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 V3. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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Cergau
post Jun 1 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 1 2010, 01:17 PM)
IF THE MAN-IN-THE-STREET had care about these, we would have a new FED GOMEN LIAO.
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Agreed. But can't give up.
Can we?
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post Jun 1 2010, 04:37 PM

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I just received some news from indonesian chinese counterparts that they are very aware of the current situation in Malaysia . Many of them are tycoons and investors who are trying to look for new bird house in malaysia . Due to the current flip flop policies, they are not very keen to invest here especially the bureaucratic, 1GP and the wilflife issues. Of course they would have someting to share with us too in developing the economy and they don't see us as their competitors as many malaysian also invested in medan and other parts of indonesia. The cultural of these two nation have so much similarity and language that both can learn from each other .

The govt dept are too slow and too much secrets laying everywhere without a concrete decision. Than there are too many NGOs lack in action but making noise publicly without using proper channel . sometimes i feel the anti-swiftlet hit the wrong punching bag when the authority lack in enforcement and suppose to summon the loud speaker bird house but the authority themselves have holes thus blaming every bird house owners the same .

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post Jun 1 2010, 06:36 PM

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fyi,
Datuk Chor Chee Heung was appointed the new Housing and Local Government Minister while Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha replaced Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat as Transport Minister in a minor Cabinet reshuffle today.
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post Jun 1 2010, 07:09 PM

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CSL's son Chua Tee Yong, has been appointed Deputy Agriculture and Agro-based Industries Minister. May be he can help too.
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post Jun 1 2010, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Bobby C @ Jun 1 2010, 07:09 PM)
CSL's son Chua Tee Yong, has been appointed Deputy Agriculture and Agro-based Industries Minister. May be he can help too.
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If not mistaken DVS falls under Natural Resources and Environment
Cergau
post Jun 1 2010, 11:04 PM

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Anyone seen this before?
This international anti-swiftlet site (now closed) had better support biggrin.gif
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/total-ban...tural-swiftlet-

A bad case of...Not_My_Businessitis?
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Lies, lies, lies (always in 3s) biggrin.gif
With the picture of that pile of dead chicks implying that swiftlet farming does that to chicks on a routine basis
I hope this particular writer's children know what their parent/s are doing to swiftlets, advocating shutdown of these BHs.
It will be on their karma.

It's being RSS fed to overseas sites too.
Read below
http://www.cityfarmer.info/2010/04/13/the-...s-in-the-state/

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Cergau
post Jun 2 2010, 10:04 AM

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I have receive request to update the Petition to reflect the Minister's name due to the Cabinet reshuffle.
Please note the host software does not allow that.
It makes sense....else after getting 28million signatures, I amend it to petition me be the Minister of Vices?

Those of you helping to post the Petition else where, please include an explanatory note.


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post Jun 2 2010, 05:56 PM

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We need more people to support and sign this petition.


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post Jun 2 2010, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Jun 2 2010, 05:56 PM)
We need more people to support and sign this petition.

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?YgWalet&1

thanks
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Hackwire's link is for viewing the signatures, not for signing


The link for signing is here

Kindly Read and Sign our Petition here
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/YgWalet/petition.html
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post Jun 2 2010, 08:03 PM

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thank u, cergau. if i was john wayne... haha.
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post Jun 4 2010, 11:54 AM

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is that normal for new birdies to die? Some new birds are dying without reason. Like 1 weeks 2 new birds died.
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post Jun 4 2010, 12:17 PM

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Do we need to purify or put any disinfectant into the water of the humidifier?

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post Jun 4 2010, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Cergau @ Jun 1 2010, 10:23 AM)
Fellow forumers,
We have tried reaching out to the authorities and the alleged 'industry representative'
1)Fed Assoc (both the Chairman and the secretary were addressed in email correspondences) - as shared earlier the secretary asked for an intro and was left at that.
They simply have chosen to ignore us despite my proposed (already past) deadline.
2)DVS - they have responded with a holding reply stating that the good Dr will respond and has not, thus our questions remain unanswered todate.
3)Our proposed press response to the Local Govt Minister's press statment in The Star remain unpublished and correspondence with NST is too totally ignored.
4)Only the legal depts of the government branches are responsive and deserves a pat.

