i am not sure if its the morale?
i mean these guys are professional......we are now in the 3rd game of the league and 5th competitive game of the season....
surely, these guys should be on fire, playing their hearts out....

Without getting into a tiring debate of tactics, i thought it was a very very average performance yesterday. Very very disappointing. I am hoping Cole will turn out to be the creative fulcrum. Can we rely on him being consistent then?

2 defensive midfielder at home against WBA?? what a joke! Sorry Roy, but I've seen this kind of over cautious strategy been used too often by our previous manager before. And why did you put the only creative player who can dictate the game and control the flow, too far forward as a 2nd striker especially when you got Pacheco, Babel or N'gog who can play in that position. Seems like players just kick the ball away and hoping something to happen. Absolutely there's no pattern in the build up play.. Can't wait for Meireles, Cole and Konchesky to start. And as for the CB, i'd prefer Agger than Skrtel.. Skrtel's man marking is poor, too prone of making silly foul in crucial area. Btw, Lucas should be offloaded comes January.. He's been too average.

OK that're all my critics for today..haha.. anyway, u can watch highlight here:
HIGHLIGHT LINK

pro or not, they still are human, the winning metality is really we need now to get winning momentum. i cant see high urgency in all players last night except 2 or 3 players.

we cant rely cole only, we need all players to be consistent. this is what chelsea and man utd players better than us. they have winning metality, confident and consistent.

1 lose is a blip, but most importance is how we bounce back after we lose.

i agree....they are still human....but surely......this is the famous red jersey they're donning...and we fans can expect more?

but its was a shockingly poor display......only a world class strike spared us the blushes...

so...where were the rest of the 6-7 players? what more urgency do they need? we might not have Chelsea + MU stars but surely, this is WBA we're talking about......coming from back of a 3-0 spanking by our major rival (for 4th place), at home against WBA..and we still need more urgency? sorry mate, find it hard to swallow...


Our midfield is just terrible...nobody worth watching.....Titles are always won with a superb midfielder or midfield paring...Lampard, Keane, Viera, Scholes, even our Molby and Whelan (very under-rated players) anchored Liverpool's midfield to glorious years...
I am not having a personal vendetta against Lucas....other players looked terrible too....but after 3 seasons, i am not convinced Lucas is up for it. and Poulsen looked average...very frighteningly average...

Cant help wondering if Roy can steal Arteta over from Goodison..or maybe Alonso will be a surplus and come back in January....nice dreaming for a Monday....no?

This post has been edited by nando: Aug 30 2010, 10:26 AM

a team which was trash 6-0 will try to do better in next game. and WBA did it very well yesterday. gerrard is not his form. we play 2 DM which were very average players. i hope Roy can learn something from last night game. maybe we can see different game when meireles, konchesky, and cole in.

and for diarra..i dont want M.Diarra, L.Diarra is better.

here's my take on things from what i personally saw last nite.


We were poor.very. to say that we eeked out a win is a major understatement. Albion had to more threatening chances to score compared to us where we only resorted to those Hollywood shots by Torres and Gerrard. Nothing against Agger but he's not cut out to play as a LB, unlike Carra who can play at RB and Agger isnt cultured to be a LB. Square pegs in round holes doenst work. and Skrtel is one lucky man to be not penalised for his fouls in the penalty area. I've seen many ref's give them, and the ref was quite lenient last nite. hence thats why I'd pick a pairing of Carra and Agger any day over Skrtel. Johnson put in his usual shift though i feel something isnt right about his performance just yet.Overall our defense is good just need Konchesky to slot in at LB and Agger replacing Skrtel and we're good and thank goodnes no more zonal marking on setpieces.

Now coming to ur midfield last nite...we lacked the cutting edge, no final balls and lacked creativity to break down WBA. not helped by the fact that we had 2 DM's in Lucas and Poulsen. Gerrard was mostly isolated trying to pickout a pass to Torres and when Torres get the balls Kuyt and Jova are a tad slow to join in the attack.and often we were crowded out by Albion's midfield.and was my eyes deceiving me ? did i see Torres playing on the right side of midfield last nite?

as i mentioned earlier post our teams begs out for some sort of creativity and I'm hoping Cole and Meireles can provide the much needed creativity because Poulsen and Lucas can defend but Im sorry they arent someone you'd look to pass to to launch an attack. to sum up this perfectly we were a typical English side last nite. kind of reminded me of Houllier's Liverpool. I know the season is still young, but Roy needs to inject more urgency into the side, It was like a pre-season match. and did anyone notice how quiet was Anfield last nite?

