got a question, if a protoss put a pylon in your base, ie you are zerg, should you just ignore it and rush out zerglings ? if you are doing a 14 pool, and the process of making the pool is only 50%, then the protoss put a pylon, what is the chance your zerglings can handle the job instead of grabbing your dones onto the pylon ?

What do you mean? You have to tell us what is his intention for placing a pylon there. Did he intend to cannon rush you or proxy gateway

man, you should've seen that SAD CASE of neural parasite ROFL
gah speaking of which i got a lot of nice replays that i havent uploaded LAWL

a pylon, anything is possible, you wont know its a cannon rush or proxy gateway until the pylon is complete and the probe drop another building or some zealots or stalkers jumping in. The question is pretty simple, you making a pool at 14, and a probe didnt knock your door, drop a pylon or 2 in your base b4 you even have your 1st ling or queen, what is your response ?

i dun believe until ive seen it LOL

when i'm zerg i'll always pull around 5-6 drones agaisnt any pylons!!!

I don't get whats the problem. You can easily pull off 3-4 drones if you see him building cannons after pylon or if you see him proxy gate just build a spine crawler as soon as your pool is finish then start adapting from there.

as simple as it sounds, that could be your biggest mistake

having being intimidated and not having a cool mindset into games is just as devastating as any mistakes can be

btw, instead of focusing on the pylon, focus on the probe if u can =p
thus 5-6 drones to try and get a surround off...

i was in kinda big problem if the probe just drop pylons, if i send drones attack the pylon, he drop another and when i was about to destroy the 1st 1, he cancelled it so he only lose 25 mineral for cancelling, but i send out drones where they cant mine for quite long period of time. and for spine crawler, i dont know where should i put them, imagine there is a pylon north of your base, 1 west, 1 east, and 1 south, his troops can come from anywhere =P and if i put right next to hatchery, then he stop sending in zealots but stalkers and attack drone from distance. lose a game cause of unable to survive the unpredictable rush and i was dumb spending drones on pylons.

That's your problem. DO NOT send drones to attack an unfinished pylon, you have to keep in mind that if hes doing a proxy like that, just defend and hang on then you will be able to overpower him with your economy. If the game goes to the point where he can have stalkers to outrange your spine crawler that means you're playing it wrong from the beginning. Mass speedlings can easily counter all that PROVIDED that you have good enough economy which is why you don't send drones to attack pylons and waste your mining time like that.

yeah I agree with Evo.. if I see a probe I'll put a few drones on it to make it leave.. and if he does leave put a drone to tail him to make sure he leaves.. and not fake it and come back to proxy pylon u again unnoticed (like happened to me one time )

Nope that's not the correct way to deal with proxy pylon as well. You're just wasting your GOLDEN mining time if you do that and your opponent is good enough to micro his probe well.

so the best method is ignore it and wait until your lings are out and mass ling then overpower them and then only destroy all of those pylons and gateways(if there are any) ?

The key to victory is to stay calm and play smart.

i think it roughly depends on the pylon timing...
if he were to chrono his zealots, i think the lings would nt be fast enuff...
part of the reason for zealot 5sec nerf was due to the power of proxy gateway with zealot chrono...

since he said that is pool is 50% and he saw a pylon, ur solution would be better....
if the toss going 10pylon 10gate then i guess drones should be pulled...

since when stalkers outrange spines? lol

my bad grammar mistake there I meant when stalker is out of the range of your spine crawler and is able to attack your drones.

ok.. I hardly fight another Zerg in ladder.. so I want to practice in custom games against Hard Zerg AI.. however I find it harder to ZvZ.. I can win against Protos Hard AI, or Terran Hard AI.. but cant beat Zerg Hard AI yet..

anyone can show me how its done (by replay I mean)? cause if I cant win against Zerg hard AI then I'm definitely doing something wrong..

I dont mind some light zvz too, but always find zvz to be not very interesting..

I always have problem for myself when to build workers / troops, that's a big problem with larva management.. When I review my replay I realise I have really poor worker count and thus lag behind opponent.