Something to read in your free time about the art of flash ---> Strobist: Learn How to Light

Canon Flash List:



Nikon Flash List:



Sony Flash List:


Olympus Flash List:




Third Party Flash:



More Info On Third Party Flashes:



PS: If you have extra information that I've missed out. Please do pm me and I will make the necessary changes. Cheers.

This post has been edited by Mikeshashimi: Oct 9 2010, 11:27 PM

you also can include the third party flash model in first post . to make it more informative.

perhaps, you can invite others to share their thoughts and experience with their flash so you would have reviews from real time users.
then perhaps share pictures shot?

well we had flash diffuser discussion http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=369828

strangely no topic about flash.

anyway my latest avatar was done using flash.

Canon EOS 550D with phottix trigger, flash is placed on the right side of the subject, with DIY snoot + tissue inside to diffuse the light. can't remember the flash power (i use 430EX II, manual).

The camera setting is at f/8 | 1/200 | ISO200 (but i PP the photo by brightening it)

i think its high time for a flash topic. lol. because some people have alot of questions with regards to flash in general and not just with regards to specific brands.

i'm in support of this thread. can consolidate all flash related stuff........... but since i'm not moderator of this section, we'll wait for them big boys to decide.

btw you missed out Sigma and Vivitar. among many other brands out there.

you could also list triggers, Phottix, Canon ST-E2 for Canon cameras, Pocket Wizards, Radio Popper. blbalbala..............

my favourite resource for understanding flash / science of light is at http://strobist.blogspot.com/ ......... though I should be making a habit of visiting it more often.

i dont really know much thats why i missed out on other 3rd party flashes... it would be good if someone could provide a comprehensive list.

and thanks for your support... really appreciate it...

shud includes Metz flash as well under 3rd party list...

but flash got a lot more, you're listing those hotshoe flash only. we haven't gone into STUDIO flash.

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Added on June 3, 2010, 1:46 amouhh yeah, how could i miss that on. i nearly bought one of the 58. lovely flash.... or was it the 48.

Metz - http://www.metz.de/en/photo-electronics/me...itz-models.html

Sunpak - http://www.sunpak.jp/english/

Vivitar - http://www.vivitar.com/

Sigma - http://www.sigmaphoto.com/shop/flashes

Nissin - http://www.nissindigital.com/top.html

Minolta - http://ca.konicaminolta.com/products/consu...cc_flashes.html (3rd party yet not 3rd party la this brand.......... come to think of it Sigma too, cos they have their SLR range)

one contribution to creative flash photography

thanks for the info, if others have more do share. and also share your flash photography
im sure most of us would like to know flash in food photography

Yeah , I also need to learn more about strobist and how to take a perfect wireless photography .

Maybe we could make our own Strobist TT one day ?

maybe it would be a good idea. but it would require wide space.

Looks cold. any pp?

i think the 'cold' look actually works.

choice of color reflects the feel of temperature. that's why food we go for warmer color / WB.

Anyone here mind to give some ideas?

Should i get Nikon Speedlight SB600 or SB900 for my D90..
not sure which to get..price oso kinda big diff yeah 1 SB900 = 2SB600 xD

go ahead

just change the WB

come let's TT for strobist

food photo

SB900 can become commander and slave
SB900 can recycle time is way faster than SB600
SB900 has never Interface

the downside is the size. very bulky

Hmm, i heard from one of my sifu saying that you should buy the best flash with your money ability. If you have the budget, just go for the better one. Not sure whether what he said is true or what. My first flash is Nissin Di622, have no budget to go for 580ex2 so just stay with nissin first.

Good to find a thread like this although there's a separate thread on strobist, this one is more general.

anyway, i got a few CLS shots, need some C&C. just started trying, so still beginner on how to setup, position the flash and everything.

Are these 3 pictures taken using boucned flash ?

