I still believe lfc board is not willing to risk aqualani, in a way a good opportunity to bury rafa's trail.


On the note a the huang's pullout; I'm sure there will be a PR exercise to play down fans dissapointment, possibly even a put down that his bid falls short the clubs expectation.

Well, it now paves the way for hicks & gillett to buy LFc ... Oh I meant the yahya kirdi

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 22 2010, 02:25 PM

yeah, lets not be too carried away, RH's fulhamFC last season was credited with 1 Away Win.

i understand the season is long, I dont want to sound like I'm one of the few who will chime in "told you guys so"
I hate that. i would wish for things to turn out right for Liverpool FC. but clearly there are FAR too many outside distractions from the TOP that has made the club not as shinning beacon amongst the clubs in England.

excuses will be offered sure of having RH to bed in with LFc.

I for one like players like torres, monster masch. They have been shinning star players for liverpool, I never will call these players passionless. BUt its clear that there is an underlining discomfort in LIverpool amongst the players.

WE looked out of sorts against City. come on we are clearly quite similar players that would stride side by side against arsenal last week. RH tactics? Is it all masch fault? also are we missing cole?

Brighten up your eyes my fellow liverpool fans. I take caution we will have more of similar nightmare games like this if the situation up there doesnt improve.

I'm not the type to stand up first & critique javier. but its fundamental that liverpool look at themselves before we go bust ala LEEDs & Newcastle as before. Dont be too sure that it will not plague us (yet). I'm not a meassager of doom nor some fellow forumers here too but LFC needs a therapy session & they better do it fast.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 24 2010, 01:55 PM

i've said before IF liverpool avoids defeat in the first 5 games, we are on the right path.

2 games, no win yet. yes its too early to push the panic button. in my 30+ years supporting LFc, its this season I fear the most.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 24 2010, 12:21 PM

We at liverpool & the media seem to be in an concerted effort to 'britishise' Liverpool FC. I dont know, all i know my sentiments for Liverpool are running haywire cause I sense Liverpool may do a newcastle, we seem to be imploding within. aqualani, javier....


not good & we still have ya ya liverpool forumers.

i'm in for a prayer.


maybe we too need the voodoo doctors to shed those demons out.

the part about some silly old fart saying we need to spend to succeed rings true? or should we say we can manage with small squad but its just better effective tactics (ie RH employs to succeed to a degree with fulham) over the lone striker some dinky manager that looks like some fat spanish waiter employs tactically

it only goes to show how sad we have become.

i can accept that MC improved & giving us a hard time, maybe losing 1-2, 0-1 but 0-3 its a little more cause of alarm


truly sad

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 24 2010, 03:00 PM

I hope this is not reflective of things to come, against smaller (sorry everton & gang) teams 4-4-2 could work better, but against the bigger boys (oh i hate to now up MC to one of the lads above us) its almost impossible, its like RH going old (dated) school tactics.

We would be mauled in champions league employing such tactics. (thank goodness we aren't, to save us the indignity)




this is NOT funny. it doesnt bodes well of the Liverpool FC. Soon we'll be know as a mid table club like Fulham FC...
shit, deja Vu.

worried? who is Worried? To think of it the riches of the mega $$ MC struggled against 4-4-2 of spurs only 9 days ago walked & overan Liverpool FC yesterday. huh worried?


I'm pretty sure Javier Mascherano will be fined by liverpool as act of indiscipline (if its true that the media made known masch boycotts this game or coming games). But its the repercussion that when it ripples amongst the players that is far more damaging. LFc fans better be bracing for this.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 24 2010, 04:51 PM

agree, a true pro will give his all & his march does time & again but his family being unsettled is too much to ask for himself to commit 100%. its best LFc finds headway.

rafa made him & we got the best out of march. its pointless LFc to keep him.

he is under contract. he has put 100% passion in all liverpool games. he doesnt hold back.

but under the cloud of doubt & uncertainty (be it his unsettled wife or the shing bangs the boards plays), he does not do justice to himself much less TO liverpool by giving less than 100%.

if you are employed by a company in to medan, indonesia but your loved ones are having difficulties settling there, you come home to an empty home, no one to share your joys of wins or the agony in defeat.
one will lose the desire, to challenge oneself.

