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maliqu3
post Jul 22 2010, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(weretiger @ Jul 22 2010, 03:26 AM)
why must you ask ppl to visit your blog leh? this forum suppose to give answer to ppl who needs help. discussion is open here. if want to help, just provide the answers, else stfu. your answer is not better than "just google it". then this forum can be closed if everyone like you.
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why must ask the same questions for many times when you can find the answers if you just read few pages back? yeah, this forum gives answers to ppl, that's why ppl need to explore and search the answer. I want to help, that's why i give him all the answers he might ask again in future by giving my blog so he doesnt need to ask again. i know my asnwers are not better than google (u dont hv to visit my blog anyway, so dont bother). at least i'm trying to help someone who is lazy to search via google, coz by googling you hv to search answers from many sources when i just give him one source that can answer his questions.

QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 22 2010, 08:17 AM)
You are plain rude. If you bother to visit his blog , he had taken a lot of effort to write out a simplified version - is not few sentences ; a mini essay. You expect him to copy and paste everytime a person ask such questions ? It is just ONE ( SATU )  click away , what is so difficult ?

I don't believe it till today people still want to be spoonfed right to the mouth - that's how you are. Hate to say it !
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Thanks bro for rooting for me. i appreciate it.
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post Jul 22 2010, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jul 22 2010, 02:15 PM)
Question here guys, i have been reading XDA a little bit and confused about the App2SD feature. I thought that was defaulted in Froyo? Why do some of the post there have written concerns about choosing a new App2SD or old version etc. Aren't they all the same on Froyo?
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I answer this before : repost here

Let me try to explain this with my limited knowledge. I know nothing about Linux/SD ext etc until I bought my Nexus 3 months ago. By default all apps will be install in main memory. However Google had said the latest ver 2.2 will allow apps to be install onto SD card - this is native apps2sd. To be able to have apps install to card , the developer of the apps must built in this option for you to choose during installation. As of now many of the apps still do not have this option and the apps will be install in memory even if you are on ver 2.2 Android/Froyo.

Before ver 2.2 was released, many of the rom cooks customize the rom of previous ver 2.1 and even present ver 2.2 to allow you to "force install" onto the SD card - if you were to read into the details of the roms, usually 2 types - install directly to sd card ( ie on the FAT32 portion ) or install onto extended partitions , commonly called sd ext. Before you can use sd ext partiotion, you must partition your sd card first - there are several methods , the easiest is to use custom recovery. Using custom recovery you firs select the swap size, then the size of the extended partition, default is ext 2 - normally most people will use 512 MB upwards ; I use 1024 M. Once you have create this ext 2 , you can immediate upgrade it to ext 3 ( with journalling features). I notice most rom cooks will ask you to setup ext 3 , only a minority will be ext 4. These extended partitions you cannot view it in your computer as is hidden ; similarly in the phone using the file explorer , you cannot see it. Installing apps into the sd ext is the most popular method so far used by the various rom cooks.

for those rom that are customized to allow you to install directly on the SD card - you can view all the files/apps. In my various trials of the different roms, I find that apps install to sd ext is most reliable, can say is 100 % reliable. For roms where you force install on the sd card directly ( so called native apps2sd), depending on rom , sometimes some apps are not display when you put it out on the homescreen - what you see is just a blank image , but the link to the app still work. I believe this issue is only temporary until the apps are modified to allow installation directly to the card

I hope with this simplified explanation, you have a better idea

Any Linux experts, please correct me if I am wrong or best of all explain it further
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post Jul 22 2010, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(valentinonkk @ Jul 22 2010, 02:36 PM)
Thanks. It is clear now.
I believe the same case happens for both SDHC & MicroSDHC.
It is not easy to get class 6. Most ppl carry class 2, 4 or 10 if i m not wrong.
So instead of getting class 6, u guys may consider class 10 which shld b easier to get. But of cos it is more expensive.
I got my class 10 SDHC card at LYP Sri Computer too. And i notice that PJ Digital Mall 2nd or 3rd floor has plenty of memory card there.

Pls correct me if i m wrong. TQ
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last month i kinda search for my self at the sri comp shelves there but i can only see class 4.
how much and what size did u get for ur microSD?
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post Jul 22 2010, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(i_bony @ Jul 22 2010, 02:23 PM)
do u know where to find one? digital mall any luck aa?
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PDA Gadget Zone sells it if I remember correctly
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post Jul 22 2010, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(leyley @ Jul 22 2010, 02:47 PM)
PDA Gadget Zone sells it if I remember correctly
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how much did u bought urs again over there?
thanks.
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post Jul 22 2010, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(squalledd @ Jul 22 2010, 12:37 PM)
Firmware version: 2.1-update1
Baseband version: 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-82821fb5 htc kernel@and18-2 #1
Build number: goapk 1.0
Software number: desire_1.0_sense
Browser Version: webkit 3.1

Hi.. I am Indonesian and i've just bought HTC Desire in Shanghai.
Apparently, after i going home in Indonesia, I've discovered something quite trouble some.

