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 VW Golf 1.4TSI,Scirocco1.4,Polo 1.2TSI, Volkswagen Cars Discussion.Das Auto!

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Mavik
post Jan 2 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(poyo @ Jan 2 2011, 05:31 PM)
Aaaauuuwwww still no Park Assist and DRL... sad.gif

2.6% - 3% eh, woooh kinda high for a brand new car lol.
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Er how low do you want the interest rates to be? You might be able to negotiate for a lower rate if you get a shorter loan. Otherwise get the beetle and u can get 1.18%
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post Jan 2 2011, 07:11 PM

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I can't recall which new cars was it, but if I'm not mistaken, I thought new cars can get better rates. Sorry for I was merely asking to know more, that's all.
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post Jan 3 2011, 02:24 AM

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It also depends on which car or dealer you go to. For example, I know the Pug 308 can get around 2.6% interest
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Jan 2 2011, 02:02 AM)

175 Nm @ 1550rpm, + DSG..... bmw 320i struggled to keep up.
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I did some approximate calculations and here are the results of the power bands between the Polo 1.2 TSI and Civic 1.8S:

1,550rpm = Polo (38hp), Civic (31.57hp)

3,000rpm = Polo (73.7), Civic (68hp)

4,000rpm = Polo (98hp), Civic (95hp)

5,000rpm = Polo (105hp), Civic (119hp)

6,000rpm = Polo (102hp), Civic (139hp)

Calculations were based on torque output at the given rpms (converted from Nm to pound foot) x rpm, then divided by 5252.

So, this explains the "seat of the pants" feeling of driving a turbocharged Polo TSI at anything below 4,000rpm and in that sense I can concur that driving the Polo around town can be compared to a 2.0-litre NA car; however for acceleration and top speed you can see that the Civic is no slouch here. The main difference is not because of the turbocharging, but the fact that the Polo is just slightly over 1 tonne while the Civic is heavier at 1.24 tonnes. No need to mention about transmission loss, as the Civic's 5AT only robs approximately 20% of power to the wheels, which is very close to that of a manual tranny.

If you look at this vid, you'll see that the lack of low end torque doesn't impede the Civic, as the gears are designed to upshift at around its max torque output for flat out driving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkdUURkcZ9c&feature=related

Nonetheless, that @$$-shoving low end torque of the Polo is more fun as a daily driver. If only the seats weren't so cramped lol...



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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 3 2011, 04:00 AM)
I did some approximate calculations and here are the results of the power bands between the Polo 1.2 TSI and Civic 1.8S:

1,550rpm = Polo (38hp), Civic (31.57hp)

3,000rpm = Polo (73.7), Civic (68hp)

4,000rpm = Polo (98hp), Civic (95hp)

5,000rpm = Polo (105hp), Civic (119hp)

6,000rpm = Polo (102hp), Civic (139hp)

Calculations were based on torque output at the given rpms (converted from Nm to pound foot) x rpm, then divided by 5252.

So, this explains the "seat of the pants" feeling of driving a turbocharged Polo TSI at anything below 4,000rpm and in that sense I can concur that driving the Polo around town can be compared to a 2.0-litre NA car; however for acceleration and top speed you can see that the Civic is no slouch here. The main difference is not because of the turbocharging, but the fact that the Polo is just slightly over 1 tonne while the Civic is heavier at 1.24 tonnes. No need to mention about transmission loss, as the Civic's 5AT only robs approximately 20% of power to the wheels, which is very close to that of a manual tranny.

If you look at this vid, you'll see that the lack of low end torque doesn't impede the Civic, as the gears are designed to upshift at around its max torque output for flat out driving:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkdUURkcZ9c&feature=related

Nonetheless, that @$$-shoving low end torque of the Polo is more fun as a daily driver. If only the seats weren't so cramped lol...
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Wow... so many numbers!!! I guess no one will really care. Just 'tekan' and feel the rush lor. No need to compare here compare there. See it, like it, buy it, then enjoy it. No use comparing because there's always something a class above, no matter how good it is. Stop thinking about it and enjoy your ride. Been to KL yesterday and I saw sooooooooo many VW around... as compared to small town Ipoh.
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QUOTE(futobuta @ Jan 3 2011, 10:38 AM)
Wow... so many numbers!!! I guess no one will really care. Just 'tekan' and feel the rush lor. No need to compare here compare there. See it, like it, buy it, then enjoy it. No use comparing because there's always something a class above, no matter how good it is. Stop thinking about it and enjoy your ride. Been to KL yesterday and I saw sooooooooo many VW around... as compared to small town Ipoh.
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yayay futobuta, agree with you. yesterday (sunday) around 10am saw 2 polo (white and yellow) at sri damansara Paparich, is that a small gtg?
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QUOTE(jerrychiang @ Jan 3 2011, 10:53 AM)
yayay futobuta, agree with you. yesterday (sunday) around 10am saw 2 polo (white and yellow) at sri damansara Paparich, is that a small gtg?
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There is one on the 7th of January smile.gif Check back a couple of pages and reply there
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@gregy: always enjoy reading your (very!) analytical posts. thanks for the facts & figures biggrin.gif
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Cant be me then, my car is only about 2 months old, and the kit only went in last week. As far as i know..there is only 1 other blue Roc with the R bumper, most ppl go for the ABT/Rieger combo


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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 2 2011, 11:35 AM)
Nah the next batch will not have park assist. No idea yet it will have the DRL lights. Yes next batch will have to be around March or later because it will be a 2011 manufactured car.

