iskandar is more like a white elephant project....dont think it will happen so soon....

Nasi Kandar Iskandar and Lego land? That's all?

Look, if this deal is go ahead. SG already have all the detail develop plan for all the extra land from the deal. Almost all their development Resources sure focus on those development (before Najib change his mind). SG face shortage of sand for reclaim land as other country not so willing to sell sand to SG. These land is like treasure for SG, I don't think SG will care much about Iskandar Project. MY is syiok sendiri.

Development in Iskandar is just a "promise". Will SG send their valuable consultant, engineer and banker there? I don't think so. No report on it so far, only investment was mentioned so at most SG just pump in some cash to make Najib happy.

Many countries have the land and money for developmnet but the key component is Human capital. As long as Iskandar is under the control of BN the progress will be very limited. Just pray this will no be another port klang black hole project.

I'm not sure why so many people are so hard up about Tg Pagar. Seriously, it's not like Malaysia can 'build on, develop" or practically do anything with Tg Pagar. At best, Malaysia can only hope to bar Singapore from the land... ie. playing the spoiler.

But that has absolutely no benefit for Malaysia. Some say that it's a bargaining chip or leverage for other things like the stoopid crooked bridge, water price or West Malaysians' CPF. But to be frank... Singapore's not going to even regard Tg Pagar as Malaysia's bargaining chip. They can take back Tg Pagar at any time. All they have to do is argue that their national sovereignty is being violated. No country in the world will back the 'unconditional ownership' of land in one sovereign country by a foreign country. One country cannot "own land" as a sovereign country in another sovereign country. They can of course do so as a "private sector owner or investor" but that means that Singapore can simply use compulsory acquisition laws to reacquire the land. So, for all intents and purposes, Malaysia really only "holds" the land at Tg Pagar at the leave of the Singapore govt. In my opinion, Singapore has been pretty polite about it... probably because they are simply treating it as a reserve land bank.

Therefore, Malaysia is getting a good deal for Tg Pagar. If I were Singapore, I'd simply forcibly take back the land as a reprisal for stopping the sale of sand... which Malaysia stopped for "sovereignty reasons" btw. Singapore is obviously saving up some political chips for later use by agreeing to that 60/40 development arrangement.

This post has been edited by seantang: May 27 2010, 11:26 AM

QFT.

One has to look back at what happened earlier this year in SG. A leading govt think tank (ESC) published a report on the economic situation, and warned the SG govt that it can no longer rely on trade with the US and EU alone, while China is unpredictable. The recommendation was to "mend fences" with its 2 closest neighbors MY and INA. MY for historical reasons, and to develop a MY-SG relationship equal to Shenzen-HK; while INA for its vast market. INA's SBY was in SG about 2 weeks ago, getting SG to jointly-develop parts of its economy. And now Najib and the KTM deal.

Seems like its all part of the plan.

sean, that land was belong to Melaya. The title belong to railroad company. When Malaysia form, it belong to Melaysia as it own KTM. When SG seperated, that land did not seperated to SG. So SG can't forcibly take back the land by law unless it is an act of war.

Yes MY can't valud add the land itself with just railway service but SG can turn it to Gold. MY should have exchange it with Air Space and water around Pasir Gudang. It can be useful if one day Malaysia finially have a capable gov to develop the port.

I say SG win by 1-4 because at this moment Malaysia don't have the supportive infrastucture and good gov service to support any development like Iskandar project. We can only build building and road. SG knew what it takes to be successful, they will not pour in any resources more that what they willing to lose until they see changes in the MY gov. Najib need the Iskandar to be successful and as a malaysian I like to see that too, but we are hoping too much for SG to do all the hard work for MY.

Time will tell, I wish I am wrong that SG will be much better while Iskandar only have limited SME activities that add little economy value yet produce unwelcome waste.

Have anybody had Magnum Gold Icecream? The commercial seems pretty expensive they make it look like a movie commercial.

Heard they have gold dust edible in it. Is it real gold or other metal made edible?

Title does not equal sovereignty. You may have title to the land, but that land is part of a sovereign country nonetheless. Simplest definition is laws. Does Singapore law apply to people and actions on/in Tg Pagar or does Malaysian law apply? Can Malaysia stop Singapore aircraft from flying over Tg Pagar or the MRT running under it?

Fact is that Tg Pagar is a part of Singapore, not Malaysia.

It's not an act of war if Singapore forcibly regains Tg Pagar. It is a confiscation of assets, which Malaysia as the title owner can contest. But it's not an act of war as it is not Malaysian soil.

Only embassies (even then, this is nowhere permanent), the Vatican and Monaco (as far as I know) are exceptions to this concept. Even then, there are limitations placed by the sovereign country (ie. host countries for embassies, Italy and France for the Vatican and Monaco) on logistical things like military and airspace etc.

This post has been edited by seantang: May 27 2010, 10:39 PM

Hi,

Just wanted to ask what's the diff between HDB and HUDC, or the diff between HUDC between Apartment?

Isit correct to say pricing is HDB < HUDC < Private Apartment/Condo?

Thanks

You wrong my friend, Iskandar housing project is advertised on SG radio, and its selling quite well among Sgporeans.

isn't singapore too small a place to work for long term? don't you get bored?

Nope

besides clarques, where else can i go if i get a job there?

if i get a car... i will love singapore more

neway... does any1 knows how much is SIM charging for the MBS MBA?

sg is now on sale... but didnt see anything nice 2day..

Big is not automatically not boring. I've been working in Michigan this week. Huge place. Our company HQ alone is probably the size of Singapore. There is a forest inside the fenced compound that's big enough to support wild deer and wild turkeys. Can see them coming out to graze from our office windows.

Town and residential areas are huge as well. Need a car to drive everywhere. Not only from one part of town to the other, but from Walmart to Best Buy to Sears. Even Starbucks has a drive through.

Entertainment is basically booze, balls (baseball & football) and babes (strippers & hookers). I don't like the first, can't play the second and can't tahan all night with the third. And I'm a little bit sick of steaks, ribs and french fries... although US Angus beef is beautiful.

I can't wait to go back to SG.

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Added on May 29, 2010, 11:14 pmWhat the heck are clarques?

This post has been edited by seantang: May 29 2010, 11:14 PM

the area with all the clubs and shisha cafes. big tent holding everything inside man! you should know it bro!

CLARKE QUAY is it?

ahhh right right

So next time please at least get the name right before posting because it might cause confusion

True true, anyway with regards to my question about life in singapore, what else can be done aside from CLARKE QUAY. Do you guys normally go to malaysia on weekends? I got an offer to work their and have one month to decide

Hello everyone.
Thank you all who have given useful information especially for people just starting to work in SG like me in Eunos Techpark. I can't afford to pay advance payment for rent in SG so thinking of commuting daily from JB for a while. It's GREAT to know that I can bring Malaysian bike at least while not being a PR. However, I would like to ask, how much for the Autopass card?