Yeah. I hope it's not a typo. The seller didn't reply me now.

So you see, my friend that by nowaday standard, your BH is successful and so is your cousin. Your family already has good way of doing BH and maybe you may want to share with others here..................like for sosos. I don't believe that he meant to call you a liar but that your success is difficult to achieve according to him so you may and can teach him and others here a trick or two on how to be as successful as you.

Many do have experience such success in their BH but more have failed BH and sad stories to tell, too. What is important here is that what most goodness are never share but only failure or problem are forwarded here. There are even some having good results like mois but not many....many more failures especially in not good area or too many new BHs seeking for new fledged birds only. Too small a cake to share with too many so everyone need to outdo the other to get to the birds. IF only that you can ensure your few K nests BH owner to allow full cycle every time.....then everyone can have their bread and butter......with birdnest silver lining.


Common all, be generous with the gift from GOD and share your successful way maybe getting repay with blessings with plentiful of good health and good life since good harvest you already have.

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Added on September 22, 2010, 3:39 pmYou must be really kidding ...RM$480 for DR Meranti. With that price, need no checking but take all that he can offer and if any balance., I buy all.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Sep 22 2010, 03:39 PM

Don't hope. Even the lowest grade "Chap Cha" are not selling as low. But if it is RM4800, than I would say is a bit pricey.

Hi there...

just have the first harvest of my 1st season from my 3nos 1st floor shop lot....

just wondering.. is there any contact to share if I were to sell my bird`s nest to...

I see. It must be a typo then.

Is it common to sell in tonnes? I thought it's by feet.

This post has been edited by iamsobloodysick: Sep 22 2010, 06:46 PM

Jz a tot about the sustainabilit of this industry....ie. how many bh can our natural environment support ?

It was mentioned somewhere that there is now some 120,000 bh in Malaysia. For a bh to generate a reasonable income you need to have say... 1Kg nest harvest per month. To have 1Kg nests per month a bh need to have 400 nests and jz a simple assumption of 2 birds per nest, you need 800 birds per bh. So for 120,000 bh to be successful you need to have 96million birds. Each bird requires around 5gm of insects per day. That works out to be 480 tonnes of insects per day. I dunno, but I think that is an enormous amount of insects.


Anyone out there knows how many tonnes of insects our forests produces per day? and of these how many tonnes are the right sized insects for swiftlets. Then you factor in competitions for similar sized insects from bats, spiders, other birds etc.. You can roughly work out how many 1 Kg nests bh our natural environment can support.

Jackie Chow

Scary......

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Added on September 22, 2010, 11:29 pmOkay guys, I have a simple question here. How many tweeter do you install for external sound. I mean a full set specially for a slow growing BH. Thanks man.

This post has been edited by mfyapp: Sep 22 2010, 11:29 PM

Good Question but to me, as long as malaria and dengue still there and as long as dirty rivers remain dirty and as lond as my nest still thick and plentiful; I think we are still in buz. Swiftlets feed on only very tiny insects like mosquitoes, flies and other tiny insects harmful to human and plantation so it good for everyone. Insects that are good to us like bees and butterflies are not affected at all.

One day when all these are gone as good think never last forever but as long as it last and as long as we learn to reinvest our gain into proper usage. We will be prepare for any storm coming unlike our country that has lost tens of year or else we are now better than all our neighboring countries combined including Singapore if we have manage our country like Singapore. If we have with all our natural wealth and Geo position, then we can proudly proclaim" What's Singapore lah only kachang putih" but alas.......

this BH so good ? from the photo


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Anyone have connection of BH for sell? preferable stand alone type. If shoplot converted also can, depending on location. secondly, prefer to have min. 300nests onwards.

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Added on September 24, 2010, 5:50 pmare you interested to sell your bird house?

This post has been edited by Rangnok: Sep 24 2010, 05:50 PM

What area are you looking at ? If around Kedah and Penang, I'll look around for you.

If you are looking for BH @ MY AREA ie. Terengganu and Pahang, pm me on your requirement and mind you that the price will be based on location and most importance are the nests @ Rm800 =Rm1000 per nest. Still interested.....phone me as one BH is for sale and it got 2500 nests.

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Added on September 25, 2010, 8:32 pmI believe that most of us here have downloaded a copy of the drafted 1GP but so far no one has any remarks on the GP. Is the drafted copy really OK but I have many reservation on it.