Interest rate? Depends on which bank you take from N how long the loan. Around 2.6%-3%
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u mean the golfs coming on march will not have the park assist feature like the one we're having now ? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(farmcow @ Jan 3 2011, 02:01 PM)
u mean the golfs coming on march will not have the park assist feature like the one we're having now ?  shocking.gif
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No, the park assist I was quoting is the one which automatically parks your car for you and not the Optical Parking Sensor that we get.

http://paultan.org/2008/10/17/volkswagen-t...le-in-malaysia/
http://fooyoh.com/car_video/watch/PS2eQCaTtR4
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 3 2011, 02:12 PM)
No, the park assist I was quoting is the one which automatically parks your car for you and not the Optical Parking Sensor that we get.

http://paultan.org/2008/10/17/volkswagen-t...le-in-malaysia/
http://fooyoh.com/car_video/watch/PS2eQCaTtR4
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Yeah, I did ask when I ordered mine last time. Seems like that option together with the flip reverse camera is just too expensive to add into the package. But if u ask me, I prefer them to add in the RNS510 instead of the parking thing. I mean...... parking....... aiyah... slowly do ourselves lor. nod.gif
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QUOTE(futobuta @ Jan 3 2011, 04:13 PM)
Yeah, I did ask when I ordered mine last time. Seems like that option together with the flip reverse camera is just too expensive to add into the package. But if u ask me, I prefer them to add in the RNS510 instead of the parking thing. I mean...... parking....... aiyah... slowly do ourselves lor. nod.gif
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Agreed. Parking can do ourselves. RNS510 is a good option to have and also choice of rims. Did they say if the RNS510 could be factory added? Last time I asked is a no.
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Ooouuuhh and here I thought we Malaysians got shortchanged! So there are options available? I got the brochure online but sadly the brochure did not state what other options available for the Golf. Can u guys list out what options available at the costs involved as well? Thanks!
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Ooouuuhh and here I thought we Malaysians got shortchanged! So there are options available? I got the brochure online but sadly the brochure did not state what other options available for the Golf. Can u guys list out what options available at the costs involved as well? Thanks!
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Man I got duped big - time! I heard that now there's only the Light and Sound package right?

I'm still waiting for my pals to update me about the upcoming March stocks on whether there will be other options like the DRL etc [ only thing I know right now that there will be Golfs with the L&S package, and Golfs without it ]. But the Mk 7 might be coming out in late 2012!

I also heard that we cannot do a custom leather job right?

No splash guards? Can't even buy it here? Now this ain't nice.
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QUOTE(poyo @ Jan 3 2011, 05:07 PM)
Man I got duped big - time! I heard that now there's only the Light and Sound package right?

I'm still waiting for my pals to update me about the upcoming March stocks on whether there will be other options like the DRL etc [ only thing I know right now that there will be Golfs with the L&S package, and Golfs without it ]. But the Mk 7 might be coming out in late 2012!

I also heard that we cannot do a custom leather job right?

No splash guards? Can't even buy it here? Now this ain't nice.
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Nobody dupe u into anything. What they offer or provide, they have stated clearly. As for DRL, spalsh guard, etc...... if u have the money, ANYTIME also can add. Regarding the Mk7, well, the chase is never ending. There'll be a Mark 7, and after that Mark 8 and so on. Just buy it when u need it. Then there'll be no regrets. Of course nobody is asking u to buy it when u know fully well that they're launching a new model in a month's time lah. doh.gif Unless of course they're giving u a really huge discount to cover your 'loss'. brows.gif
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Okay now I got to make it clear.

I said I got duped, because I THOUGHT there were options available that was not stated in the online brochure.

Yes, NO ONE is asking me to buy it if I know the latest model is coming in a month's time.

I don't know about VWs, hence the questions. doh.gif

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We all learn from one another biggrin.gif As long we don't bash one another thats fine. Its all a learning experience. Same here for me as well. Had no info about VWs until I kena poison by my friends.

In terms of accessories, there are plenty of means and ways to get them. Talk to the SA from the dealers and they will provide you with a list of them. Do note that the prices there would be higher. If you went back a couple of pages, a good example would be the MDI-iPod cable. I bought mine from eBay for 10pounds, one forumer was quoted RM270 for it and another got it free from his dealer. Plenty of poison about thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Jan 3 2011, 05:47 PM)
We all learn from one another biggrin.gif As long we don't bash one another thats fine. Its all a learning experience. Same here for me as well. Had no info about VWs until I kena poison by my friends.

In terms of accessories, there are plenty of means and ways to get them. Talk to the SA from the dealers and they will provide you with a list of them. Do note that the prices there would be higher. If you went back a couple of pages, a good example would be the MDI-iPod cable. I bought mine from eBay for 10pounds, one forumer was quoted RM270 for it and another got it free from his dealer. Plenty of poison about  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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I did call up VW one day and talked to them regarding the RNS510. I asked them is it ok if we installed it into our cars. The person I spoke to said it will still void the related warranty if it is not bought directly from them, even if it is installed by any of their dealers (it seems there not allowed to install for us as well). So I asked, if we could buy from VW Malaysia instead. He said it is possible.. but the price is VERY expensive compared to the 4k which is currently being charged for the recon unit.

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