bulldozer cant wait for official performance details

also price seems SANE. AMD the smarter choice indeeeed

hi bro

i try to run crash nitro kart on PS2 emulator was my fav game.. because now don have console.. do u know optimal settings? pls pm me if u r interested in sharing.

anyway many times before i don care about prices i ask my friends what is best cpu when want to buy a new pc.. but now i don care intel. always go for amd

the intel is almost always faster.. but how much extra need to pay for it? after a few times amd pay good price for cpu, then can save for gfx and others, now have brand loyalty amd dont care about intel anymore, because THIEF

amd already announce the second generation BD as well as THIRD

this is also good for intel customers.. competition = good prices

will try that thanks

This post has been edited by izzat80: Oct 9 2011, 07:46 PM

I'm using Athlon X2 4200+ ... runs most apps ok but not as fast as I want sometimes sluggish

was hoping bulldozer will be impressive... but its ok AMD try again I will wait for Bulldozer2, should be out early next year right?

I don care about having the fastest, just fast enough to run everything available today @ good price...

hope "AMD the smarter choice" will get back its meaning soon! NEVER INTEL, I will wait AMD just get busy and make a nice chip Ktkxbye

what about the improvements seen in windows 8?

what if bulldozer is not really bad, just that the software needs updates to use the new functions/hardware acceleration/whatever that is in the processor??

theres hope for some recovery?

wait for enhanced bulldozer, i think it will come out by beginning of 2012...



ur CPU is good enough for most things now.. unless u r into very heavy gaming.. just wait

all people blame and curse AMD, not knowing that global foundaries (the fab company amd uses) had serious issues, and bulldozer was one of the victims..

AMD always comes back ...

I dont know bro does it look like Im working with AMD?

I was just answering to the guy he already bought a AM3+ board and was asking what he should do..

Do you know what AMD did around the year 2003? thats when it revealed a CPU faster than the fastest intel.. it wasn't expected but they did pull it off and went way ahead of intel... it was called the FX series

intel has vast resources, amd has been losing money for a long time now. and the global foundaries mess up really hit them bad.. they are probably the cause of all the delays..

just look at BD 8120 and 8150.. the speed difference between the two chips is vast, do you know what this indicates? this tells the yeild on the 8120 units was bad, so had to be underclocked.. clearly an indication of a really messed up fabrication proccess (GLOBAL FOUNDARIES again)

from an engineering point of view, bulldozer is completely new and "IN THEORY" should have been great. but in pracise, amd has to rely on other companies to pull it together, and this case unfortunately some of its partners messed up and now everyone is shouting at amd.

and WHY OH WHY are you whining and complaining about per clock and all that? this is a stuggling company and I read what some of its people wrote.. I really hope they pull it together again, its good for everyone to have a good thriving AMD

The Smarter Choice

calm down bro.. I was just saying this speaking from a general perspective

i was so excited about bulldozer also.. but its finally out and this is all they could do..

no one ever speaks about global foundaries when the blame should at least 50% on them. They are the ones who fabricate the cpus.. amd is an engineering company it can't build the whole thing it self..

you look at things from the end user perspective, "show me the product or get out"... just listen to the story, try to know WHY THEY FAILED.. the bulldozer u see today was not AMD original plan

yes, FX was only used to smash intel with "fastest available" cpu.. using the branding with the current bulldozer is unwise.. but i guess they need a selling point.. only the name left?

yes I believe so as well.. thats why i suggested to the user who was asking what to do with his mobo to wait for enhanced BD. I think by then it will be refined and offers respectable performance..

it doesn't really matter if it was faster that the fastest fast CPU, just offers great performance to run everything available and good value.. then i'm buying

then again there's the optimization thing, on windows 8 with different sheduling (never spelled that word correct) the performance increase by what 10% ?!! thats huge it shows what optimised software can do...

just need to give it time to mature i'm sure amd will pull it off again just like in 2003

4.5 times?

look at market capitalization:

Intel: 121.40 Billion

AMD: 3.41 billion

now if you read my posts in this thread they will make more sense

...and so AMD long time customers will start the wait cycle again for enhanced-BD or NG-Bulldozer.. hopefully by that time globalfoundaries will optimise their fab process and AMD fine tune BD.. AMD the Smarter choice (not at the moment but soon)