He march, can honour his contract, but i believe there will be less value for Liverpool FC in the end. what Liverpool FC is undoing now, releasing foreign players & some highly rated foreign players juniors in favour of more britishness may be the undoing of a great club. we arent arsenal but we recruit players worthy of Liverpool regardless country of orgin.

while i understand the 'creation' for more british based players but the speed of 'dismantaling' rafa legacy to "cut overheads" so that the owners can still grip, or prolong their stronghold for undeserved profit of sale.

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Added on August 25, 2010, 11:38 ami hear yahya kirdi is in the driving seat. very good pals of G&H esp one of the son.

it will be NO different if such news materialised that he succeed. its just digging a bigger black hole to what is already a leaking ship.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 25 2010, 11:45 AM

any sugardaddy (who has passion for football, attend games, would write clubs debt off) would be better than the yanks. i'm such an ar$ehead i reserve such criteria.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 25 2010, 11:51 AM

yours & some LFc fans version seem to contradict a host of fans that seem to think rafa



i would like to cut & paste lfc fans emails but that would be detrimental to the massive injustise how the fans round the world REALLY sees the failings for LFC.

http://www.football365.com/mailbox/story/0...6332938,00.html

i wholly agree that statements of Oliver Dziggel (Switzerland), Steven Charles, (Liverpool), daniel cohen.

I dont blame roy. He is Not the best candidate to ever manage LFC But the ONLY candidate amongst the rubbish candidates the owners have allowed.

We shouldnt have sack rafa would be a better option. We wer SO out of depth against MC. we have lost massively to the big guns before but there were critical stages in those match that could have gone either way. Rafa in his losing games with LFC, never lost without much real fight. Againsts MC we clearly looked like MID to bottom table team & massively headless against a newly assembled side who clearly didnt practice together for more then 2-weeks.

it pains me massively to see there are still some delusional LFc fans. we'll probably get some consolation win in the next games against lowly sides but its the totally out of sorts against teams that are our worthy adversaries

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 25 2010, 02:12 PM

exactly 1 season ago with all the constraints that was levelled on rafa, we started the season quite badly.
DEJA VU.

many of us have seen the signs. True LFC fan have seen year in year out. to dismiss IT's only 2 games & nothing concrete evidence that the season wont turn out like last year is pure nonsense.

We dont have the caliber of squad like Man Utd, they fugg up their early games (losses) but recovered the season with strong finishes ie champions or runners up.

if LFc dont check the gap or measure against the strengths of such clubs, we are double F*****.
big capital double F. as mentioned the next games against low clubs (expected to win) won't disguise the fact we are using only a tried excuse of relying on gerrard & torres. We have no aces, no joker to succeed the long season.

take away monster march, I see us finishing the lower half of the table. thats very, very, very sad for all the club stands for.

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Added on August 26, 2010, 1:04 pmfunnily, in some news reports where Mourinho was qouted, "LFc is getting worse, worse, worse". Mourinho was refering to the transfer situation AT Liverpool. (sell, sell then only buy)

Mischievously others picked it up & said it was aimed at rafa (methods). pleaze. Agree on last season's poor standings BUT 4 years with rafa did we get worse??, I remember all kind of records LFc achieved. no need to list them here, its all on record.

the only way RH can do NO worse then rafa on his FIRST season is miss top 4 & WIN Europa Cup in the same season. not too hard right??? (rafa did 5th & cemented a memorable miracle at istanbul)



Mourinho refuse to state the record straight is because by condemning the transfer policy at LFC publicly means on a record he agrees with rafa. AND trust me they day LFc have owners who will BACK the manager with funds, Mourinho WILL wholeheartedly agree then LFc IS worth managing.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 26 2010, 01:36 PM

very valid points.

to removed Masherano & kuyt (2 probably the 2 hardest working players, bar carra. though not key players would could single-hand win games, their contributions are still worthy & immensely treasured)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 26 2010, 02:05 PM

we have a couple of big players (world class/grade A++) who (desperately) wants to WIN trophies, well all LFc players wants to WIN trophies but in the back of these Grade A++ players minds, IS the team good enough now to even climb above 7th place.
sure they can try, & try & try again, but

can we blame them with all the shing bangs going on??

