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 The Zerg Strategy v1.0, Cheer for the overmind!

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mad_geist
post Sep 4 2010, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Sep 4 2010, 04:49 PM)
nice Air Battle! thumbup.gif

both players decided to go Air.. hehe..

the only thing I have to say is.. u had Lots of mineral unspent! probably would finish it earlier if it werent so high..

imagine how many speelings u could do with them!! and flood his base!! hehe brows.gif
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post Sep 4 2010, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(mad_geist @ Sep 4 2010, 05:17 PM)
nice Air Battle!  thumbup.gif

both players decided to go Air.. hehe..

the only thing I have to say is.. u had Lots of mineral unspent! probably would finish it earlier if it werent so high..

imagine how many speelings u could do with them!! and flood his base!! hehe  brows.gif
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Yeah sad.gif Too focused to build the air army only T_T
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post Sep 4 2010, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 4 2010, 05:13 PM)
this is utterly the gayest lost I've ever got.
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The toss went from trying to proxy in my base, to proxy 2 gate zealots to VOID RAYS!
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Handle well all the crisis except that the void ray.. oh gay keep proxy= =""...

Anyone got worse record than I have? Upset to death now T_T
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post Sep 4 2010, 09:56 PM

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post Sep 5 2010, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 4 2010, 07:07 PM)
Handle well all the crisis except that the void ray.. oh gay keep proxy= =""...

Anyone got worse record than I have? Upset to death now T_T
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your record still not as bad as mine, I have 6 1v1 losing streak icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 5 2010, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(MintDarker @ Sep 5 2010, 12:04 AM)
your record still not as bad as mine, I have 6 1v1 losing streak  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Already 5 now, if I lose the next match gonna equal yours =)
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post Sep 5 2010, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Sep 5 2010, 12:36 AM)
Already 5 now, if I lose the next match gonna equal yours =)
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bah.. those are nothing.. I got like 10 lost in a row.. tongue.gif

man.. that suck so much.. thou I would like to think that I'm getting better..


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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 4 2010, 05:13 PM)
this is utterly the gayest lost I've ever got.
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The toss went from trying to proxy in my base, to proxy 2 gate zealots to VOID RAYS!
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ouch.. I feel u Sichiri..

after watching that replay, I'd say its hard for me to counter that.. basically
1) he mess with your income at the beginning by forcing your drones to fight
2) his zealot kept you in your base and not know what he is doing
3) you were forced to produce lots of army to deal with his harass and late to tech

my gayest lost most probably when a Terran build a bunker and barrack very close to my base and I was late noticing it tongue.gif
he boxed me in and his siege tank hit my base from way back cry.gif


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post Sep 5 2010, 04:03 AM

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A ZvP and ZvZ replay of mine.

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post Sep 5 2010, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(Ash @ Sep 5 2010, 04:03 AM)
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A ZvP and ZvZ replay of mine.
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watch your replay, kind of funny seeing those drones running from banelings, maybe you kill lesser if they just ignore you, kind of a bit expensive using those banelings, cost like 50/50 each and you need 2 of these to make kill, so its 100/100 for each batch of kill, you need to at least kill like 5 of them(to me gas is a bit more expensive) to make 2 of your banelings worth, not mentioning those sacrificed on those zerglings and being killed by the spine. But anyway you slow their economy alot, and the queen will have to work harder =). learned something from your replay, didnt know that hiding an overlord right behind enemy mineral line and they cant noticed it. wondering why so many zerg likes to put their buildings ie pool spire etc behind those mineral line ?
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post Sep 5 2010, 10:15 AM

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banelings are vital in zvz match. boom his drones, and the winner will be decided.
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post Sep 5 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 5 2010, 05:43 AM)
watch your replay, kind of funny seeing those drones running from banelings, maybe you kill lesser if they just ignore you, kind of a bit expensive using those banelings, cost like 50/50 each and you need 2 of these to make kill, so its 100/100 for each batch of kill, you need to at least kill like 5 of them(to me gas is a bit more expensive) to make 2 of your banelings worth, not mentioning those sacrificed on those zerglings and being killed by the spine. But anyway you slow their economy alot, and the queen will have to work harder =). learned something from your replay, didnt know that hiding an overlord right behind enemy mineral line and they cant noticed it. wondering why so many zerg likes to put their buildings ie pool spire etc behind those mineral line ?
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When zergs are being rushed or attacked, the most important buildings that we'd like to keep alive are obviously the unit structured buildings in order to keep producing particular units to block them. Hence, we will have to place them in the safest position where it is the most difficult for opponents to destroy them. Usually if you place them behind the mineral line only 3-4 melee units of theirs can attack at once whereby if you place them at an open position then 8-10 units can easily surround the building and finish them fast.


