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 Protoss Discussion Thread Ver. 1, [SEASON 2] Tips & Strategies.

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Honky
post Sep 12 2010, 04:31 PM

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Here's a couple of my replays, both diamond level match

Eilrach(Protoss) vs DVG(Protoss): Tried using Renson's style of proxy gateway, though i'm no where near as proficient, it did work and i manage to marginally beat a diamond player with 400 wins XD
http://screplays.com/replays/eilrach/8452

Eilrach(Protoss) vs pootpoot(Zerg): Proxy stargate with zealots doing early pressure, this one was risky, had my opponent found my stargate, I would've lost.
http://screplays.com/replays/eilrach/8454

Comments are much appreciated notworthy.gif

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TSincx
post Sep 12 2010, 07:16 PM

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Hm. Seems like I have to sign up to watch the replays.. sweat.gif

Updated the front page with vids. If anyone has any nice build orders to contribute, please do post here. Thanks.
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:14 AM

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guys i am having problems when transitioning to late or mid late game , this is the part where i dont have enough units and every time i expand i get rush any advise on that?
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(choyster @ Sep 14 2010, 12:14 AM)
guys i am having problems when transitioning to late or mid late game , this is the part where i dont have enough units and every time i expand i get rush any advise on that?
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keep ur unit production constant?
if u wanna expand, get sentries to free ur minerals for expo...
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:24 AM

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the best way i would recommend people to expend is to rush the opponents 1st before an expo

you can apply two things after the rush

1. Change of unit if his units are favourable against yours

2. Expo if your forces are stronger =) (this is because he would not rush you if his forces are unfavourable, therefore an expo)

Orrrr you can scout n see what he has and are your forces are capable of handling his thats all

Oh I jsut won my top 64 matches biggrin.gif im going to be in the top 32 lols
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Sep 14 2010, 12:24 AM)
the best way i would recommend people to expend is to rush the opponents 1st before an expo

you can apply two things after the rush

1. Change of unit if his units are favourable against yours

2. Expo if your forces are stronger =) (this is because he would not rush you if his forces are unfavourable, therefore an expo)

Orrrr you can scout n see what he has and are your forces are capable of handling his thats all

Oh I jsut won my top 64 matches biggrin.gif im going to be in the top 32 lols
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congrats bro[
yup always expand when u are atking...
unless u are doing FE based builds...
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post Sep 14 2010, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Sep 14 2010, 12:24 AM)
the best way i would recommend people to expend is to rush the opponents 1st before an expo

you can apply two things after the rush

1. Change of unit if his units are favourable against yours

2. Expo if your forces are stronger =) (this is because he would not rush you if his forces are unfavourable, therefore an expo)

Orrrr you can scout n see what he has and are your forces are capable of handling his thats all

Oh I jsut won my top 64 matches biggrin.gif im going to be in the top 32 lols
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my opponent ffk. until monday also cant play. so considered forfeit, and i proceeded as well. lol top 32
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post Sep 14 2010, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Sep 14 2010, 02:41 AM)
congrats bro[
yup always expand when u are atking...
unless u are doing FE based builds...
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how much of an army would you think is ideal to push with?
Calvin Seak
post Sep 14 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(choyster @ Sep 14 2010, 10:34 AM)
how much of an army would you think is ideal to push with?
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by experience i would say, you see when you scout, you would roughly know what are your opponent's army is.

for example, you wont rush a terran with stalkers if he has 4 barracks, you shuld get immortals zealots sentry and stalkers

if he makes a bunker it shows that he is teching, tahts the right time to rush if you didnt tech as well and go for the standard robo gateway build,

get what i mean?
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post Sep 14 2010, 11:57 AM

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Another way is that if he fails to rush you, which means he has lost an entire (or almost an entire) army, which you still have a handful of yours, you should counter immediately without waiting.
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post Sep 15 2010, 09:55 PM

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best is distract yr opponent in the beginning of the game using yr probe, delay his build for few seconds and then rush him. it makes lots of difference. Requires APM.
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post Sep 16 2010, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Sep 14 2010, 10:48 AM)
by experience i would say, you see when you scout, you would roughly know what are your opponent's army is.

for example, you wont rush a terran with stalkers if he has 4 barracks, you shuld get immortals zealots sentry and stalkers

if he makes a bunker it shows that he is teching, tahts the right time to rush if you didnt tech as well and go for the standard robo gateway build,

get what i mean?
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When I saw the bunker, I didn't expect my opponent to tech up to a thor and come up my ramp.
That was really an unexpected experience. sweat.gif
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post Sep 16 2010, 02:08 AM

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guys, what to do when facing ultralisks? mass immortals? had a game with a zerg, guess it was kind of even until he came to me with ultras ... then it was gg as they just raped my ground army with them ...
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post Sep 16 2010, 07:34 AM

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question, since ultralisk is massive units, can phoenix hit them?

i know phoenix can hit colossi one.

just cannot graviton them.
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post Sep 16 2010, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 16 2010, 02:08 AM)
guys, what to do when facing ultralisks? mass immortals? had a game with a zerg, guess it was kind of even until he came to me with ultras ... then it was gg as they just raped my ground army with them ...
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Immortals with focus fire, or you can always go for VRs
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Sep 16 2010, 07:34 AM)
question, since ultralisk is massive units, can phoenix hit them?

i know phoenix can hit colossi one.

just cannot graviton them.
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ultralisk is big but not tall. colo is tall until air unit can hit
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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 16 2010, 09:58 AM)
ultralisk is big but not tall. colo is tall until air unit can hit
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oooh okay but what about thor then?

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post Sep 16 2010, 12:07 PM

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Havent seen any anti baneling discussion; about than half of my army (8/16) was destroyed by 6 banelings burrowed in the ground. Sort of like mines eh?
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Sep 16 2010, 10:33 AM)
oooh okay but what about thor then?

colossus is the only unit that is considered both ground and air. would be too overpowered otherwise i think, especially with their upgraded 8 range.
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How to Counter a Proxy Barracks Reaper Bunker rush:



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