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clivengu
post May 25 2010, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:31 PM)
pic spam for the day !

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btw, the Alpha T-shirt design already change...please check..thanks !
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AHh ***** from Shrek~! biggrin.gif
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post May 25 2010, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:34 PM)
?? I din watch shrek..so i dunno bout the character lolz smile.gif
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Woahhahaha the word "P u S s Y " got Sensored~??? basically is a cat like this..same colour... cool caracther.... become fat in the latest episode.
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post May 25 2010, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 25 2010, 10:38 PM)
ier & vikingw2k : Chill la wei. What's with all the sarcasm? XD
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Both watch too much "HOUSE" series
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post May 25 2010, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:40 PM)
oh..haha...lolz..it is a censored word la..

btw, no comments on my shot? lolz...
same like u la zstan..i need to improve so that ppl will notice my pics...
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Not much I can comment.. a very basic shot... not much story behind the photos.. what i will like to comment is about ur Watermark... it will spoil even the best photos taken.. n why is it being cropped.... Try make it a little simpler i think will help.
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post May 25 2010, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ May 25 2010, 10:44 PM)
the photo is not cropped...
or are u talking bout the watermark?
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 25 2010, 10:45 PM)
"a very basic shot" is also a comment ma. laugh.gif

hmmm..so i should make my water mark more simpler?

being cropped?u mean my pictures? didn't crop lea. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ May 25 2010, 10:46 PM)
my watermark cropped? i dun understand. rclxub.gif
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Ahahha.. sorry got a bit confused here.. i am comment on D3rkholeang3l cat shot... the watermark seems a bit cropped at the side. Zstann don panic not toking bout u sweat.gif
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post May 25 2010, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 25 2010, 11:14 PM)
i only got one shot of this.. then the cat gone with the wind.. paiseh

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I think this shot is quite good.. I will prefer to crop it tighter..so can see d detail of its eyes n fur and mayb just get rid of the colour distraction at the backround. then the overall colour wiill very nice.. thumbup.gif
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post May 25 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(vikingw2k @ May 25 2010, 11:23 PM)
d4rkholeang3l

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Nice shot.. I notice there is another black kitten behind??
all d cats photos are coming out~~ haha there is once all doggies... too bad im not really fan of kitty and i don shoot the meow..
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post May 31 2010, 05:09 PM

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Wan to ask a question unrelated to Alpha system... My sister ask me recommend her a new lens for her Olympus EP-1 with olympus adapter, but I don really know the system.. I checkout their website for the available lens and i was quite confuse at the way they put the focal length.. Example:

ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50mm F2.0 Macro
100mm (35mm camera equivalent)

or

ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-35mm F2.0 SWD
28-70mm
(35mm camera equivalent)


As far as I know, Olympus din release fullframe camera. Looking at the 2 example above.. I should actually b looking at the 100mm + 28-70mm (35mm Camera equivalent) correct? im a bit confused by the number. their range is very unusual to standard brand. she was looking for an olympus lens that is good for potrait... mayb like a 50mm F.14 on A700.


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post May 31 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 31 2010, 05:15 PM)
clive, olympus is using the four thirds sensor, which is a 2x crop sensor. so effectively, the 50mm on apsc sensor you're looking for, would be about approx. 38mm on four third lenses.
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apsc = not same with four third system? rclxub.gif getting more confused..
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post May 31 2010, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 31 2010, 05:23 PM)
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here hope it helps.
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Wow.. Thanks.. tat explain really quite a lot. I really din know there r difference between these sensors... all i thought is apsc n fullframe..sensor n they apply for all brands. Now, I really donno how to related the focal length of what i hv with A700 system with the olympus 4 third system...damn.. im just so bad with technical number things.

QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 31 2010, 05:35 PM)
clivengu : ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-35mm F2.0 SWD! Damn steam. Tried on friend's E3.
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Mind telling me 14-35mm F2.0 = 14-35mm on A700?

QUOTE(soket @ May 31 2010, 06:00 PM)
NVIDIA bringing 3D images to Sony's Alpha camera lineup o.O

GeForce a480 GTX ????
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/nvidia-...-camera-lineup/
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Need a glass to view the photos in 3d? Eventhough im doing 3D visuals, but Im not really a fans of 3D movies or so (with 3d glasses).. I think they r baddd.. especially in cinema one...saw the Sony 3D TV.. is a lot better but still doesnt fancy it.. rather watching it conventional way whistling.gif
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post May 31 2010, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ May 31 2010, 06:58 PM)
clivengu : If 14-35mm F2.0 can be mounted on a700, it will be 21-52.5 f2. But Olympus's crop factor is 2x so it will be 28-70 f2.0 (:
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Hm.. okey.. wan give another example. correct me if im wrong.