Torres he put in a shift and a hard shift that.Did you guys see how emotional was he after he scored that goal must have meant alot to him

and if rumors that we are interested in Llorente are true then i'd think it bodes well, though i cant help to think that we are slowly being mould into a Fulham type of side and if Llorente makes it to Liverpool i see him playing in the "Zamora" role at Liverpool. Kudos to Roy at least he's at least making the right substitutions and leaving out player on the field and not taking them out while we are chasing the game.

I wouldnt say our season is going to be filled with doom and gloom just yet. because what we put of last nite was not our first team yet. Im looking forward as to how we'll play once we have all of our first teamer's then probably it'll be a good time to pass out a judgement on Roy

all overlook darren bent
epl proven n reliable

penalty on 92 min also dare to step up

i wannnnt bent bent bent

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=8111&cc=4716

This post has been edited by ic3johan: Aug 30 2010, 11:10 AM

yeah...proven...but sometimes proven also failed at liverpool...keane for example

llorente??...yea right!!!..i bet we'll end up with carlton cole...Roy lovesssss english!!

sometime it's beyond to think that our big major problem that had us sink deep last season was becos our lack of creativity in the mid 3rd, n how do we respond tis season?,yes,,we loan out 1 of our best hope for creativity spark , n signed outdated rejected players instead ,, can somebody tell me wat the hell goin on here with RH?,,its still early thou, but comeon,,atleast try to play football when u at anfield..

we started wit 2 dm plus rarely put pass all together for 90 minutes, defender kept on looped the ball forward.it's killin me to watch, luckily we hav torres upfront, but if we want to make it to the champ league, we need more than luck, we needs quality play...

I think the tough and all rounder Raul Meireles is a indirect placement for Aquilani who has been loaned out. Meireles can run into attacking positions and track back/defend in the central midfield...which maybe in Hodgson's eyes is more versatile than the more attack minded, softer and injury prone Aquilani.

Once RH gets a Konchesky and striker, I guess our lineup is solid with some options and better depth than last season...provided our players stay healthy. Plus don't fret so much as Joe Cole is coming back soon...there will be creativity coming right at ya.

reading from all the post, I'm (we're) suppose to take comfort LFc 'win' at anfield against WBA.

WBA, the team which we in the past can almost send a second team & win comfortably. (attacking or defensively, whichever that suits the eye).

noting to add.





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painful game to watched last night. poulsen and lucas together in the middle is baffling.

i notice you are quite negative. you mind contribute something meaningful?

that Torres goal always beautiful to watch shud hv score tat 2nd one too

This post has been edited by kabuto rider kick: Aug 30 2010, 01:54 PM

Skrtel can easily conceded 2 penalties when defending corner kick time.

Torres clearly is not fully fit yet, not as usual pace.
Gerrard also not looks like fully fit.

Very average performance, a mid-table team performance.

Midfield has no control of the game with Lucas+Poulsen.

Need improvement in midfield area.

I'll bet my last dollar that language wasnt Rafa's failing and it certainly won't be the reason for Hodgson's success if he achieves anything. It's the second time you've mentioned this.

Fact: our team is so cosmopolitan, not everyone speaks good English anyway.

Fact: Rafa spoke better English than half our team. Think Aurelio, Insua, Arbeloa, Skrtel, Mascherano, Lucas, etc. Language is a problem in any cosmopolitan side today even if it's English.

Fact: even if all the players spoke perfect English, Rafa had Sammy Lee who speaks fluently in both English and Spanish to interpret on his behalf.

In conclusion, your argument that Hodgson will be a success just because he is English is weak at best, especially since English isn't the first language of most of the players.

Put more thought in for the sake of all Liverpool fans please.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Aug 30 2010, 04:00 PM

i dont think we should say RH is any super manager at the time being, forget what he did with fulham. some teams can have one off seasons...

would you bet fulham can at least make it to the semis of the europa this season if they qualified and RH still at helm?

RH is not a magician , even jose mourinho will take some time at real madrid , like last night 0-0 game

anyways, dont put up your expectations.

we are to finish better than last season at least, which we got 7th and europa with some luck from Portsmouth

we still need to improve, and alot of it i would say.

my dad who doesnt watch football laughed and switched the channel to badminton (he's a badminton fan). i dont blame him, it wasnt special enough for him to keep the channel on it

It is really worth to sacrifice one of highly rated youngster Dalla Valle for Konchesky? Sigh....

I really hope you know what are you doing RH. There is much better left back in the world which cost around that amount.....