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post Jun 3 2010, 01:34 AM

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well we had flash diffuser discussion http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=369828

strangely no topic about flash. biggrin.gif

anyway my latest avatar was done using flash.

Canon EOS 550D with phottix trigger, flash is placed on the right side of the subject, with DIY snoot + tissue inside to diffuse the light. can't remember the flash power (i use 430EX II, manual).

The camera setting is at f/8 | 1/200 | ISO200 (but i PP the photo by brightening it)
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post Jun 3 2010, 01:41 AM

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i'm in support of this thread. biggrin.gif can consolidate all flash related stuff........... but since i'm not moderator of this section, we'll wait for them big boys to decide.

btw you missed out Sigma and Vivitar. tongue.gif among many other brands out there.

you could also list triggers, Phottix, Canon ST-E2 for Canon cameras, Pocket Wizards, Radio Popper. blbalbala..............

my favourite resource for understanding flash / science of light is at http://strobist.blogspot.com/ ......... though I should be making a habit of visiting it more often. tongue.gif
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post Jun 3 2010, 01:45 AM

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but flash got a lot more, you're listing those hotshoe flash only. biggrin.gif we haven't gone into STUDIO flash.


Added on June 3, 2010, 1:46 am
QUOTE(bad melatonin @ Jun 3 2010, 01:45 AM)
shud includes Metz flash as well under 3rd party list...
ouhh yeah, how could i miss that on. biggrin.gif i nearly bought one of the 58. lovely flash.... or was it the 48.

Metz - http://www.metz.de/en/photo-electronics/me...itz-models.html

Sunpak - http://www.sunpak.jp/english/

Vivitar - http://www.vivitar.com/

Sigma - http://www.sigmaphoto.com/shop/flashes

Nissin - http://www.nissindigital.com/top.html

Minolta - http://ca.konicaminolta.com/products/consu...cc_flashes.html (3rd party yet not 3rd party la this brand.......... come to think of it Sigma too, cos they have their SLR range)
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post Jun 3 2010, 02:44 PM

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choice of color reflects the feel of temperature. that's why food we go for warmer color / WB.
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post Jun 3 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(ginolo @ Jun 3 2010, 03:11 PM)
Hmm, i heard from one of my sifu saying that you should buy the best flash with your money ability. If you have the budget, just go for the better one. Not sure whether what he said is true or what. My first flash is Nissin Di622, have no budget to go for 580ex2 so just stay with nissin first.
bleh, i prefer buy what you need, not what you can afford.

Di622 ok what. you can buy a few of them and optically trigger.

why do you need 580EX II when 430EX II can do the job?
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post Jun 3 2010, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Jun 3 2010, 03:12 PM)
Good to find a thread like this biggrin.gif although there's a separate thread on strobist, this one is more general.
1st your composition needs working

2nd shooting food, you can point the flash to the behind the food, towards the sides perhaps. let it bounce to create highlights.

studio shoot food and restaurant shoot food uses same concept but at restaurant is a lot more challenging, i don't use flash........... even till today. cos flash annoy the crap out of people in restaurant, and draw too much attention. biggrin.gif


Added on June 3, 2010, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jun 3 2010, 04:19 PM)
i agree here. if a cheaper albeit weaker flash suffices, why spend alot more for something which u dont necessarily need?
save the extra cash and when u NEED something else, go get it tiger.  laugh.gif
you Sony user, so you would be aware how bright can the F42 light the area at full power. biggrin.gif

same goes to Nikon SB600 and Canon 430EX II.

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post Jun 3 2010, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jun 3 2010, 04:21 PM)
so what do u use for lighting? the internal flash itself or from the lights in the restaurant itself?
i use natural and man-made lights. biggrin.gif

should've come to my talk that day, i covered a bit.

i know i will get annoyed if a bunch of people firing their flash away in restaurant, get more flash bang than playing COD : MW2. so since i don't like it, i don't do to others.

you know la if you order 3 dishes, easily you take at least 5 shots for the food. since use flash, 1st one to see the out come, the rest to tune.

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QUOTE(kenji_britney @ Jun 3 2010, 04:22 PM)
those were taken at home, so nobody to annoy don't worry hehehe.

point the flash towards the sides? as in point it away from the food ah?
yes, point it away from the food.

