AMD Bulldozer & Bobcat
AMD Bulldozer & Bobcat
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Oct 13 2011, 07:32 AM
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2,514 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: [Confidential] |
Demmit... should've gone for the i5 2500K or i7 2600K
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Oct 13 2011, 07:33 AM
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Bulldozer actually looks good as it inline to the kind of workloads I do often - lots of integer calculation.
The only disappointment is the power consumption. |
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Oct 13 2011, 07:56 AM
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1,095 posts Joined: Dec 2008 |
i think AMD's heading for entreprise market instead...
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Oct 13 2011, 08:02 AM
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hey guys,i really need your opinions..i'm clueless on what to do now,i already have a 990fx board for months now,i dont wanna have to change to sb coz then i'd have to buy a new board as well and thats gonna cost a lot..should i just buy a bulldozer just to complete my setup,or should i just change to intel? its still gonna be an upgrade for me tho,currently using a phenom ii x3 710. -was really hoping bulldozer would blow my mind,but it didnt
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Oct 13 2011, 08:28 AM
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577 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Borneo Headhunters |
I'd stick with Amd Phenom II unless there's a big improvement in gaming on the bulldozer which when it came time to play games the BD FX range was really no better than the Phenom II. Making me to wonder how well is the BD 6100 FX performs against Phenom II X6
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Oct 13 2011, 08:34 AM
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1,613 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Sg Long/Serdang |
QUOTE(najmul @ Oct 13 2011, 08:02 AM) hey guys,i really need your opinions..i'm clueless on what to do now,i already have a 990fx board for months now,i dont wanna have to change to sb coz then i'd have to buy a new board as well and thats gonna cost a lot..should i just buy a bulldozer just to complete my setup,or should i just change to intel? its still gonna be an upgrade for me tho,currently using a phenom ii x3 710. -was really hoping bulldozer would blow my mind,but it didnt well for me if u want save some buck u can stick with bulldozer but not for now because of insane price. Wait a while for the price to drop to level that consider fair compare to US. |
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Oct 13 2011, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 12 2011, 05:28 PM) http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Bulldoz...ps-203267.shtml Then AMD should've stopped the hype telling people that it's a FX revive.. AMD keep claiming that the performance will be mind blowing..This could be the reason. It was initially running @ 2.5GHz (3.5GHz turbo mode). The performance could be so bad until it did not make a single sense to market it at all. Yes, is indeed mindblowing, in a different way though. |
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Oct 13 2011, 08:52 AM
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261 posts Joined: Sep 2011 |
QUOTE(najmul @ Oct 13 2011, 08:02 AM) hey guys,i really need your opinions..i'm clueless on what to do now,i already have a 990fx board for months now,i dont wanna have to change to sb coz then i'd have to buy a new board as well and thats gonna cost a lot..should i just buy a bulldozer just to complete my setup,or should i just change to intel? its still gonna be an upgrade for me tho,currently using a phenom ii x3 710. -was really hoping bulldozer would blow my mind,but it didnt wait for enhanced bulldozer, i think it will come out by beginning of 2012...![]() ur CPU is good enough for most things now.. unless u r into very heavy gaming.. just wait all people blame and curse AMD, not knowing that global foundaries (the fab company amd uses) had serious issues, and bulldozer was one of the victims.. AMD always comes back ... |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:08 AM
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19,318 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang |
Just go on with PII and wait for Bulldozer 2 and see how it goes for now
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Oct 13 2011, 09:10 AM
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962 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: Kulai |
QUOTE(izzat80 @ Oct 13 2011, 08:52 AM) wait for enhanced bulldozer, i think it will come out by beginning of 2012... pfft.. u mean just 10% improvement on performance next year? while SB is already 40% more efficient and powerful clock for clock compared to current BD? how many years does it take amd to have a comparable cpu compared to current SB?![]() ur CPU is good enough for most things now.. unless u r into very heavy gaming.. just wait all people blame and curse AMD, not knowing that global foundaries (the fab company amd uses) had serious issues, and bulldozer was one of the victims.. AMD always comes back ... |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:14 AM
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1,111 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: UK |
AMD, im not impressed.
All the hype, gimmicks... |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:17 AM
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come on guys....atleast they did a new chip....dont need to marah2 to amd....they're working hard...lets just wait for the new gen to come out..but i think i'll just wait for the BD to price drop then i'll buy it...been waiting for long time...
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Oct 13 2011, 09:17 AM
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8,711 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan |
Dont forget by March 2012 Intel will release Ivy Bridge which is claimed to be 20% faster than Sandy.
