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post Oct 24 2011, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(logen33 @ Oct 22 2011, 10:45 PM)
Another similiar project at Sri Kebangan "Karisma Hill" launching today:

http://www.karismahill.com.my/

30'0" x 80'0" 3 stories link Villa, built-up 4,000sf++ with lift, lease hold & GnG with club house. Selling price starting from 1.68 mil - 2.3 mil with 10% discount & DIBS.

Compare with this project; KR Semi-D's price consider reasonable and worth for money! Cheers...!
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kinrara sales guys need to be more daring to report to mah sing management.

they need to raise the price so that landscape can be further improve.

alreday the club house is alreday seeing wear & tear!!!
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post Oct 25 2011, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(MILAN88 @ Oct 24 2011, 09:14 AM)
Hey ...i was informed by a friend that visited the site last friday that MS is using Kalsa bricks in certain rows of the 3SSL and not red bricks as informed earlier by MS. Would appreciate if some sifu from this forum could share their views on the pros and cons btw red bricks and kalsa bricks.
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FYI..bcox 3SSL phases are divided to few contractors to build.. cry.gif

mine is kalsa... cry.gif
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post Oct 25 2011, 03:58 PM

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can someone post the revised semid house plans for view? Only the top jacuzzi floor need to be recessed? The first floor remains?


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post Oct 25 2011, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(MsPopcorn @ Oct 25 2011, 03:50 PM)
FYI..bcox 3SSL phases are divided to few contractors to build.. cry.gif

mine is kalsa...  cry.gif
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What's wrong with kalsa?

I googled and got the following:-

"Sleek, sharp, strong Kalsa Calcium Silicate Bricks set a new dimension in home construction. Internationally renowned for their high comprehenssive strength, quality and aesthetic value, controlled by a British Standard 187, calsium bricks have proven their superiority over other kinds of building materials. Yet they are superiority priced to enable home owners the opportunities of experiencing their remarkable advantages"


Added on October 25, 2011, 11:18 pm
QUOTE(ckwong111 @ Oct 25 2011, 11:11 PM)
What's wrong with kalsa?

I googled and got the following:-

"Sleek, sharp, strong Kalsa Calcium Silicate Bricks set a new dimension in home construction. Internationally renowned for their high comprehenssive strength, quality and aesthetic value, controlled by a British Standard 187, calsium bricks have proven their superiority over other kinds of building materials. Yet they are superiority priced to enable home owners the opportunities of experiencing their remarkable advantages"
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Hei, I am not a brick salesman, but another interesting piece on Kalsa bricks...

Calcium Silicate Bricks [KALSA] are made by compressing a mixture of naturally clean raw materials – lime and sand – under high pressure steam; a process which chemically fuses the raw materials to form calcium silicate – a compound that is well known for its heat insulation properties. The lime and sand used is tested for consistency, fineness and purity. During the manufacturing process, below par bricks are automatically destroyed. The final product is subjected to impact tests to verify its tenacity.

Calcium Silicate Bricks offer a few distinct advantages such as economical, high compressive strength, heat resistance, sound insulation and durability that place them in a class above all other bricks.

1. Beauty – In their natural state, Calcium Silicate Bricks are white, a whiteness that remains even through years of weathering. By pre-mixing with pigments, Calcium Silicate Bricks of almost any colour can also be produced. This together with their perfect geometrical shape, uniformity in size and aesthetic appeal make Calcium Silicate Bricks most suitable as a decorative medium in home construction or as facing bricks.

2. Economical – Their uniform size and shape enable easier and fast bricklaying. Being hard, damage by rough handling on site is only minimal. This give saving in terms of materials, labour, time and cost.

3. High compressive strength – Compacted and steam-cured at high temperatures and pressures makes the bricks have high compressive strength. This, together with good load-bearing capability makes Calcium Silicate Bricks ideal for non-frame construction.

4. Heat Resistance – Calcium Silicate Bricks have exceptional heat insulation characteristics, thus ensuring a cool, crisp interior.

5. Sound insulation – Their good sound insulation properties keeps your working and living environment quiet and peaceful.

6. Durability – Calcium Silicate Bricks harden with age. As they do not contain soluble salts, they do not disintegrate.

This post has been edited by ckwong111: Oct 25 2011, 11:18 PM
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post Oct 26 2011, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(ckwong111 @ Oct 25 2011, 11:11 PM)
What's wrong with kalsa?

I googled and got the following:-

"Sleek, sharp, strong Kalsa Calcium Silicate Bricks set a new dimension in home construction. Internationally renowned for their high comprehenssive strength, quality and aesthetic value, controlled by a British Standard 187, calsium bricks have proven their superiority over other kinds of building materials. Yet they are superiority priced to enable home owners the opportunities of experiencing their remarkable advantages"


Added on October 25, 2011, 11:18 pm
Hei, I am not a brick salesman, but another interesting piece on Kalsa bricks...