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this is a shot that's not PPed at all, other than resize and watermark.

I used 2 flash for this (actually 1 is enough la), just 1 on each side pointing upwards to white ceiling.

as you can the shot lacks highlights cos the lights come from the top.
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post Jun 3 2010, 06:06 PM

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flash photography is not just about where to place la.

it's about how to manipulate the light, eg diffuser, snoot, gabo, umbrella, softbox.

and distance, intensity, and where to use a light, where to use reflector.

then how about what color reflector to use? what gel to use? blablablbalbalab...........
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post Jun 3 2010, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 3 2010, 06:14 PM)
a question sifus..

how do you define flash photography?

a shot taken using flash? hmm.gif
like that then everyone also doing flash photography what. biggrin.gif

even our phones have flash.

i would say photography that involves the science of manipulating flash (strobe lights)
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post Jun 7 2010, 11:24 PM

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my sub 10 minute flash photography session. biggrin.gif anyone wanna guess the setup? very simple wan.
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post Jun 8 2010, 12:20 AM

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good try. correct...... for 1 or few of it, but i donno which one. tongue.gif

basically i use 1x 430EX no diffusion, point towards ceiling and another white wall.

those photos that show LCD are more tricky, so i pointed the flash directly to the ceiling and did a few shots, changing angle until i get the LCD details.
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post Jun 9 2010, 01:57 AM

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not sure about thr YN. Di622 on the other hand is already reputable.
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post Jun 11 2010, 08:59 AM

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careful of the STATED compatibility.

I also saw the Phottix Tetra site saying it compatible with my Sigma DG ST 500 but when I tested - it doesn't work.
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post Jun 25 2010, 09:44 AM

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one of my favorite photos. biggrin.gif

my supper actually but by the time i finish taking it, already somewhat soggy.

Canon EOS 550D | EF 50mm f1.4 | 430EX II (can't remember power) on stand, shoot through umbrella.

post-processed to enhance the color of noodle (I'm sure you guys know maggi noodle not so power yellow wan la.)

the background is actually a chair.
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post Jun 26 2010, 09:59 PM

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Digicolor - located as Mutiara Komplex, Jalan Ipoh.

next time we go Pizza Hut there TT, then can go kacau the shop owner give us discount buy goods also. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 7 2010, 12:37 PM

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demb flip-it is good. still find it better than stofen and maggi cup. you must know also that they modify lights differently.
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post Jul 24 2010, 01:35 AM

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no specific rules man, sometimes bounce on ceiling also not good idea, especially when it cast shadows under their eyes, nose and whatever.

it's really subjected to condition.
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post Sep 19 2010, 03:43 AM

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biggrin.gif tadaaaaaa.

dual 430EX II triggered by 580EX II, mounted on a 350D.


Added on September 19, 2010, 3:45 amoh i must add - I've personally tested 7D / 60D / ST-E2 and 580EX II as master.

1. 7D's trigger options are fantastic, just like the 580EX II i would say. I didn't study in intricate detail but you get to set power ration and such. lovely.

2. 60D's trigger on the other hand, is like the ST-E2. Can't set power ratio to the groups (like say 1/64 for A, 1/16 for B) but you can adjust the power by going A:B with ratios like 8:1 to 1:1 to 1:8.

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post Sep 19 2010, 03:55 AM

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er, it's like that wan la. smile.gif the 580EX is the trigger and the 430EX II are slaves that get the signal to fire together.

in this case, the 580EX master mode is set to ON so it contributes along with the rest of the 2 for the exposure.


Added on September 19, 2010, 4:07 amoh btw, that shot I can't remember whether I set MASTER to ON or OFF but i think it's ON.

even if it was OFF, you'll see the master flash firing anyway but it'll be of a very weak light.
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post Sep 20 2010, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(ivan5805 @ Sep 19 2010, 12:11 PM)
i'm using toki 11-16 in my d90 with sb600 when i take a shoot the bottom area will be black!!
photo taked at outdoor without ceiling to bounce what to do to make the photo look perfect??
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bottom black, look at your shutter speed for that photo. smile.gif

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