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 AMD Radeon™ Discussion V3, Prepare Red! Green has attacked!

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post Jul 18 2010, 03:00 AM

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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jul 18 2010, 02:37 AM)
i think the answer is YES
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The answer is NO.
They are equal only. I mean 2x Radeon HD5850 CFX vs 1x Radeon HD5970.
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QUOTE(Cinta Laura @ Jul 18 2010, 02:29 AM)
5850 crossfire can beat 5970 ?
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actually 5970 is 2x 5870 in downclock mode.

actually the cooler is built well enough to handle 2x 5870 in full clock, but ATI only downclock bcoz dun wan the TDP to b too high.
5970 can b oc to 5870 clock without breaking a sweat.
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QUOTE(V3nz @ Jul 18 2010, 02:37 AM)
i think the answer is YES
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Depend on the game and resolution you play.

Far Cry 2

Crysis

Resident Evil 5
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having problem with display..its randomly keeps getting blinking black screen when i use HDMI output to my tv..it happen either CF or single card.. need help please
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post Jul 18 2010, 01:32 PM

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between 5850 and GTX470 , which one more good in performance ? wondering laugh.gif sry if wrong thread
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QUOTE(Cinta Laura @ Jul 18 2010, 01:32 PM)
between 5850 and GTX470 , which one more good in performance ? wondering laugh.gif sry if wrong thread
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LOL you're asking in the RED forum..

my take, overall 5850 will win (considering price/performance/wattage/heat etc)
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post Jul 18 2010, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Cinta Laura @ Jul 18 2010, 01:32 PM)
between 5850 and GTX470 , which one more good in performance ? wondering laugh.gif sry if wrong thread
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take 460 if u haven't get one thumbup.gif , nice to see nvidia strikes back, ati may need to lower 5850 / 5870 price too apart frm 5830
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Jul 18 2010, 03:03 PM)
take 460 if u haven't get one thumbup.gif , nice to see nvidia strikes back, ati may need to lower 5850 / 5870 price too apart frm 5830
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5850 still wins.. they've not yet compared dx11 games with 460 vs 5850
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post Jul 18 2010, 02:58 PM

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yes, gtx 460 is a bit slower in DX11 games when compared to 5850, but the price difference is quite big. Performance per price for gtx 460 is better with gtx 460
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The 5850 slotted nicely in the GC market for the price of RM1000 (approx.) if looked upon by the average gamers. (not them rich folks or enthusiast, etc.)

The 5870 is faster, but already breaks the RM1000 bar/margin... (In my opinion, graphic card's price are ideal for any range of consumers when no more than RM1000)
5850 can OC to match 5870 while still maintain being no more than RM1000. nod.gif

So this card at the moment is dubbed 'bang~for~the~bucks'..........as for the GTX470, it's price is similar to the 5870 but Nvidia claims it's a direct competitor for the 5850, but we know it's technically not...it competes with the 5870 and the 5870 pwned it...
The competitors for the 5850 are GTX460 and GTX465: The 5850 can beat the GTX460 most of the time (and better @ high res) while GTX465 is too hot and consumes more power than 5850, but a bit better than 5850...


So again, the 5850 still a nicely placed card in the market...but as for the moment, it needs to decrease it's price ASAP to retain that rep as a "good buy" card...

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OC the 5850 can same performance with 5870 in stock ?
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QUOTE(Cinta Laura @ Jul 18 2010, 03:03 PM)
OC the 5850 can same performance with 5870 in stock ?
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I can OC my Powrcolor 5850 to:
900mhz/1200 @ 1.15v to score similar points in 3DMark Vantage as my friend's Asus 5870.

Then later he OC'd his 5870 to 1ghz to ejek me mad.gif


But these days I stop OC'ing the card since it can easily handle most of the games out there...last time OC'ed when Metro 2033 was released couple of months ago.... sweat.gif
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post Jul 18 2010, 04:17 PM

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better buy hd5850 1gb or hd5870 1gb??i can get it at a price more or less d same..

d hd5870 spec:

Graphics Engine ATI Radeon HD 5870

Bus Standard PCI Express 2.1

Video Memory DDR5 1GB

Engine Clock 850 MHz

Memory Clock 4.8 GHz ( 1.2 GHz DDR5 )

Memory Interface 256-bit

CRT Max Resolution 2048 x 1536

DVI Max Resolution 2560 x 1600

VGA Output Yes x 1 (via DVI to D-Sub adaptor x 1 )

DVI Output Yes x2

HDMI Output Yes x1

DisplayPort Yes x1

HDCP Support Yes

Adaptor/Cable bundled


1 x HDMI to DVI adaptor
1 x DVI to D-Sub adaptor
1 x CrossFire cable
2 x Power cable

Software Bundled


ASUS Utilities & Driver


the Card Size is 11 inches x 5 inches.
Native Display Port
Native HDMI
Native Dual-link DVI-I
Single-link DVI (via HDMI to DVI Adapter)
D-Sub (via DVI to D-Sub Adaptor)

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QUOTE(hasyir @ Jul 18 2010, 04:17 PM)
better buy hd5850 2gb or hd5870 1gb??i can see tht d price is more or less d same..

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The 2G doesn't mean higher performance, but means it can perform at higher resolution without performance deficit, usually waaaay above 1920X1200.
Or without performance deficit when doing Eyefinity 3. rclxms.gif

The ASUS EAH5870 is the better performer between those two cards you mentioned.
But I'm not sure which performs better on very high res, let's say if for example both cards are to be played on a 32" monitor........ hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

.... it puzzles me why there's a 2G version of 5850 with the similar price of 5870 when a 5870 out-performs the 5850 obviously...




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A 32" 1920x1080 monitor? The 5870 1GB of course. tongue.gif
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yerps...im using a 32" fhd monitor..
so d 5870 is a better choice??
that makes life much more easier...hehehe
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post Jul 18 2010, 08:04 PM

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Yeap. The screen size doesn't matter. It is the screen resolution that matters, as that is the only thing any graphics card deals with.

A HD 5870 can easily handle gaming on a wide screen 32", 50", 104", and even a hundred kilometers tall with 1920x1080 resolution. With an old game, even a HD 4670 can do the same.

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QUOTE(everling @ Jul 18 2010, 08:04 PM)
Yeap. The screen size doesn't matter. It is the screen resolution that matters, as that is the only thing any graphics card deals with.

A HD 5870 can easily handle gaming on a wide screen a hundred kilometers tall with 1920x1080 resolution. With an old game, even a HD 4670 can do the same.
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den u'll b seeing few meter * few meter for 1 block of pixel.......
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Well, at least our astronaut can play a nice game of Crysis from orbit. tongue.gif

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