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Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please
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soul2soul
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Aug 20 2010, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 20 2010, 03:20 PM) the most important retreat is the one you do in your daily life when facing people  restraining urself shouldnt only be in a retreat but also in daily life and in every moment. huhuhuu if before and after retreat no difference then retreat is wasted  Not like that. In daily life, of course the 5 precepts are important and it's the duty of all buddhists to keep the 5 precepts as best as possible. However, there might be people out there, who think they can go further to the 8 precepts (or 10 in noviceship) and to attempt to get some insight into the 4 noble truths. It's commendable and encouraged for those who are ready, to do so. You never know, that the Neyya class of individuals might just attend some Insight at the retreat, and might just penetrate into the 4 noble truths.
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 20 2010, 04:16 PM) just try. it could be a life changing experience lol who's so free to expose yours? i'm still checking if mine is harming others  you manage your own wan lah Working now. Unless it's during the weekends lor. How long is it? You said weeks right?
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Joey-kun
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Aug 20 2010, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 20 2010, 04:16 PM) Not like that. In daily life, of course the 5 precepts are important and it's the duty of all buddhists to keep the 5 precepts as best as possible. However, there might be people out there, who think they can go further to the 8 precepts (or 10 in noviceship) and to attempt to get some insight into the 4 noble truths. It's commendable and encouraged for those who are ready, to do so. You never know, that the Neyya class of individuals might just attend some Insight at the retreat, and might just penetrate into the 4 noble truths. sometimes its just very simple things like not shouting at the waiter who brought you the wrong food, or smiling and saying thank you to the sales assistants. And reducing arguments with friends, family and colleagues. Not littering. not doing things that would cause inconveniences to others in any way. things like that. very simple.
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Joey-kun
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Aug 20 2010, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 04:17 PM) Working now. Unless it's during the weekends lor. How long is it? You said weeks right? mine was asked by my teacher to do it. there are other ways of retreat like reciting sutras or mantras, water offerings, prostrations etc
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 20 2010, 04:20 PM) mine was asked by my teacher to do it. there are other ways of retreat like reciting sutras or mantras, water offerings, prostrations etc Hmm. I'll go with the reciting sutras then.
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Joey-kun
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Aug 20 2010, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 04:26 PM) Hmm. I'll go with the reciting sutras then. the main point is to retrain your mind to think in a way where it becomes less selfish.
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soul2soul
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Aug 20 2010, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Palmolive Thermal Spa @ Aug 20 2010, 04:11 PM) oh, where was it? is it in malaysia? East Malaysia, flew there. Few months ago. My first time. Was a bit tough at the beginning. THe 8 precepts part was ok, but got disturbed by many newbies who weren't serious and kept talking ... zzzzzz But met some exemplary lay buddhists (male and female), and was very encouraged to cultivate like them. This post has been edited by soul2soul: Aug 20 2010, 04:37 PM
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 20 2010, 04:30 PM) the main point is to retrain your mind to think in a way where it becomes less selfish. Ahhhhhh.
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xecton
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Aug 20 2010, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(Palmolive Thermal Spa @ Aug 20 2010, 03:16 PM) the thread reads retreat but there is no information whatsoever about retreats.  anyone interested for a short length retreat (10days+) let's discuss about it. we can zerg rush kuantan's dhamma malaya or penang's MBMC. Hmm... isn't MBMC rather infamous for temple politics (you know, like office politics)?
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Joey-kun
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Aug 20 2010, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(xecton @ Aug 20 2010, 04:39 PM) Hmm... isn't MBMC rather infamous for temple politics (you know, like office politics)? politics is everywhere lah. we're in samsara wat. it's one of the features. temple got politics..whats new? just avoid and get on with your personal practice. If u kena involve take the decision that benefits the most people. end story.
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soul2soul
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Aug 20 2010, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(xecton @ Aug 20 2010, 04:39 PM) Hmm... isn't MBMC rather infamous for temple politics (you know, like office politics)? don't get involved in temple politics. When it comes to money / committee / power , sure will got some politics. Our job is to help as we can , go there listen to dhamma lectures, learn some meditation (if got teachers), enough. Not our duty to police the monks (some lay people do that!!).... This post has been edited by soul2soul: Aug 20 2010, 04:43 PM
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xecton
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Aug 20 2010, 04:46 PM
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That's why I prefer smaller temples. Less of such nonsense. The bigger the group, the dirtier it gets.
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Joey-kun
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Aug 20 2010, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 20 2010, 04:42 PM) don't get involved in temple politics. When it comes to money / committee / power , sure will got some politics. Our job is to help as we can , go there listen to dhamma lectures, learn some meditation (if got teachers), enough. Not our duty to police the monks (some lay people do that!!).... QUOTE(Palmolive Thermal Spa @ Aug 20 2010, 04:42 PM) haha, just go there for the environment and keep to yourself. it's easy to stay out of their way. temple politics are very strong in myanmar meditation centres too. *plugs his teacher here* http://www.kechara.com/publications/public...nment-for-sale/how to deal with temple politics 101: the official buddhist way where everyone wins.
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Joey-kun
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Aug 20 2010, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(xecton @ Aug 20 2010, 04:46 PM) That's why I prefer smaller temples. Less of such nonsense. The bigger the group, the dirtier it gets. small temple oso got. big temple oso got. company also got. friend groups also got. with relatives oso got. family also got. u wanna run to where?! isnt it better to just learn how to deal with it and handle it accordingly? This post has been edited by Joey-kun: Aug 20 2010, 04:48 PM
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 04:58 PM
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OT -- I somehow hijacked Single's Club into few pages of Buddhism chat @_@
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Joey-kun
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Aug 20 2010, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 04:58 PM) OT -- I somehow hijacked Single's Club into few pages of Buddhism chat @_@ hahahahaha its okeh. spreade the worde
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 20 2010, 05:29 PM
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Over there there's an interesting one. What's the difference between: parinirvana and buddhahood.. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=35745145
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xecton
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Aug 20 2010, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 20 2010, 04:47 PM) small temple oso got. big temple oso got. company also got. friend groups also got. with relatives oso got. family also got. u wanna run to where?! isnt it better to just learn how to deal with it and handle it accordingly? I maneuver around office politics because I need to cari makan. But there is no reason for me to stand for holier-than-thou people squabbling about petty issues. QUOTE(Palmolive Thermal Spa @ Aug 20 2010, 04:54 PM) yea, a lot of tai tais went to the last retreat i went and couldn't stop talking even there's a big no talking sign. very strong habits haha. oh, you do retreats too? how was it? Er...... no. But there was one time when I had a serious issue at work that I considered going for one, in Kelantan. But never did. This post has been edited by xecton: Aug 20 2010, 05:32 PM
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Joey-kun
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Aug 20 2010, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Aug 20 2010, 05:29 PM) Over there there's an interesting one. What's the difference between: parinirvana and buddhahood.. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=35745145parinirvana is a state of cessation of suffering buddhahood is a state where the being can benefit all beings in every way.
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Maxieos
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Aug 20 2010, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 20 2010, 09:01 AM) Those who rojak Buddhist and Christian cannot make up their damn mind... lolol Both are the same if you read more QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 20 2010, 04:30 PM) the main point is to retrain your mind to think in a way where it becomes less selfish. and to NOSelf which it's equivalent QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 20 2010, 04:47 PM) *plugs his teacher here* http://www.kechara.com/publications/public...nment-for-sale/how to deal with temple politics 101: the official buddhist way where everyone wins. You dont need temple politics it if you are practicing noself.Just obey order , that simple.Dont go complicated
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