Calcium Silicate Bricks [KALSA] are made by compressing a mixture of naturally clean raw materials – lime and sand – under high pressure steam; a process which chemically fuses the raw materials to form calcium silicate – a compound that is well known for its heat insulation properties. The lime and sand used is tested for consistency, fineness and purity. During the manufacturing process, below par bricks are automatically destroyed. The final product is subjected to impact tests to verify its tenacity.

Calcium Silicate Bricks offer a few distinct advantages such as economical, high compressive strength, heat resistance, sound insulation and durability that place them in a class above all other bricks.

1. Beauty – In their natural state, Calcium Silicate Bricks are white, a whiteness that remains even through years of weathering. By pre-mixing with pigments, Calcium Silicate Bricks of almost any colour can also be produced. This together with their perfect geometrical shape, uniformity in size and aesthetic appeal make Calcium Silicate Bricks most suitable as a decorative medium in home construction or as facing bricks.

2. Economical – Their uniform size and shape enable easier and fast bricklaying. Being hard, damage by rough handling on site is only minimal. This give saving in terms of materials, labour, time and cost.

3. High compressive strength – Compacted and steam-cured at high temperatures and pressures makes the bricks have high compressive strength. This, together with good load-bearing capability makes Calcium Silicate Bricks ideal for non-frame construction.

4. Heat Resistance – Calcium Silicate Bricks have exceptional heat insulation characteristics, thus ensuring a cool, crisp interior.

5. Sound insulation – Their good sound insulation properties keeps your working and living environment quiet and peaceful.

6. Durability – Calcium Silicate Bricks harden with age. As they do not contain soluble salts, they do not disintegrate.
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err...i think u shud ask some comments from contractors..instead of mr google.. blush.gif
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post Oct 26 2011, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(MsPopcorn @ Oct 26 2011, 05:42 PM)
err...i think u shud ask some comments from contractors..instead of mr google.. blush.gif
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Mmmm...u r right. Best person to check would be the contractors. I remember reading the forum a while back regarding kalsa bricks. Perhaps one of the sifus here can refresh me? icon_question.gif
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post Oct 26 2011, 11:40 PM

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what i read:-

clay > kalsa > sand
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post Oct 28 2011, 08:21 PM

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The metal roof looks hot to me.

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post Oct 28 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 26 2011, 11:40 PM)
what i read:-

clay > kalsa > sand
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khalsa is the highest grade bricks, it is the most expensive!
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post Oct 29 2011, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Maverick2011 @ Oct 28 2011, 11:24 PM)
khalsa is the highest grade bricks, it is the most expensive!
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QUOTE(Maverick2011 @ Oct 28 2011, 11:24 PM)
khalsa is the highest grade bricks, it is the most expensive!
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You mean Kalsa is the highest? ie, better than clay? any "specialist" can confirm?

sorry leh, I am not in the constructions or any related specialist. blush.gif

I have seen most high end constructions specifications, all are using clay and I thought this is the best (although it is still depending on the "types" of clay).
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Hey guys, i received a letter from TMS said that they will change the small store room to bigger store room for 2BLH(2 n half link house) ... anyone signed the letter? need to send back to them by 2 Nov 2011..
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QUOTE(Karas Otoha @ Oct 30 2011, 01:32 PM)
Hey guys, i received a letter from TMS said that they will change the small store room to bigger store room for 2BLH(2 n half link house) ... anyone signed the letter? need to send back to them by 2 Nov 2011..
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Yah, I received the same letter, signed and faxed back to them. No harms extending the storeroom, you can hack it off if you find it consuming too much of your kitchen space.
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post Oct 30 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(ckwong111 @ Oct 25 2011, 11:11 PM)
What's wrong with kalsa?

I googled and got the following:-

"Sleek, sharp, strong Kalsa Calcium Silicate Bricks set a new dimension in home construction. Internationally renowned for their high comprehenssive strength, quality and aesthetic value, controlled by a British Standard 187, calsium bricks have proven their superiority over other kinds of building materials. Yet they are superiority priced to enable home owners the opportunities of experiencing their remarkable advantages"


Added on October 25, 2011, 11:18 pm
Hei, I am not a brick salesman, but another interesting piece on Kalsa bricks...

Calcium Silicate Bricks [KALSA] are made by compressing a mixture of naturally clean raw materials – lime and sand – under high pressure steam; a process which chemically fuses the raw materials to form calcium silicate – a compound that is well known for its heat insulation properties. The lime and sand used is tested for consistency, fineness and purity. During the manufacturing process, below par bricks are automatically destroyed. The final product is subjected to impact tests to verify its tenacity.

Calcium Silicate Bricks offer a few distinct advantages such as economical, high compressive strength, heat resistance, sound insulation and durability that place them in a class above all other bricks.