This post has been edited by fabianz03: Jun 3 2010, 03:14 PM

they're taken using Nikon's CLS, using D80 built-in flash as commander mode, controlling 1 SB-600 fired from the ground level towards the subject and 1 Nissin di466 with lambency from the top, like a giant spotlight

I see, cool...

Since there's a thread about flash, don't mind if I ask something.
Can I place my external flash just beside the camera if I wanna use slave mode ?

you wanna fire your flash wirelessly? you'll need a D80/90 at least cause it has commander mode. or else, you have to get a 3rd party wireless flash trigger.

Picture 2 looks too white for me. But 1 and 3 is awesome! yea, many china trigger can do it too.

thanks, lol i thought the 1st one is too bright/white, especially at the bottom part of the plate cause the flash is directed there.

i like your 3rd picture. picture 1 and 2 does not bring out the appeal of the food... just my noobie comment.

and what is 'slave' actually?

somehow mean the 2nd flash (or trigger wirelessly in term of alpha)

it works as a trigger la? owh ok ok.. got it.

bleh, i prefer buy what you need, not what you can afford.

Di622 ok what. you can buy a few of them and optically trigger.

why do you need 580EX II when 430EX II can do the job?

i agree here. if a cheaper albeit weaker flash suffices, why spend alot more for something which u dont necessarily need?
save the extra cash and when u NEED something else, go get it tiger.

1st your composition needs working

2nd shooting food, you can point the flash to the behind the food, towards the sides perhaps. let it bounce to create highlights.

studio shoot food and restaurant shoot food uses same concept but at restaurant is a lot more challenging, i don't use flash........... even till today. cos flash annoy the crap out of people in restaurant, and draw too much attention.

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Added on June 3, 2010, 4:20 pmyou Sony user, so you would be aware how bright can the F42 light the area at full power.

same goes to Nikon SB600 and Canon 430EX II.

so what do u use for lighting? the internal flash itself or from the lights in the restaurant itself?

those were taken at home, so nobody to annoy don't worry hehehe.

point the flash towards the sides? as in point it away from the food ah?

i use natural and man-made lights.

should've come to my talk that day, i covered a bit.

i know i will get annoyed if a bunch of people firing their flash away in restaurant, get more flash bang than playing COD : MW2. so since i don't like it, i don't do to others.

you know la if you order 3 dishes, easily you take at least 5 shots for the food. since use flash, 1st one to see the out come, the rest to tune.



yes, point it away from the food.



this is a shot that's not PPed at all, other than resize and watermark.

I used 2 flash for this (actually 1 is enough la), just 1 on each side pointing upwards to white ceiling.

as you can the shot lacks highlights cos the lights come from the top.

ooh ok, will try pointing upwards/sideways then thanks . can't do it in restaurant though, now i know why you don't use flash at restaurants.

Was that photo taken in a studio or restaurant? Is the white background the table or white backdrop?

at his home

Bounce flash test using DIY method.
I folded a piece a paper to bounce the flash off.

CnC pls... newbie in bounce flash here

referring to Goldfries's pic. haha... but good that u answered too so i wouldnt have to ask again.

from a newbie view here, i din't see the effect of flash in that pic.

because his diffusing is great so u don't see its look like flash was used.
u want like pns style flash ah ?

Hmm, actually the room was quite dark.
So how to improve the shot ?

I love reading strobist.com but I still don't get it where to place the flash to get better composition

Well here's some wireless photography that I like


This post has been edited by fas29: Jun 3 2010, 06:05 PM

flash photography is not just about where to place la.

it's about how to manipulate the light, eg diffuser, snoot, gabo, umbrella, softbox.

and distance, intensity, and where to use a light, where to use reflector.

then how about what color reflector to use? what gel to use? blablablbalbalab...........

Yeah , the picture look like normal bounce flash , nothing interested from it

You should try make it like this

a question sifus..

how do you define flash photography?

a shot taken using flash?

like that then everyone also doing flash photography what.

even our phones have flash.

i would say photography that involves the science of manipulating flash (strobe lights)

yeah. i feel that too. flash photography is about how the photographer manipulates light from the flash as well as his surroundings to create an image that would not have been achievable without such manipulation. my noob interpretation.

