Dato Beh has a higher stake in EBN than most people in Malaysia, so hopefully he will negotiate a deal that will be good for everyone.

Seems crazy that Malaysians send raw EBN to Indon to clean and then these cleaned nest are returned to Malaysia (incl. other nests) to be exported, inflating Malaysian production and export figures.

The IRS will be thinking 90% of people are evading tax.

As for BH in Padi land, it is not the same in every state. Ask your local land office and local council.

as i know ,Kuala Selangor, Tanjong Karang , Sugai Besar and Sekinchan got many BH in paddy field....especially Sekinchan and Sungai besar . i heard from my friend Sekinchan got around 100 new BH in paddy feild.but no ppl kacau them....so is legal.


u see this video got many BH:
http://youtu.be/LL25XNc0jsE




This post has been edited by sosos: Nov 2 2011, 03:14 PM

....wait for it.........

Is it a myth or what? No BH is allowed in padi field? Do birds affect the growth of padi or the people who live there? You got to be kidding! We have to sacrifice many palm trees to build a BH in a palm field, now you tell me we can't build it in open area like padi field? If some states allow, others don't, why the double standard?

All to do with the official use of land. Some are agriculture, some padi, some industrial, some housing. Not double standard but National Land Code. Can apply for conversion.

Padi is not Agri? Look like our new guideline still has its shortcomings....


By the way, Dato Beh said at a dinner function he ain't quitting, he has a lot to reveal on how to reduce sodium nitrite at the source which means farming practices be adhered to strict standard set out by the authority, probably.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Nov 3 2011, 10:04 AM

i dont think so, as it depend on the land title. if grade A, should not be any problem.

as it depend on the land title.？？？how to see?

Correct me if I am wrong but I recall Land titles in Penang and Malacca are different to all the other states as these two have First Grade titles. Though First Grade implies that you may do anything you want on the land, you are also governed by the National Land code, The Town council Bye Laws, The Drainage and Irrigation act,the mining acts, etc.

All titles have on them the specific use for the land. Commercial, Rubber, Agriculture, Padi, etc. Each category pays a different amount of tax.

The 1GP states clearly the type of land that BH can be built on.

The use of land can be converted with permission from the local council and land office. Fees are applicable. The state of Penang has stipulated that no padi land can be converted to any other use. The reason are numerous. Other states may differ. One of the main reasons for the halt on padi land conversion is because much of padi land was being converted to commercial purposes(housing, industrial etc.), divided into smaller lots and sold at a premium, escalating land prices in the state, and depleting the available land for padi farming.

If you want to know in detail, take your title to the local Land Office and ask them.

Dato Beh publicized the Red nest fiasco, the Nitrite level scare, etc. Dato is intimately involved and knows this inside out. It may be just sometimes that his focus may be in the wrong direction as we see it. When the big fish go to war, us small fish can only keep out of the way and hope for the best.

Somebody is making hay while the sun shines. We all suffer. Just hoping for a quick recovery for all ebn ranchers.

yes, as some of the paddy field are gazetted, and no conversion is allowed. one thing i wish to raise here, is it the the BH permit is under agricultural dept ? can anyone share what is the latest procedure now ?

Directly under the Veterinary Dept. which is under the Ministry of Agriculture. Just register. Local Council then issues the permit to operate. Not all states adopted 1GP, Penang yet to be announced if I remember correctly.

i am looking for the 1GP, where can i get the copy ? do u mind to tell are yor from Penang as well ?

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Added on November 5, 2011, 10:53 pmmaybe some sifu can commented this. i notice my BH at paddy field only harvest in seasonal pattern such as July of the year. i m not so sure cause some said there is no season for bird to build nest. Is there any thing i miss out here.

This post has been edited by wkng: Nov 5 2011, 10:53 PM

Tis tube lagi syok...enjoy as me to HK see how to die....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmJ46oHQB8Q&feature=email

The answer to your questions are all available in the forum or with a quick Google search. To be helpful to everyone here, it is best we carry out our own basic research, especially within this forum.

Bro, any good news regarding to bird nest price?

Thank you for this fantastic entertaining link.
I am going to forward it to my siblings. I am sure they will have a good time, like me.

Looking forward to part 2.

Another week, anybody sold/bought any BN?

What's the price now for 180 nest and 90 nest?

Let's wait for another week as there is meeting between M'sia health minister and China counterparts this week. If there is good outcome, sure the price will go up, and the crisis will be over too.

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Added on November 8, 2011, 7:39 pm燕窩允天然亞硝酸鹽‧廖中萊：馬中共擬標準盼月內完成
國內 2011-11-08 18:30

廖中萊表示，馬中兩國將共同製定天然亞硝酸鹽的含量標準；左起為馬來西亞燕窩商聯合會總會長拿督馬興松及馬來西亞駐中國大使館公使巴拉詹德蘭；右為衛生部副總監拿督諾希山。（圖：星洲日報）
（中國‧北京8日訊）衛生部長拿督斯里廖中萊指出，馬中兩國衛生部認同燕窩不能含有人工添加的亞硝酸鹽，但允許含特定標準的亞硝酸鹽，兩國已委任專家團，以快馬加鞭在今年12月前，完成制定標準的工作。

他說，兩國衛生部將成立一個專家團，共同制定及鑑定天然亞硝酸鹽的含量標準，專家團的大馬代表是衛生部食品安全組高級主任諾萊妮，中國的代表是食品安全標準處處長張旭東，及食品安全綜合協調與衛生監督局副局長陳銳。

“諾萊妮原本明日就回馬，但我指示她留下處理這方面的事宜，與中方制定標準，我們希望能在12月完成制定標準的工作。”

廖中萊今日與中國衛生部長陳竺會面後，在新聞發佈會上指出，參與會面的大馬燕窩商公會代表也表示將全力給予配合，即一旦馬中制定好標準，大馬燕窩商將會遵守。

爭取列國際食品法典

他說，馬中雙方在完成鑑定標準的工作後，可作為世界衛生組織的參考，他們也會爭取將燕窩天然亞硝酸鹽的含量標準，列入國際食品法典。

他指出，馬中其實可以將制定標準的工作交給世界衛生組織處理，但這需要至少半年才能完成，相當費時，因此雙方決定自行制定標準。

他指出，制定標準的工作一旦完成，大馬的燕窩就能重新進口到中國的市場，在制定標準的同時，他們也不能忽略健康風險的評估。

他已經向中國當局反映，中國禁止大馬燕窩入口後所帶來的嚴重影響，而且我國的燕窩已有數個月沒有出口到中國，中國則表現出將全面配合的態度，以共同解決這方面的問題。

他指出，雙方已針對大原則達致協議，即燕窩不能含人工添加的亞硝酸鹽，只能含有天然的亞硝酸鹽，他對中國接受這項原則感到欣慰。

This post has been edited by Edward Wai: Nov 8 2011, 07:40 PM

hopefully it will be productive move afther then