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lwliam
post May 31 2010, 08:07 PM

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u took the long way around it, but techically, yes, its correct.. LOLOL laugh.gif
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post May 31 2010, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 31 2010, 08:07 PM)
u took the long way around it, but techically, yes, its correct.. LOLOL laugh.gif
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Hahahaha.. finally correct! cause i din use fullframe so to suddenly ask me imagine how a focal length look like in fullframe i can hardly Imagine it... so i need to relate back with the crop factor 1.5x on my A700/a100 which im used to. btw wliam. Louise oredi pass me ur "angpow" will give it to u next time we met. Really appreciate your help yesterday. No more Free photoshooting from me after this round hehe.
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post May 31 2010, 08:46 PM

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What are the street prices of Tamron SP90 F2.8 Macro (VC or/and non VC) type & the Tokina 11-16 F2.8 ? maybe can put in the price list on 1st page, pls ?

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post May 31 2010, 08:57 PM

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Tokina 1116 F2.8 uncle chin selling rm 2450 d last time i call him. My friend might able to help me find one selling for rm 2200 in JB .. hoping to hear from him soon.
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post May 31 2010, 09:04 PM

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hi guys where to find cheap UWAs? like the Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6? or any other UWAs in the 1500-1900 category?

Oh btw, hi clivengu? how ya been last time we met was at the Marie Digby concert hehehe

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ May 31 2010, 08:46 PM)
What are the street prices of Tamron SP90 F2.8 Macro (VC or/and non VC) type & the Tokina 11-16 F2.8 ? maybe can put in the price list on 1st page, pls ?
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he he Mo0 punya penyakit spreading to abang banzai oredi.. ha ha ha..
i dont know the current prices btw, saja mau komen2

QUOTE(nimrod323 @ May 31 2010, 09:04 PM)
hi guys where to find cheap UWAs? like the Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6? or any other UWAs in the 1500-1900 category?

Oh btw, hi clivengu? how ya been last time we met was at the Marie Digby concert hehehe
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u mean price ange RM1.5k-1.9k kah?
uhm.. fisheye, the samyang 8mm is around RM1.1k oni.. but not UWA lah ho3
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post May 31 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ May 31 2010, 09:04 PM)
hi guys where to find cheap UWAs? like the Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6? or any other UWAs in the 1500-1900 category?

Oh btw, hi clivengu? how ya been last time we met was at the Marie Digby concert hehehe
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WOW.. Tats very very very long ago.. im great.. although I have already forgotten how u look like tongue.gif
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post May 31 2010, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ May 31 2010, 09:17 PM)
WOW.. Tats very very very long ago.. im great.. although I have already forgotten how u look like  tongue.gif
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haha cant say the same for you, can see you in flickr lol
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post May 31 2010, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 31 2010, 08:07 PM)
u took the long way around it, but techically, yes, its correct.. LOLOL laugh.gif
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ok...so,

50mm, a700 = 75mm, a900?
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post May 31 2010, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 31 2010, 10:00 PM)
ok...so,

50mm, a700 = 75mm, a900?
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SAL 50 F1.4 on A700 is 75mm while on A900 is 50mm
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post May 31 2010, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 31 2010, 10:00 PM)
ok...so,

50mm, a700 = 75mm, a900?
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Do you mean crop factor?

For A850/A900 .... if you use 50mm then the focal length is 50mm because full-frame does not have crop field

For the rest will add another 50% more from the original focal length, just like when use 50mm the focal length will be 50mm x 150% = 75mm

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thats why im confused with lwliam's statement here

QUOTE(lwliam @ May 31 2010, 07:30 PM)
yes, meaning if u use 50mm on A700, you will actually need to use a 75mm on an A900 to get the same angle of view.

and due to the change in focal length, the DoF will be different. this is one of the difference between APS-C and FF, which will cause a shallower DoF.
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post May 31 2010, 10:33 PM

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here, hope this will make you understand more..


