V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus
V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus
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Sep 8 2011, 06:36 PM
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Sep 30 2011, 12:54 PM
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[quote=Cergau,Sep 29 2011, 06:06 PM]
Just back from PutraJaya..left early before the end to avoid the commuter rush hour. 1)My observation...MOH seem sincere in wanting to resolve the issue with China 2)They claim to be in touch with their Chinese counterparts...and are enforcing our existing food safety regulations to comply with the Chinese requirement of 0 PPM for the stuff. The Fed Assoc have reiterated that that stuff occur naturally in raw EBN (this require you guys to verify) and 0ppm is not achievable. MOH claim that they have indicative positive response with their Chinese counterpart for 1 ppm....yet to be confirmed. MANY CLAIM HERE THEY KNOW THE RIGHT WAY TO PROCESS NEST N KNOW ALL BOUT IT simple ,bring some of yr raw n cleaned n run a lab test that is cheap n they have branch every state http://www.bphealthcare.com/BPLab/contactus.asp to get the nitrite ppm/Kg then only talk weather yr nest is qualify fr export then only talk bout wat kind of box should use n wat kind of tracking they wanna post This post has been edited by kohloh: Sep 30 2011, 12:55 PM |
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Oct 10 2011, 08:11 PM
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if this kinds of news come out localy here i bet consumer will rush to get more nest ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnUuTpsYh44&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPaIUd1cXWo&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi3kXuE330A...n_order&list=UL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkRORoqLScY...n_order&list=UL those who like to educate consumer there please dont bark here,get yr ticket n make some road show there.......... This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 10 2011, 08:37 PM |
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Oct 12 2011, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(West Wing @ Oct 12 2011, 03:10 PM) Just my way of doing EBN stock market strategy...drawing our own defence line like stock market preventing a free for all. what u think is up to u if u think u r e sifu here but not at e market out there.as even till today china is still hantaming bird nest hardly=1. When market drop from RM4800 to Rm4200, we try to sell above Rm4400 and if possible negotiate a more suitable price at the moment. 2. When the price drop at Rm3800, we manage to secure at Rm4100......more or less Rm100. 3. When the price is at Rm3400, we refused to sell. 4. When price drop to Rm2600 AB mixed, we ask for more or less Rm3400 which formally we refused to sell. Hopefully, we can manage to get the price up again....selling lesser but getting higher price is better than selling more and getting less. We are doing our little part to ensure a better tomorrow for all if possible. Our intention is to force the market price up and in forward gear instead of reverse gear now and even if we suffer alittle losses now, hopefully, in the near future, we will be able to gain more if we play our games well. Otherwise, the ball will be at the other side, and we are always on defensive and at their mercy which they will determine how and when to strike.. People generally will forget as usual do and pls don't remind them of the RED matter which is past and should be gone and those dealing with it deserve all they get and should be more........playing with public's health. A crime I must add. Remember experts saying that the price may drop alittle after a few weeks due to present New Year orders which I think isn't because all said that the factories are having tons of nests on hand and why and who's buying now; it must because that it's cheap,eh? Or otherwise, there are many orders which we weren't informed and knew. Have anyone being to Guangzhou lately and all Red Nests must be removed or taken off the shelves but are our nests selling OK still??? Those pure nests that neither pure white or reddish in color......alittle like we chinese, a little brownish and yellowish which are good for health....hahahaha. My friend who has outlets in China said that the present problem is getting the nests there but there are orders. Who's right and who's lying, that I don't know and maybe, you can. My view and opinion on the matter to share. http://news.cntv.cn/china/20111012/109680.shtml its today noon news n it say they use shit to process nest.white or red is not the matter now as consumer there surely will viod this product fr long long long enough.now is a good opertunity fr u guys to keep yr nest but before keeping it get few grm to run n nitrtie test at yr town or gov VET cheap ny n after u keep fr some time n before u sell ,run a test again to see e nitrite %ppm/kg only then u say yr nest is good fr others health or not ya. as now over flooded white nest r reaching 200ton n cant sell so after CNY also cannot go n china keep up e good work by hantaming weekly then good luck to u guys as we estimate will be over 500ton before jun nex year...as fr yr fren tat hav shop there does he sell 2kg in 3 month time ??u know i know la..dont blur others with those kinds of info.. as now if u bring nest to trading market says its malaysia nest u sure kena ""puuiii" as frm my bos there(HK &CN) really hate u guys now. does u guys relise malaysia monthly 15Ton go to where ah??does we really can clean n export by our self ah??not yet n now e GOV r here dy to put a leg into tis n todays papers also the horse also making noise dy"""Beehhhhhh"Beeehhhh" u guys remember the "wang wang biscuit" case??only 1factory in china has problem the whole group of factory n world wide market die off so easly,,,till today no one buys it....itu biskut lah kawan..rm$2.50 satu bungkus ..tis is bird nest talking bout RMB$60,000 to $100,000 per KG there la n today news says its smoke by shit""wah ,geng la.... hai,,,donno how to say...tats wat info i got up to now http://www.yanwoxing.com/index.asp This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 12 2011, 04:09 PM Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Oct 12 2011, 04:52 PM
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""brother koh loh, don't scares us so much lah........can really heart attack one lah!.....""
