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post Sep 13 2010, 08:27 AM

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Screen shot of benchy on recently acquired Sata 3 128GB ssd:
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post Sep 13 2010, 10:40 AM

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What SSD was that? And the read speed exceeds SATA 3.0 Gbps.
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 13 2010, 10:40 AM)
What SSD was that? And the read speed exceeds SATA 3.0 Gbps.
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Bro, Crucial SATA III 128GB SSD.
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.asp...FDDAC128MAG-1G1
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 13 2010, 10:40 AM)
What SSD was that? And the read speed exceeds SATA 3.0 Gbps.
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SATA3 has 6Gbps theoritical bandwidth, should see around 580~600MBps peak in practical use, that benchmark probably hitting 60%+ of the total bandwidth, so it's ok.
RAID0 few of it and hit the max.
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:43 AM

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Oh, thaaaat "SATA 3". Okay, confusion cleared up.
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post Sep 14 2010, 03:34 PM

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Thinking to get 64GB kingston ssd V series, is it using jmicron controller? Or it's using toshiba one?
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post Sep 14 2010, 04:02 PM

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The SSDNow used two JMicron controllers. The 608 are crap and the 618 are fine.

JMicron 618 controllers (okay):

SNV425-S2/64GB
SNV425-S2/128GB

JMicron 608 controllers (boycott) which should be phased out by now:

SNV125-S2/64GB
SNV125-S2B(N/D)/64GB
SNV125-S2/128GB
SNV125-S2B(N/D)/128GB
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:34 AM

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Hi All,

Can someone recommend me the FASTEST READ of SSD in the market ?
I need,
- Single Drive (not planning to do RAID)
- Capacity can be small, just install Windows 7 with no games.
- Price not an issue.
- Using SATA 6.0Gbps port (fit to the latest mobo with SATA3 port)
- Write Speed not too critical, but preferred.

Any thing in market / online can buy these ?
thanks smile.gif
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:39 AM

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The so-called "SATA 3" is SATA 6.0 Gbps.

Do you have any specific reason to need the fastest read SSD? Because any decent SSD should be good enough.
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(malayneum @ Aug 26 2010, 10:41 PM)
so SSD is still an immature technology.
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How come say that ? I thought & someone here also saying that the SSD is still more reliable than the BEST HDD now.
Agree ?

QUOTE(zhuan97 @ Aug 29 2010, 08:48 AM)
anyone using Intel X25-V 40GB? i plan to buy it as Win7 boot drive, price is RM360 now.

btw, the 1st SATA3 6Gb/s SSD, Crucial C300 64GB @ RM600.
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Where can buy now the Crucial C300 64GB ? LYP ?
RM600 come with Data Transfer Kit ? Got the model with the Data Transfer Kit one ? How much ?
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post Sep 15 2010, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 15 2010, 12:39 AM)
The so-called "SATA 3" is SATA 6.0 Gbps.

Do you have any specific reason to need the fastest read SSD? Because any decent SSD should be good enough.
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Oh, I just using for Windows & Software only, mostly need READING speed.
If I want find a FASTEST READ & WRITE, then it will be headache for me, hard to choose & not much model came with both good read & write speed.
That's why I better look for the BEST READING speed is enough, save my headache. rclxub.gif

I'm still doubt about the realibility of a SDD over HDD.
Anyway, the drive will sit in my casing, & won't move, so, no worry about dropping & spoil for HDD.
I give myself to use a single HDD/SDD maximum to 4 years, then I will replace it to newer drive. For OS & Data drive too.

Someone here say SSD is more reliable & some say opposite.
So, is there any reliable facts to read about ?

thanks.
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if you know how to protect your HDD they run for many many years. I have still have two 10years+ old Quantum HDDs still running without bad sectors. One is a 4GB Quantum Bigfoot. it is a 5.25 inch HDD. U cant find these kind of form factor HDD these days. No bad sectors. This HDD is 12years old heading toward 13 years old.
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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Sep 15 2010, 12:48 AM)
Oh, I just using for Windows & Software only, mostly need READING speed.
If I want find a FASTEST READ & WRITE, then it will be headache for me, hard to choose & not much model came with both good read & write speed.
That's why I better look for the BEST READING speed is enough, save my headache. rclxub.gif

I'm still doubt about the realibility of a SDD over HDD.
Anyway, the drive will sit in my casing, & won't move, so, no worry about dropping & spoil for HDD.
I give myself to use a single HDD/SDD maximum to 4 years, then I will replace it to newer drive. For OS & Data drive too.