1. There is no Friend Stream software..
2. I cannot link my Facebook to every contact list... i even cannot tap "Link to Facebbok account"...
3. Pinch and Zoom is NOT ALWAYS work.. I need to restart the phone to make it work properly again.
I notice build number of my htc desire is GOAPK. Later on, i search on google and found out that it is Chinese HTC.
And as far as i know, in China, Facebook is forbidden...

Questions:
1. How to solve it so that all my 3 problems solved without adding another problem?
2. Can i change the software?

I will appreciate your opinion... Thank you..

And here it is HTC answer of my problem:
"Thank you for contacting us again. Considering the technical details of your device the situation is as follows: your device was an Italian device initially. The device has been bought from Italy and imported in China. Someone tried to flash the original ROM on the phone with the Chinese version. This operation has failed and consequently, the functionality of the device has been affected. We would recommend you to return the device to the retailer and ask for a refund. Due to the fact that the device has been flashed, even the repair centre will refuse to repair it, as this device it's been damaged completely. I trust that this resolves your query. Please do not hesitate to contact us again if required."

Can i just reflash the ROM?
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do u install swype on ur phone? if yes, then u will find that pinch and zoom dont always work. try to change to original keyboard from message box b4 u use pinch and zoom.
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post Jul 22 2010, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(i_bony @ Jul 22 2010, 02:46 PM)
last month i kinda search for my self at the sri comp shelves there but i can only see class 4.
how much and what size did u get for ur microSD?
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It is not MicroSDHC. Mine is 8gb class 10 SDHC sandisk memory card.
I got it for around RM180-195 if i m not wrong. rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(valentinonkk @ Jul 22 2010, 02:51 PM)
It is not MicroSDHC. Mine is 8gb class 10 SDHC sandisk memory card.
I got it for around RM180-195 if i m not wrong.  rolleyes.gif
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coolness. do u root ur phone? if yes how does the apps speed when launching it from SD? noticed any different?
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(i_bony @ Jul 22 2010, 03:03 PM)
coolness. do u root ur phone? if yes how does the apps speed when launching it from SD? noticed any different?
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Bro, i hv not got my phone yet la. blush.gif
Btw, Desire cant support SDHC, can it?
I m just telling u the price of the card only, i use the card for my camera.

Like i said b4, i shld be getting my Desire soon la. drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Jul 22 2010, 12:49 AM)
the battery seems normal to me..  does it drain very fast to u?

Btw, the batteryspan could also be shorter if u overclock it up to 1.2ghz.. but u feel the breeze indeed xD. On normal ordinary custom roms with stock kernel, there is not quite difference unless that rom is highly optimized but nothing is up to that far good i guess yet. But custom rom does give u a better feeling of the rom compared to stock. It is also easy to backup application data and etc with the help of titanium backup. Flashing rom in the end would end up turning into a hobby and perhaps even dangerous, a habit  whistling.gif
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Yea I'm on LeeDroid and the battery drain seems to be fast. With HTC Sense Live Wallpaper and Wifi on (With Screen On and phone left idle), battery falls by 3% in just 8minutes. Not to mention if I use it for browsing, some apps or downloads from market, the battery drain will even be faster lol.
I've recently got this new habit of flashing ROMs several times (maybe 3-5 in a day), I know it's not good. Got to gradually stop it tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(benleong2008 @ Jul 22 2010, 03:11 PM)
Yea I'm on LeeDroid and the battery drain seems to be fast. With HTC Sense Live Wallpaper and Wifi on (With Screen On and phone left idle), battery falls by 3% in just 8minutes. Not to mention if I use it for browsing, some apps or downloads from market, the battery drain will even be faster lol.
I've recently got this new habit of flashing  ROMs several times (maybe 3-5 in a day), I know it's not good. Got to gradually stop it  tongue.gif
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i just flashed with 1.4c as well. and yes.. the battery life sucks big time.. i was surfing online for 30 mins and it drops like 20% lol... since u flash a lot of roms, do let us know which one better though.. haha..

btw, turning off the live wallpaper to normal ones might save u some battery life.
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QUOTE(lil twist @ Jul 22 2010, 02:41 PM)
hi desire users! notworthy.gif

i just have several questions to be answered before buying this phone... as i am know contemplating between iphone 4 and htc desire... sweat.gif