no la..jus let u know my info ny ma...as i deal few dealers in HK tat they atlease trade 500kg to 5ton monthly n now...if wana kena heart attack should be them lo.... this shit how deep they know better lo... by the way,,hows my horse horn sound????""Beehhhh""Beeehhhhh"" cantik tak?? This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 12 2011, 04:55 PM |
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Oct 12 2011, 05:24 PM
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""Possibilities are that the present situation is purposely created to ensure that we die first for trying to meddle into their market.""
i m not taikor as they r there. U hav a point here tat i was doing marketing in july tat 1 whole family dealing nest in HK over 60years bos told me""kohloh,u go inside(china)to hav fun enough dy,,,dont play play with market there""as i pull bac all my dealing in CN frm March n lucky didnt kena this crisis.as i know many malaysian(1000+)hav shop in china but still ned HK dealers to run their into CN n when july when stock pile up in HK n ready to go in fr the mid autum fes,,,HK dealers say ""cannot enter""surely they hav excuse=university sport la""tis n tat la then china sizes all shop ass all no pay tax n nitrite is an excuse ny...then start e drop till today... as their teory=""=farm yr nest""me="clean n sent "them="left the market fr us"" n do come n have some fun some time inside.... Added on October 12, 2011, 5:28 pm QUOTE(ChanK @ Oct 12 2011, 05:18 PM) bro koh loh, I am a human being also belum tau 100% about human being....what i know about birds then? ... dont like tat la...so fast marah marah mea???join me lo...7th nex month see see lok lok market there...listen wat shit those hong kies wanna say as i still sending them stock till today...let me intruduce u whos e Godzila of HK,who is e T Rex there n whos e big snake there...no more interest in birds, farms, n anything to do with it. thts it. horn ke, put put ke, chit chit ke, tit tit ke, also not interested... hai...bad habit never die....i promised myself..this is my last comment in this forum. tq bro kohloh for at least tell us the real situation.... This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 12 2011, 05:31 PM |
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Oct 12 2011, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(TinkleBell @ Oct 12 2011, 05:32 PM) Added on October 12, 2011, 5:33 pmOopss..... I mean PEACE & CHEERS Added on October 12, 2011, 5:39 pm Hi KL Is it too much to ask what are the above website talking about? Thank you, 1st one is china today news talk bout how they sent spy wit video to surabaya to spy how they make red nest..good also ..result smoke 10days with SHIT...""its ""SHIT"" deep shit liew... 2n site...malu la to promote here ...........................................................my site.. |
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Oct 12 2011, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(ChanK @ Oct 12 2011, 05:18 PM) bro koh loh, I am a human being also belum tau 100% about human being....what i know about birds then? ... Dont like tat bro :cry no more interest in birds, farms, n anything to do with it. thts it. horn ke, put put ke, chit chit ke, tit tit ke, also not interested... hai...bad habit never die....i promised myself..this is my last comment in this forum. tq bro kohloh for at least tell us the real situation.... still need u to company me to HK to met those King Kongs,,Godzilas n so so..... stil ned u to carry me back when drunk frm CP Ktv.... stil ned u to support me at hantaming here ....... dont left me alone harding here......... This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 12 2011, 09:30 PM |
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Oct 13 2011, 10:15 AM
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If not mistaken, koh loh already disclosed how to produced blood nest using birdshit more than a year ago in v1 or maybe v2. The information is still there.
