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freddy manson
post Nov 15 2010, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(ccf1286 @ Nov 15 2010, 10:40 PM)
f1.8 50mm good one...i haf exising f1.8 35mm, but when i try to shoot in low light environment, the outcome is dark, when try to set ISO 1600 (Max for D3000), the outcome is blur..noise!

Therefore, for low light condition, fast lense or D7000 (ISO 6400) will help me the best?? *despite the budget first.
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go for flash..
wont regret it man!

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[quote=freddy manson,Nov 15 2010, 11:47 PM]
go for flash..
wont regret it man!

Yeah, I have a flashgun..but, in some...or most of the situation, carry a flashgun along is too heavy for me..and for my understanding..flashgun will not bring up the photo naturally looking...


Added on November 16, 2010, 12:39 am[quote=G K Lai,Nov 15 2010, 11:34 PM]
If f/1.8 still not wide enough for you, then the maximum you can get is f/1.4.... just a little gain.... sad.gif

In this situation, I believed you need a really low-noise camera more than a f/1.4 lens as f/1.4 won't help you much... blush.gif

Of course, at the end, only you will know what you need the most... smile.gif
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GK, i totally agree with you. F1.4 really doesnt help me much ...not only me..but for most of those with beginner camera..

High ISO, Low noise = D7000.

In fact...i been waiting for the launch of D7000. Perhaps, i should just buy the body to save some money...and for time being, just use back the D3000 kit lense, 18-55mm F4.5.

I hope D7000 will help me to what I wana achieve..

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post Nov 16 2010, 01:47 AM

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There are situations where you can't use flash though, like orchestras, concerts, etc... There's where iso performance and fast lens comes in handy smile.gif
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post Nov 16 2010, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(ccf1286 @ Nov 16 2010, 12:34 AM)
GK, i totally agree with you. F1.4 really doesnt help me much ...not only me..but for most of those with beginner camera..

High ISO, Low noise = D7000.

In fact...i been waiting for the launch of D7000. Perhaps, i should just buy the body to save some money...and for time being, just use back the D3000 kit lense, 18-55mm F4.5.

I hope D7000 will help me to what I wana achieve..
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Yup, get the body only (RM3,800) will be fine... by the way, the camera already launched, but already sold off in most of the camera shops... cry.gif

Anyone know whether Nikon Malaysia (officially) giving away any free gift for purchasing the D7000 body?
Maybe DSLR bag and/or a SD card? smile.gif


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QUOTE(ccf1286 @ Nov 16 2010, 12:34 AM)
GK, i totally agree with you. F1.4 really doesnt help me much ...not only me..but for most of those with beginner camera..

High ISO, Low noise = D7000.

In fact...i been waiting for the launch of D7000. Perhaps, i should just buy the body to save some money...and for time being, just use back the D3000 kit lense, 18-55mm F4.5.

I hope D7000 will help me to what I wana achieve..
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go buy D3 straight la tongue.gif sure high ISO low noise. hahaha
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Nov 16 2010, 06:35 AM)
go buy D3 straight la tongue.gif sure high ISO low noise. hahaha
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The mirror and shutter noise of D700/D3/D3s is LOUD. People will look at you if you use it in a quiet environment.
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D7000's shutter is pretty much stealth and silent! biggrin.gif.
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Nov 16 2010, 01:47 AM)
There are situations where you can't use flash though, like orchestras, concerts, etc... There's where iso performance and fast lens comes in handy smile.gif
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Concerts can la. Orchestras only tongue.gif

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QUOTE(G K Lai @ Nov 16 2010, 02:20 AM)
Yup, get the body only (RM3,800) will be fine... by the way, the camera already launched, but already sold off in most of the camera shops...  cry.gif

Anyone know whether Nikon Malaysia (officially) giving away any free gift for purchasing the D7000 body?
Maybe DSLR bag and/or a SD card?  smile.gif
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Can get DSLR bag + 8 or 4GB SDHC Card.

Problem with limited stock is, they are firm on the pricing or even try to play around with the price; Keep changing their price, if you ask at different time.
Another problem is, if they have only 1 unit, many people would've touch and tested it, the shutter count when you get it could have be over few hundred. If true, can the buyer request for better price?


QUOTE(jloi @ Nov 15 2010, 06:36 PM)
i went to BTS Nikon Center to play wif D7000 today. very poisoning i would say biggrin.gif

Brought my own memory card and tested the noise performance. Test the Video recording as well.

and i do agree with u guys, the shutter is silent and fast focusing biggrin.gif

orgasm over 6fps burst sound! teehee

p/s lemme know if u guys wanna see the noise comparison
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Make sure you get a brand new unit, a 100% new unit will prompt for the time and date during first time starting up.
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after play with the demo set .... notice the picture display is sharper compare to with D90....

i think this D7000 weak point still on the video recording on focusing ... i think this part i can use my HD video cam sure will out perform any DSLR camera video function...
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 16 2010, 09:48 AM)
Make sure you get a brand new unit, a 100% new unit will prompt for the time and date during first time starting up.
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True.... The 1st unit I got is without the language, time zome, date and time settings. So I requested them to get me a new one, since I've paid then check, they go to other shop and pull stock frm there.


