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 V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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post May 11 2010, 07:33 PM

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Check this out.

http://www.kamalswift.com/blog/

Marketing man doing job for Aeroswift.

BTW, to West Wing and so many others, the industry owes you all a lot to make it more mainstream.


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post May 13 2010, 10:30 PM

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West Wing is truly a rare species and needs protection from Perhilitan and our Justice System.

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post Jun 5 2010, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(ChanK @ Jun 5 2010, 10:18 AM)
Tht is the reason why many good mens stop fighting for ordinary farmers.

I once saw an eagle hovering around our farms trying to attack young birds, and then suddenly the eagle was chased by hundred of swiftlets and runaway empty handed.

Swiftlets with tiny body and tiny brain but still they knew when to unite and fight the enemy and chase them away eventhough they knew that they are no match with the enemy as the enemy is physically stronger and is more powerful than them. But, they Unite and Fight with no fear and Won.

We, swiftlet farmers, physically stronger and with bigger brains still lose to the tiny brain swiftlets.

SHAME ON U !!!

AND YOU ALL DESERVES IT !!!

COME RAP US, WE DON'T RESIST

COME SUCK US, WE DON'T MIND

COME KILL US, WE ARE WEAK
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CK, thats a good one. I have indeed seen with my own eyes a group of pigeons attacked an eagle and also like you said, swiftlets grouping together to chase away other birds of prey.

I also like to say I appreciate very much the numerous inputs by so many here to prop up this industry.

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post Aug 3 2010, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Lucas 1 @ Aug 2 2010, 03:11 AM)
Pekan Association is not in any way associated to the Federal Association at all. It is an independent localised association under very good, sincere and committed committee and leadership. There is another Merchant Association there but has very limited membership and command no respect from the local BH owners.
Understand in Alor Star, the local council is in the process to issue BH licenses at only RM180 per BH operation across the board to all BH owners. There is no necessity for any applicant to be member of any association or must have certificate of GAHP. It is a good job well done by the PAKATAN RAKYAT COUNCILLORS with the full cooperation and support from the Council Mayor. In fact, they decided and started the process even well before the announcement of the 1GP. Understand the Alor Star Council is not prepared to follow the 1GP if the guidelines are too stringent and bureaucratic with red tapes. It is hope that the other local councils in Kedah will follow suit soon. But it seems there are Little Napoleons in certain councils dictated by the UMNO with hidden agenda trying to give problems to the local BH owners so to invite hatred for the Kedah PR State Govt. 
Anyway, it is always good to join or form another association under leadership you trust and have confidence into. But please be prepared to participate and contribute in any way you could in unity to protect the common interest of all the BH owners in your area. Never be selfish. In unity under a true association, you have strength to bargain and negotiate with the Authority for justified terms. The Govt officials always very scare of dealing with representatives from known well supported association under truly respectable leadership. Even the most corrupted officials would have to behave themselves and act professional and be reasonable in the negotiation with such association.
Maybe someone can help pass the following info to the Chairman of the Pekan Association to help him in convincing the Pekan Council to be realistic and reasonable. If not, we can bet that by next General Election, the Pahang State will definitely be lost to PAKATAN RAKYAT.

KADAR LESEN PREMIS YANG SEDIA DI LAKSANAKAN OLEH NEGERI NEGERI LAIN:-
1) TELOK INTAN----------RM200/OPERATION
2) SRI MANJUNG---------RM240/OPERATION
3) PULAU PINANG-------RM240/OPERATION
4) TAIPING-----------------RM250/OPERATION
5) PARIT BUNTAR--------RM200(2400K.P KE BAWAH), RM360(2401-4200K.P), RM500(4201K.P KEATAS)
6) KUANTAN---------------RM240(1600 K.P KEBAWAH), RM400(1601 K.P KEATAS)
7) ALOR STAR--------------RM180/OPERATION
KADAR LESEN PREMIS UNTUK BISNES LAIN YANG SEDIA ADA DAPATI DI ALOR STAR:-
1) PET SHOP---------------------------------RM240/OPERATION
2) KEDAI KOPI-------------------------------RM120/OPERATION UTK 120 M KE BAWAH
3) KEDAI KOPI-------------------------------RM240/OPERATION UTK 121 M KE ATAS
4) RUMAH TUMPANGAN (BUDGET HOTEL)---RM240/OPERATION UTK 16,800 K.P KELUASAN.
5) KEDAI EMAS------------------------------RM150/-
6) KEDAI PERNIAGAAN BIASA-----------RM120/-
7) PEJABAT PEJABAT-----------------------RM120/-
8) KEDAI PERBAIKI KERETA---------------RM120/-
9) KEDAI RUNCIT----------------------------RM120/-
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How come White Gold Lesen sangat mahal? Any idea chicken farming lesen berapa?
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post Aug 19 2010, 08:35 AM

