QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 17 2010, 11:31 AM)
But to me that does not sound like removing it. More like preventing bad seeds to be planted.
A Brother once told the students in my University in a Dharma Talk that good karmic seeds act as a hook to the door that is going to slam against you (bad karmic seeds), hence preventing one from being slammed by the door (effect). Also he said that it'll all be there until one reached enlightenment.
Well perhaps it can be from a different perspective, but both do
does make sense.
the steps are to remove the seeds because Karma can come back in 4 different ways. For example a person who kills will be more inclined to kill in his future life and will be born in a place with a lot of violence. I forgot the exact term, need to go back and consult the text

karma is not everything. merits are more important as merits are the inclination to do good rather than just having something good.
QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 17 2010, 11:51 AM)
Some kamma are heavier, like committing matricide or patricide (killing parents), so the effect of this kamma may last a few lifetime like in the case of Ven Mahamoganalla.
Even good kamma that propels beings to the heavenly states (gods) will once day finish and they have to drop down to the human state or the evil destinies sooner or later.
Doing lots of good in this life will help us to be happy here and now, have a calm mind at death, and to reappear in good places after this life terminates. It's like putting more good kamma in our pockets, so the probability of striking a good kamma is higher.
correct but at the time of death you cant control which karma that will ripen so the most familiar karma will take over. But what is more important than just enjoying a smooth life is that we do something more with it rather than just existing.
QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 17 2010, 12:01 PM)
Oh that's new to me. I never knew Gods that ran out of good karmic deeds / seeds will drop down from their state.
Hmm Karmic stuff so wide.
What you said is in conjunction to the definition of impermanence I guess.
But personally the thought that the BAD karmic seeds will not disappear until reborn into Buddhahood kind of scares me to be honest

Yep, it is mentioned that only fully enlightened Buddhas can see and calculate a person's karma from start to end. Not even Bodhisattvas and arahats can see the full extent of a person's karma.
QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 17 2010, 01:55 PM)
Theravada suttas (tipitaka). In the Sutta Pitaka it was mentioned that Sakka (king of the gods) paid buddha a visit when he got depressed knowing he was going to die soon as a deva. There is also a story of a deva who panic after he saw his female playmates all disappear in front of him (apparently all took rebirth in Avici Hell after their kamma as gods finish).
The Abidhamma portion of the Tipitaka gave the lifespan of each gods, from a few million human years to a hundreds of thousands of Aeons (world cycles).
So the gods are not permanent, so warned by the Buddha.
It is said that when gods leave the heavenly realm, the suffering of that time is 16 times more of that of Avici, the hottest hell because its like everything is suddenly taken away. Those in the form and formless realms undergo more suffering because they can see where they end up after their good karma exhausts (which is, the hells) and they cant do a thing about it.
and oh yeah it would be helpful to know from you guys which school of Buddhism do we refer to because even though the teachings are the same but the viewpoints and focus on some subjects are noticeably different. It would be easier to reconcile and there will be less misunderstandings.
This post has been edited by Joey-kun: Aug 18 2010, 09:39 AM