Maybe it is beyond the logic. That’s why it takes time to understand.

just let her be la. no point trying to add oil to the fire. have forgiveness

beyond logic?

what is logic?

not understanding is doesn't make it illogical

astro physics is not logical to most people, but the answer is there provided that you are serious in searching the answers like Hawkins

chezzball is a girl or guy?

Much metta my friend. Thanks.

Actually it is a very logical religion ( Cause and Effect/Action and Reaction ) but need some reading. Most malaysian chinese, myself included, were brought up in a mixture of Taoist and Buddhist environment which I believe confuses us as we grow up on what is Buddhism.

As mentioned by soul2soul, google or get a copy of "What Buddhists Believe" by Dr. K. Sri Dhammanada (link > http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/whatbelieve.pdf ).

"How To Live Without Fear or Worry / Why Worry ?" also by Dr. K. Sri Dhammanada was my starting point more than 20 years ago as it was written in simple English. Those days no internet lah and being "banana" could not understand books written in chinese. Sorry can't find a PDF copy but you can get a copy from the Buddhist Maha Vihara in Brickfileds KL. (If anyone has a PDF copy please provide the link. Thank you.)

This is a simple and wonderful book written in a uncomplicated way. It helped me understand more about life (and its problems that we all face along the way). Use it as a starting point, even if not for the religious aspect, as a guide to help you when you encounter problems/sadness.

For anything we want to learn we must start with "some" Foundation, no point questioning on more "advanced" topics like Nibbana, How to attain it, Do Buddhist believe in God ... as the answers might lead you to more questions. Just like how to give a concise reply to a question why some born Black hair, Brown hair, Yellow/Blonde or even white hair if the person asking has no knowledge of Biology/Science. One can give a general simple answer mother blonde, father blonde therefore child must be blonde but we know that is not always the case but to delve further the person asking might not understand.

I hope I don't come across as condescending but that is true in whatever we want to understand well.

ps. For those who prefer to listen instead of read, pls go to > http://www.dhammaloka.org.au/downloads/ite...rahmavamso.html Scroll through the talks on any topics that you are interested in. Ajahn Brahm is a very interesting speaker who will put a smile on your face. He is also uncomplicated and logical.

^ wall of text, but nice info

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BTW, does listening to mantras help although you're not reciting it?

it does but not as good as if you recited it.

Thanks for sharing the info. I already downloaded the PDF. I wish I can read it later when I free.

This post has been edited by POYOZER: Aug 20 2010, 03:16 PM

the most important retreat is the one you do in your daily life when facing people

restraining urself shouldnt only be in a retreat but also in daily life and in every moment. huhuhuu

if before and after retreat no difference then retreat is wasted

This post has been edited by Joey-kun: Aug 20 2010, 03:20 PM

Hu hu... you try before?

You're welcome. Try downloading one of the mp3 (choose any topic that interests you !) from the Ajahn Brahm link I provided above and listening especially when driving. Guarantee will make you smile.

Actually, that is a very good book to begin with in Buddhism. Would encourage you to read it first, it will give you a very good foundation in buddhism.

Ah.

My share that I find amazing:

I was chanting mantras (Prajna Paramita Hdraya Sutram, Manjusri, Great Compassion Mantra) during exams as you know. Then after a few days of doing it, a cricket came to my table. Would not leave. Walked around my notepad.

The next following day, a cicada came beneath my seat.

Another next day again, a moth with the size of my palm sitting directly beside my laptop.

Then I stopped chanting for the next few days, none came.

Hmm kind of weird but awesome lol.

so how can you gurantee that you doing retreat is not to hide from your problems?

and if you come out of the retreat and you find that you offend more people etc whats the point? The whole point is so that you get to train your mind to not harm others wat. also you gib bad PR: peepur see see say u sot sot after retreat u suka ka?

i've done a prostration retreat before. 10k prostrations over 3 weeks. sakit but still ok. Really gave me time to change my way of thinking and seeing things..

This post has been edited by Joey-kun: Aug 20 2010, 03:44 PM

Does it help to release the previous sins done?

I attended a retreat before. It was good. All demons in the closet.... hu hu..

Oh i've done retreats before. And i continue to do it after the retreat by holding the same mentality while dealing with people.


in a way yes because you disassociate away from the type of thinking that allows the 'sins' to manifest.


its like colon cleansing right? you can see the poop in your colon through the machine. while having a tube up your ass to suck them out huhuhu

I want to try, but...

just try. it could be a life changing experience


lol who's so free to expose yours? i'm still checking if mine is harming others you manage your own wan lah