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Investment KINRARA RESIDENCE [OWNERS' THREAD], Lifestyle landed homes from Mah Sing

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prody
post Mar 25 2011, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(QW$$ @ Mar 25 2011, 06:14 PM)
This is interesting. Question1) Has Mah Sing committed an offense by misleading advertisement in promoting Kinrara residence as I recall that the sales booklet has an image of guardhouse & has a selling pitch of gated & guarded community. Security intercom is also standard and this means that there is a permanent guard house at the entrance as per the image in the booklet.
2) this promotion or selling pitch has resulted in many ( including myself) to purchased a unit here based on the perception of buying into a gated & guarded community where outsiders are not welcome to walk in freely. If wanted an open concept, many including myself will stay in current taman.
3) Was excited when saw the show unit & club house but now with news of it not being a fully gated & guarded community, not feeling too excited ...
4) anyone with legal expertise who can comment here?
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Think the only thing that matters is the S&P.
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post Mar 25 2011, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Mar 25 2011, 07:42 PM)
Think the only thing that matters is the S&P.
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Hmmm the S & P is pretty standard one. Nothing on paying monthly maintaince fee or club fee's. Guess those who bought the 3 stories will be jumping up & down ..like me now

Mabye the guys can clarify this with TMS tomorrow ( still dun know why they are called TMS).
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post Mar 25 2011, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(QW$$ @ Mar 25 2011, 08:03 PM)
Hmmm the S & P is pretty standard one. Nothing on paying monthly maintaince fee or club fee's. Guess those who bought the 3 stories will be jumping up & down ..like me now

Mabye the guys can clarify this with TMS tomorrow ( still dun know why they are called TMS).
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all is not lost....most possible scenario is we need to form a dedicated and efficient RA to manage to security/guards after the developer cuci tangan, and also get 85% residents to give consent.

as for the guidelines from the govt, we'll just wait n see, coz right now i believe govt is focusing more on those G&G taman with oil drums & metal grille blocking the road, which sometimes is a nuisance for the public, including myself. often when i visit friends in damansara utama, usj and bandar utama, always sesat, looks like all exits are blocked. blink.gif

but having a public amenity like school, surau, parks makes it tad harder to be fully gated....
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QUOTE(kikco @ Mar 25 2011, 11:56 PM)
all is not lost....most possible scenario is we need to form a dedicated and efficient RA to manage to security/guards after the developer cuci tangan, and also get 85% residents to give consent.

as for the guidelines from the govt, we'll just wait n see, coz right now i believe govt is focusing more on those G&G taman with oil drums & metal grille blocking the road, which sometimes is a nuisance for the public, including myself. often when i visit friends in damansara utama, usj and bandar utama, always sesat, looks like all exits are blocked.  blink.gif

but having a public amenity like school, surau, parks makes it tad harder to be fully gated....
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I think if all the purchasers understand that this is meant to be a G&G neighbourhood it would be OK. Most Malaysian don't bother about reading the legal document, so whether or not it is stated in the S&P is irrelevant unless the case goes into arbitration.

For example, the Southlake phase in Desa Parkcity comes with individual title while the rest of the phases come with Strata titles. But to a layman living in Desa Parkcity, he wouldn't be able to differentiate. So as long as there is an understanding in advance during the purchase that maintenance fee has to be paid, it would be OK.


Added on March 26, 2011, 8:41 am
QUOTE(cooolguy @ Mar 26 2011, 08:28 AM)
I think if all the purchasers understand that this is meant to be a G&G neighbourhood it would be OK. Most Malaysian don't bother about reading the legal document, so whether or not it is stated in the S&P is irrelevant unless the case goes into arbitration.

For example, the Southlake phase in Desa Parkcity comes with individual title while the rest of the phases come with Strata titles. But to a layman living in Desa Parkcity, he wouldn't be able to differentiate. So as long as there is an understanding in advance during the purchase that maintenance fee has to be paid, it would be OK.
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Another point I'd like to make is that the Semi D will come with high quality welded wire mesh fencing with CCTV (according to their brochure), not chainlink fence, not brickwall fence. It's those they use in other high end neighborhood such as Setia Ecopark, Valencia, & Ambang Botanic. However I think the superlink phase will probably use normal brickwall or chainlink fencing. The latest MPSJ guideline for non strata neighbourhood allows only chainlink fencing, so don't know Mah Sing will be able to overcome this.


Added on March 26, 2011, 8:51 am
QUOTE(cooolguy @ Mar 26 2011, 08:28 AM)
I think if all the purchasers understand that this is meant to be a G&G neighbourhood it would be OK. Most Malaysian don't bother about reading the legal document, so whether or not it is stated in the S&P is irrelevant unless the case goes into arbitration.

For example, the Southlake phase in Desa Parkcity comes with individual title while the rest of the phases come with Strata titles. But to a layman living in Desa Parkcity, he wouldn't be able to differentiate. So as long as there is an understanding in advance during the purchase that maintenance fee has to be paid, it would be OK.


