What about campur grade ?

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Added on October 29, 2011, 5:59 pmThank you WW.

Ultrasonic bath doesn't work at all ?

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Oct 29 2011, 05:59 PM

How sad but as I told you was that you need to press for higher price and the only way is to group up in strength and quantity so the buyers will have no choice but pay a more realistic price for the nests. I feel that we all have been taken advantage of and I do not like it at all and if I am younger and have the energy and strength, I will go to find way to find buyers @ China. Otherwise, we are always at the mercy of buyers who so far determine the price and we were only lucky once in a blue moon when the big buyers clashed and each buyer trying to out bid the other. When come another of this infighting between buyers as now the buyers seem to be at peace and compromised which is very bad for us, the BH owners.

As I am posting, the price may drop as the buyer buying at higher price may now offer lower if they can be influenced by the other buyers. Why pay more if can buy cheaper. If supply can be bought at cheaper, no smart buyer will want to pay more. How to get the right price for your nests all depend on cooperation among the ranchers in " One for all, and all for one" motto.

Here, we are safe at the moment as we sold all nests at the better price although I am still not happy with the selling price then but then it's better than what others states or even neighbouring towns were getting. I heard that local buyers sell their nests to a Malaysian Millionaire Dato buyer at Rm3300/kg for China market and if it is true, then wallou, your buyers are getting very good profit from their purchase of your nests. If like this, better be nests buyer than building BH as you need not have to wait and money come faster lah..............provided the rumour I got is the truth but I don't know and wouldn't check on it as I don't have any nest balance left to be worry at all., only after afew months time and then I may have to worry if price still remain the same.

God bless you if you haven't got the right buyer and sorry for you if you have sold very low for your nests.

Remember, the above news is what I hearsay and I don't have any evidence of it.........without prejudice, my friends.

west wing, at what price did you sell?

Here, we sold our nests at Rm3100 to Rm3500 depending on quality and quantity. Remember, quantity sales do get better price always....and corner, at RM2500.

Above, Berita Lama

Yesterday my partner told about his BN harvest was loss due to 4 legged pests tearing through his plastic bag. Nearly 10kilo gone.
I did advise him to buy a freezer since it's a relatively cheap investment.

For our current 10-months old JV rented bh, quite disappointing no bird dropping improvement even when we did not enter for 6 weeks after seeing a swiftlet fly in.
Last week we sealed the old dog kennel entrance and opened a new roof entrance. A hose disconnected from the tap and flooded the top floor. Coincidentally it made the whole floor have that BH smell because the droppings and ammonia were soaked wet.
Yesterday while making some improvements to the water catchment and partition walls got a few individual swiftlets flew in while we working.

Now got a bit of hope

This post has been edited by BirdNest_Satay: Oct 30 2011, 11:47 AM

Hello everybody,

I got 2 pieces of land at Johor and I have some question about swiftlet business:

1) What is average output (in kg) per month for 3 storey building?
2) One of the land is near to someone house. I heard that we can't build near house. Is it true?
3) Both lands now is on palm oil plantation. So, is it suitable to setup the swiftlet building at the same land?

1) The closest answer to this question is 100g to 50kg depending on how big and how successful your BH is.

2) It depends. But must not be Kawasan Tumpuan Activity Bandar. Kindly refer to GAHP rules as discussed earlier.

3) Why not ? as long as you can attract the swiflets and your BH is equip with state of the art anti theft, anti predator facilities. There are hundreds of BH in the Palm Oil plantation along the major highway.

Wow, the four-legged babies must be having very smooth skin & furs.

Not easy to attract new birds, especially for the first half of 2011 due to unfavorable weather conditions...that's what I gather but I could be wrong.

Anyone know who is Dato Phua, or something like it, a very rich man cos rumor has that he has permit to export EBN by Tons and is buying nests and these chinese maybe buying for him.

That's what I heard.....any truth in it????????

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Added on October 31, 2011, 6:01 pmSad thing is that where there are Oil palm, there are rats and where there are rats, there are OWLs and OWLS spell trouble for BH.

Remember, OWLS are good for oil palm estate and if only they remain only in catching Rats and snakes but swiftlets seem to be a more easier meals for OWLs when darkness fall.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Oct 31 2011, 06:01 PM

So, making bird house at palm oil plantation is not a wise decision?


By the way, how to check whether the place got swiftlet or not? Saw at youtube about this but how much the device usually cost? the portable one..

i did saw few bird house in palm plantation in kemaman. and the people there mentioned that it is doing well.

No, doing BHs at Oil Palm area are good as there are alot of insects to feed the birds but alas, also predators, too.

How to prevent Owls and other predators from entering your BH is a serious and difficult effort. At present, there are many BHs at Oil Palm area and only the unlucky ones got predators problems so pray that your's is not chosen ones, the unlucky one cos once they entered, the owls will target your bh until you get rid of the owl like one guy who send 3 Owls to the nearby zoo and got a free pass to the zoo. Why this BH has more than 3 owls which the rest of many Bhs in the area seem free from owls problem? Just Maybe, the Aroma he is using that not only attract swiftlets but also Owl to breed inside...hahahaha sorry, if it offended friends selling Aroma.

Initial setup to prevent Owl from entering is important cos when the owl enter once, the owl is no longer afraid to enter again and no spikes or electric wire will prevent them from entering. They just fly into your BH without resting on to the wall which they normally do when they are no sure of what inside the BH.

Many tried to narrowing the entrance to about 6 ins bars and it work but also did prevent free flow of swiftlets entering and thus prevented increment of nests....... unless someone come up with some better idea or solution and shooting the owls is not a solution at all cos it's illegal, bad for the oil palm estate nearby and also for our soul.


As for the swiftlet tester, you can buy if you have the money to spend or DIY and cheapest is to attache the tweeter to your car amp thru the speaker outlet and play it from your car amp with the tweeter above your car.

My view to share.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Nov 1 2011, 11:18 AM

thanks for your helpful view.. if the land is near to river, it should be better right?

by the way, to mix palm oil plantation with birdhouse on a single land, how much clearance should be provided around the birdhouse?

dear all:
newly join this discussion. nice to meet all

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Added on November 1, 2011, 5:21 pmanyone has any idea about bh at paddy field ? noticed a periodic harvest style there, not sure how true is it ?

This post has been edited by wkng: Nov 1 2011, 05:21 PM

there's alot bird house at Padang Besar, Kuala Selangor which most agro activity there is paddy plantations.

noticed the harvest season is following the cycyle of paddy activities. anyone can comment on that?

Free market rules...

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...8972&sec=nation

Hope they will bring us good news soon after the meeting. I m optimistic of it.

let support to the good direction rules

Quoted NEWS:"Malaysia is the world’s second biggest exporter of bird’s nest after Indonesia with 80% sold to China.

Malaysian bird’s nest exports to China had surged from 1.44 tonnes in 2009 to 100 tonnes last year."

How did Malaysia EBN export surged from 1.44T to 100T within one year?????

If our increment is 10X then our export should be 1K tonnes this years and who say increment in BH aren't good? Hahahahaha.....must be someone were using Malaysia to export their country nests causing all the previous problem as we anticipated.

The Authority must allow free to export to all and not restricted to afew friends and associates only....obviously with regulations and conditions so that only pure nests can be exported thru our country....and similar incidence must not be repeated again. We ask for ONE STOP CENTER to process all export documents required and hope that the authorities are viewing our opinions here....as caring government.

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Added on November 2, 2011, 10:18 amUnless I am wrong, it is no allow to have BHs at padi fields.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Nov 2 2011, 10:18 AM