windsor..no deneb inside..kekke
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post Oct 19 2010, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 19 2010, 08:50 AM)
am anticipatin ya return bro...  nod.gif 
ur bein modest bro, kvr bein run @ 17xx~18xx isn't something we can witness everyday. i'd say job nicely done.  thumbup.gif
micron is capable of 8-8-8 @ 18xx w/ reasonable volt (1.7xv) iirc. imo no point runnin 7-9-7 on micron, they're better off runnin @ 7-7-7 (tight timing) or 8-8-8 (lax timin). my humble 2 cents.  wink.gif
kekeke.. that was to boot with cl7 unker..
this board having problem to boot with cl7 dvider 1600mhz..
and this was done with only 1 stick..i dont have 2 of this.. my other rams failed to boot.

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was done last night..
i barely have time to tweak these days.. so i only make it 30mins..
night shift sweat.gif sweat.gif (even kerja pasar have shift lol )
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post Oct 19 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 19 2010, 02:22 PM)
what's d vdimm usedd? timing & freq looks impressive...  thumbup.gif
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timing impressive?
tras and trc auto..
trfc , read to read, write to write is loose..kekeke

ahh.. i found that this mobo good in handling high vdimm.. so this was done with 1.780v
kekeke.. but soon, i tried with 1.75Xv..no sign of instability but i dont prime.. time is precious..kekeke..
proceed with higher freq but failed.. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Oct 19 2010, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(verdict @ Oct 19 2010, 04:55 PM)
Come get my gskill for testing kunta... brows.gif

maybe you can do something with it... notworthy.gif
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dont want lah...
the thing that i can do is RMA it..kekeke.. (or perhaps stare and amazed by the nais heatsink)

QUOTE(Sanko @ Oct 19 2010, 06:19 PM)
1.780v ??? waHHH... i never had such courage before. cause i don't won't any personal ram. lol!!
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err.. worry not bro..
amd is not like intel..
for amd, 1.8v is normal.. very2 safe (Atleast for me)
but since most these days ram not react to volt well, that is why ppl make em <1.7v

and i removed some of the insulation near ram pwm + some cooling.. so i can assure u the board will survive all the way back to u icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 20 2010, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Oct 19 2010, 08:22 PM)
Yup AMD chippies IMC can even stand 2.1v on DDR2 xkan lah on DDR3 cannot stand 1.8v right? tongue.gif

BTW bro what do u mean insulation near ram pwm? It got heatsink ka? Ke bro sanko left his nenen there? sweat.gif laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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what? nen nen? lucah!! keke
yeah.. but personally for ddr2, i will stick at most 2.1v.. dont dare go 2.2v but with ddr3, 1.8v is very2 safe and no worry at all (same 0.3v increment)

QUOTE(sarahlah @ Oct 20 2010, 02:27 AM)
its ok.. if u want to oc it oso can.. brows.gif

btw guys, if pcie lane is running below x16, is it because of the mobo or the card ? mine is running at x1.. after using eraser, the speed increase to x4 hmm.gif
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kekeke..
what mobo?
last time normal for me..
mula2 x1. later reattached turned x4.. and bersih2kan the slot turned x8...kekeke
now new card dont have the prob edi..
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post Oct 21 2010, 04:07 PM

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sarahlah...
what board u bought?
c4f ke? good luck yo..
what ram?

after read all u guys post.. i just realize, i havent test the chip that sanko loan to me..the max clock.. just use the IMC only..that i see the difference not impress me at all under low clock <1900mhz compared to my regor..

or user problem perhaps..kekekek
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post Oct 21 2010, 06:54 PM

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urgh..
somehow i found bright side of this board.

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1.503vimc as set in bios..
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post Oct 22 2010, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Oct 21 2010, 07:45 PM)
1.503v for cpu-nb?  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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kekeke..
that is not thuban bro..what to do..