Added on November 16, 2010, 10:05 am
QUOTE(vios2002 @ Nov 16 2010, 10:02 AM)
after play with the demo set .... notice the picture display is sharper compare to with D90....

i think this D7000 weak point still on the video recording on focusing ... i think this part i can use my HD video cam sure will out perform any DSLR camera video function...
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I think DSLR video is indeed very nice. Especially the blurred out background when u take a single person's video. D7000 has no weak point now, hahaa... oni my unit got focus prob, going to fix it soon.

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post Nov 16 2010, 11:05 AM

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Thanks for the advise.... smile.gif

I'm not very concern about brand new or not because the shop I go regularly don't even have a demo set left... haha... First batch of the stock already gone, now waiting for Nikon to send in second batch... But regarding tge free gift, I ask here because if they try to tell me no free gift, then I can insist on getting it... hehehe...

Now I'm just waiting for the surprise phone call... smile.gif

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QUOTE(ccf1286 @ Nov 15 2010, 10:40 PM)
f1.8 50mm good one...i haf exising f1.8 35mm, but when i try to shoot in low light environment, the outcome is dark, when try to set ISO 1600 (Max for D3000), the outcome is blur..noise!

Therefore, for low light condition, fast lense or D7000 (ISO 6400) will help me the best?? *despite the budget first.
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The 35/1.8 is a very good lens, of course if you factor in price, then the 50/1.8 is even better. If you're shooting in very, very low light (like inside a pub or dimly lit restaurant), nothing is going to help you save a D3/3s/700; and a fast f/1.4 like the 24/35/50/85mm f/1.4 lenses. Then you have to ask yourself, is it worth the expense? How many percent of keeper shots do you stand to gain vs. the investment of close to RM8k, if you chose the cheapest option of D700 & 50/1.4. And then there is the issue of too shallow depth of field. Can you accept sharp eyes and blurred noses? Or how about sharp noses and blurred eyes? If you rely on AF in dark places these things happen more often that we wish it would. And those piggy cameras are 2x the weight of your current one. Would you be happy hiking with it? And those lenses... even piggier (if there is such a superlative word) than the cameras.

Now look at "buying" higher ISO. Now, say for instance the D3000@ISO1600 is about the same as D7000@ISO6400. You don't want that much noise. Then you would still use the D7000 at 3200. Or less than that. Remember that ISO6400 is 2x the sensitivity of ISO3200. Imagine you have to pay 2x the price for an increase from ISO400 to ISO800. Would you still consider it? Doesn't sound very attractive anymore, right? Don't be fooled by the big numbers. Essentially you'd be paying more than two times the price of the D3000 just so that you gain one stop or at most 2 stops of light sensitivity. Where is the economy in that?

That said, the D3000 and 35/1.8 I feel is more than sufficient for >90% of the situations you will be in. If there is not enough light, the answer is usually not having a faster lens, or having a higher ISO. The answer is to have more light. Maybe a bounced flash? Or if you're not shooting people, a tripod and slower shutter? Or if you're shooting people, perhaps you could move to somewhere with more light?

Upgrading your body and lens is not the way to go. Changing how you shoot; where you shoot; and paying attention to your light sources, now that makes for better photos. Learn and know your camera's limits, and learn to work within them, thats the reward of photography.

Of course, if money is no object, and a D7000 is pocket change, then by all means, buy it yesterday already.
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At least the Nikon bag and also a memory card, insist on that.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 16 2010, 11:10 AM)
At least the Nikon bag and also a memory card, insist on that.
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I think D7000@iso6400 is much better then D3000@iso1600, it's not usable at all!! hahaa.....
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I think D7000@iso6400 is much better then D3000@iso1600, it's not usable at all!! hahaa.....
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Haven't been shooting at 6400 ISO on D7000, maybe tonight really give it a test run. Hehe, yesterday the owner didn't want to lemme use cause she was so busy shooting T_T.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 16 2010, 11:22 AM)
Haven't been shooting at 6400 ISO on D7000, maybe tonight really give it a test run. Hehe, yesterday the owner didn't want to lemme use cause she was so busy shooting T_T.
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I'm so sad... till now also haven really shoot properly icon_question.gif , tonight will try to post some after servicing sad.gif
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i did some iso test on d7000. 100% crops

sorry if the crop too small to view

http://s744.photobucket.com/albums/xx85/ja...nt=100crops.jpg

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