5830 is a fail product from the beginning.
it's a cripple cypress.
the real existence of 5830 is to increase cypress yield.
if u recall, a while bck, TSMC has problem wit low 40nm yield percentage.
5830 is created to not waste too much cypress chip.

i cant wait to see how accurate is the prediction about GTX460 in Malaysia market.. hehe

North America already have action about 5830. From USD239 drop to USD199. China from 1799元 drop to 1499元. Too bad no action for 5850 yet.
The pic is Euro price

nice infos..hope not just for 5850,5870 as well..

40 doolars drop means around RM120-150 drop. marilah tengok berapa lolyat plaza akan kurang. i smell crossfire soon

overall aside from the price, 5850 is still better thn gtx 460 ryte?

The 5830 price drop should be common sense if ATi wants to deal with the GTX460.

But price drop for the 5850 is a different story...ever since I bought my HD5850 in Nov 2009 for around RM950, I got the feeling that for it's performance - the price is somehow right and justified, esp if compared to it's Nvidia competitor the GTX285, which is way more expensive...(BTW, the 5850 is already considered 'bang~for-bucks', so should make sense the price wouldn't be lowered...)

So my point is, the 5850 will/might stay the same price because the price range for the 5850 is suitable for it at the moment...UNTIL the 6 Series comes out to play early next year or end of this year....OR price drop for GTX470!

if higher than 1920x1080, 5850 has the advantage
lower than that, the gtx460 is close behind (not if its overclocked)

but thn if 5850 OC oso can surely beat 460 even if its OC ryte?

5850 oc sure can beat gtx 460 anytime.

However do consider this, you have a cheaper alternative by say, 200+ bucks and if oced its performance is similar to hd 5850. Now that's worth it for those who don't mind slightly slower performance and want to spend their 200 bucks elsewhere.

no i mean 5850 OC vs 460 OC

i play games on 1920x1200 so i should stick with 5850

If the 5850 price goes lower,i'll buy.

"Ati pawn you all!" (fanboy statement)



on 2nd thought,its good to have competition at least.
Benefit all the consumers.

This post has been edited by Turnip: Jul 16 2010, 08:32 AM

Galaxy GeForce GTX 460 Super OC 1GB

This GC, priced only at RM775, OWNED the stock 5850!
I've check most benchmarks such as on Tweaktown, Tom's HW, etc. and this GC is either equal or a tad bit faster than the 5850 default clocks...

What does this means?
I will reconsider what I said before about the 5850 would not have a price drop because it desperately needs it to counter these premium OC'ed GTX460's...

Of course a 900mhz/1200 @ 1.15v OC'ed HD5850 can beat the OC'ed GTX460 without the slightest of a doubt, but the GTX460 already proves that it has thread into the 5850's (stock) territory...while being approx. RM200 cheaper!


Oh about the hopelessly and almost non-contributory 5830, that cards needs to drop the price waay lower, almost close to the current 5770 price while the 'bang~for~the~bucks' 5850 indeed needs to drop the price a bit, (and don't forget price drop for the 5770 as well, Cross-Fire!!!!!)
With these three cards having a drop in their price, ATi will for sure counter big time any Nvidia's ploy to win over the GC market...


haha, I miss this price war...consumers are smiling again after more than half a year of Red domination...

Radeon HD 5830 Gets Price-Cuts, Takes Aim at GeForce GTX 460
Call it one of the immediate repercussions of NVIDIA's Monday launch of the GeForce GTX 460, AMD has responded covertly with noticeable price-cuts for the ATI Radeon HD 5830 graphics card, from across various AIB partners. Leading partners such as Sapphire, HIS, and Gigabyte positioned their models that have AMD-reference clock speeds at US $199.99, and factory-overclocked models starting at $229.99. Incidentally these are two price-points NVIDIA is targeting with the GeForce GTX 460, with the 768 MB variant positioned at $199.99, which NVIDIA refers to as the gamers' sweet-spot, and the 1 GB variant at $229.99.

Reviews from across the web show that while GeForce GTX 460 768MB gets close to the Radeon HD 5830 in terms of performance, it only takes the 1 GB variant to perform on par. With AMD positioning the HD 5830 at $199, and factory-overclocked HD 5830 starting at $229.99, things could get heated up in this market segment. Based on the 40 nm Cypress GPU, the Radeon HD 5830 is DirectX 11 compatible, packs 1120 stream processors, and 1 GB of GDDR5 memory.
http://techpowerup.com/126634/Radeon_HD_58...ce_GTX_460.html

seriously...

this
GTX460


or this?
5850


i like the ati's design more though

or i'll go for 5770 CF(using 5770 now).

This post has been edited by Turnip: Jul 16 2010, 09:15 AM

how's the thermal performance? deng i need to start reading those reviews

I'm using 5850 and I luv every bit of it!
But If an OC'ed GTX460 can match the stock 5850 performance, and RM200 cheaper, the current price of the 5850 must be adjust accordingly, ASAP..

Anyways a stock GTX460 isn't comparable to 5850, it's those premium OC'ed gtx460 that's threatening the 5850...
Yeah, this one they still have a debate on the LYN Nvidia Thread, some says it's cooler than the 5770 on LOAD, some says it's hot like it's older siblings the GTX470 and 480...ETC.
But that Galaxy GTX460 OC'ed is noisy(those detachable fan) from the reviews, still, let's hear from the GTX460 owner's themselves later on...

The thermal is better due to the new GF104 chip

which shop in Malaysia is selling it for RM775??