As Parliament is to reconvene in early June, it leaves us little room and time for much else but a Petition.
After you have signed the Petition, please copy and paste from hereon to email away to friends and families and their families and friends.
The email below will be sent to 200 MPs some days after posting here.


Kindly Read and Sign our Petition here
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/YgWalet/petition.html

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For the benefit of casual browsers not logged in, thus unable to view my signature with the Petition link.
Here's a repost for the weekend.

Parliament starts Monday 07/June, so there is little time left.

Send it off to frens and ask to forward to 10 of their frens and so on...
Ask if they are going to continue being ring side spectators all their your lives?
If EBN is not their thing, ask to sign the petition for the principle of it....

NO frivolous regulation should be allowed to be enacted for the unnecessary purpose of threatening the compliant majority whilst not pulling up the delinquent few within the current by-laws. Unnecessary non transparent licensing breeds unhealthy practices.

It unnecessarily make criminals out of ordinary folks like us...for a simple thing like forgetting to renew your harvesting license
1)First the licensing is Unnecessary and serves no obvious purpose
2)Becos of the above it unnecessarily makes a criminal out of us with it's penalties unmatched with the infringement.
We risk being put into the nearest police lock-up and treated like criminals (it's in the WildLife Bill, Clause 93, para 2)
Enforcement officers shall have the powers of a Police officer (Clause 92, para 2)
There's plenty more of such ....licensing has a quota and is lumped together with hunting with guns....


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post Jun 4 2010, 12:55 PM

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Hi cergau,
The conclusion is sign the petition if we want to let this industry running? Like that isnt we can put random full name n email to sign?
Cergau
post Jun 4 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jun 4 2010, 12:55 PM)
Hi cergau,
The conclusion is sign the petition if we want to let this industry running? Like that isnt we can put random full name n email to sign?
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If you have privacy concerns, the email address is blocked by default to prevent illegal harvesting of emails for spam marketing.
Only valid emails are accepted by the petition host.
Signing multiple times with diff names with the same email address is rejected automatically by the host site.

This is an attempt to appeal to the authorities to do the right thing for the industry and to Members of Parliament to intervene in Parliament when the Wild Life Bill is debated during the 2nd reading anytime starting Monday 7/Jun.
It does not however guarantee a reversal.
It is your democratic right to exercise for a legitimate cause.
Have your say or keep quiet when an injustice is being legitimised.

Are you operating a BH or are you planning to deal with regulations for the duration of your operation?
Once it's enacted they will be hell to pay to have it either amended or repealed.
Prevention better than cure???
No one can ever accuse us of not trying unlike some.

Some say....
The only thing sadder than being blind,
Is to have sight....
But no VISION


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post Jun 4 2010, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE
Some say....
The only thing sadder than being blind,
Is to have sight....
But no VISION

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We were once a smart citizen before but that alone is not enough , today we are still the same smart citizen as before so nothing change because we are not stupid . that's the problem.

so can you imagine if we are all the smart one and the size of our brain will be so big if combine that we can drive our nation to develop a better bird nest economy and make more bird nest availabilty and affordabiity in the market so that more people will get to taste bird soup in their dining and even more as health supplement and new medicine.

Once demand of bird soup and drink had increase , who will benefit ?

All of us....

Soon enough the people will find a platform that will represent people of people in the bird nest industry. no colour , no bureaucratics control, no underground activities , no more becoming a fugitive , free trade etc..

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post Jun 4 2010, 05:15 PM

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Just checked the Parliament site, Wild Life Bill is scheduled for debate (none if you dont NOW write your MP) & be approved.