[/quote] yah mea??cant remember so much la after kena tis crisis now,,,,actually its not any well keep secret la fr us long enough in this trad. i belive many dont know wat actually click this crisis to happen at e first.....who to blame....every one........ red nest porducer...using MAL tat hav e right to export direct to CN...teaming up wit some guy localy here to apply fr export to CN legaly wit e application form fr 2ton each shipment(saw e application form)may i ask who hav e capable to export 2ton in 1 shipment fr local players??i saw it as was there applying fr an 5kg to shanghai customer.so they smuggler it to here then treat it as MALAI nest then sent legaly but our GOV also gong gong creating those rules tat we only bring samples bout 30g fr inspection then get e OK to sent dy...so kena la few times in CN kena sizes by custom there as the document only written e word ""燕窝"" n didnt say its red or golden or white or triangle or strips....org gomen kerja mahu senang ma...so when they get e approval can easly sent what they like la by using MAL name.after few case in CN e gov step up to fix u guys la so,,,whos to blame....??those whos use MAL names n a bunch of guys tat SIN is e first country tat hav right to export to CN many years back n people doing business there e right way didnt create any problem fr so many years but this time is drag by tis tooo....guys over there bing bing piang piang us dy... now consumer whole world takut this ""燕窝""thing aready n can we rebuilt their confident or not really dont know but it will surely takes years aggree by all major players in this trade... news by internet is fast .........http://www.zaobao.com/yx/yx111013_007.shtml This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 13 2011, 10:28 AM |
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Oct 13 2011, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(West Wing @ Oct 13 2011, 10:37 AM) Since our GOM has so much money at hand to give to the raayat, we also raayat and the GOM should dump in billions to save us now.........buying all Malaysian nests at our hand and stock piles it to ensure better pricing. Set up processing plants here also with the help of the GOM fund to produce end products cos now is the best time to do so with less capital investment (cheap Birdnests) and educated Malaysian and neighboring Singapore to take EBN daily for health. Maybe, with this storm really come with it a golden harvest....a new industry...top Quality EBN producers of end product in the world...may it be drinks, cakes or cosmetic and health supplements. Only my talk talk only. oi kawan""你的皮肤是什么颜色 ya"" |
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Oct 13 2011, 04:16 PM
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[quote=West Wing,Oct 13 2011, 03:48 PM]
[quote=aeiou228,Oct 13 2011, 11:37 AM] Got lah....nah... 4 years ago in fact http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=13904521 Thanks Aeiou, I wasn't born then or should say that I wasn't using the forum discussing or even getting involved in any discussion at all on any matter until I found my true Love with swiftlets matter. Thank again for the info. [/quote] wa...this shit is 5yers old man when even MAL hav no rules in nest trading or exporting as all goes tru HK channel... i belive at tat time no one here know bout wat is nitrite & nitrate n in mind is nest is an expensive goods as fr me tat hav no choices i put faith in tis as i seen before tat plam oil is jus rm$80/Ton n it rise before to rm$880/Ton.= traders teory ""have order,will travel"" eat well every one............ http://www.soshiok.com/multimedia/photos/1061 This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 13 2011, 04:33 PM |
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Oct 13 2011, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(West Wing @ Oct 13 2011, 05:54 PM) As we are talking, one of my friends sold his more than 50Kg @ Rm2800/kg rojak and he was with me a few days ago and told me that he isn't interested in anything less than Rm3000. since u r so intrested to know n me also in n no mood to deal biz ...i jus wack 40Kg yesterday but as u guys know i dont buy in market,,,meaby yr collecter collect frm u then ended in my factory...prices is rm$2900 but tis dont worry me,,wat worry me when tis nest is marketed at Nov.is there any buyer willing to accept it as all my fellow processer with over 2000 workers is now in e market at HK there try to push out their stock even in losing $$$ prices..in our calculation if nex month consumer still affraid(should be) then tis CNY will be doom n with e remain few hundreds Tons holding wat do u expect after CNY with 6month of low season followingSo, you see, with so much negative news, it's frightening and nobody can blame him for selling but at least he get Rm2800 instead of below Rm2400 as advertised. So, it's OK if you sell at any price but sadly, I believe that we deserve more. Only remember to bargain for a better price before selling....... Maybe, Kohloh can provide better price with his contacts in China...By the way, how about the Vietnamese buyers for corner types??? we factory cant stop cause when stop,workers in an low income(rm9 a day)will find new jobs n not cming bac in e future.so till now mean time jus 3month tis crisis happpen ,over 5000 factory hav close down.Info frm a fren with over 2000 pickers says if nex month no good sigh then 99% will die off..he nvr mind,,kanasai