Added on March 26, 2011, 8:41 am
Another point I'd like to make is that the Semi D will come with high quality welded wire mesh fencing with CCTV (according to their brochure), not chainlink fence, not brickwall fence. It's those they use in other high end neighborhood such as Setia Ecopark, Valencia, & Ambang Botanic. However I think the superlink phase will probably use normal brickwall or chainlink fencing. The latest MPSJ guideline for non strata neighbourhood allows only chainlink fencing, so don't know Mah Sing will be able to overcome this.
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For non strata superlink residence, Mah Sing needs to assist in this, read this:

GATED & GUARDED - MPSJ'S PROPOSED GUIDELINES

1. Guarded, minimum 80% of residents (regardless of tenants or owner occupied)

2. Gated, minimum 85%

3. Perimeter fencing - chain link only

4. Guard house - Cannot build on the road, only road shoulder. Need to apply for TOL as well.

5. Must be run by a registered resident association (RA) with annual AGM

6. Guards - must engage a security company registered with the Home Ministry

7. Must subscribe to public liability insurance

8. Agreement between MPSJ and RA

 

 

Steps to apply / Cara memohon

a.To formally write to local State Assemblyman, councilor, JKP chairman and MPSJ;

b.To hold an AGM to establish a Residents Association;

c.To announce the proposed scheme via banners, posters, postings on website and to distribution membership application forms;

d.To distribute consent forms for guarded scheme to all property owners and tenants in the area;

e.To submit registration of association to the relevant authorities;

f.To submit TOL application to the Petaling District Land Office;

g.To submit letter to the Subang Jaya District Police informing them of intention to have guarded scheme;

h.To submit application for temporary permits for the erection of guard house, fencing and boom gates to MPSJ’s Building Department with:

i.A copy of residents consent form duly filled;

ii. A copy of the registration of the association;

iii. A copy of the TOL;

iv. Location plan, guard house structure plan, boom gate and fencing. (the duration of the permit has to go hand-in-hand with the TOL and insurance);

v. A copy of the public liability insurance policy.

Present Guidelines under the Selangor Housing and Property Board

85% approval for guarded schemes;

100% approval for gated schemes ;

Any road barriers can only come down between 12 midnight to 6am.


This post has been edited by cooolguy: Mar 26 2011, 08:51 AM
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post Mar 26 2011, 11:05 AM

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Thanks for the info. Tis is the 1st time that a Taman appears to hv different set of RA, m trying to imagine wat could be the relationship be?
For instance, TMS only mentioned the fees for each & every household, but never detailed the allocation, as we know, there are a few items need to be make clear :
1. Club house maintenance - collective fund to maintain
2. Playground, street light etc - g+g needs to maintain by themselves
3. G+G has sinking fund - how does it be segregated?
4. Wat Wil happen if the number of link hse owners reduce?

Look quite complicated to me
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post Mar 26 2011, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 26 2011, 11:05 AM)
Thanks for the info. Tis is the 1st time that a Taman appears to hv different set of RA, m trying to imagine wat could be the relationship be?
For instance, TMS only mentioned the fees for each & every household, but never detailed the allocation, as we know, there are a few items need to be make clear :
1. Club house maintenance - collective fund to maintain
2. Playground, street light etc - g+g needs to maintain by themselves
3. G+G has sinking fund - how does it be segregated?
4. Wat Wil happen if the number of link hse owners reduce?

Look quite complicated to me
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fact is quite simple, its non strata G&G, no way to enforce everyone to pay, there are no laws.

no sinking fund, the common amenities like parks, road sweeping, grass cutting, lights will be maintained by local council.

you're just paying for the guards salary and any other additional services the RA are subscribing like CCTV, gardeners ..etc.


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QUOTE(kikco @ Mar 26 2011, 02:40 PM)
fact is quite simple, its non strata G&G, no way to enforce everyone to pay, there are no laws.

no sinking fund, the common amenities like parks, road sweeping, grass cutting, lights will be maintained by local council.

you're just paying for the guards salary and any other additional services the RA are subscribing like CCTV, gardeners ..etc.
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Yes I know tis, I just dun understand how to manage the money? 2 different RA, 2 concept, 2 guard post, but only 1 common club house, so will 2 RAs share 1 account, if no, then how much suppose link hse owner pay for club house membership + guards fees?
If share 1 account, then all monies will goes to maintain club hse, security fees, g+g common facilities cost (including painting refurbishment), so if link hse membership reduce how? Confuse rclxub.gif
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post Mar 27 2011, 02:37 PM

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went to the show house yesterday...

the design okay woh..i think better than I & P.....