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post Sep 5 2010, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Soul-X @ Sep 5 2010, 02:13 PM)
Please tell me my mistakes...  doh.gif
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I think you mis-micro your roaches... you let his stalkers kite them instead of using them to destroy his pylons. And you could actually destroy the gateway instead of attacking his troops. And if i scouted his base being empty like that ( due to that weird wall ), I would prefer to tech to lair instead of getting an expansion, evolve ventral sacs, and do a baneling drop at his mineral line. Of course u have to distract his front first. smile.gif
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QUOTE(noob4life @ Sep 5 2010, 02:39 PM)
I think you mis-micro your roaches...  you let his stalkers kite them instead of using them to destroy his pylons. And you could actually destroy the gateway instead of attacking his troops. And if i scouted his base being empty like that ( due to that weird wall ), I would prefer to tech to lair instead of getting an expansion, evolve ventral sacs, and do a baneling drop at his mineral line. Of course u have to distract his front first.  smile.gif
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baneling drops with overlord take too long, it require lair and 2 research on overlord, or it will take ages to fly into enemy base and the enemy got plenty time to shoot it down b4 it enters the base, better still go spire and mutas.
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QUOTE(noob4life @ Sep 5 2010, 02:39 PM)
I think you mis-micro your roaches...  you let his stalkers kite them instead of using them to destroy his pylons. And you could actually destroy the gateway instead of attacking his troops. And if i scouted his base being empty like that ( due to that weird wall ), I would prefer to tech to lair instead of getting an expansion, evolve ventral sacs, and do a baneling drop at his mineral line. Of course u have to distract his front first.  smile.gif
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hmm looks like i overreacted due to the fact that I was a spectator in Marine VS keNn's game =____= on that game, he raped Marine hard... Thats why I keep having the mindset that he's a strong player and din think wisely...

ash, bluemoon... watch my replay and give me tips~ thanks
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post Sep 5 2010, 03:15 PM

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Hmm after watching your replay i have a big question... how to counter so many high templars lol. His army size is scary.
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QUOTE(Soul-X @ Sep 5 2010, 02:52 PM)
hmm looks like i overreacted due to the fact that I was a spectator in Marine VS keNn's game =____= on that game, he raped Marine hard... Thats why I keep having the mindset that he's a strong player and din think wisely...

ash, bluemoon... watch my replay and give me tips~ thanks
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First of all, your early push would have been more successful if you have speedlings. I will always get speedlings against P and T for surround and harassment.

When you see Protoss walling off, another tactic your could use is going a fast lair and use early nydus worm because they wont have enough army do deal with your speedlings. They won't have enough pylons to cover the fogs in their base too

And you should making hydra's when you see HT and quickly tech to ultras if you can since 3 bases are enough for it. A lot of people keep making the same units wishing that more numbers might win them the battle sooner or later. Also get an early armor upgrade because he has one weapon upgrade before you. This make zealots kill zerglings much faster with 2 hits instead of 3.

In lost temple remember to break the gold minerals rocks asap and expand there. It's easier to defend that expanding to far south. And one last thing, improve your lings micro to pick up the HTs left behind, most of the time you can snipe a few HT before they storm themselves.

That's all I can say, I'm still not that good with Zerg so hope my comment helps =)

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post Sep 5 2010, 10:14 PM

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Don't know how I got away in the beginning lol but i guess it's an intense ZvP nevertheless. Was sitting on a pillow playing while talking at the same time. Now i know if your original nydus gets destroyed then your units inside will be vanished as well. Got lucky in this game.
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post Sep 5 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Ash @ Sep 5 2010, 10:14 PM)
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Don't know how I got away in the beginning lol but i guess it's an intense ZvP nevertheless. Was sitting on a pillow playing while talking at the same time. Now i know if your original nydus gets destroyed then your units inside will be vanished as well. Got lucky in this game.
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seldom use nydus, didnt know about it, what if you have 2 nydus and only 1 of them get destroyed ?
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post Sep 5 2010, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(narf03 @ Sep 5 2010, 10:32 PM)
seldom use nydus, didnt know about it, what if you have 2 nydus and only 1 of them get destroyed ?
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I thought I saw one game where the original nydus was destroyed, but the other end was alive, so the units can get out on the other side..

havent tried it myself thou.. will have to reconfirm this..

I'm a frequent nydus user.. they helped me win most of my games thumbup.gif

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