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You are most welcome to join us.
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post Aug 24 2010, 09:32 PM

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WW,

Maybe AFs got piles too to make red shit. Any Vet here?


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post Aug 31 2010, 10:59 AM

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Please do not add Fendona to the Humidifier System to kill insects because

1. The EBNs will be contaminated with pesticide and that will be bad for human consumption. China may even ban EBN from Malaysia

2. The pesticide will linger in the air for sometime and you will be breathing in all the contaminated air. Maybe can speed up journey to meet your maker

3. Always FOLLOW instructions on how to use pesticides as per manufacturer's advice.
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post Oct 3 2010, 04:56 PM

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Agree that we have many in-house experts.

Thanks an lot WW, Tuckfook, Cergau etc.

Can we use live 240VAC with let' say 500mA MCB if available?



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post Oct 5 2010, 07:30 AM

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I have seen 4 eggs all hatched to be full grown adults. Incredible but true. It is not common though.
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post Oct 5 2010, 04:21 PM

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Nest stolen?
Eggs ejected because of fright?

Wonder what'sext from WW? Million $ Qs.
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post Oct 11 2010, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Oct 10 2010, 06:43 PM)
"PM received ...worse still...i also heard that he not only cheat money, he also cheat girls...can say tipu money tipu color... "

After so many times, the subjects mentioned in V1 and V2, there are still newbiz got cheated  by Con and worst the old C..... Be careful, friends in the forum cos what you heard in the forum are mostly the truth. There are still shark, smarter and more clever now than before and you maybe the next victim.

Those kena tipu, please do let us know as the newbiz around need to be more careful if any new smarter jaws around.

Also, only cash when selling EBN...........and know your buyers well or otherwise, don't leave your nests for a minute with the buyers or else, nests and buyer gone missing.


Added on October 10, 2010, 6:51 pm

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WW,

I heard there are Consultants who do not have even one successful birdhouse. Is Dato Beh a consultant?
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post Oct 11 2010, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Cergau @ Oct 11 2010, 11:06 AM)
It doesn't say that droppings INSIDE a BH is THE problem.
It mentioned droppings and showed that scene of droppings from inside a BH.
Shallow & careless or reporting with not-so-nice intent.
It conveys to viewers that you will find such conditions if there are BHs around!
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I saw it too. A lot of misinformation to shed negative light on this af sanctuary business.

Maybe the reporters did a good job but the editing might not be under their control.

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post Oct 18 2010, 11:22 AM

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Visit before issuing license?

I wonder whether the company that advertise their hand-fed swiftlets expertise got license or not?
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post Oct 31 2010, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(penanghomes @ Oct 31 2010, 01:05 AM)
hi....i am new here and interested in this swiflet business.

I am a bumiputera/malay,is there are govt fund to help us malays to get involve in this business.

How much can 1 earn per month from this business?

Who actually buys the nest???
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I suggest you read from Thread 1 V1. I did so can you. Discard your "subsidi" mentality and put in the required effort, struggle to gain knowledge and then success can be yours.

Best of luck.


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post Nov 2 2010, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(Tweeter @ Nov 1 2010, 12:42 PM)
I will not use piezo tweeter, we have done experiments and found that birds are more responsive to a right frequency magnetic tweeter, not necessarily an expensive one. The advantage of this system is best described in the followings:

http://www.horrorseek.com/home/halloween/w...ltSpeakers.html
http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/amps/138905-...ant_voltage.pdf
http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getf...d=215&doctype=3

The experimental birdhouse (that use the right frequency magnetic tweeters) has now more than 500 birds, 60 nests and increasing at a rate of 30 nests /months after only less than 5 months of operation. We will always search for a better way to improve our bird house, not easily satisfy with what we already have.
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Tweeter,

Would really appreciate if you could kindly explain or let us know what is the right frequency for the swiftlets? How should I use the equalizer? Does your tweeters need equalizers?