he built his house using rm100M but future of tis biz is doom.as fr me ,every thing is in tis trade as always i dont like to farm but as i say ""have faith la,,we seen before plam oil drop till rm80/ton n few month back it was rm880/ton....ride tru tis crisis n dont harvest so much n yr populations grow more ma n in tis bad news crisis happening it will be not so much newbies jumping into tis farming to shaare yr birds.Good also.can breed more.fr tis time good also atlease e red n chemical all die off so much easy fr white if,,if it make an return in nest as fr us factory it totaly depend at e market,,if consumer ""tak mahu"" we die first but Badawi spent Millions in advertising e ""tak mahu"" thing also we smoking like hell...kekeke...cheers la...cry also no use ...to god lo see hows thosee Godzilas,King Kong sattle it,,not our position...fr market can or not will be up dating nex month when i market e best of e besst nest there |
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Oct 13 2011, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(Bobby C @ Oct 13 2011, 06:35 PM) Interesting to read old stories. wa kanasai tis few days me like e story teller guy ..simple when i was in shanghai china doing marketing 5 years back i bring along 28kg of white n 2kg of reds,,,,no matter how i explaing told him its not good fr health even its turn red in e bird hs , e director of an drug factory tat pack those herbs n nest to market CN dont accept wat i say as he say""market demands reds"" so we deal reds...So easy loh ..came back order raws frm Indo clean it n market la...its bring better profits wo....Just wonder where this 'sifu' kelvin chap has gone too. Website no longer working liau. so wat??does it proof wat??tis is business...now e market dont want this shiting things tat spread to e white to tat carry e name of "燕窝' tats worry e whole things...how bad it is u guys wont know,,only traders in e world largest distribution center know best..dont jus cry here..go look fr yr self waats happening in tis trade out there,,,,either wat teory u guys use or plan wont effect e market a bit cause malaysia is too small n not expreances to move any market out there...so farmers, play farmers part,,,,traders play their part ,,,,,,dont be jealous when u think u know it all but u dont"" like SG people say""kiang is good enough,,dont kea kiang any one cares to know more about bird nest propreties up to dates?? This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 13 2011, 07:05 PM |
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Oct 13 2011, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(northface @ Oct 13 2011, 07:10 PM) Havent heard anything abt BN properties but im gonna KIV contruction of my other standalone BH for the time being. too late la fren as news well spred world wide.some one here know this happening IF low nest price remains, then the $1k/nest valuation for BN properties will have to be lowered to maybe $500-600/nest or less. That would greatly affect the price of BN properties. 1=Was helping a fren to sell his 2shops with over 10,000 nest fr 9M n 2 buyers was very intrested n e owner try to heck it up to 9.5M 2 month back but now ,fren call up n ask is e buyers still around??u know i know la...mana mahu cari lagi.... 2=fren buy some land buy paying 20+K fr e down payment but willing to giv it up e down payment even he him self is an owner of few bird hs with over 8000 nest 3=also n fren bh wanted to sell fr 5M with over 5000 n buyers come to visit n count dy but now all missing in action... 4=help a fren to sell off a 2shop tat famous to collect 60kg each harvest fr 4.6M n e other partner buys it over n manage to sell it off to market fr 5.3M as e whole market only knows tis bh collect 60kg each time but what they donno is it drop till 18kg when it was sold...god bless e last buyer...now more bless.....bless...bless..... tats how bad news effect e market.... same same like stock market if u been tru it..... This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 13 2011, 08:24 PM |
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Oct 13 2011, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(northface @ Oct 13 2011, 07:29 PM) Haha sure bro, exactly like stock market. now even i read also donno wat i m reading but conceder it right la...doesnt matter any more...Right now this is what we call short term supply shock, there is so much supply yet there isn't any willing to buy. But major difference is stocks are tied to the underlying company you're investing in. If Chinese ppl stop eating BN, not everyone stop per se, but the negative news causing a certain number of people to stop buying bird nest. Then the price of BN will have to come down because there is less demand. The consumer is the boss in this industry. I see some of u hoping taikor or whatever to save this industry, but if no regular consumer buys BN or holds BN to such high 'value' anymore, there is nothing much anybody can do, am I right? here some players tat he him self admit he is using MAL as n trasit point as i do know him n e person he mentioning too but things aready happen,,,,, last post,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, http://www.walet-swiftlet.com/harga-sarang...ni-t33-630.html |