:Second & Third Reading
D.R.15/2010 Road Transport (Amendment) Bill 2010
D.R.16/2010 Wildlive Conservation Bill 2010
D.R.18/2010 Hire-Purchase (Amendment) Bill 2010
D.R.19/2010 Consumer Protection (Amendment) Bill 2010
D.R.37/2009 Goods and Services Tax Bill 2009
D.R.13/2010 Direct Sales (Amendment) Bill 2010
D.R.14/2010 Stamp (Amendment) Bill 2010

:: Approved
D.R.35/2009 Personal Data Protection Bill 2009
D.R.06/2010 Competition Commission Bill 2010
D.R.02/2010 The Supplementary Supply (2009) 2010
D.R.04/2010 Strategic Trade Bill 2010
D.R.05/2010 Whistleblower Protection Bill 2010
D.R.07/2010 Competition Bill 2010
D.R.17/2010 Criminal Procedure Code (Amendment) Bill 2010
D.R.03/2010 The Supplementary Supply (2010) Bill 2010
D.R.36/2009 Credit Reporting Agencies Bill 2009
D.R.01/2010 Educational Institutions (Discipline) (Amendment) Bill 2010
D.R.08/2010 Suruhanjaya Pengangkutan Awam Darat 2010
D.R.12/2010 Land Public Transport Bill 2010
D.R.11/2010 Commercial Vehicles Licensing Board (Amendment) Bill 2010
D.R.10/2010 Tourism Vehicles Licensing (Amendment) Bill 2010
D.R.09/2010 Railways (Amendment) Bill 2010

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post Jun 5 2010, 10:18 AM

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Tht is the reason why many good mens stop fighting for ordinary farmers.

I once saw an eagle hovering around our farms trying to attack young birds, and then suddenly the eagle was chased by hundred of swiftlets and runaway empty handed.

Swiftlets with tiny body and tiny brain but still they knew when to unite and fight the enemy and chase them away eventhough they knew that they are no match with the enemy as the enemy is physically stronger and is more powerful than them. But, they Unite and Fight with no fear and Won.

We, swiftlet farmers, physically stronger and with bigger brains still lose to the tiny brain swiftlets.

SHAME ON U !!!

AND YOU ALL DESERVES IT !!!

COME RAP US, WE DON'T RESIST

COME SUCK US, WE DON'T MIND

COME KILL US, WE ARE WEAK

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QUOTE(ChanK @ Jun 5 2010, 10:18 AM)
Tht is the reason why many good mens stop fighting for ordinary farmers.

I once saw an eagle hovering around our farms trying to attack young birds, and then suddenly the eagle was chased by hundred of swiftlets and runaway empty handed.

Swiftlets with tiny body and tiny brain but still they knew when to unite and fight the enemy and chase them away eventhough they knew that they are no match with the enemy as the enemy is physically stronger and is more powerful than them. But, they Unite and Fight with no fear and Won.

We, swiftlet farmers, physically stronger and with bigger brains still lose to the tiny brain swiftlets.

SHAME ON U !!!

AND YOU ALL DESERVES IT !!!

COME RAP US, WE DON'T RESIST

COME SUCK US, WE DON'T MIND

COME KILL US, WE ARE WEAK
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CK, thats a good one. I have indeed seen with my own eyes a group of pigeons attacked an eagle and also like you said, swiftlets grouping together to chase away other birds of prey.

I also like to say I appreciate very much the numerous inputs by so many here to prop up this industry.

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post Jun 6 2010, 08:23 PM

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Just watch NTV7 and the traders gives strong ultimatum to the YB or menteris for imposing licensing to them for selling oil, sugar and salt.
this is wat im talking about. the bravery of standing strong and firm . they even cancel their meeting with the menteri for going forward with such licence.

How about the swiftlet industry ? are they still going to wait and see till this happen..


Added on June 6, 2010, 8:25 pmWe have 118 signatures in the petition. Keep it up. Swiftlet in urban or agriculture sector is going to be here .no doubt.


Added on June 7, 2010, 7:41 pmI wonder if this forum have been visited before any forumers to talk and discuss with the forumers there on the swiftlet species?

http://www.pet-cockatiel.com/Dboard/index....f8545153147397e

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