One of it is the height of the BH allowed @ agriculture land which stated only 12 m is allowed. As in agriculture land, higher is better to prevent thieves and also to attract birds. To build one @ 12 M is to leave the BH at the mercy of the thieves. I heard that land scape is the reason and what's a lousy reason and most of my friends that have BHs @ agri land are 45 fts high and still installed so many steel doors and 2 alarms system with multiple CCTV cameras which at time I joked that the thieves will just take away the sensitive quality CCTVs costing a few thousand ringgit, my friends.

Two weeks ago, the thieves tried to enter through the 45fts high birds entry hole and has triggered the alarm at 2AM. Only after 2 hours, My friends with the help of afew policemen went to the area and the thieves has long gone.
Without the police friends along, I believe most of us dare not go alone to the agriculture land or else, something nasty may happen.

Do you know that I intended to build my BH at 56 fts ...and I will not care if they will prevent me from register my BH as I am concern for the birds, my nests and myself.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Sep 25 2010, 08:32 PM

Unc WW,
What date does it say on the so called 'draft 1GP' you are quoting from?

Dear Tuckfook,
kedah area is ok for me. In fact any other area is ok too generally until i do the testing and calculation. Thanks for your help in finding the good BH for me. can i have your phone no.

Dear WW,
i'm ok with east coast Penin. Malaysia too. Please kindly describe the following detail for easy consideration

a. qty of nest
b. how long farming
c. location & size, storeys
d. status of land i.e. shoplot or agriland, freehold, leasehold or malay reserve
e. bank valuation i.e. estimate
f. best of the best price

u may sms me at +66899678779, i will get back to u ASAP. if anyone interested to venture to thailand for bird nest farming, u may let me know, i might able to show you some basic procedure.

I am referring to 1GP issued on Jan 2010 and I believe you too have downloaded one. The Fed/ local Asso. has promised long ago to get me a drafted copy but I still cannot get it. So, have to download from internet and I Have spoken to the Fed. Asso. Head on the matter and since he is from Trg., he assured me that he will bring the matter to be considered by the MB of Trg but I don't know about other states or that the all well with the rest of you all if implemented.

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Added on September 26, 2010, 11:37 amNo problem,

a. Min 2500 nests
b. 5 years
c. Kemaman town, 3 storey bld and almost 2 shoplot size.... prime location.
d. Freehold
e.How to bank value or estimate on BH
f. Asking price Rm3.5 M and no less

First come, first buy basis and anyone interested can PM me if interested and if still available by then, I will arrange a meeting.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Sep 26 2010, 11:37 AM

A copy of the same was anonymously emailed to me...I didn't realise that that someone had made that available for download.
Barring anyone having a copy later than Jan 2010, we can discuss the contents based on the Jan 2010 copy.
Let's start with the height as from your pre posting...I too am puzzled by that.
What is the basis for the height limit? Did they pull the figure from thin air?
I dun like 'prescriptive' kind of guidelines that put a limitation on folks wanting to experiment.
If we stick to 12m we will never know if the swiftlets will ever prefer a 5m height for each floor, thus averaging 15m, do we?

I may be wrong but I believe it has something to do with the building act/bye laws whereby buildings up to 3 flrs have less stringent requirements and more floors require strict engineering supervision etc.

Perhaps an architect or civil engineer cam clarify.

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This post has been edited by aeiou228: Feb 17 2011, 12:01 AM

Am assuming you are correct on this, but it's by floors...not by height.
If by floor then it's more generic thus leaving height free for experimenting.

Was informed that DVS had a 1GP workshop in KT today.

Dear aeiou228,
thanks for your findings. I'm only interested on BH with existing bird nest i.e. min. 300nests. the more the merrier. Preferable those on agriland but if you have shoplot converted BH, i might consider depending on value to invest and location.

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Added on September 27, 2010, 11:00 amsorry to so many sifus,
just share a little bit here, over here i practice less than 3m height per floor (from top of floor to soffit of slab). the wall is double layer with reinforcement in between. there are so many BH with 4m to 4.5m width x 14 or 16m long. how about 'live cable' installed for security purposes, it is against the law in malaysia?

This post has been edited by Rangnok: Sep 27 2010, 11:00 AM