1. Beauty – In their natural state, Calcium Silicate Bricks are white, a whiteness that remains even through years of weathering. By pre-mixing with pigments, Calcium Silicate Bricks of almost any colour can also be produced. This together with their perfect geometrical shape, uniformity in size and aesthetic appeal make Calcium Silicate Bricks most suitable as a decorative medium in home construction or as facing bricks.

2. Economical – Their uniform size and shape enable easier and fast bricklaying. Being hard, damage by rough handling on site is only minimal. This give saving in terms of materials, labour, time and cost.

3. High compressive strength – Compacted and steam-cured at high temperatures and pressures makes the bricks have high compressive strength. This, together with good load-bearing capability makes Calcium Silicate Bricks ideal for non-frame construction.

4. Heat Resistance – Calcium Silicate Bricks have exceptional heat insulation characteristics, thus ensuring a cool, crisp interior.

5. Sound insulation – Their good sound insulation properties keeps your working and living environment quiet and peaceful.

6. Durability – Calcium Silicate Bricks harden with age. As they do not contain soluble salts, they do not disintegrate.
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lol... kalsa brick is slightly cheaper than clay brick...

recently proposed red kalsa... still cheaper than clay brick and red in color.... =)


Added on October 30, 2011, 8:05 pm
QUOTE(Maverick2011 @ Oct 28 2011, 11:24 PM)
khalsa is the highest grade bricks, it is the most expensive!
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it's kalsa... kalsa is slightly cheaper than clay brick...

during may to september, there r a huge shortage in clay brick in the market...

therefore no choice that have to proposed kalsa brick otherwise the work progress will be delayed alot... end up some of the phase/ block will be using kalsa... but not whole building, onli particular wall like upper floor, party wall and etc...
it's depend on the contractor's team to manage...

there are some owner complaint, so clay brick will be the 1st priority compare to kalsa...

now the clay brick supply is back to normal, so the in coming construction will not be a problem...


Added on October 30, 2011, 8:13 pm
QUOTE(Footyking @ Oct 23 2011, 09:12 AM)
Visited the bglow show hse yesterday.. materials used much better with proper timber strips compared with semi d..
I wish the semi d double volume portion can be done similar to bglow.. Takes up less space and looks better than the
Straight line concept in semi d.. Overall quite nice. MS confirmed balcony for semi d need to be set back.. Let's collectively ask for some upgrades.. Proper timber strips at least..
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yellow balau & nyatoh timber flooring.

This post has been edited by kakashi...: Oct 30 2011, 08:13 PM
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lol... kalsa is cheaper than clay brick lot...

recently we proposed red kalsa... looks like clay brick and slightly cheaper and red in color.... =)
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I may just chip in here. kalsa / clay cheaper ? Like some mentioned, depending on quality / grade either may top each other. Though compare the similar grade, clay should never cost "lot" more as stated. And I've never heard of "red kalsa" could well be something new that I'm not aware of. It will be a study of civil engineering - materials if this were to drag on.... Here are few points (not about cost or anything):

It's about materials and abide by their characteristic and "physicality" of the built (stop at this depth). I did looked through some civil materials (specifically on bricks) sometime back when this topic was brought up some months back. Some civil engineer here may back me on this?

* About having them bared (no plaster / outer coating) Kalsa (if applied correctly) result better in terms of out look, strength and durability - reason (uniform shape, uniform hardness inside out). Real engineering fact: Kalsa are used as building support in situation like piling restriction or harden earth surface. Factual they provide better fortifying structure than clay. This is because after laying effect of clay (expand) is harder to be estimated comparably, and we are referring to every single brick

* Having coating / plaster - not much difference between clay / kalsa but the after laying characteristic (clay expand, kalsa shrink) does make a difference... remember the first point about Kalsa (if applied correctly)

About may be some lame fact. But here's my observation from my study:
When Kalsa is in used, workmanship is utmost important - thickness of plaster / cement between bricks, moist / dampness. I learn that Kalsa is less forgiving to error ratio. While clay need to be somewhat wet, the laying work are less skilled-intense.

So, we are seeing a lot of Indon and we know they are the ones putting up those bricks...

But, I learn something new from my site visit last week. But I'll share all my 3 visits (particularly about built walls and prepared to-be-used bricks are piled in front of houses):

1st visit (1.5months ago): 2sty and 2.5 sty are using mixture of sand and kalsa (mostly sand), 3sty using mixture clay and kalsa mostly clay. and the clay bricks are high grades - visibly dark orange complexion and very even shape considerably.