Added on May 31, 2010, 10:37 pmor this one, its less technical. but the narrator is more 'unprofessional'

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post May 31 2010, 10:41 PM

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yo guys, planning to let go my SAL 75-300, how much can i sell it?

wanna get a SAL55-200, worth it?
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post May 31 2010, 10:48 PM

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post May 31 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ May 31 2010, 08:02 PM)
Wow. good explaination.. but my head still spinning... trying to make sense of the the figures. cause i was using A700 as a comparison.. so now i hv to think like this ... A700----> fullframe----> final image in 4/3 olympus...

Take example 50mm Lens on A700 (i wan this Angle of view in end photos), in A900 i will need a 50mmx 1.5 = 75mm lens to produce that kind of angle. And for Olympus system to have a photo of angle like 50mm on A700 = 75mm/2 = 37.5mm Olympus lens on olympus body.

Sorry im making it more complicated.....i hope this round im right...

To Summarize... what ever focal length shown in the olympus website,when use with olympus system, will be exactly the same angle of view of a Non-olympus lens on any fullframe body.
http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/products/dslr/lenses/
    *     ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50mm F2.0 Macro on E-3, will have same ANGLE OF VIEW with a Sony 50mmF1.4 on A900? (CORRECT or WRONG?)
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make it simple~

on a900 + 50mm = 50mm
on a700 + 50mm (50mm multiply with 1.5x crop factor) = 75mm
so if on E-3 + 50mm (50mm multiply with 2.0X crop factor) = 100mm


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post May 31 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ May 31 2010, 08:02 PM)
Wow. good explaination.. but my head still spinning... trying to make sense of the the figures. cause i was using A700 as a comparison.. so now i hv to think like this ... A700----> fullframe----> final image in 4/3 olympus...

Take example 50mm Lens on A700 (i wan this Angle of view in end photos), in A900 i will need a 50mmx 1.5 = 75mm lens to produce that kind of angle. And for Olympus system to have a photo of angle like 50mm on A700 = 75mm/2 = 37.5mm Olympus lens on olympus body.

Sorry im making it more complicated.....i hope this round im right...

To Summarize... what ever focal length shown in the olympus website,when use with olympus system, will be exactly the same angle of view of a Non-olympus lens on any fullframe body.
http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/products/dslr/lenses/
    *    ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50mm F2.0 Macro on E-3, will have same ANGLE OF VIEW with a Sony 50mmF1.4 on A900? (CORRECT or WRONG?)
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you got it correct the 1st round edi ma, why u add the asterisk pulak? now its wrong d... hahahha... it is Olympus' flagship model, but the E3 is not a full frame camera.
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post May 31 2010, 11:17 PM

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post May 31 2010, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(clivengu @ May 31 2010, 08:02 PM)
Wow. good explaination.. but my head still spinning... trying to make sense of the the figures. cause i was using A700 as a comparison.. so now i hv to think like this ... A700----> fullframe----> final image in 4/3 olympus...

Take example 50mm Lens on A700 (i wan this Angle of view in end photos), in A900 i will need a 50mmx 1.5 = 75mm lens to produce that kind of angle. And for Olympus system to have a photo of angle like 50mm on A700 = 75mm/2 = 37.5mm Olympus lens on olympus body.

Sorry im making it more complicated.....i hope this round im right...

To Summarize... what ever focal length shown in the olympus website,when use with olympus system, will be exactly the same angle of view of a Non-olympus lens on any fullframe body.
http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/products/dslr/lenses/
    *    ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50mm F2.0 Macro on E-3, will have same ANGLE OF VIEW with a Sony 50mmF1.4 on A900? (CORRECT or WRONG?)
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how come i need 75mm on a900 to achieve 50mm when 50mm is already with regards to a fullframe.

shouldnt it be the other way around? say when i need a 50mm angle on the a700 with a 50mm lens its actually 75mm rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post May 31 2010, 11:28 PM

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lol mike, if you are not familiar with that conversion, then i make it the other way around...

u put a 90mm lens on A900 (imagine the SP90).. then to get the (keyword:)same field of view as that, you would need a 60mm on an A700... another words, you will see MORE of the view on a fullframe as compared to an APS-C.

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red is FF, green is APS-C

i have no idea how to make this any more simpler.

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