I'll like to have a 5Ghz dual core TDP 125w CPU, where is that? Doesnt exist. 

I am quite curious why AMD Llano did not release a desktop 35w TDP version yet. Everybody know that Bobcat platform is great for HTPC, but itsnt great enough to be called perfect. no Blu-Ray 3D support

Intel SB 2100T is here already, all we need is a AMD LLano + better ATI driver to complete this.

I don't believe that Intel can sue, because their HT uses the same single core whereas AMD put down enough transistors to create two clusters. In any case, months ago, there were people that were sceptical that BD can give good performance numbers because of the HT comparison. That concern seems to have borne out and I hope that some hardware reviewers will test and report on that comparison.

Any proofs? If can then I got interest to kumpul $$ to buy bulldozer liao 

looks like cherry picked.

& notice how it doesn't pit gaming performance against 2600k.
we know that 2600k beats 980x in terms of gaming performance.

bear in mind, that FX 8150  has much higher default clock compared to 2600k.
it shud not just barely beating it, FX 8150  shud utterly annihilate 2600k, but it dint.
this don look so promising.

i am sick of AMD constantly playing in the "average" field.
i dun mind paying more for top range.

Average consumer dont really care about clock speed. as long as the price/performace is great. it will sell well.

Good point, but then the "avarage customers" won't even consider AMD, they trust brand more than anything else (price/performance). We have to admit that Intel really did a good job on marketing.

BD is the long awaited new architecture, & it carries the FX name.
i really wish it would b something more special.
a more knowledgeable user most probably will care about heat, & OC performance.
which meks them more likely to adapt to intel's offering.

a more so called average user who dun care about clock speed, then meaning they r too dumb & probably stick to the false idea of "AMD will over heat, better buy intel".

AMD is so small, Intel's R&D budget is larger than AMD's revenue.

As of Dec 2010:
Intel revenue = $43,623,000
Intel R&D = $6,576,000

AMD revenue = $6,494,000
AMD R&D = $1,405,000

References:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=INTC+Income+Statement&annual
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=AMD+Income+Statement&annual

For those who forget, revenue = profit + cost.

AMD vs Intel is like you fighting a man seven times your height.

Personally, I don't buy this crap.
Simply because I think each company should produce something to beat competitor's. To produce something to outpace competitors.
I don't think this is too much to ask for.
Just look at the competition of ATI vs nVidia over the years.

On one hand, they tell  "average user" doesn't need that kind of performance.
On other hand, they tell "average user" needs more cores.

Bullcrap. Hypocrites.

I'd say just let the performance of the product speak for itself.
We say "yay" if the product is good.
We say "boo" if the product is inferior.
Show us the performance. Show us the price. People will judge for themselves.

meh,if that the case with bulldozer i would skip HD7000 series
but still....HD6990 seem pretty interesting...apart then its non human noise produced

any suggestion which brand should i go with for HD6990?
and how much price increase?

If the real performance is so, it is not sucks.
FX-4150 will gives better gaming performance compared to i3 2100, considered a win already.

When the price is reasonable, everything will be fine.
No people will complain but instead, start recommending it.

loses pretty badly.....

just accept the fact....

calm down bro.. I was just saying this speaking from a general perspective

i was so excited about bulldozer also.. but its finally out and this is all they could do..

no one ever speaks about global foundaries when the blame should at least 50% on them. They are the ones who fabricate the cpus.. amd is an engineering company it can't build the whole thing it self..

you look at things from the end user perspective, "show me the product or get out"... just listen to the story, try to know WHY THEY FAILED.. the bulldozer u see today was not AMD original plan

this bulldozer focus on games performance or multitasking job?
i thought multitasking should be great on FX

Asrock's 990FX boards offer really good price for the features I'd say. Still wondering if the FX-4100 can be core unlocked on that board though. Why don't you try and give it a go with that? 

No you're wrong. The stars design is very old. BD does work, it was due to poor scheduling coupled with poor yield which caused the flop. Had they been able to launch their processors at the intended clockspeeds (> 4 GHz, at stock), they could've captured the mainstream market, leaving the high end to Sandy Bridge E.

Maybe for you, you don't need a BD but I am sure many people would find BD absolutely great. It's just the pricing that needs adjusting, especially in Malaysia right now. At ~$200, the FX-8120 is a steal, which many people would not agree because they want a chip for games! And games would not utilize so many cores, it's the IPC that matters in games most of the time. The price of a FX-8120 should be around RM650 based on today's currency exchange but retailers here are charging for RM768 based on lowyat's pricelist. That's the only factor that prevents me from purchasing.

Well because AMD promotes it as a gaming proc? Their demos with Dirt 3 showing utilisation of all the 8 cores? hmm

I think there is a huge improvement on the CPU just that Intel held back. IB is running on 77 TDP "could be largely factor by its IGP power consumption" and still performance slightly higher than SB.
with the disappointment on BD performance and power consumption and also not to overshadow SB-E probably the reason y Intel held back. Intel could make a 95 TDP IB but it would seriously destroy SB-E.
Anyway it just my opinion.
Regardless it is interesting to see Intel put more effort on its IGP and it just matter of times for intel to catch up with red camp and green camp.

I doubt so though. I still believe that they'd be using AMD gpu with IBM cell processors. Well, let's see how it turns out next year