Wow use umbrella...
thx anyway

Backlighting

how should we 'hide' the flash if we place it behind our subject?

well normally the light from the flash should pretty much "hide" the flash itself already.




Softbox from Right, White card on the left.

i think to get a nice flash photo you should get the flash off camera!
if you mount on your camera, use it as bounce, home made diffuser etc...everyone knows that.

The key point is to get the flash off camera. the light from it will create a more 3D effect. has highlights and shadows. that it what makes a picture pop

nice thread..


but y dun have china brand de?

eg: yong nuo brand?

interesting thread... good job mike

of coz, apart from shooting products and macros, the shadows created from keylights can give a strong impact in portrait shots


*photo uneditted apart from the standard watermark & resize*

This post has been edited by lwliam: Jun 3 2010, 09:13 PM

nice shot! btw...this is shot using flash or studio lighting?

Nice shot, lwliam! This is a good thread. if only we all can share out setups and pictures here, then we can help every1 to improve! Makes me so eager to try out more wireless flash after seeing some pics here!


Hey, di466 can use as a slave to nikon's commander mode? Any probs with it? I currently have one sb600, might wanna look into purchasing cheaper flashes around for more CLS...

This post has been edited by superb88: Jun 3 2010, 11:25 PM

@lwliam: thanks, nice use of flash btw, and nice model.

busyman: im just a noobie so i dont know ALL the flash brand particularly 3rd party flashs.

@superb88: thats lwliam's photo la not zstan.

GREAT shot u got there!

is that folded white A4 paper used to reflect the flash?

oh pai sieh pai sieh! Sry ya, I blur blur! Will edit my post right away!

This post has been edited by superb88: Jun 3 2010, 11:26 PM

i not so pro la paiseh.

LOL ! Not mine la , took it from the internet , need to learn more

well you should at least credit the source

I think this is a good website though , http://www.diyphotography.net/

yup, i read the manual and it says can use wirelessly, so i tried and it worked still need more practice though.

models




the messy hair was intended

i like the use of flash in the first pic and also the grey really works.

read how i did it http://www.vincentpang.ws/blog/post/Setup-for-Fruits.aspx

lol! i seriously thought it was urs!

thanks

superb photo and use of flash bro... very nice and thanks for the setup.

This is what I always want to do but don't knwo

hehe now u all can try out go the fish

How many tries until u got the right shot?

my try on flash...

guys...i owned a a230...

my flash got a wireless function (optically trigger)
so, i set my a230 built in flash to 'wireless' and optically trigger my flashgun...

both flash (built in and flashgun) light up at the same time...

now my question is, which light appear in my photo? the built-in flash (that trigger my flashgun) or from the flashgun?

need some help here...

SHE'S GORGEOUS! is that a real tattoo?

i am no expert on sony flash.
but it should be the pop up flash is used to trigger the flashgun and should not light your subject
but if you are near enough, then it'll still cast a bit of light on it

you can test if out also.
put your flash on the side of the subject. fire the flash and see it there light from 1 side and shadow on the other?
if the light is from front then it's lighted by both

Nice photo Vincent Phang
U use one flash only for the 2nd picture?

& Nice photo too hung6022!!!
Jz one flash from the bak? & how did u light up the front face? Any studio light involved here?

This post has been edited by superb88: Jun 5 2010, 10:41 AM

TS, where is nikon sb800?

Just got my Di622 !
Super satisfied with it...

check in ur bag. lol.

yea, got mine few days ago. The 622 really great with that price! But what not good is, i need to fork out money to buy sanyo eneloop next month
time to pok kai again.

Ya lo... I just bought Energizer 200mAh batteries with charger...
When I open the charger it says 2000mAh needs 9hrs. to be fully charged... WTF!!

mine using di622 since December last year.

Di466 for M43 here..

u guyz really inspiring...must try sth...