+1

we all acknowledge we have a good team. decent enough last 2 seasons to walk on top european teams. 4-1. 4-0s & several scores i cant remember. But like a well geared car, we need improvements of personels to chase the competition, if others were adding quad turbos, multi HP injections, Lfc cannot be too dependen on existing mods. We cant change the car, complete overhaul or better mods cant be back from the board, there was only how much we can keep up.

goodbye mascherano. thanks for the argentinian passion at LFc. its unfortunate we didnt have more CL big nights with you.

godspeed the little monster masch.

reading from all the post, I'm (we're) suppose to take comfort LFc 'win' at anfield against WBA.

WBA, the team which we in the past can almost send a second team & win comfortably. (attacking or defensively, whichever that suits the eye).

noting to add.





:cool2:

honestly i dont blame him not if any real LFC player is getting tired or disillusioned by the the lies Liverpool have been dishing out of late.




Happy birthday Shanks, We abandoned you before but didnt realise the true impact untill years later.

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Added on September 3, 2010, 1:47 pm+1

Masherano throws his every bit into his liv games.

he doesnt have to prove any thing to me.

I love liverpool FC but I have also been disillusioned with the saga that some fans in Malaysia take in that everything is FINE & dandy with the club. WHat the boards or the officials says is god like statement. I know nothing is what it seems but I trust the body language/players not playsing for us or where the standing (LFC) lies is truly quite reflective of how things have gone so wrong.

SO go ahead some of you in believing we are still a steady ship (you probably can tell I dont feel the same sentiments).

YNWA can be a double edge sword to some, some can used that to their means.

I love liverpool FC, however i wont standby injustice will voice out at times. LFC never always got it right. back then the LFc board relieved shankly of his managers post. did they get it right?
they certainly thought so.

only years later we celebrated what Bill Shankly did for LFC, but Shankly was never the same again.
His heart was forever with LFc.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 3 2010, 01:49 PM

fine owen did his time here but when we needed him he left.

in 2 occassions he could have returned, we waited & hope he would fend of newcastle offer after RMadrid, he didnt. (snub no 1). In the opportunity he could then leave newcastle after they were relegated, He choose to join the team He dreamed of playing. It was his great wish (dream) to play IN old trafford (he even said it while at LFC) (snub no 2). We never officially lobbied for his return (if as how some of you younger guys put it), but you can see both carra & gerrard was in favour (& wish) of his return to redeem his status.

Liverpool FC stance was 'cheap' as we sold for peanuts & RM asked for 2 times the value in return, IF he had snub Newcastles offer, then LFc can negotiate with RM. come on Owen came off the ranks of the junoirs at LFc, he became OWEN (the wonder kid) because of LFC.

so owen is owen. if you count the season he left us thats 3 times he snub us for 'better' clubs.
so owen is owen. thank you for th e 2 goals FA cup final. (we certainly would still needed your help, but hey there are bigger clubs to him than LFc.

I'm sorry but I'm begining to think some LFc fans 'mudah lupa'. oh thats right we believe the LFC board/owners & everything now RH has to 'tell' us.

I dont blame RH, he has done some couple of successes in the continent. Managing "LIVERPOOL' is dream come true, He is at an aged where knowing the circumstances that HE is given the opportunity of a lifetime. Its like someone offering you a million bucks to be here but under strict orders NOT to screw with the owners. RH deeply knows even with calibre, he seriously would not have been considered but in transition, he is asked to take the task.


as duke red mentioned, mascherano was a somebody even before he joined west ham. HE NEVER played for west ham (unused sub) cause the manager felt he didnt fit in his plans. We know both tavez & mascherano was used as a bait for some rich owner who wanted to buy into west ham. west ham 'never' officially owned the player (they never had the money to buy the argentina intenationals in the first place).

sigh what has LFc become? Even jose mourinho thinks LFc is a poison chalice. He wont even if offered (to manage) at the current (ownership) situation.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 4 2010, 04:18 PM