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post Mar 27 2011, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 26 2011, 03:16 PM)
Yes I know tis, I just dun understand how to manage the money? 2 different RA, 2 concept, 2 guard post, but only 1 common club house, so will 2 RAs share 1 account, if no, then how much suppose link hse owner pay for club house membership + guards fees?
If share 1 account, then all monies will goes to maintain club hse, security fees, g+g common facilities cost (including painting refurbishment), so if link hse membership reduce how? Confuse rclxub.gif
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the ra can be combined or separate, the residents can dcide
later on when the developer pass back to the residents.

for the club house don't think is part of the maintanence fee,
it's separate. just imagine fitness first open a gym right next to your house right now...
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QUOTE(kikco @ Mar 27 2011, 07:14 PM)
the ra can be combined or separate, the residents can dcide
later on when the developer pass back to the residents.

for the club house don't think is part of the maintanence fee,
it's separate. just imagine fitness first open a gym right next to your house right now...
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Ok, link houses members are required to pay RM150/ mth for maintenance fees, RM100 is security guard's fees, RM50 is for club house fees. 2 separate a/c will be managed by respective household residents (RA & JMB).
As for g+g SD & bungalow area, they will hv their's JMB to take care the maintenance, their maintenance charges are calculated based on b/up sf area (like condo) RM0.10/sf. I am not sure 10 cent/sf is enough or not for maintaining the common areas (roads, street lights, linear park, guards etc) which is so big..., I roughly estimate (SD 2-sty RM300/mth, SD 3-sty RM400/mth, Bungalow RM500/mth), , after dedut the allocation for Club hse (RM50/mth/household), mthly collection is about RM120K, SD/ bungalow frens shd look into it now. . wink.gif
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Can somebody please tabulate out how many units are there in total for:

2-storey link
2.5-storey link
3-storey superlink
2-storey Semi D
3-storey Semi D
Bungalow

Any idea what's that piece of land in front of the clubhouse (currently used as the workers' squatters) planned for in future?
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post Mar 28 2011, 09:45 AM

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Malaysia’s inflation accelerated to a 22-month high, putting pressure on the central bank to resume raising
interest rates. Consumer prices rose 2.9% in February from a year earlier, according to a report by the statistics
department that compares with the 2.7% median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey of 17 economists.
Malaysia’s inflation is set to accelerate and the economy may expand as much as 6% this year, the central bank
said, signaling it would move to counter rising prices and “financial imbalances.” Asian policy makers from India
to the Philippines have raised borrowing costs this month as oil and food costs surge. (Bloomberg)

Kinrara Residence's price to further escalate.

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post Mar 28 2011, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Covillea @ Mar 28 2011, 09:45 AM)
Malaysia’s inflation accelerated to a 22-month high, putting pressure on the central bank to resume raising
interest rates. Consumer prices rose 2.9% in February from a year earlier, according to a report by the statistics
department that compares with the 2.7% median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey of 17 economists.
Malaysia’s inflation is set to accelerate and the economy may expand as much as 6% this year, the central bank
said, signaling it would move to counter rising prices and “financial imbalances.” Asian policy makers from India
to the Philippines have raised borrowing costs this month as oil and food costs surge. (Bloomberg)

Kinrara Residence's price to further escalate.
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I think rising interest rate would cause the opposite of price escalation as cost of fund increases. I'm under the impression that the regulators do it to curb speculation and therefore put some pressure on the prices. Anyway, I think a good project like KR will not be affected. Just make sure we get TMS to change all those lousy finishing materials.
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post Mar 28 2011, 10:19 AM

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what is they dun change?
i have visited the show unit, the empty unit and the material used is, al cheapo dissapointing
MS earn margin very high

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worry abt 2 and 2.5 sty's quality
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QUOTE(yoki @ Mar 28 2011, 10:19 AM)
what is they dun change?
i have visited the show unit, the empty unit and the material used is, al cheapo dissapointing
MS earn margin very high
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QUOTE(Covillea @ Mar 28 2011, 10:45 AM)
Malaysia’s inflation accelerated to a 22-month high, putting pressure on the central bank to resume raising
interest rates. Consumer prices rose 2.9% in February from a year earlier, according to a report by the statistics
department that compares with the 2.7% median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey of 17 economists.
Malaysia’s inflation is set to accelerate and the economy may expand as much as 6% this year, the central bank
said, signaling it would move to counter rising prices and “financial imbalances.” Asian policy makers from India
to the Philippines have raised borrowing costs this month as oil and food costs surge. (Bloomberg)

Kinrara Residence's price to further escalate.
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Please write to angelachong [at] mahsing.com.my, senior manager incharge of KR.
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If no improvement from TMS, we can still have choice to cancel the unit booked. Lose 1k only mah.

We still have not sign the S & P yet. WHat will be the implication if all of us delay signing S & P ?

I am also interested to find out how TMS going to sell the balance of Semi-D with that material quality and higher price ??? The the new bangalow ??? If the consumer confidence level towards TMS has ...........good luck to TMS
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QUOTE(alfredfx @ Mar 28 2011, 11:38 AM)
worry abt 2 and 2.5 sty's quality
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if compare to I&P, i believe the material given higher quality...

seems like all developers are in for quite buck

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