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Oct 13 2011, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(ChanK @ Oct 13 2011, 07:46 PM) liked tht i will delete this link liao....no point come here see ppl leak ppl ass... or u want join me toHK listen wat e Godzilas n King kongs wanna say bout tis... u guys always think tat u can win over those wit hundred years expreances n with dame cheap labour players there by setting up processing n wit e right to market in CN u r wrong totally,,,,they hav been lobbying fr many years back more early than us ,,meting was held between CN n ID gov in surabaya last 2 wek talking bout direct enter n coming close fr e signing.if they sign then we r....?? talk bout good nest,,u think they have more or we??talk bout capital u think they hav more or we??thier chain r all over CN 10 years back. farmers always demand higher prices tats fr sure but fr east cost bro,,,yr nest prices is e highst in e market higher than west n e east but u guys donno,,,wanna play hide n seek,,,me been a collecter long ago(history) as som here dont have a chance to sell me before as now me pencen long ago dy n left it to my anak buah out there.... farmers tat first time collect frm his farm 8 to 10kg always feels like top of the world n thniks tat he knows it all as me also start as a farmer ma....dont think tis trade will feed u for ever as if got time go to history land(100years) n view those bh in town like wat i m a small town in wit over few thousand bh but all kosong...why?? som wit over 6000 or 8000 bh but kosong...u think they r carzy mea to built 8000 if there is no bird locate..frm there u start to learn...tat is my advise. if guys donno where to locate lates how market r hantaming yr nest do try it here............. http://news.baidu.com/ns?cl=2&rn=20&tn=new...rd=%D1%E0%CE%D1 http://news.soso.com/n.q?sc=news&pid=web.n...5%E7%AA%9D&sd=0 tis 2 sorces enough fr u to suffer daily... walaueh,,,baram n niah cave nest tat use to sell rm12.500 raw per Kg but now have to post at U tube.....hai...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5WlHQ_XumM This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 13 2011, 08:50 PM |
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QUOTE(ChanK @ Oct 14 2011, 07:45 AM) Just for fun; lets do some predictions :- bro...wanna leak,,dont leak too much....cukup jus fr those rotten news ny,,,, the dirts are all cleared now, malaysia nests are history in china. with export license's all been cancelled lately.... - Malaysian farmers will faced the same dilemma tht indonesian farmers faced for the past one years, tht is have to sell their nests at low price as they can't export their nests to china. the market rate for bn there is rm1.6k - 1.8k now. We will face the same scenario for at least 1 year or more. From past experience, it will be at least 3 years. - Indonesia nests n vietnam nests will becomes the first n second runner up...i predict vietnam is the next big thing. they will become the star of bn in china.most indonesian taikoh's already have link n factory in vietnam. lets see after one year the prediction is correct or not. Hope this prediction is not real. The End.....end.end.end.end. - This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 14 2011, 09:16 AM Attached File(s)
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Oct 14 2011, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 14 2011, 10:02 AM) Bro, I really enjoy reading your posts. so juicy any so many lieu. Semua hamtam direct, no hiding hiding one abang,,after receiving e letter hav to work dy.....hundreds of shop in china waiting fr those papers to open shop,,,no document how to open is not tat they dont want to open,,,,they r having a bad time there ,,some malaysian renovation fr e shop ny over half M there...there is no giving up,,so life mus continue n we r e doc provider....lucky today here we off day,,,sembayang ma pray fr more birds,,,so nex wek will be busy.....nice to hav u guys hantaming here n there...meaby nex time same crisis then i,ll be bac hantaming..keekekeke let ""kohlohleak"" 1 kali lagi.......... doing business in boleh land very funny dy....1 issue exporting papers then 1 came out shouting cannot,,,,, This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 14 2011, 10:38 AM Attached File(s)
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Oct 14 2011, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(ChanK @ Oct 14 2011, 11:13 AM) hai....predictions lah...not leak leh...if leak meaning true liao...don't lah brother....don't make me heart attack leh...already CPU 10 times liao...cannot CPU again liao.... dont give up easy bro,,,,,inject 1 vitamin fr u to drag yr life longer,,,,,,"Beehhhh"'....Behhhhh"" so weak...want to see light liao..... Wah!....our dept now act so fast liao ahh.....`sudah dibenarkan utk ekspok ke china'....already got kebenaran fr china or not? u benar tak ada guna leh.... the end...end.end.end.end.end.end.end.end.end....... . . . . . . . _________________________________________________ http://finance.sina.com.cn/consume/2011101...310621093.shtml die off those 70% problems child ,e moon will be more round nex time but.... tambah lagi 1 leak to enjoy...tis is phillip a heavenly players tat his living hs aready cost rm100M u think tis guys so easy die off??we still exchange ideal n news daily till today to deal wit every bad days or good ,,,,,no ned to ask surely some of u guys harvest ended up here la,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fapsmh3kbFg This post has been edited by kohloh: Oct 14 2011, 12:53 PM |
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