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post Nov 2 2010, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Tweeter @ Nov 2 2010, 11:19 AM)
Coolandy,

Can see my detailed explaination in my blog: http://mynewventureswiftlethome.blogspot.c...ht-speaker.html.

We do not use equalizer. You cannot use equalizer to correct the frequency range of the wrong speakers. You need to buy the right speakers that covered the frequency range from 1000 to 7000 hz. If your speakers cover 1000 - 15000 hz, may be you can fine tune your speaker with equalizer.

Even the speakers specified the right frequency, you still need to check them, as these are low cost speakers, I don't think the manufacturer has a very good QC system on them, it can vary batch by batch.
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Tweeter,

Appreciate your explanation. Low cost speakers + high quality is very difficult to obtain. But using coil tweeters put too much load on the amplifiers. Just my 2 sen.




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post Nov 3 2010, 12:57 AM

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From James Blog.

http://swiftletfarmer.blogspot.com/

Is Smell Important? Obviously Yes!

This Article may open up those Jokers’ Brain dead minds (so called SIFUS) who tried to spoil the Love Potion image in the market. This was done particularly to hijack out of jealousy and envy.

If my memory served me well, it was about 2 or 3 years back When Love Potion formulation was discovered by me. Some of them asked me for the formula of Love Potion but I refused to give it them. Here sparked the anger.

One particular Joker from K.T now supplying some self made hygrostat,( perhaps already out of business now) condemned Love Potion argued that smell doesn’t play important role in birds’ behavior. Many newbie called him SIfu I guess that was self claimed. He owned a failed farm but trying to teach others how to build successful farm and advise others what to use and what not to be used in farm.

Imagine if you are unlucky to have associated with such person then that is the end of your farm. There is so much yet to be known by many but we have been practicing it. Since Swiftlets like and enjoying playing in rain I bet they produce lots of oil in their feathers for water proofing compared with other birds and this oil significantly plays a part in social behavior.

Therefore when Love potion is applied in farm Swiftlets would swap in to the source of aroma. The below article may open up your mind regarding scent in birds.

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Please judge for yourself this so-called sifu James comments in his blog about someone he doesn't even know about. Why he has to stoop so low, only he knows? It was a healthy debate in Dr Chris's forum.

James, cheer up and keep selling Love Portion and make your $$. No need to harbour so much anger and stop making false accusations. Why hit someone below the belt after so many years?

Dr Chris knows if that person you refer to has a very successful BH that would be the envy of many! The hygrostat is also selling well. Also he never claim to be sifu and nobody calls him sifu.

I really do not understand why you have to write such a post in your blog. Had a drink too many? Anyway have a good day.

Does your blog allow people to post comments like Harry's blog?

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post Dec 19 2010, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Dec 18 2010, 10:27 AM)
[today only u know u sound too much ah...me years back aready see see ******* know who i,m la
malaysia nest industrail many things many people donno yet even u also same i dare to say,,,perli ..

consultant ah??if he is good ah he him self should be harvesting 50kg abouve n every month dancing in chang ping aready...still have to stay at hot sun n nail yr bird house mea????]

Got the above personal PM. So, may I just add what I believe..

Just like fortune teller and if he is really good, he should be super rich and need not give consultation. What the writer mean is that if the Consultant is really good, he is already a very wealthy man, with billions and why need to stand under the hot sun to help you make your million dollars dream comes true. Like D.B and J.C, they should make very good consultants but they aren’t and why???? Because they are super rich BHs owners to even consider teaching you or should I say “wasting time on you” to earn peanuts. I also will not do consultation work but just loiter around here to try to help if I can for the birds, I would say.

So, to the above gentleman, I will say, the consultant may not have the money or the consultant know the trade only or worst, if  the consultant is really good but luckless like a professional gamble who know every tricks in the buz and know his chance well and still lose because even if hundreds to one chance that he lose, he still lose.