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 21 2010, 09:19 PM)
fwah... that's some serious volt there... nonetheless, awesome freq there...  notworthy.gif
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eh? y u guys like shocked? 1.5v is normal right? even the vcore can withstand it, y imc couldnt?
the evo htt limited to 300 (but last time i manange to get 315..donno y..user prob..kekee)
evo can handle imc volt very well.. 1.37v for 3ghz on regor..since i was expecting 1.5 at 1st.. (since last time 550BE need >1.5 to make it stable.. so i was expecting the same..
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 22 2010, 12:52 AM)
IMC is different ya know..Its heat is like combined with Processor + PWM + NB
Unless have proper cooling then its fine but seriously not recomended for long usage..
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?? couldnt understand u well

well... 1.2v and 1.5v, the diff in core/cpu temp is very small.. not that 15c jump.. im not so sure..but i can say 5c perhaps...

@unker ah khoo..
what ram used? ur ss showing 2 mem tab instead of SPD.. kekeke
come2.. beat the wall. (eh..whats ur target eh? 4.1ghz <1.4v ya? )

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 22 2010, 07:06 AM)
It does not give huge difference to CPU but more to PWM and NB i guess..Because if u tend to increase more u might see the proc not high but the PWM that high..
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i have my own theories and reason behind that..
last time, when no imc volt to control, the imc shares thhe same value as vcore..
so vcore able to be 1.5, y imc shouldnt..kekekeke

pwm.. i donno..but i dont think that is a huge amount temp jump there..cuz i dont think it need alot of juice..even with 1.5
for NB, increasing the vNB will generate more heat compared to vIMC increase right?..and yet once i try to push my ram max, i will increase vNB quite high..
yet..many board survived and got sold laugh.gif
(and i dont see what is the relation of vIMC will increase NB temp. enlighten me pls)

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 22 2010, 07:20 AM)
4.1GHz w < 1.4v? i dun dare to dream big. 4GHz w < 1.4v i very happy ledi...  nod.gif
kekeke.. good luck unker..
but 24/7 setting? u need ah those speeds?
338HTT eh on evo? i can only do 300.. last time max 315.. i suspect my ram..but.. tested with other ram also like that.. haish... need a better hand..
even ud3 max at 300.. doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(verdict @ Oct 22 2010, 09:12 AM)
Straight away play 2D bench bro...wanna see the result with 3.2Ghz NB speed... drool.gif
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will do bro..but the setup has been dissembled..later try and post..

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 22 2010, 02:23 PM)
Maybe i couldnt explain much on that,but NB voltage affects IMC stability.As u said,u did increase vNB for RAM Stability right?
Before this,AMD combined IMC with CPU vCore but recent changes they separate it to save energy consumption.

Of course increasing vNB will results higher temperature compared to increase vIMC.But vNB does not really affect other components temperature while IMC does.

*Do correct me if i am wrong.All of these are based on my observation during overclocking"
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ok..will take note..i will be extra careful..but since my settings never for 24/7.. so it will be ok..
vNB only have minimal effect on ram/htt clocking....sometimes u even think it is no use..increasing few notch will gain nothing..so need to increase up to the near not -safe volt..

for the bolded part.. its very true..so AMD dint said to IMC cant handle the volt..just the IMC dont need that volt..kekeke..

btw..correct me if im wrong also laugh.gif

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post Oct 23 2010, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 22 2010, 05:45 PM)
ermmm... can always coupled w/ c&q mah...  tongue.gif

to get high htt, all u need is to find d g-spot (preferred divider) of d system. at certain htt, chip or i can say imc dislike certain divider. u just need to test, as simple as that, no skill/knowledge needed.  wink.gif
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tried almost everything...
last time on eco..htt can go abit higher..but now not..
1-all possible ram dividers tested
2- low/high cpu multi
3- low/high NB freq..
4- super extra juice on cpu,NB,HT..

all seems not working.. i wonder.. need new sticks i think..kekeke..
i miss my team elite.. tested on 7series board only..so cant get the full performance unleashed..
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post Oct 23 2010, 07:35 PM

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@unker
ahh..
push the ram further unker.. laugh.gif
this new BE's IMC got difference compared to ur 1055t?
slight difference i mean..since both thuban..

anyway good clocks there..
btw..whats wrong with the vimc? ok wat?

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post Oct 26 2010, 02:32 PM

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wah abg verdict..
fast2 update.
test the 6cores.. kekeke
and change mobo too.. kekekke


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okeh..teke teki..

@verdict.
here the 3.2ghz IMC
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i dont run ram bench since i know.. ram clock that bad wont get good result

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this is better result.. with lower IMC..

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