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 The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!

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post Sep 16 2010, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 16 2010, 09:16 PM)
currently even as a offrace zerg user, i think only the the 5rax reaper build is hard to defend against...
sure u can survive but it set u back too much...
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ill hate mech more than anything. lol TLO meching koreans HAHAHAHAHA
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 16 2010, 09:30 PM)
ill hate mech more than anything. lol TLO meching koreans HAHAHAHAHA
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even more than disconnect ? if so, just do the disconnect part =P

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post Sep 16 2010, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 16 2010, 09:34 PM)
even more than disconnect ? if so, just do the disconnect part =P
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game disconnections are not valid strats and thus are excluded from any hate
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post Sep 17 2010, 09:30 AM

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Currently using Zerg... around 20+ wins and 20+ losses... Zerg FTW haha tongue.gif
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post Sep 17 2010, 09:51 AM

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the last 2 day9 dailies are about ZvT so those having trouble should really have a look...
the solution depends on knowing the timing of the terran's various build (especially reapers) and how to react accordingly from replay analysis...
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post Sep 18 2010, 03:22 PM

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i noticed that AI queen do routine create larvae, and thus their mana usually very low in the entire game, as for player, they had to manually doing it, or you wont have enough larvae, lets say if you have like 3 bases, how do you easily create larvae, assuming that each bases is quite far away and how often you do the routine job.
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post Sep 18 2010, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 18 2010, 03:22 PM)
i noticed that AI queen do routine create larvae, and thus their mana usually very low in the entire game, as for player, they had to manually doing it, or you wont have enough larvae, lets say if you have like 3 bases, how do you easily create larvae, assuming that each bases is quite far away and how often you do the routine job.
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1. hotkey all ur queen
2. press v
3. click on ur hatch (or near it) on the minimap
4. repeat step 2 and 3 till u does it for all ur base
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post Sep 18 2010, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 18 2010, 03:41 PM)
1. hotkey all ur queen
2. press v
3. click on ur hatch (or near it) on the minimap
4. repeat step 2 and 3 till u does it for all ur base
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oh u can simply press v and click on the minimap ? dont u need to focus your map on the hatchery 1st and repeat on 2nd and 3rd hatchery ?
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post Sep 18 2010, 07:12 PM

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nope no need, just press 'v'and click on the general area of your hatcheries on the minimap will do
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post Sep 18 2010, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(Posgrado @ Sep 18 2010, 07:12 PM)
nope no need, just press 'v'and click on the general area of  your hatcheries on the minimap will do
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will try it out, it seriously save alot of time if it work


Added on September 18, 2010, 11:58 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 18 2010, 03:41 PM)
1. hotkey all ur queen
2. press v
3. click on ur hatch (or near it) on the minimap
4. repeat step 2 and 3 till u does it for all ur base
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btw u said hotkey my queens, u mean 1 key for each queen or 1 key for all queens ?

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post Sep 19 2010, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 18 2010, 11:48 PM)
will try it out, it seriously save alot of time if it work


Added on September 18, 2010, 11:58 pm

btw u said hotkey my queens, u mean 1 key for each queen or 1 key for all queens ?
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All queens. The game will automatically use the nearest one. Seriously, this can be the single best advice one could get as a newb Zerg player.
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post Sep 19 2010, 08:42 AM

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@narf03 -> this technique was explained a few pages back really.. and it has really helped me out alot since.. now.. if I only can remember to actually Cast the spell.. I always forgot to do that in battle tongue.gif

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on another note.. this is my Bronze level play I had last nite.. I tried to do a semi-wall in Lost Temple.. just want to show u guys my idea of how to do a semi-wall.. thou please keep in mind.. i'm at Bronze Level.. so my play is kindoff suck.. its the Idea that I want to present tongue.gif

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the actual game wouldnt have been that long if he just surrender after loosing all his forces

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this is my other game that I try using Nydus for Reinforcement.. after my Roaches got into his base, I used Nydus to drop in reinforcements.. again.. the Idea I want to show is using Nydus as a means to send in reinforcements.. u know how Roaches always so slow (especially without speed upgrade) and Hydra too.. well a Nydus can send them straight where the action is..

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I just want to share my idea.. I know I didnt execute it well, but I'm sure higher skilled players can use this ideas and take it to the next level tongue.gif
hope this helps someone, and not just embarrassment for my skill.. hehe..

I love trying to think of new ideas for using stuff.. so if u guys have any new ideas share it.. so we can all learn something from each other!