Good Consultants/contractors are a contributing factor for the newbuz who know nothing or every little of the trade. So, Newbiz pay to learn and hopefully, he has been guided well to success. Also, for the failed ones, a good consultant who know his job can help alot as in most cases @ good location, it's the every small thng that we missed out. 

What I like the most is a good contractor who know his BH well to build you one that is what I call, “Swiftlets Friendly”, a true sanctuary for swiftlets……that way, your chance of getting swiftlets better, faster and more. Thing like location, surrounding, nature forces to the type of material used are really very importance to building a successful BH.

Lastly, since the writer is reading our postings and he know “ Exporting EBN”  very well and he maybe able to help those who want to sell EBN oversea by posting what he experianced or maybe if he is going to take you all for a study trip to learn “How To Exporting EBN” and if he is conducting it, I shall recommend  to join his study group as you all will surely learn the right ways as well as the wrong ways of exporting EBN.

So, first to Indo, HK and Can to learn, then to CP to dance and relax and that’s life according to the writer above ???????


Added on December 19, 2010, 5:38 pmBH'e entrance is very important to the success of a BH as recently, a friend of mine has decided to do what I recommended to him a year ago after my visit to his BH. Then, his BH has 2 hundreds nests after 2 years.
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Good consultants do not have to boast. The result speaks for itself.



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post Dec 21 2010, 08:46 PM

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Aroma Challenge.

I am thinking of conducting an experiment on the effectiveness of aromas in the market and I am willing to award RM5000.00 to the successful one.

I propose to apply the aromas to 6 nesting planks in a row. Each NP has to be at least 10ft in length.

NP1. Apply aroma on the right half.
NP2. Apply aroma on the left half
NP3. apply aroma on the right half
NP4. Apply aroma on the left half and so on.

After 3 months, the birds should gather right-left-right-left etc as per pattern of aroma application.

I will be conducting the experiment and need witness too. Any takers?

Input from you all are welcome. Spread the news. Hope this will put an end to the argument about the effectiveness of man-made aromas.

Is RM5000 enough? I am willing to place the amount up front for safekeeping to a trusted source. See seng? WW? Ben chai?
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QUOTE(benchai @ Dec 22 2010, 08:47 PM)
Coolandy clearly miss the point. It's not about proofing who have a superior aroma. There ars many brands in the market. I have been using Eka Walet Aroms and is quiet happy with them.  I went to take a course on making aroma and it works well for me. Even PPl in  Terock is jumping into the band wagon and should be marketing them shortly and backed up by tons of testimonie$$$$$$$$$ ha ! I am very sure that they are very Good!!

I did complained about the bad result using LP and only warn members when the manufacturer put disclaimers  and I am still waiting for a refund. Pls. Go to Yen Yen site and see the independent assessment on aromas.

It's about  attic !!!!
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Dear Ben Chai and ALL

My posting is not to challenge you at all. It just came to my mind one fine day to put an end to the aroma debate from doubters and promoters. Bird like my aroma, super effective, do not work, aerosol danger macam-macam, sudah sakit kepala. Testimonies are just testimonies and do no carry much weight. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. I am not interested in hearsay. Science is the way to move forward. A properly conducted test can rule out coincidence.

I am putting the challenge up so that those with the right aroma can participate. Only by doing the experiment scientifically can the effectiveness of aroma in making birds make love etc can be determined. I am not saying whose aroma is good or bad. I just want solid proof that it works and I am willing to pay for it (actually my swiftlets are paying for it thumbup.gif :-) ). The rsults will be posted in this forum to be shared.

Pass the challenge around. Any takers? This is time to walk the talk.

Anyone else wants to chip in? Top up the fund and see if the aroma promoters are up to it.

Btw, Ben Chai, you could try the rig-left-right-left method and if the birds gathered in the similar pattern, this would prove once and for all that the birds like the aroma. So simple.

I hope Harry, James and others can participate.

If you all think 5k is not enough, then suggest a figure. I will try to raise the fund size if needed. Also, can choose any BH for the test. A neutral one is best.

So aroma defenders or opponents, why not join in the fun? Nothing to lose. It is my money from swiftlets.

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