28-70mm(the zuiko lens) on Olympus E3/ Ep-1 =same as= 28-70mm on A700... or similar

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post May 31 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 31 2010, 07:22 PM)
put it this way, all those numbers (eg.50mm) written on the lens, those are referring to the angle of view on a full frame.

then whichever sensor size you put that lens on (assuming all lenses can be attached to any body at all), multiply that mm with the crop factor (eg. 1.5x, 2.0x etc.) then you will get the equivalent view angle which you can get on a full frame sensor/film.

so in your example above, putting a lens which is written 28-70mm on the respective cameras, u will get equivalent of:

A900 = 28-70mm
A700 = 42-105mm (equivalent of a FF)
four thirds = 56-140mm (equivalent of a FF)
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Wow. good explaination.. but my head still spinning... trying to make sense of the the figures. cause i was using A700 as a comparison.. so now i hv to think like this ... A700----> fullframe----> final image in 4/3 olympus...

Take example 50mm Lens on A700 (i wan this Angle of view in end photos), in A900 i will need a 50mmx 1.5 = 75mm lens to produce that kind of angle. And for Olympus system to have a photo of angle like 50mm on A700 = 75mm/2 = 37.5mm Olympus lens on olympus body.

Sorry im making it more complicated.....i hope this round im right...

To Summarize... what ever focal length shown in the olympus website,when use with olympus system, will be exactly the same angle of view of a Non-olympus lens on any fullframe body.
http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/products/dslr/lenses/


* ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 50mm F2.0 Macro on E-3, will have same ANGLE OF VIEW with a Sony 50mmF1.4 on A900? (CORRECT or WRONG?)





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post May 31 2010, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 31 2010, 08:07 PM)
u took the long way around it, but techically, yes, its correct.. LOLOL laugh.gif
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Hahahaha.. finally correct! cause i din use fullframe so to suddenly ask me imagine how a focal length look like in fullframe i can hardly Imagine it... so i need to relate back with the crop factor 1.5x on my A700/a100 which im used to. btw wliam. Louise oredi pass me ur "angpow" will give it to u next time we met. Really appreciate your help yesterday. No more Free photoshooting from me after this round hehe.
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Tokina 1116 F2.8 uncle chin selling rm 2450 d last time i call him. My friend might able to help me find one selling for rm 2200 in JB .. hoping to hear from him soon.
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ May 31 2010, 09:04 PM)
hi guys where to find cheap UWAs? like the Sigma 10-20 F4-5.6? or any other UWAs in the 1500-1900 category?

Oh btw, hi clivengu? how ya been last time we met was at the Marie Digby concert hehehe
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WOW.. Tats very very very long ago.. im great.. although I have already forgotten how u look like tongue.gif
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Gouki @ May 31 2010, 11:08 PM)
make it simple~

on a900 + 50mm = 50mm
on a700 + 50mm (50mm multiply with 1.5x crop factor) = 75mm
so if on E-3 + 50mm (50mm multiply with 2.0X crop factor) = 100mm
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QUOTE(lwliam @ May 31 2010, 11:15 PM)
you got it correct the 1st round edi ma, why u add the asterisk pulak? now its wrong d... hahahha... it is Olympus' flagship model, but the E3 is not a full frame camera.
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Ahahah Wrong again.. No, i don mean E3 is fullframe and I don mean to put this Zuiko lens onto a fullframe camera like A900.

cause the spec of the zuiko lens r confusing..I thought they do not Name their lens focal length base on 35mm fullframe camera.. Instead they name it by following their own system (as if the e3 is their fullframe, n all their lenses when mount on their camera will be in FF angles)

er.. okey final observation.. make it simple, if i get this wrong again i think i will give up tongue.gif:

This lens:
* ZUIKO DIGITAL 25mm F2.8
50mm
(35mm camera equivalent)


This Zuiko lens mount on E-3 has the same ANGLE of view/Zoom as when a Sony 50mm lens mount on A900. Tell me this is Absolutely correct! sweat.gif

