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szeping
post Apr 29 2005, 12:28 AM

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I thought magnus and sven are in different team?
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post Apr 29 2005, 03:59 AM

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They are, i guess they are talking about ap
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post Apr 29 2005, 04:53 AM

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lolz!
IF they are in the same side, imagine the chaos!!
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post Apr 29 2005, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(YuuYuu @ Apr 28 2005, 08:10 PM)
i just counted using calculator liao
it's 710 O_o
but i think that's a little exaggerated cause 200 base dmg quite high
have any of you guys notice that sven and magnus actually quite simliar, they both have a stun, they both have a buff and they both have cleave O_O
but then got slight differences though
GS is ulti making it more for killing heroes while empower has damn low mana cost making it useful for farming, summore can buff allies
magnus' nuke i say is much better than sven's nuke cause aoe damage summore can damage towers!!!! it's a really good source of income as it makes it so much easier to get tower kills.
another thing is magnus' cleave has larger radius than sven's cleave
from the way i talking also know i wanna say magnus > sven tongue.gif

oo oo i forgot to add, magnus has a bigger ass than sven happy.gif
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yeah ... Magnus is indeed hell of a killer ... but with same item and same equip AND both are level 25
Magnus cant really kill sven ...
cus Magnus's level 1 stun is only 3 second but got very very long cool down edi
while sven's stun has 2 second BUT very very short cooldown time.
and magnus cant use his level 3 stun as frequent as level 1 stun
XD i always never learn level 2 or 3 stun for magnus, cus all i wanted to do is to stun stun stun and kill XD
i havent lost any rounds using magnus ... at least until now

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post Apr 29 2005, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(szeping @ Apr 28 2005, 12:08 AM)
Question about 6.06: Does hand of midas/yasha/power thread stack?
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ermm... so do they stack?
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post Apr 29 2005, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(szeping @ Apr 29 2005, 07:53 AM)
ermm... so do they stack?
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the atk speed DOES stack......
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post Apr 29 2005, 01:20 PM

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this reminds me of a time when i was just starting out dota and bought two hypers. this malatlou bone fellow came and told me 'hey hyperstones don't stack'... i was like,

'realleh? why do i feel like my attack speed is faster one'

'nolah it doesn't stack!'

'then what am i supposed to do with this.. thing i spent 2450 gold for!?!?!'

'well you can give it to me, selling it is quite a waste'

'oklah.. here have it... curse my noob ignorace!'

well curse my noob ignorance indeed>:(
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post Apr 29 2005, 03:21 PM

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hmm same item doesnt stack
different item stacks i think ... XD
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post Apr 29 2005, 04:56 PM

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nope - IF it doesnt stack it will be stated.
however, im not sure for items such as BATTLEFURY.....never get to see the % increase in cleaving attack, juz the damage only ><l

but yea, 2++ hyperstones do stack. the only speed that doesnt stack is movement speed - it's be too cheating if one hero has 3 threads and was chasing heroes like a dog....
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post Apr 29 2005, 08:05 PM

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I thought any hyperstones more than 2 would have diminishing effects?

I only know that the most SENSIBLE thing to do is stack a maximum of 2 hyperstones. sweat.gif
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post Apr 29 2005, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(jasonlcy @ Apr 29 2005, 08:05 PM)
I thought any hyperstones more than 2 would have diminishing effects?

I only know that the most SENSIBLE thing to do is stack a maximum of 2 hyperstones. sweat.gif
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i dunno....
but the later versions (6.xx) seem to be working....
or maybe it's juz my imagination
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later try on cheats to confirm XD
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post Apr 29 2005, 11:10 PM

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it's not the 2 hyperstones that cause a diminishing effect.
it's the great increase in atk spd
once your atk speed reach 100% + liao, any atk speed increase won't be as evident as your earlier ones
and all atk speeds stack, while some walk/run speed stack, like boots, yasha and frenzy skill stack
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sange & yasha rox even more biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2005, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(YuuYuu @ Apr 29 2005, 11:10 PM)
it's not the 2 hyperstones that cause a diminishing effect.
it's the great increase in atk spd
once your atk speed reach 100% + liao, any atk speed increase won't be as evident as your earlier ones
and all atk speeds stack, while some walk/run speed stack, like boots, yasha and frenzy skill stack
yasha rox happy.gif
sange & yasha rox even more biggrin.gif
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harr??
walking speed stacks?!
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post Apr 30 2005, 12:15 AM

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depends... like if u use threads then u can't stack with BoTs..
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post Apr 30 2005, 01:41 AM

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Meaning BoT will stack with sange & yasha?
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post Apr 30 2005, 02:39 AM

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Yesterday play one AR game.
We get 5 stunner team...
Opposite got balanar, medusa, sniper and ursa and another hero(forget cos he leave)

Later our team also 1 leaver...
So the game balance..

We kill the team like taufu... Keep killing until we get all the tower and only left 3 barrack..

Suddenly their medusa with burize, butterfly and manta come to our base.

I just want to ask u all 1 question?
If u was me at that time, what u will do?

Just let u know, if I push I sure win... But I choose to stay at fountain and let them win...
Ur comment.
They some more is a clan, and we are just normal player, from the private server many of us playing here....
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post Apr 30 2005, 03:04 AM

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QUOTE(SyntaxEnt @ Apr 30 2005, 02:39 AM)
Yesterday play one AR game.
We get 5 stunner team...
Opposite got balanar, medusa, sniper and ursa and another hero(forget cos he leave)

Later our team also 1 leaver...
So the game balance..

We kill the team like taufu... Keep killing until we get all the tower and only left 3 barrack..

Suddenly their medusa with burize, butterfly and manta come to our base.

I just want to ask u all 1 question?
If u was me at that time, what u will do?

Just let u know, if I push I sure win... But I choose to stay at fountain and let them win...
Ur comment.
They some more is a clan, and we are just normal player, from the private server many of us playing here....
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Eh? Since u said if u push, u sure win...then y didn't u push and instead stay at fountain?
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post Apr 30 2005, 04:55 AM

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QUOTE(Vampyr3 @ Apr 30 2005, 03:04 AM)
Eh? Since u said if u push, u sure win...then y didn't u push and instead stay at fountain?
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a funny yet intriguing question indeed tongue.gif
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post Apr 30 2005, 02:11 PM

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Because we all want to let him know if he so desperate want to win, we just let him win...

I dont like ppl play manta with medusa...

Maybe for u, didnt bother about it.
But for me, its a cheap way
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post Apr 30 2005, 02:18 PM

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And your point is? To show off that you can win yet you chose not to because you are so ' keng '?
Pumping though boring, is the greatest way to win tourneys.
I presume it is still 5.84 you are playing.
And in your list the Medusa did not have a BKB. 5 stunners, ever heard of perma-stun then?
And you do not have to come in here talking about cheap ways or anything, Medusa is cheap alright ( followed closely by Morphling ), but this was fixed in 6.xx versions. So either play that version, or accept that fact if you wanna play 5.84. That tactic is incoprated, so why not use it? Just like double blink stomp, or cyclone + wards, etc.

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