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post Sep 20 2010, 01:27 AM

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http://hotfile.com/dl/70490870/d3f537c/mas....SC2Replay.html

check out... been practicing this tactic alot n it works well for me... turtle the opponent n just wait till he got no moneh n att haha
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post Sep 20 2010, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(mad_geist @ Sep 19 2010, 08:42 AM)
@narf03 -> this technique was explained a few pages back really.. and it has really helped me out alot since.. now.. if I only can remember to actually Cast the spell.. I always forgot to do that in battle tongue.gif

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on another note.. this is my Bronze level play I had last nite.. I tried to do a semi-wall in Lost Temple.. just want to show u guys my idea of how to do a semi-wall.. thou please keep in mind.. i'm at Bronze Level.. so my play is kindoff suck.. its the Idea that I want to present tongue.gif

user posted image

the actual game wouldnt have been that long if he just surrender after loosing all his forces

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this is my other game that I try using Nydus for Reinforcement.. after my Roaches got into his base, I used Nydus to drop in reinforcements.. again.. the Idea I want to show is using Nydus as a means to send in reinforcements.. u know how Roaches always so slow (especially without speed upgrade) and Hydra too.. well a Nydus can send them straight where the action is..

user posted image

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I just want to share my idea.. I know I didnt execute it well, but I'm sure higher skilled players can use this ideas and take it to the next level tongue.gif
hope this helps someone, and not just embarrassment for my skill.. hehe..

I love trying to think of new ideas for using stuff.. so if u guys have any new ideas share it.. so we can all learn something from each other!
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Cant watch your replay now as I am working now, you dont have to have the mindset of being inferior in any league, just play as the way you want.

For nydus play, try youtube for a person call Argos Zenith or something, learn his infestor and nydus play, it's insane.

Keep losing to my friend in practice match, really have no timing sense against protoss.
Any recommended ZvP video?
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post Sep 20 2010, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 20 2010, 09:51 AM)
Cant watch your replay now as I am working now, you dont have to have the mindset of being inferior in any league, just play as the way you want.

For nydus play, try youtube for a person call Argos Zenith or something, learn his infestor and nydus play, it's insane.

Keep losing to my friend in practice match, really have no timing sense against protoss.
Any recommended ZvP video?
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well i got some nice ZVP of me getting raped in vista lasik. really good use of zerglings, steady FE/expansions throughout the games. and even thwarted my VR cheese attempt on kulas ravine. totally outplayed.
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post Sep 20 2010, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 20 2010, 10:12 AM)
well i got some nice ZVP of me getting raped in vista lasik. really good use of zerglings, steady FE/expansions throughout the games. and even thwarted my VR cheese attempt on kulas ravine. totally outplayed.
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Zergling are not too useful when you block them with like.. 2 zealots.. or 1 or 2 sentries...

Unless the idea of nydus and drops comes off.. which wont happen that fast too, you might already got ur VR ready?
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post Sep 20 2010, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 20 2010, 11:37 AM)
Zergling are not too useful when you block them with like.. 2 zealots.. or 1 or 2 sentries...

Unless the idea of nydus and drops comes off.. which wont happen that fast too, you might already got ur VR ready?
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thats why i said, i need to l2sentries, which i hate lol.

zealots blocking = wasting resources as they could be better off on the offensive. the solution is sentries, which i did not utilize.

and the first 2 games i couldnt even get VR, got set back too far behind due to the desperate attempts on the FE. 3rd game i did, but he was ahead of me on the gold expand in kulas ravine doh.gif doh.gif
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post Sep 20 2010, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 20 2010, 12:15 PM)
thats why i said, i need to l2sentries, which i hate lol.

zealots blocking = wasting resources as they could be better off on the offensive. the solution is sentries, which i did not utilize.

and the first 2 games i couldnt even get VR, got set back too far behind due to the desperate attempts on the FE. 3rd game i did, but he was ahead of me on the gold expand in kulas ravine doh.gif  doh.gif
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try the korean style FE with heavy sentry...
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post Sep 20 2010, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 20 2010, 03:26 PM)
try the korean style FE with heavy sentry...
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Oh God not the Forge FE build! D:
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post Sep 20 2010, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 20 2010, 03:42 PM)
Oh God not the Forge FE build! D:
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not the bisu build...
its gate -> core -> 1 zelaot 2-3 sentry then expand with pylon + forge + gate + nexus as a semi wall-in at the natural...

that would hold most t1 zerg pushes if the toss player can FF in time...

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