2nd visit (some 3wks ago): 2sty and 2.5 remain, 3sty: mixture of previous seen high grade clay plus low grade ones on some recent build walls, plus a lot of kalsa piled in front of houses (without a single clay pile)

3nd visit (some 10 days ago): 3sty: the kalsa are gone???? piles of clay brick (high grades) in front of houses??? I was told by the SA the kalsa has been shift to Garden Residence, Cyberjaya (which during the conversation, they said GR is always having higher grade materials and kalsa was moved in KR because of sudden short of clay in market, same case applied to Semi-Ds in KR - using clay as well, saw few units wall up, they are clay). Thought GR price is lower (some more freehold and much bigger build-up) but they said land cost cheaper...

Whatever... personally, I like to think Kalsa to be superior "on paper" - but I feel slightly more at peace if clay is used...
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post Oct 31 2011, 12:11 AM

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went there today, now mah sing use back kalsa bricks vmad.gif


Added on October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
QUOTE(kakashi... @ Oct 30 2011, 07:59 PM)

but not whole building, onli particular wall like upper floor, party wall and etc...
it's depend on the contractor's team to manage...

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mine was done by contractor who use kalsa vmad.gif

some rows all clay bricks..different contractors cry.gif

This post has been edited by MsPopcorn: Oct 31 2011, 12:15 AM
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post Oct 31 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Immortal @ Oct 30 2011, 07:02 PM)
Yah, I received the same letter, signed and faxed back to them. No harms extending the storeroom, you can hack it off if you find it consuming too much of your kitchen space.
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Not only the kitchen space and also your living room.. anyway, i also submitted tongue.gif

BTW, i read all people worry about kalsa brick, how about our house? what brick?
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QUOTE(Karas Otoha @ Oct 31 2011, 03:30 PM)
Not only the kitchen space and also your living room.. anyway, i also submitted tongue.gif

BTW, i read all people worry about kalsa brick, how about our house? what brick?
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any idea why TMS change the layout and increase the store room space? n
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QUOTE(Antzfield @ Oct 31 2011, 03:58 PM)
any idea why TMS change the layout and increase the store room space? n
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in the letter it written they've received a lot of feedback from the buyers... hmm.gif



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QUOTE(vevex @ Oct 30 2011, 08:58 PM)
I may just chip in here. kalsa / clay cheaper ? Like some mentioned, depending on quality / grade either may top each other. Though compare the similar grade, clay should never cost "lot" more as stated. And I've never heard of "red kalsa" could well be something new that I'm not aware of. It will be a study of civil engineering - materials if this were to drag on.... Here are few points (not about cost or anything):

It's about materials and abide by their characteristic and "physicality" of the built (stop at this depth). I did looked through some civil materials (specifically on bricks) sometime back when this topic was brought up some months back. Some civil engineer here may back me on this?

* About having them bared (no plaster / outer coating) Kalsa (if applied correctly) result better in terms of out look, strength and durability - reason (uniform shape, uniform hardness inside out). Real engineering fact: Kalsa are used as building support in situation like piling restriction or harden earth surface. Factual they provide better fortifying structure than clay. This is because after laying effect of clay (expand)  is harder to be estimated comparably, and we are referring to every single brick

* Having coating / plaster - not much difference between clay / kalsa but the after laying characteristic (clay expand, kalsa shrink) does make a difference... remember the first point about Kalsa (if applied correctly)

About may be some lame fact. But here's my observation from my study:
When Kalsa is in used, workmanship is utmost important - thickness of plaster / cement between bricks, moist / dampness. I learn that Kalsa is less forgiving to error ratio. While clay need to be somewhat wet, the laying work are less skilled-intense.

So, we are seeing a lot of Indon and we know they are the ones putting up those bricks...

But, I learn something new from my site visit last week. But I'll share all my 3 visits (particularly about built walls and prepared to-be-used bricks are piled in front of houses):

1st visit (1.5months ago): 2sty and 2.5 sty are using mixture of sand and kalsa (mostly sand), 3sty using mixture clay and kalsa mostly clay. and the clay bricks are high grades - visibly dark orange complexion and very even shape considerably.

2nd visit (some 3wks ago): 2sty and 2.5 remain, 3sty: mixture of previous seen high grade clay plus low grade ones on some recent build walls, plus a lot of kalsa piled in front of houses (without a single clay pile)

3nd visit (some 10 days ago): 3sty: the kalsa are gone???? piles of clay brick (high grades) in front of houses??? I was told by the SA the kalsa has been shift to Garden Residence, Cyberjaya (which during the conversation, they said GR is always having higher grade materials and kalsa was moved in KR because of sudden short of clay in market, same case applied to Semi-Ds in KR - using clay as well, saw few units wall up, they are clay). Thought GR price is lower (some more freehold and much bigger build-up) but they said land cost cheaper...

Whatever... personally, I like to think Kalsa to be superior "on paper" - but I feel slightly more at peace if clay is used...
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red kalsa with me now... lol... gonna submit to architect for approval 2molo...

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