The performance gap between these two will be widen by far margin, again. This post has been edited by owikh84: Oct 13 2011, 04:53 PM |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Oct 13 2011, 09:10 AM) pfft.. u mean just 10% improvement on performance next year? while SB is already 40% more efficient and powerful clock for clock compared to current BD? how many years does it take amd to have a comparable cpu compared to current SB? I dont know bro does it look like Im working with AMD? I was just answering to the guy he already bought a AM3+ board and was asking what he should do.. Do you know what AMD did around the year 2003? thats when it revealed a CPU faster than the fastest intel.. it wasn't expected but they did pull it off and went way ahead of intel... it was called the FX series intel has vast resources, amd has been losing money for a long time now. and the global foundaries mess up really hit them bad.. they are probably the cause of all the delays.. just look at BD 8120 and 8150.. the speed difference between the two chips is vast, do you know what this indicates? this tells the yeild on the 8120 units was bad, so had to be underclocked.. clearly an indication of a really messed up fabrication proccess (GLOBAL FOUNDARIES again) from an engineering point of view, bulldozer is completely new and "IN THEORY" should have been great. but in pracise, amd has to rely on other companies to pull it together, and this case unfortunately some of its partners messed up and now everyone is shouting at amd. and WHY OH WHY are you whining and complaining about per clock and all that? this is a stuggling company and I read what some of its people wrote.. I really hope they pull it together again, its good for everyone to have a good thriving AMD The Smarter Choice |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:19 AM
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19,318 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang |
AMD will have no choice but to slash the price of their current BD
What worries me is the amount of power consumed when stress at OC levels, it is astonishing high Thanks to its 2 B transistors This post has been edited by shinjite: Oct 13 2011, 09:20 AM |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:24 AM
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1,111 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: UK |
QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 12 2011, 07:54 PM) i'll leave this here. re quoting, what had people that bought the AM3+ Motherboards earlier, guess keeping the 955BE for now, HOPE that AMD's not changing sockets for the BD-so-called-enchanced by then. this is seriously how i feel about AMD now..... well, @ least the part about "bulldozer + fermi = electric bill would kill me" made my day.... |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:29 AM
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962 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: Kulai |
QUOTE(izzat80 @ Oct 13 2011, 09:19 AM) I dont know bro does it look like Im working with AMD? I was just answering to the guy he already bought a AM3+ board and was asking what he should do.. Do you know what AMD did around the year 2003? thats when it revealed a CPU faster than the fastest intel.. it wasn't expected but they did pull it off and went way ahead of intel... it was called the FX series intel has vast resources, amd has been losing money for a long time now. and the global foundaries mess up really hit them bad.. they are probably the cause of all the delays.. just look at BD 8120 and 8150.. the speed difference between the two chips is vast, do you know what this indicates? this tells the yeild on the 8120 units was bad, so had to be underclocked.. clearly an indication of a really messed up fabrication proccess (GLOBAL FOUNDARIES again) from an engineering point of view, bulldozer is completely new and "IN THEORY" should have been great. but in pracise, amd has to rely on other companies to pull it together, and this case unfortunately some of its partners messed up and now everyone is shouting at amd. and WHY OH WHY are you whining and complaining about per clock and all that? this is a stuggling company and I read what some of its people wrote.. I really hope they pull it together again, its good for everyone to have a good thriving AMD The Smarter Choice no to mention having twice the number of transistors compared to the faster and more efficient cpu.. i was hoping also that BD might give us a suprise, but now that it is not, i am now regret my decision to wait for BD before upgrading my old and trusty 3.5 years old q6600 |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(ben_panced @ Oct 13 2011, 09:29 AM) the smarter choice cpu dont sucks twice the amount of power the competitor's cpu consume while giving a lower performance at that.. calm down bro.. I was just saying this speaking from a general perspectiveno to mention having twice the number of transistors compared to the faster and more efficient cpu.. i was hoping also that BD might give us a suprise, but now that it is not, i am now regret my decision to wait for BD before upgrading my old and trusty 3.5 years old q6600 i was so excited about bulldozer also.. but its finally out and this is all they could do.. no one ever speaks about global foundaries when the blame should at least 50% on them. They are the ones who fabricate the cpus.. amd is an engineering company it can't build the whole thing it self.. you look at things from the end user perspective, "show me the product or get out"... just listen to the story, try to know WHY THEY FAILED.. the bulldozer u see today was not AMD original plan |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(izzat80 @ Oct 13 2011, 10:34 AM) calm down bro.. I was just saying this speaking from a general perspective They should call it Phenom2PLUS instead.Down with the FX name...i was so excited about bulldozer also.. but its finally out and this is all they could do.. no one ever speaks about global foundaries when the blame should at least 50% on them. They are the ones who fabricate the cpus.. amd is an engineering company it can't build the whole thing it self.. you look at things from the end user perspective, "show me the product or get out"... just listen to the story, try to know WHY THEY FAILED.. the bulldozer u see today was not AMD original plan Maybe its the new wimmen CEO |
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Oct 13 2011, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(Turnip @ Oct 13 2011, 09:46 AM) yes, FX was only used to smash intel with "fastest available" cpu.. using the branding with the current bulldozer is unwise.. but i guess they need a selling point.. only the name left? |
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