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post Jun 1 2010, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(eddybeh @ Jun 1 2010, 12:08 AM)
great to hear ieR is here.. too bad.. occupied tomolo...
1 thing i m curious after i see so many wedding pics by u all. y have to shoot the high heels? have any norms or culture or tradition behind it? tongue.gif
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Cause there is nothing else to shoot... hahahaha.. Gown, high heels, ear rings, rings, cosmetic tools, flowers, calender, teapot, games tool (like wasabi), those are OBJECTS details that can be shoot during wedding other than just the People... give the whole series of photos more variety.. Of course there is no rule behind this..can shoot an old chair, decorative items that can tell a bit of the story and the wedding setting... and bout the tradition behind it...i suppose is Photographer culture not really wedding tradition? the bride din say MUST shoot her shoes... if the shoes is dirty and ugly i rather dont shoot at all.. But if it is a JIMMY CHOO shoes.. im sure they r proud to let u capture in ur photos.


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QUOTE(ieR @ Jun 1 2010, 12:44 AM)
alright, hi guys, i am currently in KL (current got free pass from gf to go cybercafe hahaha)

first, i wan to share something, the biggest chair in malaysia is on FIRE.

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now, well, i am here in KL, and i will be in KLCC tomorrow, prob the whole day, and i plan to shoot KLCC at 7.00PM of the buildings till night, anyone care to join me? thx gouki for helping me to inform u guys smile.gif my number is zero one two 877 0 99 0. also can TT a while. smile.gif
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WOA.. I thought this Giant Chair was on fire sometime ago? NOW ON FIRE AGAIN???? someone definately wan it to go down.




QUOTE(eddybeh @ Jun 1 2010, 12:47 AM)
clivengu: oic..... now i get it... well, i never dare to take up the challenge of wedding photography... XP thx for the info...
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Thats why i did my first 2 wedding photography as practice without charging... or bcome the backup photographer.. that way the pressure & responsibility isnt THATTT big.. IS FREE they cant complaint much.. even if u screw up.. But of course u still need to do it with all your heart.. Since is free.. all you will wanna gain is your reputation, not the money... client recommend new clients brows.gif then u can start charging.. which is what i will do next... (BUTTT... my next wedding is my BEST FRIEND WEDDING n is impossible for me to charge.... hai..)


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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jun 1 2010, 12:55 AM)
Clive, some teaser shots for you wink.gif  brows.gif

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FUYOOHH you are fast!!! Nice nice! mine still in RAW format hahahaa... was now going through some photoshop tutorials first before i start playing around... Told the couple im going to give them like 2 weeks later tongue.gif

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jun 1 2010, 01:08 AM)
hahha, i have a camel vest, when i don that, it automatically tells ppl you mean business and ppl WILL give way to you... BUTTTT... looks damn ah beng laaa... T.T so i havent worn that for weddings for a long time d...
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HAhaha.. the Vest i got from Sony is way too Large for me..never use before.


QUOTE(ieR @ Jun 1 2010, 01:08 AM)
no need kejam, take it positively, take it as a challege to improve urself to handle bad situation and to overcome it!

oh, but there is one thing i really hate, SUPER HATE. is videographer, they
sometimes thinks they are the bigger, they pushes u, try to stay out their way. sometimes, they will scold u in the face if u step into their frame, making u 400times harder to shoot then the 'small problem of people walking into ur frame'...and their stupid video light will KILL ur photo.
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I always give priority to the videographer.. I think their job is to follow the couples every seconds and basically recording everything.. and photographer will be exploring around for composition.. from different angle ...super tiring...The video light can b tricky.. but sometime it does give u a bit of touch to your photo when u can overcome the problem. example like creating Highlight & shadows.. when u shooting the bride walking down the aisle from the back...accident happens.. is either bad or good sweat.gif
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ianho: The Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA with autofocus is sharp at F1.4. It has a different optical formula from the Carl Zeiss 85mm F1.4 ZE (Canon EOS mount) and Carl Zeiss 85mm F1.4 ZF (Nikon mount.)

Thats my gonna be my target lens of all times!! drool.gif


clivengu: For portraits, there is the Leica 25mm F1.4 for FourThirds. Something longer would be the Olympus ZD 50mm F2.0 Macro.

Leica!! lovely... but are they Autofocus.. and how to use it with Olympus EP1? need adapter from Leica?

MechaHerc: Yep, DOF on the FourThirds system is deeper.





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