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The Solid State Storage Thread
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billytong
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Aug 22 2010, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(everling @ Aug 21 2010, 06:35 PM) The lifespan of an SSD really isn't an issue for most home users. At 5,000 write cycles for an 80GB SSD, in a perfect use, it will accept 400,000 GB of writes or 219 GB of writes a day for 5 years. Even taking the write amplification factor, which TRIM partly mitigates, into consideration, you should still be able to write 100 GB a day (20 GB more than capacity) for five years before failure. To lose your SSD to wear and tear, you would have to fill up your SSD every single day for five years! Wear and tear is not a real problem. It is no question that SSD is realiable nowadays. Actually I think from a consumer point of view, we are more interested in the reliability of SSD as a whole. (whole thing, include the connectors, circuit board.) instead of the SSD chip itself. if they are soo certain about all that. Why cant they just give 5 years warranty. Anyway, I am still sticking to HDD, unless SSD start selling price as low as RM100 like HDD. *regardless of capacity. I am fine with 20GB @ RM100. This post has been edited by billytong: Aug 22 2010, 12:31 PM
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billytong
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Aug 26 2010, 05:20 PM
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Well 0.5 USD per Gigabtye or not. It is unlikely I will buy SSD unless their minimum price is priced close to HDD price now. ~RM100-200
Which gonna take a while.
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billytong
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Aug 27 2010, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(dtdw @ Aug 26 2010, 11:54 PM) Not sure where i've sourced it but prices are gonna fall to USD 1/gb by end of this year. This is more than moores law. It's kinda like an explosion. Lightspeed may hit the market way slower, because when enterprise ssd becomes consumer grade = 500mb+ read/write. okay off topic. Anyway to the person who says let it hit RM 100-200. I'd say when it hit 1gb/dollar, it is a good time to buy. Think of it as PC on steroid. You've upgraded every single component on your pc, and want it faster. You're willing to spend thousands on cpu. Another thousand on Mobo+Ram combo. Hey, why not add another thousand and put those games and photoshop on steroid ? the reality is, I dont spend > RM300 on CPU anymore. Even graphic chip is also <RM500. Especially there isnt much different in term of performance if u are not a gamer. A more progressive upgrade like every 6 months seems to be a better choice.
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billytong
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Aug 30 2010, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(moshpit21 @ Aug 30 2010, 02:33 AM) Still can't decide if it is worth it to get SSD now :S I hope the intel gen 3 really affects the price of the older ones nicely. it is only worth when their minimum price is as low as HDD price, which is about RM100.
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billytong
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Sep 15 2010, 10:10 AM
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if you know how to protect your HDD they run for many many years. I have still have two 10years+ old Quantum HDDs still running without bad sectors. One is a 4GB Quantum Bigfoot. it is a 5.25 inch HDD. U cant find these kind of form factor HDD these days. No bad sectors. This HDD is 12years old heading toward 13 years old.
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billytong
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Sep 21 2010, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 19 2010, 12:17 AM) People have to start understand that SSD uses NAND and thus it might show a big difference in benchmarks (just like RAM), real world performance is not that noticeable. Do you notice a big difference running DDR3-1333 and DDR3-2000? The answer is "NO", you get good benchmark scores but you don't literally feel it. This is because most of the time, Windows apps and games tends to read multiple small files. If you're talking about reading huge files then yes, the difference is more substantial. RAID-0 would make things a bit faster but not much. Again, it looks good in benchmarks but in real world computing, the difference is minimal. I would say 1-2 secs faster in certain tasks. What makes the SSD fast is the random access time and if you notice, all SSD's have 0.x ms so they are all more or less the same. Another problem is we have tons of people that does not own an SSD but after reading around the Internet, they start advicing and giving the wrong information. I am one of the early users of SSD and I can tell you that 1 x SSD would be ideal. RAID-0 SSD is only if you have extra cash and don't know what to spend on  Exactly, buy what you need, plenty of time my HDD is in idle mode, I still cant see a reason to pay the SSD premium when my HDD is 90% idle. Even window boot time, a few seconds delay isnt gonna kill me. HDD do not boot windows 10-30min slower than SSD. May be you need is different from me, but for user like me, I wont be noticing any much different from SSD. it really depends on the user need, some people might find SSD useful, some like me dont. This post has been edited by billytong: Sep 21 2010, 11:15 PM
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billytong
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Oct 1 2010, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Sep 29 2010, 07:21 PM) U has the same side as me. I spend 10k on my dekstop after 2 years it is slower than a 3k com. Now i use 4k to upgrade my PC to get super high end wohoo compare to last time 10k If you ask me spending 1K-2k upgrading computer every year will end up faster than buying 4-6K PC every 3-5years. This is the whole reason why i do not want SSD now. It got plenty of room to drop the price. Waiting SSD to cost RM120-RM180 This post has been edited by billytong: Oct 1 2010, 04:58 PM
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billytong
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May 11 2011, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(everling @ May 9 2011, 07:16 PM) From HDD to SSD, it's like breathing new life into an old machine. From entry level SSD to SATA 6.0gbps SSD, be prepared to be underwhelmed. As always, I recommend investing in capacity than in performance. More solid state capacity will always be useful. More performance is highly situational and of dubious value. Do you really need 550MB/s read/write for your web browsing? Or to launch a game that spends most of its time waiting on the CPU? Thats the reason. I have been holding of my SSD purchase only they get "reasonable" enough capacity and reasonable enough pricing. The price/capacity of SSD isnt get any better yet.
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billytong
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May 11 2011, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(everling @ May 11 2011, 05:24 PM) But it has gotten better. A year ago, it was about RM10/GB. Today, Intel's G3 can hit RM6/GB and we even have cheaper SSDs that goes for below RM5/GB. The question here, what is your selling point?  Not until it goes below RM300 with 256GB and more.I know this gonna take a while but RM1/GB isnt really far off. if you look into 2-3yrs time. This post has been edited by billytong: May 11 2011, 06:30 PM
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billytong
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Jul 15 2011, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(jack64 @ Jul 15 2011, 09:50 AM) but read speed up to 280mb/s y mine just get 143mb/s  You use SATA1?
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