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post Apr 18 2005, 04:52 PM, updated 20y ago

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Wow time flies and before u know it we are having a V2 thread for Dota. Keep up the constructive discussion guys and may DOTA live forever tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2005, 05:02 PM

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trust me when i say this:

there will be newcomers asking for more stats taht was being already stated in the V1. an with 2500 posts, well it's kinda hard lol....

...but whatever, i'd juz repost again......

LONG LIVE DOTA!!!!!
....till i got married with kids tongue.gif laugh.gif

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post Apr 18 2005, 05:17 PM

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weeeeeeeeee~! v2 thread liao smile.gif

anyway, bringing forward the discussions from the past thread tongue.gif

sanji, regarding not buying any rings at all, well i find it hard to farm and stay in a lane for long if i'm forced to be against a heavy nuker. most of the time i stay behind creep lines and run here and there and when i see a creep about to die i run in front, land the final blow and fall back. most of the time i would've kena nuked sad.gif note that this is what i go through when using the centaur.

but then again i've fought against a sven myself when using a crystal maiden and actually i had more problems nuking him then he did doh.gif whenever i frosted him he'll throw a hammer at me. so i switched to nova alone but that didn't hurt him much either cause he sure had alot of hp and he throws a hammer at me whenever he feels like it which was really painful considering i don't have much hp so as a result i had to run back home giving him the chance to farm freely...
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post Apr 18 2005, 05:23 PM

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hm... how to use juggy effectively??? i found him super easy to use... but but but... i think i nvr kill enough.... i see other people get 30-5 using juggy before... i usually pump ward and the critical one... i also use omni for finishing move... super good against tt bone and SA!!1 wahaha....remember last time i pwn them 15-1...
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post Apr 18 2005, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(viNcee @ Apr 18 2005, 05:17 PM)
weeeeeeeeee~! v2 thread liao smile.gif

anyway, bringing forward the discussions from the past thread tongue.gif

sanji, regarding not buying any rings at all, well i find it hard to farm and stay in a lane for long if i'm forced to be against a heavy nuker. most of the time i stay behind creep lines and run here and there and when i see a creep about to die i run in front, land the final blow and fall back. most of the time i would've kena nuked sad.gif note that this is what i go through when using the centaur.

but then again i've fought against a sven myself when using a crystal maiden and actually i had more problems nuking him then he did doh.gif whenever i frosted him he'll throw a hammer at me. so i switched to nova alone but that didn't hurt him much either cause he sure had alot of hp and he throws a hammer at me whenever he feels like it which was really painful considering i don't have much hp so as a result i had to run back home giving him the chance to farm freely...
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ok 1st, you DONT go head on against nukers at early rounds. you stay away from his/her zapping range, but far enough for you to leech xp from creeps. 2nd, you farm when it's clear or there are only melees.

and...seriously, when sven's got fed and has decent lv, there's noting you can do other than organizing a gangbang team to get rid of the threat.
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post Apr 18 2005, 07:45 PM

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LOL When I saw the title Dota Allstars 6.05 V2, I thought 6.05v2 come out already... smile.gif
Long story short = Happy birthday DOTA!!! Long life DOTA!!!
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QUOTE(newbie2 @ Apr 18 2005, 05:23 PM)
hm... how to use juggy effectively??? i found him super easy to use... but but but... i think i nvr kill enough.... i see other people get 30-5 using juggy before... i usually pump ward and the critical one... i also use omni for finishing move... super good against tt bone and SA!!1 wahaha....remember last time i pwn them 15-1...
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don't really use juggy but the last time i got him in an ar i went blade/stats and then getting crit later and only getting ward last. worked for me that time smile.gif


QUOTE(sanjikun @ Apr 18 2005, 05:55 PM)
ok 1st, you DONT go head on against nukers at early rounds. you stay away from his/her zapping range, but far enough for you to leech xp from creeps. 2nd, you farm when it's clear or there are only melees.

and...seriously, when sven's got fed and has decent lv, there's noting you can do other than organizing a gangbang team to get rid of the threat.
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so you're saying i'm supposed to just stand there in xp range and do nothing? sweat.gif i don't know. doesn't seem like a good idea to me. i prefer running in to land the final blow on a creep and backing off quickly. with a ring of regen the hp lost from nuke can be quickly gained back and i just repeat the process.
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post Apr 18 2005, 08:31 PM

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I use bladefury for juggernaut recently, just to chase heroes away to avoid any xp leech. And of course, since his mana pool is quite less, you need to fully utilise the fury to chase or to run away. Anyway, if I am facing a nuker, I will get ward instead of fury.

