I use bladefury for juggernaut recently, just to chase heroes away to avoid any xp leech. And of course, since his mana pool is quite less, you need to fully utilise the fury to chase or to run away. Anyway, if I am facing a nuker, I will get ward instead of fury.

Usual + useful items for my juggy = power thread, MoM, basher, guinsoo scynthe (for mana to fury and disable) & MKB.

Well, I tried desolator on necro'lic. It works pretty fine with frenzy on... somemore you have "allies" gargoyles around, which can deal decent damages. Clinkz can WW when he's in danger; and I can blink away More important thing is, I find it's easier to farm using necro'lic than clinkz.

Another caster with desolator build is prophet. Teleport + sprout + attack + dagon + wrath most probably will end up with a kill.

Stubborn noobs >> Leavers in term of causing you the game.

I met a newbie silencer, who just bought a boot in the beginning, then nothing until I was level 14 ~! And he never heal anyone ~! At first I thought he wanted to save for ultimate orb, but he never bought it when his cash was 2.5k... so I asked him. And his answer was "Radience"

But by that time, we were already losing (the game down to 3v3)... and opponent kept on picking him, who didn't even heal himself ~! And he always died with 300+ mana left... I asked him to get simple items first, like scepter to keep him alive, but he was very stubborn. In the end, he never get 3k and above...

Another game with noob techie.

He used his remote mine to do "creep block" The medusa on the other side was already being powered up yet he was doing the "trick". I asked him to release the creeps because medusa will whcak the creeps within seconds and get fast cash instantly but he never listen.

Luckily we have already destroyed many buildings because by killing several creep waves, the medusa was equipped with scepter + burize + MoM + rapier + 2 aegis! Also, medusa couldn't stay away from the base since we were camping outside, once he moved to one lane... we will go in from the other lane to attack buildings. If he can move out, with manta style, GG to me...

What they meant is, you can see the hero after casting it on the hero even if the hero turn into invisible.

Can morphling steal timestop and use refresher orb?

Off topic from clan match...

When I soul steal using TB, a zeus can interrupt me with lightning bolt, why?

Edit -> Anyone of you can provide the replays for the APIIT inter-college tourney?

This post has been edited by szeping: Apr 25 2005, 01:42 AM

Deso/Crys -> Stygian Desolator/Crystalis

Recipe for stygian is from peon; crystalis from peasant; radiance from acolyte.

Question about 6.06: Does hand of midas/yasha/power thread stack?

Quoted from the Sven's guide ni www.dota-allstars.info

"The low cost of the recipe ingredients for Crystalys make it easy to save up for and purchase. With the additional damage and Critical Strike from Crystalys, he will be able to inflict significant damage to heroes as well as farm incredibly fast. This will make it much easier to save 3200 gold for a Messerschmidt's Reaver. Keep in mind that Sven should have two Bracers, Power Treads, and Mask of Madness no later than level 11. That gives him from level 12-16 to get 6050 gold, which is easy to do if he farms constantly and get hero kills when given the opportunity.

Then at level 17 he will have 115 strength and 439 damage (768 damage Critical Strike) with God's Strength activated. He will also have 105% attack speed with Power Treads and Mask of Madness activated, not counting additional agility from increased Stats, which means he can deal over 3200 damage in 10 seconds without getting Critical Strike or using Storm Bolt. Over 1900 of that damage will splash to enemy units within melee range. Sven can use this incredible power to farm his way to bigger items by annihilating creep waves, killing heroes, or soloing towers."

What the writer meant is the item order, crystalis + reaver > only burize or only heart with god strength.

I thought magnus and sven are in different team?

ermm... so do they stack?

Recent tourneys are based on 5.84c version.

Thanks for the replay YuuYuu. It's indeed a surprising ending... Do you have other replays of Final?

huh? just change .txt to .w3g is good enough.

Yeah, totally agree with YuuYuu As you can see, there are only several heroes can work efficiently after being pumped. So the other heroes are just compliments or cash generators to pump. I would rather involve in a 5v5 chaos fight, hahaha... where everyone's role is "quite" equally distributed.

Just my 3 cents, Cheese.... don't lecture me, joking joking

SeeD, stop flaming leh... I don't wish to see this thread to be filled with arguments

Ermm... one question, if you just have level 1 lucent beam, does it mean that your eclipse does less damage?

Oh, I don't know that thetard is a girl She seldom showed up recently...

Last night game:

Game was down to 3v2, I was using omniknight with techie and vengeful spirit vs jugger and drow ranger. When we got 8 towers down at level 19, then VS suggested to play a trick with techie which I wasn't being informed. The VS put ALL his items in the middle of 6 remote mines... including a burize, MoM, thread and broadsword and bla bla bla... then he swap the ranger into the mines while jugger is already inside the mines (I was in the other lane). Just before techie detonated the mines, both of them activated BKB And I left the game afterwards when they killed techie and VS and took all the items.

Don't try this at home...

Ya, it's not so easy to get 20 kills on same level opponents. So far, I have only done that with luna, warchief and clinkz.

edit: Totally agree with Yukito, don't flame leh... very tiring to read the off topic posts.

This post has been edited by szeping: May 15 2005, 12:53 PM