Q1: can desire install messengers like skype, YM, gtalk, etc?
Q2: can desire email apps be linked with my office email?
Q3: is the facebook on desire as handy as on iphone? sorry if this Q is a bit sensitive... notworthy.gif

i think thats all... i'll keep posting if i have more Q... smile.gif
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1. Yes, there are messenger like eBuddy, meebo or official ym. not sure msn got or not
2. Yes you can setup mail sync in Desire.
3. No idea, i do not use iphone app b4 tongue.gif maybe others can help u on this. But HTC got frenstream smile.gif
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QUOTE(sugebleach @ Jul 22 2010, 03:16 PM)
1. Yes, there are messenger like eBuddy, meebo or official ym. not sure msn got or not
2. Yes you can setup mail sync in Desire.
3. No idea, i do not use iphone app b4 tongue.gif maybe others can help u on this. But HTC got frenstream smile.gif
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speaking about emails.. anyone manage to enable html emails for 2003 exchange? can't find any ways to enable it.. sigh..
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(sugebleach @ Jul 22 2010, 03:16 PM)
1. Yes, there are messenger like eBuddy, meebo or official ym. not sure msn got or not
2. Yes you can setup mail sync in Desire.
3. No idea, i do not use iphone app b4 tongue.gif maybe others can help u on this. But HTC got frenstream smile.gif
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AFAIK, there is no official MSN in Desire but i am currently using MSN Talk, a program found in the market. Very good.
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jul 22 2010, 02:25 PM)
Just trying to make things clear. I went through some post in XDA, and saw one in regards to flashing back to original ROM for warranty. This is the steps given :

The Guide:

  1. Make sure your goldcard is in your phone (If Required-if your phone is branded)
  2. Turn your Desire on
  3. Connect it to a Windows PC
  4. Run the HTC RUU
  5. Let it run
  6. & YOUR DONE!
Question, the title says  "How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock" but according to the steps there, its basically just run the Original RUU. So, by flashing back to the Original RUU, i will automatically "unroot" it back?
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Yup, thats y u need the correct stock ROM. The one I downloaded works fine for me, once u unroot u'll get back ur original/default just like when u 1st bought it.
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:38 PM

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I was reading through some posts and the FAQ. I read that if I buy ori phone it will not have Market but instead SlideMe or something like that. Is this true?

I don't wish to root my hp bcoz I'm a super noob in these tech stuff and afraid of doing anything wrong..sad.gif
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(menghua84 @ Jul 22 2010, 12:40 PM)
i used unrevoked method to root and my phone is working as normal though. I tried using rom manager to flash before but the phone just restart and go into recovery. Not sure this is normal or not. so until today i flash roms in recovery. simple as it is, i just select the zip file i want to flash and just flash it.  laugh.gif

pluginbaby.. 1.4c is out.. weird part is i never had any issues with the usb connect to pc though.. yaya the space in ext3 reduced when i installed apps.. so i just assume that apps are installed in sd card then..  sweat.gif
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if you rooted using unrevoked, dont use rom manager to flash any rom. just follow this guide:


Flashing Steps:
1. Copy the rom you have downloaded from XDA-Developers into your SD card
2. Turn off your phone and turn it back on while holding 'volume down' button
3. In HBOOT menu, select Recovery (volume up and down button is to navigate, power button is to select)
4. Then your phone will be in recovery mode, then select flash from sdcard and choose the rom you want to flash.
5. Once completed, reboot it and you are done!!

This post has been edited by maliqu3: Jul 22 2010, 03:47 PM
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post Jul 22 2010, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(sugebleach @ Jul 22 2010, 03:16 PM)
1. Yes, there are messenger like eBuddy, meebo or official ym. not sure msn got or not
2. Yes you can setup mail sync in Desire.
3. No idea, i do not use iphone app b4 tongue.gif maybe others can help u on this. But HTC got frenstream smile.gif
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thanks mate! coz my concern is more on the messenger and online... as i am working everywhere in malaysia... tongue.gif

again, thank you so much for your assistance.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(valentinonkk @ Jul 22 2010, 03:07 PM)
Bro, i hv not got my phone yet la.  blush.gif
Btw, Desire cant support SDHC, can it?
I m just telling u the price of the card only, i use the card for my camera.

Like i said b4, i shld be getting my Desire soon la.  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Desire is using MicroSD card not normal size SD or SDHC card. IIRC, the written spec of Desire is micro SD 2.0 supported, I think it means microSDHC, correct me if i m wrong.

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QUOTE(nick67 @ Jul 22 2010, 03:38 PM)
I was reading through some posts and the FAQ. I read that if I buy ori phone it will not have Market but instead SlideMe or something like that. Is this true?
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i bought mine from Maxis... has Market... others i not sure... SlideMe is a market alternative? 0___o

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