Usual + useful items for my juggy = power thread, MoM, basher, guinsoo scynthe (for mana to fury and disable) & MKB.
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post Apr 18 2005, 08:52 PM

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For juggy, I juz get 1 ward early in the game....personal fountain following u around so that u can continue leeching xp....heh heh....then up crits and stats.....wards come last......worked nicely enough
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QUOTE(viNcee @ Apr 18 2005, 07:52 PM)
so you're saying i'm supposed to just stand there in xp range and do nothing? sweat.gif i don't know. doesn't seem like a good idea to me. i prefer running in to land the final blow on a creep and backing off quickly. with a ring of regen the hp lost from nuke can be quickly gained back and i just repeat the process.
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that's what i do....let them shoot the tower for all i care, coz when i stunned them away it's my turn to farm. and you dont let them nuke you la, i mean, you let zeus
lightning bolt you 3 times only then you will back off meh? sometimes rings dont really work the way they should. besides, the additional stats, like aforementioned, will give you an added regen rate.
of course you will hit creeps whenever you can la... god willing, you can stun those creeps to get money too...... althought it's really waste not to be able to use it on heroes, but better than nothing.

and that's why i sometimes buy pots at the beginning - it may come handy when you are fighting against pushers, nukers or str melees....


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QUOTE(Vampyr3 @ Apr 18 2005, 08:52 PM)
For juggy, I juz get 1 ward early in the game....personal fountain following u around so that u can continue leeching xp....heh heh....then up crits and stats.....wards come last......worked nicely enough
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err....
somehow stats and crit doesnt work for me when im against magic users.
that's why i always max blade fury to farm creeps and max crit.
i dont use wards because i will be buying perseverance for him - use blade fury again to farm creeps and to hunt down heroes as well.
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post Apr 18 2005, 10:29 PM

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5.84d out. Not sure who release that. Not from official site for sure.
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post Apr 19 2005, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(sanjikun @ Apr 18 2005, 09:26 PM)
that's what i do....let them shoot the tower for all i care, coz when i stunned them away it's my turn to farm. and you dont let them nuke you la, i mean, you let zeus
lightning bolt you 3 times only then you will back off meh? sometimes rings dont really work the way they should. besides, the additional stats, like aforementioned, will give you an added regen rate.
of course you will hit creeps whenever you can la... god willing, you can stun those creeps to get money too...... althought it's really  waste not to be able to use it on heroes, but better than nothing.

and that's why i sometimes buy pots at the beginning - it may come handy when you are fighting against pushers, nukers or str melees....
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okiiee, thanks for clarifying smile.gif i'll go play around to see if i need that ring to suit my playing style


QUOTE(da3shou3 @ Apr 18 2005, 10:29 PM)
5.84d out. Not sure who release that. Not from official site for sure.
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another version? sweat.gif proves how many people dislike drastic changes. the people in the cc's i play in are still playing with 5.84c
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post Apr 19 2005, 01:02 AM

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ya i saw alot of 5.84d for ppl to dl just now but can't dl from them cos too many ppl leeching from 1 or 2 host only

any one tried out liao?? any changes?
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post Apr 19 2005, 08:47 AM

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5.84d? Are you sure? Where can I download it? Any new changes?
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post Apr 19 2005, 08:52 AM

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5.84d ??? unofficial release ar?? where to get ar?
Anyway great to see dota V2 hahah

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QUOTE(deef @ Apr 19 2005, 08:52 AM)
5.84d ??? unofficial release ar?? where to get ar?
Anyway great to see dota V2 hahah
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WOOT!
MONKEY D' LUFFY!!!!!!! drool.gif
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Sohai la the 5.84d... tried once... everybody was cursing coz the cooldown for the boot is like 5 min? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(da3shou3 @ Apr 19 2005, 01:39 PM)
Sohai la the 5.84d... tried once... everybody was cursing coz the cooldown for the boot is like 5 min? laugh.gif
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cooldown for the boot?? what boot u mean??? boot of travel??? unsure.gif
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post Apr 19 2005, 03:33 PM

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Lol....must be unofficial release then.......i thought guinsoo has quit making dota liao?

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