Someone here say SSD is more reliable & some say opposite.
So, is there any reliable facts to read about ?

thanks.
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like previous post, it depends. ssd is more prone to write limitation. but it can be considered a myth.

head over to http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html

regarding your faster read > write. Your decision should be based on controllers. There are lots of controllers floating around. intel / indilinx / sandfore / i dont even care. lol . mayb iops matters but i dont have the time to dig for such info.

read and write currently are more or less few MB difference. What you should look at other than controller is maximum achieved by sata 2 or sata 3. the later obviously owns.
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which is the cheaper ssd?
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post Sep 15 2010, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(zsnipes @ Sep 15 2010, 12:48 AM)
I'm still doubt about the realibility of a SDD over HDD.
Anyway, the drive will sit in my casing, & won't move, so, no worry about dropping & spoil for HDD.
I give myself to use a single HDD/SDD maximum to 4 years, then I will replace it to newer drive. For OS & Data drive too.

Someone here say SSD is more reliable & some say opposite.
So, is there any reliable facts to read about ?
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I can't answer your question about which SSD to pick. But regarding reliability, other than the words of the manufacturers, I don't think SSDs have been around long enough for us to objectively say yea or nay regarding reliability. Personally, I think they're reliable.

QUOTE(billytong @ Sep 15 2010, 10:10 AM)
if you know how to protect your HDD they run for many many years. I have still have two 10years+ old  Quantum HDDs still running without bad sectors. One is a 4GB Quantum Bigfoot. it is a 5.25 inch HDD. U cant find these kind of form factor HDD these days. No bad sectors. This HDD is 12years old heading toward 13 years old.
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Considering the data density of the old drives, as long as the materials are good, I'm not surprised that they would outlive more modern hardware. As modern hardware tends to push the limits to the maximum.

QUOTE(selikatwo @ Sep 15 2010, 10:50 AM)
which is the cheaper ssd?
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If going by price per GB, definitely the Kingston SSDNow V Series G2 128 GB. You can refer to my earlier price analysis. Just be sure to double check and maybe check the Garage Sales, as I might have missed good bargains or it simply outdated.
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Hi Bro, can i ask why i can't trim my ssd using the intel toolbox? I am currently using Intel 160GB SSD and upgraded the version. Hope to get your reply soon. blush.gif
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QUOTE(Sole @ Sep 15 2010, 03:29 PM)
Hi Bro, can i ask why i can't trim my ssd using the intel toolbox? I am currently using Intel 160GB SSD and upgraded the version. Hope to get your reply soon. blush.gif
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are you using the first gen intel ssd?

iirc, 1st gen does not support trim
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I brought it in may something is it counted as 1st batch?
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Check your drive serial.

If it ends in G1, it's 1st Gen and you're screwed. Join a group of disgruntled owners online and sign a petition and hope that Intel gives a hoot about your drive.

If it ends in G2, try using a benchmark tool to see whether TRIM is enabled.
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QUOTE(dtdw @ Sep 15 2010, 10:41 AM)
like previous post, it depends. ssd is more prone to write limitation. but it can be considered a myth.

head over to http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html

regarding your faster read > write. Your decision should be based on controllers. There are lots of controllers floating around. intel / indilinx / sandfore / i dont even care. lol . mayb iops matters but i dont have the time to dig for such info.

read and write currently are more or less few MB difference. What you should look at other than controller is maximum achieved by sata 2 or sata 3. the later obviously owns.
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agree. Controller also another things to search.... sad.gif anyway, i rather save my time then...

QUOTE(everling @ Sep 15 2010, 11:13 AM)
I can't answer your question about which SSD to pick. But regarding reliability, other than the words of the manufacturers, I don't think SSDs have been around long enough for us to objectively say yea or nay regarding reliability. Personally, I think they're reliable.
Considering the data density of the old drives, as long as the materials are good, I'm not surprised that they would outlive more modern hardware. As modern hardware tends to push the limits to the maximum.
If going by price per GB, definitely the Kingston SSDNow V Series G2 128 GB. You can refer to my earlier price analysis. Just be sure to double check and maybe check the Garage Sales, as I might have missed good bargains or it simply outdated.
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in my view, i think reliability of SSD is very depending on our power supply which juice the power of SSD,
if the Power is dirty or clog, i think it will spoil the SSD easily. This I based on my experience on our normal Flash Drive usage.
what do u think ?

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